Hi!
I am new to the nexus 5 community and I just got my nexus 5 about 2 days ago
After fully charging it I started using it , I have heard that nexus 5 has battery issues and that's why I only want you people to help me tell how the battery life of my phone is for a brand new device by seeing the screenshots of my usage.
Here are the screenshots:
Looks normal to me. What's ingress? A game?
K****ij Agrawal said:
Hi!
I am new to the nexus 5 community and I just got my nexus 5 about 2 days ago
After fully charging it I started using it , I have heard that nexus 5 has battery issues and that's why I only want you people to help me tell how the battery life of my phone is for a brand new device by seeing the screenshots of my usage.
Here are the screenshots:
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Not bad. I would disable Wi-Fi always scanning available (even if Wi-Fi is off), location to start. That's not bad though and is about what I get, but you might be able to get better SOT.
the nexus 5 does not have battery issues, at all. it stupid people that themselves have issues, not the phone.
Seems normal to me ,I bought mine month ago
There are no issues with battery on nexus 5. I charge mine usually once in 3 days, my record without charge is about a week.
It really depends on how you use it. Under constant 100% load I think battery can be depleted under 5 hours, as in every other device.
i can use my phone very heavily, and deplete my battery in 6-8 hours. but ill still get 5+ hours screen on time.
simms22 said:
the nexus 5 does not have battery issues, at all. it stupid people that themselves have issues, not the phone.
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wow Simms, you're everywhere lol
xnormskix said:
wow Simms, you're everywhere lol
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not quite, but in the n5 and n4 forums I am :angel:
Have you tried running the phone down till it switches off? I know it's not good practice to do that often but I like to do it with a new phone relatively early as it makes sure it's calibrated - sometimes phones can either switch off at 5% or, conversely, run on 1% for hours...
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Have you tried running the phone down till it switches off? I know it's not good practice to do that often but I like to do it with a new phone relatively early as it makes sure it's calibrated - sometimes phones can either switch off at 5% or, conversely, run on 1% for hours...
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You don't ever need to do that as it calibrates every time you charge the phone. Also he just got the phone and isn't having any battery issues.
bblzd said:
You don't ever need to do that as it calibrates every time you charge the phone. Also he just got the phone and isn't having any battery issues.
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He means to break in a LIon battery the first three times you kill the battery and then don't take it below 20% after that.
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MrObvious said:
He means to break in a LIon battery the first three times you kill the battery and then don't take it below 20% after that.
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That's not helpful and does more harm than good. Li-Po never needs to be user calibrated in any way.
Thanks!
Thanks a lot guys for taking your time and helping me , nexus 5 is truly an amazing phone.
@Ben36 yes , ingress is a game and its a location based so it keeps running in the background and uses location services.
Guys , I have some questions relating to the vibration motor , is it fine if I ask here or am I supposed to make a new thread?
Thaks a lot once again
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the nexus 5 does not have battery issues, at all. it stupid people that themselves have issues, not the phone.
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I was just about to start a thread about something then I read this. So here's the deal. I agree that it's almost always user error and/or over expectation when it comes to battery. Stupid people are here to stay. I'm neither stupid nor expecting too much from my battery.
I've always been intrigued by how some experienced users get great battery and some get not so great. Has to be user error I always thought. I thought this because I was one of the experienced users getting great battery life. I mean GREAT. Way over 7 SOT all the time.
So a few weeks ago my first phone had an audio port issue that I had RMA'd. I received the new phone and set it up. It had crap battery. I'm talking less then 2 hours SOT. Same ROM, same kernel, same apps, same coverage for mobile and data, same usage. I set about looking for wakelocks and they all where the same as the first phone. Nothing was wrong on my end. I spent over a week troubleshooting. CPU frequencies and time in state where normal. Temps where normal. CPU benching was the same. Awake vs screen on was almost identical. The phone is sleeping like a baby when not in use.
So, using Occam"s razor, it would lead me to believe that not all batteries in the N5 are created equal. After getting off the phone with a google support supervisor a few hours ago he agreed. Another RMA process has been set up and I was promised this phone would make it's way back to LG so they can actually analyze the battery.
Like I said, I used to think the same way you do. Now I'm not so sure.
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I was just about to start a thread about something then I read this. So here's the deal. I agree that it's almost always user error and/or over expectation when it comes to battery. Stupid people are here to stay. I'm neither stupid nor expecting too much from my battery.
I've always been intrigued by how some experienced users get great battery and some get not so great. Has to be user error I always thought. I thought this because I was one of the experienced users getting great battery life. I mean GREAT. Way over 7 SOT all the time.
So a few weeks ago my first phone had an audio port issue that I had RMA'd. I received the new phone and set it up. It had crap battery. I'm talking less then 2 hours SOT. Same ROM, same kernel, same apps, same coverage for mobile and data, same usage. I set about looking for wakelocks and they all where the same as the first phone. Nothing was wrong on my end. I spent over a week troubleshooting. CPU frequencies and time in state where normal. Temps where normal. CPU benching was the same. Awake vs screen on was almost identical. The phone is sleeping like a baby when not in use.
So, using Occam"s razor, it would lead me to believe that not all batteries in the N5 are created equal. After getting off the phone with a google support supervisor a few hours ago he agreed. Another RMA process has been set up and I was promised this phone would make it's way back to LG so they can actually analyze the battery.
Like I said, I used to think the same way you do. Now I'm not so sure.
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oh, no, I 100% agree with you. just like our devices, that all aren't equal, that are all assembled in differing places, that all have smaller parts that are made in more different factories.. the batteries themselves will differ as well. it'll even probably fall onto a bell curve, where most are near the center, and less with better or worse. but 100% they vary.
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I was just about to start a thread about something then I read this. So here's the deal. I agree that it's almost always user error and/or over expectation when it comes to battery. Stupid people are here to stay. I'm neither stupid nor expecting too much from my battery.
I've always been intrigued by how some experienced users get great battery and some get not so great. Has to be user error I always thought. I thought this because I was one of the experienced users getting great battery life. I mean GREAT. Way over 7 SOT all the time.
So a few weeks ago my first phone had an audio port issue that I had RMA'd. I received the new phone and set it up. It had crap battery. I'm talking less then 2 hours SOT. Same ROM, same kernel, same apps, same coverage for mobile and data, same usage. I set about looking for wakelocks and they all where the same as the first phone. Nothing was wrong on my end. I spent over a week troubleshooting. CPU frequencies and time in state where normal. Temps where normal. CPU benching was the same. Awake vs screen on was almost identical. The phone is sleeping like a baby when not in use.
So, using Occam"s razor, it would lead me to believe that not all batteries in the N5 are created equal. After getting off the phone with a google support supervisor a few hours ago he agreed. Another RMA process has been set up and I was promised this phone would make it's way back to LG so they can actually analyze the battery.
Like I said, I used to think the same way you do. Now I'm not so sure.
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Well I feel that there are always some exceptions , some phones may have a manufacturing defect and maybe the phone you are talking about did have one , but these manufacturing defects are mostly really rare.
You should be good to go...just keep an eye on it! Happy Flashing
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That's not helpful and does more harm than good. Li-Po never needs to be user calibrated in any way.
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I was just explaining what he said. The rumor is (supposedly backed up) that you kill the battery 3 times in a row but never take it close to dying after that and you get the best battery life possible because the battery works best if you only charge it between 20 and 80%. I think there may be something to it because new phones only last like half a day on the first charge but after a week last a day or longer for me. I won't derail this thread though as that's a debate that always loves to go on and I've never found hard proof either way but people who just write websites who supposedly sound smart and can word it quite eloquently.
That being said, I didn't necessarily agree with it, but I was clarifying what was said.
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I was just explaining what he said. The rumor is (supposedly backed up) that you kill the battery 3 times in a row but never take it close to dying after that and you get the best battery life possible because the battery works best if you only charge it between 20 and 80%. I think there may be something to it because new phones only last like half a day on the first charge but after a week last a day or longer for me. I won't derail this thread though as that's a debate that always loves to go on and I've never found hard proof either way but people who just write websites who supposedly sound smart and can word it quite eloquently.
That being said, I didn't necessarily agree with it, but I was clarifying what was said.
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Thanks for clarifying. Keeping the battery between 20% and 80% is said to help with battery degradation, which after a year or two might affect how much one could get out of a full charge. Most won't find it practical to limit them self to only 60% of their total available battery pool though.
Even hitting 0% isn't as big of a problem as some may think as there is a reserve charge for protection. For instance, mine has full died on me twice due to a power outage (I even attempted a boot up) and I always full charge with no noticeable degradation after 8 months.
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Ok. I was responding to a thread about my phone and no reboot's. I notice that some else posted they charge there phone with it off. When i first got my phone I charged it with it off the very first time. Has anyone else done this and not had problems or done this and it still bad battery life? I have had mine unplugged since about 5:30 am and at 7:08 at 38 percent in the staus menu.
royale192 said:
Ok. I was responding to a thread about my phone and no reboot's. I notice that some else posted they charge there phone with it off. When i first got my phone I charged it with it off the very first time. Has anyone else done this and not had problems or done this and it still bad battery life? I have had mine unplugged since about 5:30 am and at 7:08 at 38 percent in the staus menu.
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My battery life is quite good and did not charge it out the box.
royale192 said:
Ok. I was responding to a thread about my phone and no reboot's. I notice that some else posted they charge there phone with it off. When i first got my phone I charged it with it off the very first time. Has anyone else done this and not had problems or done this and it still bad battery life? I have had mine unplugged since about 5:30 am and at 7:08 at 38 percent in the staus menu.
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ive done the full dead to full charge (plus one hour of charge time)
i get 14 hours of use usually and thats heavy use
people need to realize this is a DUAL core phone its gonna eat battery (especially with stock drivers/software)
dont like it go back to your razor......
( there are MANY MANY MANY HELPFUL TIPS ON HOW TO PROPERLY CONDITION A BATTERY PEOPLE SHOULD USE GOOGLE!!!)
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nate420 said:
ive done the full dead to full charge (plus one hour of charge time)
i get 14 hours of use usually and thats heavy use
people need to realize this is a DUAL core phone its gonna eat battery (especially with stock drivers/software)
dont like it go back to your razor......
( there are MANY MANY MANY HELPFUL TIPS ON HOW TO PROPERLY CONDITION A BATTERY PEOPLE SHOULD USE GOOGLE!!!)
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Hey sorry for the confusion but it was not a helpful tip. I was just stating my specific way i charged my device, but your right it is a dual core phone. I hear the thunderbolt has pretty bad battery life LOL
royale192 said:
Hey sorry for the confusion but it was not a helpful tip. I was just stating my specific way i charged my device, but your right it is a dual core phone. I hear the thunderbolt has pretty bad battery life LOL
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Unfortunately, as far as I know dual core is supposed to mean better battery management.
So there's that.
Profondo_Rosso said:
Unfortunately, as far as I know dual core is supposed to mean better battery management.
So there's that.
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Yup, I know that most would say companies only advertise that as a ploy to sell more devices, but theoretically it really should be true.
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Yup, I know that most would say companies only advertise that as a ploy to sell more devices, but theoretically it really should be true.
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Which leads me to believe, as others have stated, that it is most definitely in the software.
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Which leads me to believe, as others have stated, that it is most definitely in the software.
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I agree, especially after reading Chris Soyars' post about the battery driver. Not only does that mean our reading of the battery is directly affected, but it also leads us to believe that other drivers on the G2X could be poorly coded as well.
The battery life is ridiculous
Honestly I"m coming from a Sony Erisson w810i dumb phone due to lost of my Samsung Eternity 6 months ago. And I have to admit that it was worth waiting for this phone back when they announced at CTIA. I was so close to jumping onto the mt4g, but this unbelievable phone totally held me back. After waiting and suffering for 4 months from my dumb phone I finally got my hand not only on my first android phone, but also a dual core phone. Man this phone is blazing fast without any lag, going from apps to apps. Once I got it out of the box, I noticed the battery life was around 30%. After playing with it for about 30 minutes, it completely die out. I charged it while I was doing the factory reset. After the reset, I turned off my phone and left it charged 8 hrs while it's off with the battery charging screen. Waking up at 9:00am, it was 100% completely fully charged. Left the house to school and at 12:30p.m, it was down to 5%. It's been only 3 hours and 30 minutes! Before the battery started to drain I had wifi, syn emil, bluetooth and even brightness on low. Also, I had GSM/WCDMA on Auto, so that wasn't the cause either. My second attempt charging cycle to full battery, well see how it goes. If the battery doesn't last me over 6 hrs, I'm definitely going to return it for another new one. I'm having a bad impression on my first smartphone and I will do anything I can to get it the way it should be. It just unacceptable and ridiculous. Oh by the way, my phone is not yet rooted or done anything with it beside downloaded few apps and games. ^__^
i had this issue last night when I plugged in my phone it showed charging and 38%. woke up this morning 8 hours later and it still showed charging and 38%, I'm thinking what the f, this never happened with my nexus one. so I plugged the phone into another outlet and used a different charger and left it for an hour and it still showed the same thing. It wasn't until I restarted the phone that it showed 100%, but I find that odd. don't have the slightest clue why this happened.
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baldwinguy77 said:
Yup, I know that most would say companies only advertise that as a ploy to sell more devices, but theoretically it really should be true.
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I took my friend to a T-Mobile corporate store to show him the G2x I bought. I bought mine through TMO Loyalty so I had to wait for it to ship.
Anyhow, there was an LG rep there trying to showcase the G2x and G-Slate and I asked him how the battery life is for the G2x. He told me 6 days on standby and about 5-6 hours of continuous talk time.
I'll check to see if he's still there and take a PTO if I need to, to be there with him and call my office and let them put me on hold and see if the phone has enough juice to make it for 5 continuous hours.
Unfortunately tmo decided to add some apps that run by themselves....after I deleted them I havnt had any apps open without me opening them.....I get about 20 hours wth a lot of use. This is the best battery life I have gotten on any android phone
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I don't see how to get 20 hours out of that battery! Are you on edge? any live wallpapers? Account syncing?
To make a long story short, my mom and I both got G2x phones on launch day. Two weeks to the day after our purchase, her battery died and refused to boot even while plugged into the wall charger (which I now know can be fixed by simply pulling the battery). I was busy at work and couldn't help her, and since it was the last day to return the phone within the 14 day period, I just told her to go ahead and return the phone for a replacement.
Prior to her replacement, we had pretty similar battery lives. I used mine more during the day, but she kept Bluetooth and other services running because she was used to an EDGE-only iPhone 3G where she never had to turn Bluetooth off. Our phones lasted between 10 and 12 hours depending on usage. Not great, but not terrible either.
Since she swapped hers out, her battery life is insane. I've attached a screenshot that shows 70% battery life after almost 24 hours. She had Bluetooth running 24/7 (notice it has the exact same usage percentage as Cell Standby) and WiFi running for a good portion of the time (though WiFi slept while screen was off). She had 4G running the whole time. While I know people might balk at the bad LG battery drivers, after 48 hours, she still had 17% battery life left. I apologize for not taking a screenshot--I didn't think about it until later that day. Though if anyone wants me to, I'll take one the next time her phone gets that far along.
I should mention that this is with no optimization at all. She did fully discharge the battery the first time she used it and charged it completely afterward, but that's it. The phone was unrooted and running stock everything with no special tweaks.
I'm very much considering going back to T-Mobile and seeing if they will swap it out. While mine doesn't seem to have the bleeding or other issues that other people have described, if I can trade mine out for a replacement that will quadruple my battery life, why not?
Wow that's amazing. I personally feel the G2x has excellent battery life. It has been way better than other Android phones I've had in the past (except for the original myTouch, I would get like 3 days out of that thing).
I wonder if the crazy battery life from your mom's phone is from the phone itself or the battery. I doubt T-Mobile will switch out your phone passed the exchange period (I'm a Tmo employee) but if they have any return G2x phones in stock, they should be cool to switch the battery out with you. I'm interested to see if it is indeed the phone or the battery.
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Wow that's amazing. I personally feel the G2x has excellent battery life. It has been way better than other Android phones I've had in the past (except for the original myTouch, I would get like 3 days out of that thing).
I wonder if the crazy battery life from your mom's phone is from the phone itself or the battery. I doubt T-Mobile will switch out your phone passed the exchange period (I'm a Tmo employee) but if they have any return G2x phones in stock, they should be cool to switch the battery out with you. I'm interested to see if it is indeed the phone or the battery.
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That's a good suggestion. I'll experiment by swapping batteries with her to determine if it's her phone or her battery. I am inclined to think it's something different with the phone, but we'll see!
this would REALLY suck if it's true... because I got mine at Radioshack.. and I really loathe going to that store... ugh.
I also have amazing battery life. I can go 12 hours at work and still have 80% left. Got mine from the store on launch day.
((LG Tegra G2x)) @FiberOpticRLD
Could you please post the manufactured date (back of the G2x Box) for the second phone? Saw some posts which said phones on or after 4/29 are really good without any of the previous issues.
Curious to see what the verdicts are. If we can get that kind battery life out of our phones, that'd be incredible!
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Yesterday I pulled my phone off the charger at 8AM. Went all day. I leave Wifi and Bluetooth on. Made about an hour of phone calls. Occasional checking of a website here or there. Did not charge phone at night. when I went to bed around midnight it was at 25% or so. Did not put it on charger. This morning it was at about 20%.
Not to rain on your parade. But from your screenshot, it shows no voice calls at all and little to no display use. 24 hrs on a charge without every really using the phone isn't really an accomplishment. Now if she can get 24 hours on a charge and have actually used the phone at least moderately then that would be different. I'd like to see how long her battery lasts with actual use of the phone. That would be a more true indicator of the battery life.
I was going to state that... based on that... her screen was only on for a total of 30 minutes out of 1440 minutes... not a major accomplishment. These phones are meant to be used not just carried around like a flip phone from 2001.
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kangxi said:
I was going to state that... based on that... her screen was only on for a total of 30 minutes out of 1440 minutes... not a major accomplishment. These phones are meant to be used not just carried around like a flip phone from 2001.
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Exactly! She could have pretty much accomplished the same thing by just leaving the phone turned off or just leaving it at home. Some of us would like to actually use our phones, not just have them around for decoration lol. Now if someone gets 24 hours on a single charge with actual use, then I'd love to see that thread as that would be useful information.
What's the date on your phone.
What's the date on your phone.
Mine is in my signature
First off, yes I realize that complaints about the Skyrocket battery are very common, and coming from a Nexus One I'm no stranger to the nightly charging, but I feel like my phone may have a real issue with proper battery management. For example, I'm looking at my phone now. It's been on for 4hrs 43 mins and is down to 73%. Screen is 61% usage and then the typical other stuff below it. For the record the screen has been on for MAYBE 20 minutes total for answering texts and checking Facebook/twitter updates. I should also note that I am using the Galaxy Nexus extended battery. I feel like every time I turn on the screen I lose 1-3% of battery. For the record, I've tried multiple Roms (Stock, SuperStock, NexusMod, Sky ICS, and running CM9 RC2 currently) and multiple radios (running RUXLF3 currently). I've tried underclocking my CPU with SetCPU and that doesn't seem to help. I just installed JuiceDefender but I don't see that doing much as I can't really turn off data with the screen off because I'm connected to my company's email (refreshes automatically every hour.) The only stuff I get pushed to me is Gmail (and I consider a very busy email day to be 5 emails in a given day). I don't get Twitter or Facebook updates sent to my phone. And yes I have Wifi/BT/GPS off as I don't need them. I'm not in an LTE market and thus am using HSPA+. However, when I WAS in an LTE area (NYC and Atlanta) the battery drain was almost to the point where I almost hoped I DIDN'T get LTE in my market if it meant my battery life would be as atrocious as it was.
Within about a 8 hour period it is not uncommon at all to be around 50%, sometimes dipping as low as 30% depending on how boring my day is thus resulting in more FB/Twitter checks than normal. I know that the Galaxy Extended battery isn't going to give me life on par with a Razr MAXX, but the difference I've noticed between the OEM and Extended seem almost negligible. Is this considered "Typical" performance or am I doing something wrong either software/hardware wise? Could I just have a bad phone and try and get it replaced since it's still under 1 year warranty? I'd prefer to not have to do that unless necessary as it means I need to back everything up and then wipe out my data and go back to Stock and reset the flash counter and then do the ICS update via Kies (because I know AT&T will fire back and say "Try out ICS first and then return if that doesn't work!") and all that fun junk.
Thanks
Sounds about right to me. Just turn off data when you aren't using it is all I can say.
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My thoughts:
1. 50% in 8 hours of moderate use is, imo, not terribly unusual for a Skyrocket without a ton of fine-tuning done to it. The Skyrocket, in general, is not a marathon-runner of a phone. It's better for short sprints, although you can (as I have) make it a marathon runner with extensive tweaking.
2. I haven't tried all the ROMs you've listed, but I can tell you that CM9 on my Captivate and my Skyrocket had severe wakelock issues. My Skyrocket's battery would drain off at twice my usual rate when I tried it, and the ROM prevented my Captivate from sleeping at all (I was lucky to get six hours out of a charge--at best). It's not my favorite ROM for battery life. SkyICS, in my experience, is the absolute best battery life of any ROM.
3. Get rid of JuiceDefender and SetCPU. JuiceDefender works primarily by preventing applications from doing what they want to do. Common sense dictates that when a computer program is unable to do an assigned task because its primary method of doing so is blocked, it will try something else. That "something else" may or may not result in a series of wakelocks. SetCPU is designed for single-core processors. The changes it makes will usually affect only one of the two cores in a Skyrocket's CPU, causing the second core to do weird things. I do, however, recommend using System Tuner. All you need is the free version, because all you need to do is lower your min to 192 and change your governor to ondemand or conservative (I use conservative). You're not forcing new profiles onto the phone's CPU, just giving it a little "attitude adjustment".
4. Get rid of the Facebook app and replace it with Friendcaster. Like, now. The Facebook app uses battery and data even if you tell it not to.
5. Have you downloaded BBS? If so, are you using it to track down your wakelocks? I've got a post inside of the above thread that explains how to do so and, well, explains just about everything else I've already said here or would say if I continued. So, yeah, just read that thread. It's not terribly long, and there's a ton of great info in the OP and throughout.
For reference, I'm a light-to-moderate user of my phone, not as heavy as you by any means. I'm not in an LTE area, which helps. That being said, with the Nexus extended battery, I'm now at 2 days, 5 hours and still at 23% charge. I used the phone very heavily while traveling a couple of days ago, starting at 7:00 AM Eastern at 100% and ending at 11:45 PM Mountain with 11% left, 4h45m of screen-on time.
I just find that odd since I find people giving great stories with the SKY ICS and others in terms of battery life. Ironically, I've found that SKY gave me some of the WORST battery life which really made me feel like a dolt. Here's the latest battery stats attached. Perhaps my view of things is skewed though because my day starts at 6am and I'm at work by 7 (with my phone typically turned on at 6:30) so I still have a good portion of my day left by the time I get home and my phone is typically less than 50% by that time. It's weird to know you have about 7 hours left in your day and your phone is saying like 40% power left.
What's your screen-on time in those screenshots? The frequent wake-ups make me think that you've got some rogue apps syncing when they shouldn't be.
Hello OP, I have exactly the same problems as you except i'm still running stock (rooted with frozen bloat). I tried the Galaxy Nexus Extended Battery and from stock it was more horrible. appox 1 hour less than the stock battery. I did try not using my phone like normal (about 25 mins of screen on time) which was a PITA because mobile internet is my only way to sneak down time while watching my toddler son. The battery lasted 11 hours. With stock battery, I would've lasted around 10 hours. A lot of people say it might be bad battery BUT how can I have such terrible luck to get a bad stock and a bad GNEX ext batt??? lol. So I ordered the qcell 3800mah extended battery and boy I won't be looking back!!!! I am currently still at 25% battery, 17 hours 20 mins with 3 hour 38 mins screen on!! I watched two Naruto episode last night and didn't have to worry about my phone dying while I'm sleeping and end up not getting important calls from husband early in the morning. The hump doesn't look great but it does not bother me when I'm holding the phone and I have small hands. The weight is a little bit on the heavy side but for so much more battery hours, I don't think you'd mind. Now, if you are the type who is always out and can't find sockets all the time, I suggest you try this qcell ext batt. for $20 you can't go wrong. I know you'd hate spending another $20 but trust me the battery works wonders.
On a side note, i also ordered a charger for my standard and GNEX battery from ebay so I can charge them independently if i ever have to go on long long trips and need super juice. That's another $4, takes two weeks to get here from China. There's a hack here in XDA somewhere to make it a really fast charger because it is really a SLOW charger despite what their ad claims.
Good luck!!
PS: I also bought the SetCPU since everybody swears by it. I never saw any difference.
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What's your screen-on time in those screenshots? The frequent wake-ups make me think that you've got some rogue apps syncing when they shouldn't be.
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I just checked and it says 1 hour 4 minutes. There's NO way it's been on that long, or at least not with me looking at it, and I usually turn off my screen when I'm done as opposed to letting it go to time out, which is 60 seconds anyways. I'd say 30 minutes would be it AT MOST.
Is it in your pocket a lot or out of sight
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Hello OP, I have exactly the same problems as you except i'm still running stock (rooted with frozen bloat). I tried the Galaxy Nexus Extended Battery and from stock it was more horrible. appox 1 hour less than the stock battery. I did try not using my phone like normal (about 25 mins of screen on time) which was a PITA because mobile internet is my only way to sneak down time while watching my toddler son. The battery lasted 11 hours. With stock battery, I would've lasted around 10 hours. A lot of people say it might be bad battery BUT how can I have such terrible luck to get a bad stock and a bad GNEX ext batt??? lol. So I ordered the qcell 3800mah extended battery and boy I won't be looking back!!!! I am currently still at 25% battery, 17 hours 20 mins with 3 hour 38 mins screen on!! I watched two Naruto episode last night and didn't have to worry about my phone dying while I'm sleeping and end up not getting important calls from husband early in the morning. The hump doesn't look great but it does not bother me when I'm holding the phone and I have small hands. The weight is a little bit on the heavy side but for so much more battery hours, I don't think you'd mind. Now, if you are the type who is always out and can't find sockets all the time, I suggest you try this qcell ext batt. for $20 you can't go wrong. I know you'd hate spending another $20 but trust me the battery works wonders.
On a side note, i also ordered a charger for my standard and GNEX battery from ebay so I can charge them independently if i ever have to go on long long trips and need super juice. That's another $4, takes two weeks to get here from China. There's a hack here in XDA somewhere to make it a really fast charger because it is really a SLOW charger despite what their ad claims.
Good luck!!
PS: I also bought the SetCPU since everybody swears by it. I never saw any difference.
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My goal is to avoid the super extended battery because then it means I need to buy a whole new case as well. I'm one of those people that "needs" a protective case because the only reason I have the Skyrocket is because last December my 1 year old took my beloved Nexus One and threw it down 16 flights of stairs. The phone then entered a vegetative coma state and never recovered. I can't have that happen again. So basically I'd have to buy the new phone then buy the new case. I'm trying to spend as little extra money as possible.
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My goal is to avoid the super extended battery because then it means I need to buy a whole new case as well. I'm one of those people that "needs" a protective case because the only reason I have the Skyrocket is because last December my 1 year old took my beloved Nexus One and threw it down 16 flights of stairs. The phone then entered a vegetative coma state and never recovered. I can't have that happen again. So basically I'd have to buy the new phone then buy the new case. I'm trying to spend as little extra money as possible.
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well, there are hacks floating around with otter box to fit the hump back. I'm sure you will find other cases from ebay that can be hacked this way too. I don't have this problem since Ii use my phone naked because i only got it for $10.00 and my other line is due for upgrade soon. anyhow, it really depends mostly on what you would rather have, battery life or case. It could be the phone but most likely AT&T will tell you that smartphones consume a lot of energy and if you are not within that 30 day period anymore they'll probably give you a refurbished one and you might end up with a more dud one than the one you already have.
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Is it in your pocket a lot or out of sight
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I try to keep my phone out of my pocket because I don't think cell waves near my "area" is a good combination. When I am at work it's on my desk for about 7 hours, and then at home I usually leave it out (at a high elevation away from my daughter of course.)
Does your screen kick on when you get notifications do you know
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I just checked and it says 1 hour 4 minutes. There's NO way it's been on that long, or at least not with me looking at it, and I usually turn off my screen when I'm done as opposed to letting it go to time out, which is 60 seconds anyways. I'd say 30 minutes would be it AT MOST.
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That's still a little high. I was going to ask if your volume rocker wakes your phone, as that can be a big phantom screen-on culprit, but if your phone's on you desk most of the time...
Download BBS and pin down your wakelocks and alarms (which cause wakelocks) from there. If your phone's not suffering any extreme drain from a rogue app or process, then you might just be at the best you're going to get for your usage.
Have you tried different radios at all? I've heard those can have a minor effect on battery life, depending upon your area.
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Does your screen kick on when you get notifications do you know
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No but the 4 buttons do as it is a CM9 feature. Honestly though they aren't on for very long as I usually am near my phone and notice such things rather quickly.
T.J. Bender said:
That's still a little high. I was going to ask if your volume rocker wakes your phone, as that can be a big phantom screen-on culprit, but if your phone's on you desk most of the time...
Download BBS and pin down your wakelocks and alarms (which cause wakelocks) from there. If your phone's not suffering any extreme drain from a rogue app or process, then you might just be at the best you're going to get for your usage.
Have you tried different radios at all? I've heard those can have a minor effect on battery life, depending upon your area.
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I don't use the volume rocker for waking just FYI.
I got BBS. It looks informative but I'm not really sure what I should be focusing in terms of statistics and what, if anything should jump out as problematic. Any tips?
I have tried at least 4 different radios but I haven't noticed any major difference between them.
I just saw that CM9 has now been officially released in stable form. Maybe that will help. I'll try that ROM now. I hope CM9 is not the issue, as I've always been a "Vanilla Android" kind of guy and I really like how ICS is designed. I never liked how the other ROMS still had touches of Touchwiz in them. I especially don't like how it mimics iOS styles so much. I mean, I'm definitely pro-Samsung in the major lawsuit, but Apple has more than a few valid points in their argument. Having similar icons and a SMS theme that basically mimics iOS isn't going to help Sammy in the big lawsuit.
True, it's a well-known problem. You may find some rom with better battery life (here is the rom I'm using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436854). You can also download some apps that save your battery. Try to turn off GPS, Wi-fi and data when you're not using, and also do not keep the brightness of your screen too high. I hope these would be helpful to you.
Check the link in my sig for details on how to really use BBS to improve your battery life. You're not that far off of a normal battery life for moderate to heavy usage, so just tweak it and go from there.
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Check the link in my sig for details on how to really use BBS to improve your battery life. You're not that far off of a normal battery life for moderate to heavy usage, so just tweak it and go from there.
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The thing is though is that I don't consider myself to be a moderate to heavy user, but more of a light to moderate. As I said, on a typical day I answer maybe 5-15 text messages, check Facebook/Twitter a handful of times, almost never get emails sent as I have no life, do almost no web browsing, and maybe take a phone call or 2. I very rarely play games and even less often stream media. My gmail is push but that's about it. I also use Touchdown for Exchange but that queries only once an hour. Am I still being unrealistic with my expectations on my battery?
Something definitely seems off, and you may well have a bad battery or even a bad phone. Try to go through and clean everything up in terms of wakelocks and any possible rogue apps. If you're still in bad shape after cleaning up your phone, something seems off. Mobile data does chew up more battery than Wifi, but not THAT much, and especially not in an HSPA area.
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Something definitely seems off, and you may well have a bad battery or even a bad phone. Try to go through and clean everything up in terms of wakelocks and any possible rogue apps. If you're still in bad shape after cleaning up your phone, something seems off. Mobile data does chew up more battery than Wifi, but not THAT much, and especially not in an HSPA area.
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I don't think it's a battery issue. I've used the OEM and the Galaxy Nexus extended battery and both are delivering similar performance (although GN is slightly better obviously.) And as I mentioned, when I was in an LTE area my battery was getting beat down like Homer Simpson in a fight with Drederick Tatum.
Would it be advisable to try a FULL wipe of my phone? When I was installing CM9 today I saw the option to format EMMC. Should I try doing that or wiping other stuff or would that just do more bad than good? Should I try wiping that and/or the SD card?
I got my Nexus 5 on Monday and have been pretty happy with it so far. Today was the first day I actually had to be away from WiFi for the day and the battery life has stunned me with how poor it has been. I haven't seen battery drop so fast since I had my Desire HD. I took it off charge about 9am and at just after 8pm as I type this I'm down to 10% with under 2 hours screen on time. 100% to 10% in around 10 hours with less than 2 hours screen use.
Has anyone else had this poor battery life? I'm going to let it run down completely, install GSam and see if it happens again but from what I've read on a few reviews (The Verge was the main one) this seems to be almost normal. I would be unhappy with battery life this bad after two years, not two days.
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I got my Nexus 5 on Monday and have been pretty happy with it so far. Today was the first day I actually had to be away from WiFi for the day and the battery life has stunned me with how poor it has been. I haven't seen battery drop so fast since I had my Desire HD. I took it off charge about 9am and at just after 8pm as I type this I'm down to 10% with under 2 hours screen on time. 100% to 10% in around 10 hours with less than 2 hours screen use.
Has anyone else had this poor battery life? I'm going to let it run down completely, install GSam and see if it happens again but from what I've read on a few reviews (The Verge was the main one) this seems to be almost normal. I would be unhappy with battery life this bad after two years, not two days.
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The good battery apps like BBS are broken on KitKat.
But your battery life is not normal. Mine is quite good, about what I would expect. For reference, my GS3 would use 0.2-0.4% per hour while idling during the night. I can't get real numbers or monitor wakelocks on this phone yet. But so far, seems at least somewhat similar to that.
Use Greenify.
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I got my Nexus 5 on Monday and have been pretty happy with it so far. Today was the first day I actually had to be away from WiFi for the day and the battery life has stunned me with how poor it has been. I haven't seen battery drop so fast since I had my Desire HD. I took it off charge about 9am and at just after 8pm as I type this I'm down to 10% with under 2 hours screen on time. 100% to 10% in around 10 hours with less than 2 hours screen use.
Has anyone else had this poor battery life? I'm going to let it run down completely, install GSam and see if it happens again but from what I've read on a few reviews (The Verge was the main one) this seems to be almost normal. I would be unhappy with battery life this bad after two years, not two days.
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We can't really answer about your phone without knowing your usage habits. I mean, what you posted doesnt seem bad, especially if you're in a crappy signal area or play games.
my battery has been around 20% better than on the N4
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Coming from an iPhone 4, I am shocked by how much faster Android is sipping on the juice.On my iPhone, I would probably be around 70% 7 hours into the day, my N5 is at 50%.
47% after 11 hrs for me
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We can't really answer about your phone without knowing your usage habits. I mean, what you posted doesnt seem bad, especially if you're in a crappy signal area or play games.
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A brief summary of my brief usage. I haven't played any games at all since I got the phone and the only usage has been social network apps and very light browsing of around <20 minutes. Oh and I made a call that lasted around 15 seconds. Everything else is stock setup. I have unlocked the bootloader but I did that prior to setting it up due to it wiping everything in the process.
Basically I've used it as much as I'd use my Nexus 4 and that wouldn't see so much as a 30% drain by now. The only thing that I am looking at as a possible cause is that the phone defaults to wanting 4G only. I'm not on a 4G plan or in a 4G area but even with that Mobile Standby is only showing 4% battery use. Suffice to say I switched that to 3G when I saw it just before posting. As I said, I'm going to drain it completely then charge to full and watch it very closely but I wanted to get thoughts while I waited.
I have contacted Google to see if there are any known issues that have popped up but the response I got just suggests turning off practically everything! Why would I opt for a powerful phone just to turn off sync, location services and anything that makes it a smartphone? The baffling one to me is suggesting I switch to AIRPLANE mode if I'm not near WiFi! I didn't buy a WiFi only tablet, I bought a phone!
"If you know you won’t be near a mobile or Wi-Fi network for a while, switch to Airplane mode"
I have been very pleasantly surprised with the battery life with my Nexus 5, I have noticed however that Google Location service likes to use battery power, more importantly - GPS - way too much..
However, I leave it on and even still it easily lasts me a day of use, with around 30-40% left depending on how much I use it.
What are your highest apps in the battery use screen?
Try turning off Google location services.
I am really pleased with battery life. Around 30-40 % left at end of day.
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Just you.all stock and battery life is way better than galaxy s4.
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I have been very pleasantly surprised with the battery life with my Nexus 5, I have noticed however that Google Location service likes to use battery power, more importantly - GPS - way too much..
However, I leave it on and even still it easily lasts me a day of use, with around 30-40% left depending on how much I use it.
What are your highest apps in the battery use screen?
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I saw similar with the Nexus 4 but refused to switch off location services and it seems ok. I've attached screenshots just taken. It seems I was a little off with my browsing estimate which shows 36 minutes in Chrome but still hardly astronomical.
OK so far the general opinion seems to be that it's just me. That helps me eliminate the phone and / or battery just being awful so thanks guys.
I'm at near 11 hours and am at 69%.. with an hour screen time. Not great but it easily gets me through the day. By the time I plug it in tonight it will probably have 20-30% and 3 maybe 4 hours of OST. That's more than enough for me
I should mention I have location off.. and only turn it on if I'm going to use the GPS
I also have Google Now off I don't need those flash cards to tell me how long it's going to take me to get home.. it's useful sometimes but I rarely look at em.
I'm pleased with my battery so far.. for the super heavy user they definitely wouldn't get a day.. but for me I'll get it easily.
its been pretty terrible for me with identical setups as other devices.
it has me seriously contemplating going back to my htc one. overall i do love the phone tho so hopefully I get a better idea when betterbatterystats is updated.
Few things with battery thats annoying me is google services kill this phone worse than any other ive owned. Even with google now disabled and location disabled. Also my daily drive to work I always use waze w/ screen on. With my other phones (htc one / n4 / iphone 5) i generally lose between 10-15% battery. On this phone im easily losing 25%.
I have access to charging so not a huge deal for now. Its a new os update so maybe it will get ironed out.
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Coming from an iPhone 4, I am shocked by how much faster Android is sipping on the juice.On my iPhone, I would probably be around 70% 7 hours into the day, my N5 is at 50%.
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you are forgetting you are having a full HD and quad core phone now.
Ahh you got that google services bug eh.. that will kill any battery
Despite not wanting to I did a factory reset and installed a handful of apps, nothing that should cause issues anyway. When I got to Twitter though just after installing I noticed two warning notifications crop up that I remember just dismissing without thinking last time.
com.google.android.gsf.login
com.google.android.calendar
Both state they need installation of Google Play Services. I've ignored them for now so it'll be interesting to see if they have anything to do with it. I know the screen is going to be using more battery than I'm used to when it's on and notice that in battery use it's just everything else.
Friday will be the ultimate test of sorts. I've disabled WiFi, I'm charging it up and have disabled a few location things I don't care about. If it goes down hard again then it's going back.
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you are forgetting you are having a full HD and quad core phone now.
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And a MUCH larger battery
My battery life over the last 3 days on the N5 has been equal to and a little bit better than my GS4 I've had since launch. Very pleased
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OK so far the general opinion seems to be that it's just me. That helps me eliminate the phone and / or battery just being awful so thanks guys.
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I don't think what you're getting is that out of the ordinary. Between screen time and cell reception (the largest contributors to battery life) you could easily be seeing 'normal' battery life.
Don't expect more than 3.5 hrs of screen time, especially if you have reception issues when not on WIFI. And I'm talking 'normal' computer/dev/IT guy usage (e.g. using the phone as it's intended aka using google now, using one or two emails with push sync, using music services occasionally and sparingly during a day, NOT running in airplane mode, not disabling a crapload of smartphone features).
Anyone used it and saw any difference in battery for our device? I heard it working for some phones, and it's saving battery.
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Hell na! I used it.... Had to run it for days.... It does nothing you can't do yourself. Takes memory and ram. Manager your own phone.
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Battery isn't even a problem on the OPO. Theres no point, just like what yungtexas suggested.. manage your own.
zephiK said:
Battery isn't even a problem on the OPO. Theres no point, just like what yungtexas suggested.. manage your own.
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It's not a problem, but can you deny that 3 days with 7 hours SOT, would be nice? Its always fun to see how far you can push it.
And also no, i haven't tried that battery app, havent really heard of it.
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Anyone used it and saw any difference in battery for our device? I heard it working for some phones, and it's saving battery.
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I used that app on another device and it seemed to drain battery faster than when not using it. YMMV of course, but I wouldn't bother with it.
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It's not a problem, but can you deny that 3 days with 7 hours SOT, would be nice? Its always fun to see how far you can push it.
And also no, i haven't tried that battery app, havent really heard of it.
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I already get 7 hours SOT on certain days, not always because I am always listening to music. And no, its not really fun. In fact, I feel the need to drain my phone so I can charge it because it never ever needs to be charged.
In my eyes, just use your phone as a phone. Phones are devices that are meant to be charged, its apart of the cycle. If your phone lasts through the day then the battery did its job.
Theres no point in trying to maximize your battery to see what your potential is. Depending what you do on your phone will vary battery life, use the phone as your phone.
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I already get 7 hours SOT on certain days, not always because I am always listening to music. And no, its not really fun. In fact, I feel the need to drain my phone so I can charge it because it never ever needs to be charged.
In my eyes, just use your phone as a phone. Phones are devices that are meant to be charged, its apart of the cycle. If your phone lasts through the day then the battery did its job.
Theres no point in trying to maximize your battery to see what your potential is. Depending what you do on your phone will vary battery life, use the phone as your phone.
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Seriously? So people that are fine tuning kernels and all the other people in the battery threads should just stop? Because it's stupid? Is it also stupid then to uptimize systems and Roms? Optimizing is fun, and if you don't want to be a part of that, then just stay out. Don't tell people not to.
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Seriously? So people that are fine tuning kernels and all the other people in the battery threads should just stop? Because it's stupid? Is it also stupid then to uptimize systems and Roms? Optimizing is fun, and if you don't want to be a part of that, then just stay out. Don't tell people not to.
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I never said that they should stop but one thing people should not worry about is battery life on the oneplus one. I came from a nexus 5 and the difference is night and day, I'm sure other people on other devices will feel the same way.
People always talk about ways to maximize their battery life. That's cool that you want to do that but personally for me there are other things that are far more important since the majority of us can complete one day with heavy usage with at least 40%+ battery life remaining. Oneplus one is the most efficient battery out there on the smartphone market.
All I'm saying is use your phone as a phone, phones are meant to be charged.
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I never said that they should stop but one thing people should not worry about is battery life on the oneplus one. I came from a nexus 5 and the difference is night and day, I'm sure other people on other devices will feel the same way.
People always talk about ways to maximize their battery life. That's cool that you want to do that but personally for me there are other things that are far more important since the majority of us can complete one day with heavy usage with at least 40%+ battery life remaining. Oneplus one is the most efficient battery out there on the smartphone market.
All I'm saying is use your phone as a phone, phones are meant to be charged.
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If "it's cool" then why would you come into a thread probably about battery life, and preach that we should just leave it as it is, because it's good? If I can still use my phone as a phone, and have better battery life, then why wouldn't I? I'm paying for my own electricity here not that, that is the main reason though.
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If "it's cool" then why would you come into a thread probably about battery life, and preach that we should just leave it as it is, because it's good? If I can still use my phone as a phone, and have better battery life, then why wouldn't I? I'm paying for my own electricity here not that, that is the main reason though.
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The thread isn't the point of battery life. It's the point whether or not anyone has had to the experience of using this app. I was just merely stating that it's better to do it manually to disable / enable features.
Battery life isn't a major concern on the oneplus one compared to prior devices that people have owned. We're all able to make it through the day with extra juice to use for the following day if we choose to not charge the device. Problems with massive drains are caused by wakelock or poor reception.
I'm not preaching anything and I'm not going to argue with you. End of story.
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I've used it over a couple of phones and to be honest, it is more intrusive than useful. Not sure if it did safe me anytime power though.
Greenify on the other hand is garbage for me cause it uses up too many cpu cycles trying to hibernate apps and phone doesn't deep sleep as well!
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Snapdragon BatteryGuru actually worked on my old S3 - marginally. I did see some battery life improvement (it would end up at about 20% left at the end of the day rather than 15% or so). Then again, it was around the time when my S3's battery was dying. So I would really only recommend it for older phones nearing the end of their life.
For something as bright, shiny, and clean as an OPO, such an app is definitely unnecessary (until it ages a bit, at least). BatteryGuru is probably of little help, if not some harm, in this case. Besides, other fixes (custom kernels/ROMs, NlpBounce/Unbounce xposed modules and similar, etc.) tend to work much better. A battery management app that doesn't require root can only do so much.
In terms of battery-saving apps, the general trend is that the older phones get the most benefit from them, while the newer ones see marginal improvement.