battery has become utter trash since 8.1 update - Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers

anyone else notice it? first off, I'd be at like 40 minutes screen on time before I'd drop to 99 percent... now, it drops immediately after unplugging, and that 40 min screen on time, I'll be at like 69 percent now. it's absolutely ridiculous. battery drains like crazy now, but nothing is running in the background that shouldn't be. everything is identical to pre 8.1 update. today I was at right under 60 min screen on time, at like 59 percent. I looked at old screenshots pre 8.1, and I'd be at like 2.5 hours screen on time at 59 percent. it's absolutely ridiculous that Google is purposely ruining the phone with each update in terms of battery life. I'm not the only one, either. it's on reddit as well. planned obsolescence? yep, I'm starting to think so.
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Man. Do you live off grid or something and can only charge every 2 days or something. If you want 3+ hours of SOT than you would have to be close to a charger anyways and that's with any phone. All these phones that have come out late 2016 early 2017 have the same battery set up...use your phone and charge it fast and use your phone some more.
My pixel 2 same as my Moto z2 force and my s8

jayochs said:
anyone else notice it? first off, I'd be at like 40 minutes screen on time before I'd drop to 99 percent... now, it drops immediately after unplugging, and that 40 min screen on time, I'll be at like 69 percent now. it's absolutely ridiculous. battery drains like crazy now, but nothing is running in the background that shouldn't be. everything is identical to pre 8.1 update. today I was at right under 60 min screen on time, at like 59 percent. I looked at old screenshots pre 8.1, and I'd be at like 2.5 hours screen on time at 59 percent. it's absolutely ridiculous that Google is purposely ruining the phone with each update in terms of battery life. I'm not the only one, either. it's on reddit as well. planned obsolescence? yep, I'm starting to think so.
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I really doubt it's any different than it was. It's more likely the battery wasn't reporting correctly in 8.0. When I was on 8.0 the battery would sit at 100% for at least an hour, maybe 2, all the while I was using the phone. Yes, since 8.1 it drops much faster when I first start using it after removing it from the charger but at the end of the day I still have pretty much the same battery percentage left as I did when I was on 8.0. It drops faster to begin with but in the end, it's the same as before. Rather than planned obsolescence, it's more likely they simply fixed something that wasn't working properly before. There's no way you can use one of these things for an hour or more and not have the battery drop below 100%. Just my two cents worth.

Can't complain. Forgot twice to plug it in at night, woke up both times with 45% left. At my regular use that is good. My previous S7 would have been down to <20%. BTW, this:
jayochs said:
it's absolutely ridiculous that Google is purposely ruining the phone with each update in terms of battery life.
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is just utter BS, maybe you should reinforce you aluminum hat...

I can't say my battery life has been bad or gotten worse with 8.1. If anything it got better. I didn't plug mine in last night, woke up with 38% left. That was about 20 hours since last charge. I don't think Google is purposely obsoleting their newest phones a couple months after release either.....
Edit: I should mention, I have my AOD always on, I have Now Playing enabled, double-tap-to wake is disabled, and I use one of the prepackaged Pixel 2 live wallpapers (Marvelous Marble). The only ting I really do thinking of the battery is turn the phone face down when I go to bed since that shuts off the display.

so i guess the fact that my screen on time has dropped by over an hour means I'm the one who's crazy, and the phone is perfectly fine.... riiiiiggghht.
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jayochs said:
it's absolutely ridiculous that Google is purposely ruining the phone with each update in terms of battery life. I'm not the only one, either. it's on reddit as well. planned obsolescence? yep, I'm starting to think so.
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jayochs said:
so i guess the fact that my screen on time has dropped by over an hour means I'm the one who's crazy, and the phone is perfectly fine.... riiiiiggghht.
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I'm pretty sure this part of your post is the crazy part. Your battery drain is probably real. Have you confirmed it exists on a clean install without any apps installed or system configurations changed? Only then should you entertain that this is Google's fault. Even then, accusing them of doing it on purpose runs dangerously close to tinfoil hat territory.

I feel my battery life has gone down slightly going from 8.0 to 8.1. Though, I'm running all the bells and whistles this phone has to offer, along with tasker profiles. I also agree with the previous statement. Perhaps the system wasn't accurately measuring the battery life.
I did have horrible battery life for a bit when I was playing with a new kernel and dirty flashing some things to get Viper4Android working.
I have two Pixel 2 phones (non XL), and honestly they are amazing at battery compared to my HTC M8s (again two) . Are they perfect? No. Are they better than any phone I've ever had? Yes.
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As has been said above, the battery no longer sticks at 100% for the first hour or so of screen on time, but that was always obviously nonsense anyway so a fair conclusion is that it's now better calibrated. But I've noticed no difference overall in battery life: yesterday was the first time I tried running for 2 days rather than charging overnight, and when I plugged it at night it had run for 41 hours with 6 and a quarter hours screen on and 7% remaining, so really not a problem there.

If you're having trouble with an update:
- Use BetterBatteryStats to figure out if any apps are acting up (or just top off the battery, use phone normally, and check Google's battery stats for Apps Using Battery, standby drain and screen on time)
- Clean flash the factory image, set up phone as new, go through charge cycle and check stats.
I'm not having any issues with battery on 8.1 (clean installed factory image). Easily get 4 - 6 hours SOT. As a matter of fact, my battery life is shockingly excellent for a smaller device like this.
Google is not making battery worse on purpose with their brand new flagship device.

I don't have any issues with the battery after the 8.1 update. It doesn't stay on 100% for a long time like it used to, but like everyone else is saying, that must have been buggy before. It isn't realistic for the battery to stick on 100% with 40 mins of SOT. Overall I don't see a reduction in battery life and I'm quite happy with the 8.1 update.

I was checking BBS and couldn't tell much. Do you still need to install it as a system app?
Ra6idr0y said:
If you're having trouble with an update:
- Use BetterBatteryStats to figure out if any apps are acting up (or just top off the battery, use phone normally, and check Google's battery stats for Apps Using Battery, standby drain and screen on time)
- Clean flash the factory image, set up phone as new, go through charge cycle and check stats.
I'm not having any issues with battery on 8.1 (clean installed factory image). Easily get 4 - 6 hours SOT. As a matter of fact, my battery life is shockingly excellent for a smaller device like this.
Google is not making battery worse on purpose with their brand new flagship device.
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530farm said:
I was checking BBS and couldn't tell much. Do you still need to install it as a system app?
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Not sure. I haven't used it for quite a while. The built in battery info works well enough for me, I haven't been having issues. It's good for checking wakelocks and some more advanced stuff but I think it needs a few cycles/days before it can analyze properly.

I think it's just the way oreo is. Ever since 8.0 it just drains the battery very aggressively. 8.1 the OS runs smoother, but battery drain is still high. Been the case though since 8.0 for me, nothing new.
I haven't clean flashed in over 6 months though. Just been on 7.1 and been rolling up the OTAs and chugging along. I found using Naptime by Franco helps a bit.

530farm said:
I was checking BBS and couldn't tell much. Do you still need to install it as a system app?
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IMO battery life has never been great on the Pixel 2. It's the same on 8.1 as it was on 8.0 for me.

Right now I'm trending towards 6 hours SOT (3 hrs SOT at 50%), and I have been BT streaming audiobooks most of the day. I also watched Netflix for 30 min on full brighness. That's better than 8.0 for me, I was lucky to get 5 hrs SOT max.
I would say the calibration is more accurate now, it hung on 100% for too long, so it may appear to drain faster but so far in practice I've gained battery.
Battery life isn't as good as my OP5, but that has a big battery compared to the Pixel 2. I think for it's size it's doing a good job.

mikeprius said:
I think it's just the way oreo is. Ever since 8.0 it just drains the battery very aggressively. 8.1 the OS runs smoother, but battery drain is still high. Been the case though since 8.0 for me, nothing new.
I haven't clean flashed in over 6 months though. Just been on 7.1 and been rolling up the OTAs and chugging along. I found using Naptime by Franco helps a bit.
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I guess you are talking about one of your other devices here, rather than the Pixel 2.

I am getting horrible battery life since going to 8.1
I installed the update the night of the 13th. The past 2 days my battery drains to 20% in about 8 hours. At that point whatever is causing it was stopped by the battery saver mode or the reboot I did when I discovered the phone was in battery saver mode.
Light use at work, staring at my phone is not a thing I have time for. No streaming, no surfing. Just checking texts and emails here and there. Prior to the update I'd get home 12 hours after I left the house and be around 75-80%. Not rooted, not unlocked. Bone stock.
Built in battery stats say 'system' is the culprit. Digging deeper I see Google Play Services app used 70% of my battery from about 7am to around 4 or 5pm this evening. I'd post a screen shot but I didn't to think of taking one before I plugged it in. I just installed BBS and will monitor it for a day.

Large Hadron said:
I guess you are talking about one of your other devices here, rather than the Pixel 2.
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I thought this was the 5x forum for some reason. Pixel 2 no issues. It was my 5x

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[Q] Awful battery life - just me?

I got my Nexus 5 on Monday and have been pretty happy with it so far. Today was the first day I actually had to be away from WiFi for the day and the battery life has stunned me with how poor it has been. I haven't seen battery drop so fast since I had my Desire HD. I took it off charge about 9am and at just after 8pm as I type this I'm down to 10% with under 2 hours screen on time. 100% to 10% in around 10 hours with less than 2 hours screen use.
Has anyone else had this poor battery life? I'm going to let it run down completely, install GSam and see if it happens again but from what I've read on a few reviews (The Verge was the main one) this seems to be almost normal. I would be unhappy with battery life this bad after two years, not two days.
Dyonas said:
I got my Nexus 5 on Monday and have been pretty happy with it so far. Today was the first day I actually had to be away from WiFi for the day and the battery life has stunned me with how poor it has been. I haven't seen battery drop so fast since I had my Desire HD. I took it off charge about 9am and at just after 8pm as I type this I'm down to 10% with under 2 hours screen on time. 100% to 10% in around 10 hours with less than 2 hours screen use.
Has anyone else had this poor battery life? I'm going to let it run down completely, install GSam and see if it happens again but from what I've read on a few reviews (The Verge was the main one) this seems to be almost normal. I would be unhappy with battery life this bad after two years, not two days.
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The good battery apps like BBS are broken on KitKat.
But your battery life is not normal. Mine is quite good, about what I would expect. For reference, my GS3 would use 0.2-0.4% per hour while idling during the night. I can't get real numbers or monitor wakelocks on this phone yet. But so far, seems at least somewhat similar to that.
Use Greenify.
Dyonas said:
I got my Nexus 5 on Monday and have been pretty happy with it so far. Today was the first day I actually had to be away from WiFi for the day and the battery life has stunned me with how poor it has been. I haven't seen battery drop so fast since I had my Desire HD. I took it off charge about 9am and at just after 8pm as I type this I'm down to 10% with under 2 hours screen on time. 100% to 10% in around 10 hours with less than 2 hours screen use.
Has anyone else had this poor battery life? I'm going to let it run down completely, install GSam and see if it happens again but from what I've read on a few reviews (The Verge was the main one) this seems to be almost normal. I would be unhappy with battery life this bad after two years, not two days.
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We can't really answer about your phone without knowing your usage habits. I mean, what you posted doesnt seem bad, especially if you're in a crappy signal area or play games.
my battery has been around 20% better than on the N4
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Coming from an iPhone 4, I am shocked by how much faster Android is sipping on the juice.On my iPhone, I would probably be around 70% 7 hours into the day, my N5 is at 50%.
47% after 11 hrs for me
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We can't really answer about your phone without knowing your usage habits. I mean, what you posted doesnt seem bad, especially if you're in a crappy signal area or play games.
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A brief summary of my brief usage. I haven't played any games at all since I got the phone and the only usage has been social network apps and very light browsing of around <20 minutes. Oh and I made a call that lasted around 15 seconds. Everything else is stock setup. I have unlocked the bootloader but I did that prior to setting it up due to it wiping everything in the process.
Basically I've used it as much as I'd use my Nexus 4 and that wouldn't see so much as a 30% drain by now. The only thing that I am looking at as a possible cause is that the phone defaults to wanting 4G only. I'm not on a 4G plan or in a 4G area but even with that Mobile Standby is only showing 4% battery use. Suffice to say I switched that to 3G when I saw it just before posting. As I said, I'm going to drain it completely then charge to full and watch it very closely but I wanted to get thoughts while I waited.
I have contacted Google to see if there are any known issues that have popped up but the response I got just suggests turning off practically everything! Why would I opt for a powerful phone just to turn off sync, location services and anything that makes it a smartphone? The baffling one to me is suggesting I switch to AIRPLANE mode if I'm not near WiFi! I didn't buy a WiFi only tablet, I bought a phone!
"If you know you won’t be near a mobile or Wi-Fi network for a while, switch to Airplane mode"
I have been very pleasantly surprised with the battery life with my Nexus 5, I have noticed however that Google Location service likes to use battery power, more importantly - GPS - way too much..
However, I leave it on and even still it easily lasts me a day of use, with around 30-40% left depending on how much I use it.
What are your highest apps in the battery use screen?
Try turning off Google location services.
I am really pleased with battery life. Around 30-40 % left at end of day.
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Just you.all stock and battery life is way better than galaxy s4.
LaurenceGough said:
I have been very pleasantly surprised with the battery life with my Nexus 5, I have noticed however that Google Location service likes to use battery power, more importantly - GPS - way too much..
However, I leave it on and even still it easily lasts me a day of use, with around 30-40% left depending on how much I use it.
What are your highest apps in the battery use screen?
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I saw similar with the Nexus 4 but refused to switch off location services and it seems ok. I've attached screenshots just taken. It seems I was a little off with my browsing estimate which shows 36 minutes in Chrome but still hardly astronomical.
OK so far the general opinion seems to be that it's just me. That helps me eliminate the phone and / or battery just being awful so thanks guys.
I'm at near 11 hours and am at 69%.. with an hour screen time. Not great but it easily gets me through the day. By the time I plug it in tonight it will probably have 20-30% and 3 maybe 4 hours of OST. That's more than enough for me
I should mention I have location off.. and only turn it on if I'm going to use the GPS
I also have Google Now off I don't need those flash cards to tell me how long it's going to take me to get home.. it's useful sometimes but I rarely look at em.
I'm pleased with my battery so far.. for the super heavy user they definitely wouldn't get a day.. but for me I'll get it easily.
its been pretty terrible for me with identical setups as other devices.
it has me seriously contemplating going back to my htc one. overall i do love the phone tho so hopefully I get a better idea when betterbatterystats is updated.
Few things with battery thats annoying me is google services kill this phone worse than any other ive owned. Even with google now disabled and location disabled. Also my daily drive to work I always use waze w/ screen on. With my other phones (htc one / n4 / iphone 5) i generally lose between 10-15% battery. On this phone im easily losing 25%.
I have access to charging so not a huge deal for now. Its a new os update so maybe it will get ironed out.
garyHal said:
Coming from an iPhone 4, I am shocked by how much faster Android is sipping on the juice.On my iPhone, I would probably be around 70% 7 hours into the day, my N5 is at 50%.
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you are forgetting you are having a full HD and quad core phone now.
Ahh you got that google services bug eh.. that will kill any battery
Despite not wanting to I did a factory reset and installed a handful of apps, nothing that should cause issues anyway. When I got to Twitter though just after installing I noticed two warning notifications crop up that I remember just dismissing without thinking last time.
com.google.android.gsf.login
com.google.android.calendar
Both state they need installation of Google Play Services. I've ignored them for now so it'll be interesting to see if they have anything to do with it. I know the screen is going to be using more battery than I'm used to when it's on and notice that in battery use it's just everything else.
Friday will be the ultimate test of sorts. I've disabled WiFi, I'm charging it up and have disabled a few location things I don't care about. If it goes down hard again then it's going back.
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you are forgetting you are having a full HD and quad core phone now.
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And a MUCH larger battery
My battery life over the last 3 days on the N5 has been equal to and a little bit better than my GS4 I've had since launch. Very pleased
Dyonas said:
OK so far the general opinion seems to be that it's just me. That helps me eliminate the phone and / or battery just being awful so thanks guys.
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I don't think what you're getting is that out of the ordinary. Between screen time and cell reception (the largest contributors to battery life) you could easily be seeing 'normal' battery life.
Don't expect more than 3.5 hrs of screen time, especially if you have reception issues when not on WIFI. And I'm talking 'normal' computer/dev/IT guy usage (e.g. using the phone as it's intended aka using google now, using one or two emails with push sync, using music services occasionally and sparingly during a day, NOT running in airplane mode, not disabling a crapload of smartphone features).

Great battery life with MM update

Hello ..
I am getting amazing battery life since I got 6.0 .. Before with lollipop I used to get around 5 hours on screen time. Amazingly though I hit 6.30 hours on the first day after update, and this with wireless, mobile data and Bluetooth on. And no data saving and screen on 70% which is amazing.
Good job Motorola
Excellent I would say
Excellent batt life with this new update very impressive how a software help the hardware to accomplish that task.
I replaced my STYLE and got a new one two days back. The old one would be dead even though it has 80%+ battery.
The current one is pretty good compared with the old unit. I got 4+ hours of SOT and I was on 4G and WiFi all the time. Was using it heavily for browsing and chat.
mohan_168 said:
I replaced my STYLE and got a new one two days back. The old one would be dead even though it has 80%+ battery.
The current one is pretty good compared with the old unit. I got 4+ hours of SOT and I was on 4G and WiFi all the time. Was using it heavily for browsing and chat.
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This is not bad at all. What I am saying is after MM update battery life increased about 1.5 hours extra SOT
Perhaps the update fixed something else? Looking at the MM update from L, there appears to be nothing besides Doze, which only works when the device is still and not used. I notice perhaps 15% better battery life if using the device sporadically during the day (medium use for me). With heavier use, I notice zero difference so far.
I was hoping some kernel adjustments were made, but the device spikes with heat about the same. I first thought it was less, but notice the same apps get the device very warm to hot (the GPU is over it's head with 1440p). Standby time is a lot better though, but only a significant improvement if lighter use though the day (so Doze can be a factor).
Usage is relative only to the user though
How do you get such great battery performance? I barely manage to get 3 hours SOT.
When the device is idle there's no drain, i only lose 2-3% overnight. But when the device is active the battery drains very quickly.
Tried a lot of battery saving stuff, greenify, powernap, and so on, but no luck.
I'm on MM stock rooted. Having a lot of apps installed. May this be the culprit?
dyonissos said:
How do you get such great battery performance? I barely manage to get 3 hours SOT.
When the device is idle there's no drain, i only lose 2-3% overnight. But when the device is active the battery drains very quickly.
Tried a lot of battery saving stuff, greenify, powernap, and so on, but no luck.
I'm on MM stock rooted. Having a lot of apps installed. May this be the culprit?
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If 20% brightness or less, all you do is web surf and a little Youtube, with good LTE signal or wifi and VERY little use of apps that force the GPU to push 1440p, you can get five hours. Everything is relative to the user. That's it.
Counting stock apps, I have 395 apps and 5GB free (64GB model). based on MM battery report, I have no apps that are background battery demons.
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If 20% brightness or less, all you do is web surf and a little Youtube, with good LTE signal or wifi and VERY little use of apps that force the GPU to push 1440p, you can get five hours. Everything is relative to the user. That's it.
Counting stock apps, I have 395 apps and 5GB free (64GB model). based on MM battery report, I have no apps that are background battery demons.
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Are you talking just 1440p video in general or are you talking 1440p games?
I'm lucky if I get 2 hours of SoT. I can't tell if Android Wear is eating my battery or if it's Sprint, despite having a decent signal. Bluetooth and Cell Standby are chewing up the majority of my battery power. I think the network management is trying to shuffle my phone between their three frequencies and while at work, I can only get on the 1900MHz PCS band due to having to use a repeater.
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Are you talking just 1440p video in general or are you talking 1440p games?
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Some games and apps run at 1440p and choke the GPU. They stand out by running very warm to hot and drain the battery more quickly.
dyonissos said:
How do you get such great battery performance? I barely manage to get 3 hours SOT.
When the device is idle there's no drain, i only lose 2-3% overnight. But when the device is active the battery drains very quickly.
Tried a lot of battery saving stuff, greenify, powernap, and so on, but no luck.
I'm on MM stock rooted. Having a lot of apps installed. May this be the culprit?
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Yes the apps do drain battery.
I uninstalled one particular email app that alone would drain 6% daily!
Anyway this time I got is without gaming. Mostly chatting and browsing and a lot of movies (vlc). I think that day I watched not less than 3-4 hours of continuous movies on the phone.
The only thing I did differently than before is removing unnecessary app permissions and notifications. Other than that I have done nothing. Like I said I do not try to save battery because I always have power source near by, but this 6.30 hours SOT i s awesome I tell you.
Based on my little experience with Android some apps will screw up the phone for no reason. First time I got the phone I got around 3 hours SOT with so many unneeded apps, and I did not know which app is draining my battery so I formatted the phone, and started installing apps one by one and watching the battery. And I managed to hit 4-5 hours with lollipop. Now with the update I got this and I was shocked.
Fully back to stock, unrooted, bootlocker relocked.
Upgraded to MM via OTA.
Installed all my apps via Play Store. Until now, i always restored my apps via TiBu, including data/settings.
I'm curious if my battery life will improve.
Will post the outcome, if any
Cheers!
A lot of the time my phone is just sitting on my desk. It used to say I would get around 1-2 days battery life from it sitting there doing nothing. After MM it says there is 8 days left. I have had it unplugged all day and even with some moderate use I am only at 95%. The doze mode really makes a big impact in stand by times!
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Perhaps the update fixed something else? Looking at the MM update from L, there appears to be nothing besides Doze, which only works when the device is still and not used. I notice perhaps 15% better battery life if using the device sporadically during the day (medium use for me). With heavier use, I notice zero difference so far.
I was hoping some kernel adjustments were made, but the device spikes with heat about the same. I first thought it was less, but notice the same apps get the device very warm to hot (the GPU is over it's head with 1440p). Standby time is a lot better though, but only a significant improvement if lighter use though the day (so Doze can be a factor).
Usage is relative only to the user though
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I think it did do something to the apps. The way you can block apps from getting access to location or other services is pretty impressive. I love that as I hated that apps would have access to everything on my phone and I cannot do anything about it. Now I can and this particular feature made me love Android even more after I switched two months back.
Is there something wrong with me. I only get 2 to 2 1/2 hours battery tops and actually I've tried amplify (paid version), and power nap and they don't seem to help much. I have only got 3 hours once since I got this phone. Is it just AT&T maybe?
I'd like to mention something else. Probably not related at all, but ..
My old MXS was a faulty unit (as I mentioned in my previous post). Once I got a new replacement, I have not yet charged the phone using Turbo Charger. I am charging it with Mi Pad charger (non-turbo). Yes, it took about 2+ hours to go from 30 to 100%.
Old MXS was always charged with turbo charger and I was getting pretty bad SOT and the baterry would drain as fast as it would charge. Does it have to do something with using a normal vs turbo charger?
I stop pretty much all background services and apps not in use. The only active applications are firefox, whatsapp and VLC.
My screen is set to 50% brightness with adaptive brightness ON. Moto X display and attentive display is ON.
Non-root (planning to root soon) and Moto ROM.
mohan_168 said:
I'd like to mention something else. Probably not related at all, but ..
My old MXS was a faulty unit (as I mentioned in my previous post). Once I got a new replacement, I have not yet charged the phone using Turbo Charger. I am charging it with Mi Pad charger (non-turbo). Yes, it took about 2+ hours to go from 30 to 100%.
Old MXS was always charged with turbo charger and I was getting pretty bad SOT and the baterry would drain as fast as it would charge. Does it have to do something with using a normal vs turbo charger?
I stop pretty much all background services and apps not in use. The only active applications are firefox, whatsapp and VLC.
My screen is set to 50% brightness with adaptive brightness ON. Moto X display and attentive display is ON.
Non-root (planning to root soon) and Moto ROM.
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Maybe if it is a faulty device. I use turbo and i t has nothing to do with battery life.
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Maybe if it is a faulty device. I use turbo and i t has nothing to do with battery life.
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Probably yes. But i would charge on non turbo for two weeks so that I get definite data for comparison.
timde9 said:
Is there something wrong with me. I only get 2 to 2 1/2 hours battery tops and actually I've tried amplify (paid version), and power nap and they don't seem to help much. I have only got 3 hours once since I got this phone. Is it just AT&T maybe?
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Less than 3 hours is not good bro, really anything below 4 hours is just bad. You better figure out what is draining your battery, or maybe it Is a bad unit?
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Probably yes. But i would charge on non turbo for two weeks so that I get definite data for comparison.
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what difference does it make if it is charged slowly or not??
It should not matter, if the battery is not keeping the power that means it is defective, nothing to do with slow or fast charging.

8.1 Update definitely has hurt battery performance

A lot of people have brought this up and I too felt like I was experiencing it. I can without a doubt say the battery is draining faster on 8.1. Before everyone starts with "check your apps, bla, bla bla", let me explain.
I recently RMA'd my Pixel 2 for a different problem. Prior to the RMA, I noticed that my battery seemed to take a hit after the update. However, I had already installed various apps and my feelings were purely speculative. As part of the RMA, I had performed a factory reset as instructed and over the course of 4 days my battery performance was still at the worsened 8.1 levels. I should also state that over the 4 days spent waiting for my replacement phone, I installed no apps and only updated the official Google ones that came pre-installed on the phone.
I received my new phone and this one shipped with 8.0. Again, I've installed no additional apps and I have paid attention to the battery over the last two days. As the day goes on, it gets difficult to determine if it is draining any faster. Luckily, my morning routine is damn near robotic. I eat a bowl of cereal and read the same news sites while using my phone. I take a shower and drive in to work. With my original phone on 8.0, I would arrive at work with my battery showing 99-100%. With the 8.1 update, my battery had dropped at this point in the morning all the way down to 94-96% (this drop was consistently reproduced for ~2 weeks). With my RMA replacement I am still on 8.0 and following my usual morning routine my phone is still at 100%.
I know that this test is not the most scientific but I think it is controlled enough to be able to say that something is different between 8.0 and 8.1. I know that others have voiced their concern that the battery performance has suffered. Has anyone rolled back to 8.0 and saw the battery go back to normal? I have a theory about the 8.1 update, but at this point I would rather not share it as it may guide the discussion down the wrong path.
I don't know how much truth there is to this, but some were speculating that 8.0 actually did not report battery percentage correctly, whereas 8.1 fixed this to report correct usage. FWIW, I'm getting to the end of the day pretty consistently with around 50% battery left and 4 hrs SOT, and I think that's a much better measure than how long it takes to drop from 100.
I've heard that too about battery reporting.
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I don't know how much truth there is to this, but some were speculating that 8.0 actually did not report battery percentage correctly, whereas 8.1 fixed this to report correct usage. FWIW, I'm getting to the end of the day pretty consistently with around 50% battery left and 4 hrs SOT, and I think that's a much better measure than how long it takes to drop from 100.
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I don't think it's speculating. There was definitely something wrong with the battery calibration on 8.0. I'd have two hours of screen on time after taking it off the charger and it would still say 100%. At first I thought it was stuck and not working at all but eventually it would start to drop. As we all know, there's no way you can have that much SOT and still be at 100%. There's no doubt the battery level indicator drops faster when you first unplug the phone after updating to 8.1 but the bottom line is (at least for me) I still end up at the end of the day with pretty much the same battery left as I did when I had 8.0. That's all that really matters to me pretty much tells the story.
The prior 8.0 battery I believe had a bug where it did not report correctly. I remember before I'd use my phone for a long period before it even moved off 100%;
I did the 8.1 update and my battery is much better than it was on my previous phone. I may have had a bad device.
I think that is a bad way to judge battery. It is more accurate with 8.1 as with 8.0 i would get like 30 minutes of screen time some times and still be at 100-99%. if you do that math on that this would probably last me the whole week. But I used to get ~ 5hours of screen time and now i will be lucky to get 4 hours. My routine and work schedule is the same since the update. 8.1 I for sure lost about 1 hour of screen time.
I just got my Pixel 2 and have had it for 3 days now. I did my first test today against my original Pixel. My original was charged up to about 95% and my Pixel 2 was also charged up to 95%. I left my original sitting at home while I took my Pixel 2 to work with me. If I had had my original with me, my phone would be charging right now because it would be below 15%. Pixel 2 is sitting pretty at 67% As for the original that has been sitting on my night stand doing nothing, it's at 56%.
So if there's a battery issue with 8.1, either i'm not experiencing it or I should be at a higher percentage, lol. BTW, both phones all have the same apps and same configurations. Running for about 13hrs each. And as others have said, I remember also seeing that 8.0 was giving incorrect battery readings on the Pixel 2, which 8.1 fixed.

New pixel 3, will battery life improve??

I just got a pixel 3 and so far am a bit disappointed in the battery life. I have on adaptive battery and am hoping that it will improve. I've turned off ambient display as I heard there was a battery drain issue. Overnight it drops like 15 percent!! I'm probably getting 3.5 to 4 hours SOT max.
Can anyone report back if they found theirs to improve after a few weeks or if you have any tips. TIA!!
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I just got a pixel 3 and so far am a bit disappointed in the battery life. I have on adaptive battery and am hoping that it will improve. I've turned off ambient display as I heard there was a battery drain issue. Overnight it drops like 15 percent!! I'm probably getting 3.5 to 4 hours SOT max.
Can anyone report back if they found theirs to improve after a few weeks or if you have any tips. TIA!!
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It's not just your phone or usage, battery performance is just trash in this phone. I was wondering about the same thing when I got my Pixel 3 (November 2018), I think the overall performance of this phone is bad, Multitasking, I see foreground apps crashing which is ridiculous for a $1000 flagship phone from a company like Google. I don't even have heavy usage, I don't game, all I do is average 3 - 5 minutes everyday phone call, texting most of the time and Spotify 2 - 4 hours every day.
I have also gone through a whole defective phone exchange process because the phone which I received initially had freezing and lockout issues. I am not saying the replacement device is any good, I have seen this new one lock-out too, like completely go retarded, touch would stop responding, phone wouldn't come out of deep sleep, I could tell phone is ringing but I can't pick-up because it won't come out of sleep mode or the screen won't come on. I never had such horrible issues with my 4-year-old MOTO X PLAY which died because of my stupidity, even though it was old, I had better battery performance.
I think it's not the hardware but the whole Android Pie feels like its still in BETA. The whole point for me buying this phone was a Software optimization which is seriously poor and Camera optimization which is outstanding. If it wasn't for Camera, I would have returned this phone and bought a OnePlus 6T.
Let's just hope Google will fix everything.
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It's not just your phone or usage, battery performance is just trash in this phone. I was wondering about the same thing when I got my Pixel 3 (November 2018), I think the overall performance of this phone is bad, Multitasking, I see foreground apps crashing which is ridiculous for a $1000 flagship phone from a company like Google. I don't even have heavy usage, I don't game, all I do is average 3 - 5 minutes everyday phone call, texting most of the time and Spotify 2 - 4 hours every day.
I have also gone through a whole defective phone exchange process because the phone which I received initially had freezing and lockout issues. I am not saying the replacement device is any good, I have seen this new one lock-out too, like completely go retarded, touch would stop responding, phone wouldn't come out of deep sleep, I could tell phone is ringing but I can't pick-up because it won't come out of sleep mode or the screen won't come on. I never had such horrible issues with my 4-year-old MOTO X PLAY which died because of my stupidity, even though it was old, I had better battery performance.
I think it's not the hardware but the whole Android Pie feels like its still in BETA. The whole point for me buying this phone was a Software optimization which is seriously poor and Camera optimization which is outstanding. If it wasn't for Camera, I would have returned this phone and bought a OnePlus 6T.
Let's just hope Google will fix everything.
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Yeah I actually have a one plus 6t and am giving this a week or so before I decide to keep it. The 6t is absolutely insane when it comes to battery so I think I'm spoiled haha. Easily could get two days out of it
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Yeah I actually have a one plus 6t and am giving this a week or so before I decide to keep it. The 6t is absolutely insane when it comes to battery so I think I'm spoiled haha. Easily could get two days out of it
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Here's my absolutely outstanding battery performance.
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Here's my absolutely outstanding battery performance.
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So 7 hours plus of screen time?? Jeez I'd be happy with that!!
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So 7 hours plus of screen time?? Jeez I'd be happy with that!!
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That makes me wonder why my sleep time is so bad. I don't have any kind of apps causing battery drain. Everything reports fine.
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I just got a pixel 3 and so far am a bit disappointed in the battery life. I have on adaptive battery and am hoping that it will improve. I've turned off ambient display as I heard there was a battery drain issue. Overnight it drops like 15 percent!! I'm probably getting 3.5 to 4 hours SOT max.
Can anyone report back if they found theirs to improve after a few weeks or if you have any tips. TIA!!
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This sounds really bad. I'm sitting here at 3 hours SOT and 52% battery left.
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This sounds really bad. I'm sitting here at 3 hours SOT and 52% battery left.
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I am seeing a bit better battery after a few charges. I've read it gets better so I guess I'll give it a week or so.
As long as I can get 4-5 I'm OK
Why don't you try and switch off the adaptive battery? Some people complain about battery drain with adaptive battery on.
Coming from the Nexus 5 I find the battery life great! I always left adaptive battery on and don't feel any difference after 2 months...
And can't complain about any performance problems...
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Why don't you try and switch off the adaptive battery? Some people complain about battery drain with adaptive battery on.
Coming from the Nexus 5 I find the battery life great! I always left adaptive battery on and don't feel any difference after 2 months...
And can't complain about any performance problems...
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thanks for that tip, I'll try it now and see if it makes a difference!!
Yeah it's not great. I've got 5H SOT here and there but mostly 3.5-4.5. It lasts me the day so I guess it's ok. Performance is really great otherwise.
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Mostly I'm at 3h when I hit 20%.
Overall I've gotten 3-4h SOT over one day (so around 15 hours).
Sleep drain is about 1.25% per hour with AOD off.
I keep location on all the time, BT off, wifi off if I'm on the go.
Other than that everything is at its default setting.
What are you guys doing to get over 4h SOT?
I know it's heavily dependent on your screen brightness, signal strength, how much standby drain and general use/settings.
Maybe you can give some tips.
Android needs time to adapt all for your personal usage. Battery get better and better in couple of days.
I had Galaxy S8 before and Pixel3 batery life is probably 50% better.
But night drain must be around 5%. Bigger drain is probably from weak network. Or bad app.
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Android needs time to adapt all for your personal usage. Battery get better and better in couple of days.
I had Galaxy S8 before and Pixel3 batery life is probably 50% better.
But night drain must be around 5%. Bigger drain is probably from weak network. Or bad app.
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I got my pixel 3 at launch, left adaptive battery on for 3 months, non-root, all stock, no special tweaks or mods etc.
With adaptive battery on, overnight drain with screen facing down is about 10% over 7-8hrs....
After 3 months I gave up on adaptive battery, turned it off, overnight drain is now consistently less than 5%.
Can't say I'm not disappointed...

Question Poor Battery

Got the pro delivered today. Ive noticed battery life is quite poor. Dropping 5-10% every 30 mins or so. Battery usage seems to suggest the google app is using about 25% of the battery. Usage is nothing over the top. Coming from a pixel 5 with excellent battery
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Got the pro delivered today. Ive noticed battery life is quite poor. Dropping 5-10% every 30 mins or so. Battery usage seems to suggest the google app is using about 25% of the battery. Usage is nothing over the top. Coming from a pixel 5 with excellent battery
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Dude it's your first setup and install. Give it a day or two. Normal. I have used the 7 and 7 pro now for 3 weeks which is great.
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Dude it's your first setup and install. Give it a day or two. Normal. I have used the 7 and 7 pro now for 3 weeks which is great.
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Yea. I agree. But drain seems very rapid. Just dropped 3% since i posted the question. Will wait a few days and report back
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Dude it's your first setup and install. Give it a day or two. Normal. I have used the 7 and 7 pro now for 3 weeks which is great.
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Hows the face unlock and fingerprint ? Fast and responsive or laggy ?
Iam waiting for my 7pro and iam affraid about problems from 6 series
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Hows the face unlock and fingerprint ? Fast and responsive or laggy ?
Iam waiting for my 7pro and iam affraid about problems from 6 series
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pixel 6 fp issues are mostly fixed now because of software updates
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Got the pro delivered today. Ive noticed battery life is quite poor. Dropping 5-10% every 30 mins or so. Battery usage seems to suggest the google app is using about 25% of the battery. Usage is nothing over the top. Coming from a pixel 5 with excellent battery
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Just try to charge it fully and use it for a few more days, also for new phones there will always be updates for battery issues!
Been using both 7 series for 3 weeks. Fingerprint is perfect. Hardly use it with face unlock though
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Been using both 7 series for 3 weeks. Fingerprint is perfect. Hardly use it with face unlock though
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OK...let's have it...how in the world have you been using the phone(s) for the last three weeks?
It's a 5nm(or 4nm) Samsung fab made SOC, it's going to have poor efficiency.
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OK...let's have it...how in the world have you been using the phone(s) for the last three weeks?
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Because I work for a network in the UK. Only allowed to talk about them after launch
I'm not sure if others have issues with battery drain and I did see the article on display on the Pixel 7 Pro being a battery killer...but after using the phone for a few days now, I can confirm that the phone, software, all the fancy features are absolutely great but the battery sucks. This phone is a battery killer indeed. I'm monitoring with accubattery and trying greenify but no luck yet. I have even tried keeping the Smooth Display disabled/turned off (to prevent refresh rate being increased to 120 Hz) but the brain drain literally is insane. I am not an expert and I am not sure if more battery charge cycles, optimization through phone use etc will help over time either. I have tried restricting battery use for many apps as well and tried disabling background data for some apps - no luck on this one too. Hopefully the underlying cause can be fixed with some usual Google software patch magic...if not, it's going to a year of battery misery I guess. I'm curious to hear others experience and any suggestions. Thank you.
I am on the same page when it comes to battery... I have the 7 Pro and since 6PM last night it dropped to 38% with only 1h 45 min of SOT... That is never going to get close to even 3h of SOT.
It is on 1440p and 120hz but still, I don't think this is ok.
Mine is so much better than what my P6P was, yesterday i had 54% left after 17 hours off charge and playing with it given its a new toy, My P6P would have been down to 20%'ish.
I've lost 20% today (since 6.20am) but i have had Poweramp playing music for a couple of hours, i have been out and about taking photos and i made a 30 minute call.
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Mine is so much better than what my P6P was, yesterday i had 54% left after 17 hours off charge and playing with it given its a new toy, My P6P would have been down to 20%'ish.
I've lost 20% today (since 6.20am) but i have had Poweramp playing music for a couple of hours, i have been out and about taking photos and i made a 30 minute call.
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Yeah, mine has been really good also. Really good idle drain and overnight it's in deep sleep around 97% of the time. Active drain has been good as well.
Mine seem to be be about on par with my P6P. Not great, but not horrible.
Compared to my poco f2 pro which only has a 4700mah battery the pixel 7 pro's battery life is pretty abysmal. I used to run twice the **** on that phone and it still didn't die as fast as the p7p. Hope a few firmware updates will get it to a better place. Turing off pick up and tap screen to wake made a little bit better but it's still abysmal imo.
For whatever it's worth, I've had mine (unlocked google / 512) since Thursday. Accubattery has been on since Friday when I rooted and started restoring apps . Just checking it and coming off a full charge overnight (trickle charge) it's estimating I have 11 hours of SOT, 62 hours screen off time. Since it was off the charger around 3 hours ago it's dropped 2% with 26 minutes of SOT.
To be fair I use my phone for email, texts, minor information/news gathering and music streaming and light photo/video recording without much running in the background so I'm not a high power user. YMMV
Weird. My experience is completely the opposite - 6 hours 23 minutes SOT with 21% remaining yesterday on my first full cycle when I put it back on charge. No complaints at all.
Did anyone with poor battery performance transfer apps to the new phone through cable? This has been bad for battery on new phones as ooposed to letting the new phone download the apps.....
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Did anyone with poor battery performance transfer apps to the new phone through cable? This has been bad for battery on new phones as ooposed to letting the new phone download the apps.....
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The Pixel 7P and 6P I have here ran like total garbage when I transferred data between the two with a USB cable. A fresh install made both phones run great.

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