A lot of people have brought this up and I too felt like I was experiencing it. I can without a doubt say the battery is draining faster on 8.1. Before everyone starts with "check your apps, bla, bla bla", let me explain.
I recently RMA'd my Pixel 2 for a different problem. Prior to the RMA, I noticed that my battery seemed to take a hit after the update. However, I had already installed various apps and my feelings were purely speculative. As part of the RMA, I had performed a factory reset as instructed and over the course of 4 days my battery performance was still at the worsened 8.1 levels. I should also state that over the 4 days spent waiting for my replacement phone, I installed no apps and only updated the official Google ones that came pre-installed on the phone.
I received my new phone and this one shipped with 8.0. Again, I've installed no additional apps and I have paid attention to the battery over the last two days. As the day goes on, it gets difficult to determine if it is draining any faster. Luckily, my morning routine is damn near robotic. I eat a bowl of cereal and read the same news sites while using my phone. I take a shower and drive in to work. With my original phone on 8.0, I would arrive at work with my battery showing 99-100%. With the 8.1 update, my battery had dropped at this point in the morning all the way down to 94-96% (this drop was consistently reproduced for ~2 weeks). With my RMA replacement I am still on 8.0 and following my usual morning routine my phone is still at 100%.
I know that this test is not the most scientific but I think it is controlled enough to be able to say that something is different between 8.0 and 8.1. I know that others have voiced their concern that the battery performance has suffered. Has anyone rolled back to 8.0 and saw the battery go back to normal? I have a theory about the 8.1 update, but at this point I would rather not share it as it may guide the discussion down the wrong path.
I don't know how much truth there is to this, but some were speculating that 8.0 actually did not report battery percentage correctly, whereas 8.1 fixed this to report correct usage. FWIW, I'm getting to the end of the day pretty consistently with around 50% battery left and 4 hrs SOT, and I think that's a much better measure than how long it takes to drop from 100.
I've heard that too about battery reporting.
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I don't know how much truth there is to this, but some were speculating that 8.0 actually did not report battery percentage correctly, whereas 8.1 fixed this to report correct usage. FWIW, I'm getting to the end of the day pretty consistently with around 50% battery left and 4 hrs SOT, and I think that's a much better measure than how long it takes to drop from 100.
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I don't think it's speculating. There was definitely something wrong with the battery calibration on 8.0. I'd have two hours of screen on time after taking it off the charger and it would still say 100%. At first I thought it was stuck and not working at all but eventually it would start to drop. As we all know, there's no way you can have that much SOT and still be at 100%. There's no doubt the battery level indicator drops faster when you first unplug the phone after updating to 8.1 but the bottom line is (at least for me) I still end up at the end of the day with pretty much the same battery left as I did when I had 8.0. That's all that really matters to me pretty much tells the story.
The prior 8.0 battery I believe had a bug where it did not report correctly. I remember before I'd use my phone for a long period before it even moved off 100%;
I did the 8.1 update and my battery is much better than it was on my previous phone. I may have had a bad device.
I think that is a bad way to judge battery. It is more accurate with 8.1 as with 8.0 i would get like 30 minutes of screen time some times and still be at 100-99%. if you do that math on that this would probably last me the whole week. But I used to get ~ 5hours of screen time and now i will be lucky to get 4 hours. My routine and work schedule is the same since the update. 8.1 I for sure lost about 1 hour of screen time.
I just got my Pixel 2 and have had it for 3 days now. I did my first test today against my original Pixel. My original was charged up to about 95% and my Pixel 2 was also charged up to 95%. I left my original sitting at home while I took my Pixel 2 to work with me. If I had had my original with me, my phone would be charging right now because it would be below 15%. Pixel 2 is sitting pretty at 67% As for the original that has been sitting on my night stand doing nothing, it's at 56%.
So if there's a battery issue with 8.1, either i'm not experiencing it or I should be at a higher percentage, lol. BTW, both phones all have the same apps and same configurations. Running for about 13hrs each. And as others have said, I remember also seeing that 8.0 was giving incorrect battery readings on the Pixel 2, which 8.1 fixed.
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I've had my nexus s (9020a) since late November (bought it used, in execellent condition.) While battery life was never awesome, it was at least bearable - until last week. I'm now unable to get more than 6 hours on a battery with super-minimal usage. For instance, today, as of right now, I have 5h 58m 57s (at 7% battery left) - the top "user" being the display (32%) with a "time on" of 17m 30s. Even when I power the phone completely off (not the screen, literally powering off) - say for a half hour or so - when I power it back on I lose substantial amount of battery.
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Currently running stock 2.3.6 rom (since yesterday), but rooted.
Previously was running stock ICS (flashed the tmobile 2.3.6 ota, then ics, then the att radio) - was fine for the last 2 months
Tried brand new battery (not a samsung, but Anker) - no difference
Tried several different charges, and charging via computer
Have wiped battery stats several times (and done complete resets/formats of everything in between swapping roms)
Phone used to always top out at 95% when charging - but now will go up to 100%
This behavior started up when I was on vacation - a few hours after landing in SLC, UT. I do recall a sudden crash / reboot of the phone before the problems started - but I have gotten random reboots in the past. Was running ICS at the time. I thought maybe a poor signal was to blame, but again, the battery would drain even when the phone was powered off (or in airplane mode.)
I'm not sure what else I can/should do - short of calling Samsung. I'd think if it were a hardware issue, it would fail to charge completely. Does anyone have any other ideas or suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
Sounds like something external is draining the battery. I've seen many cases with a magnet on them drain the battery very quickly, or possibly excessive heat. If not i would say it's some kind of hardware problem.
Does not sound like android chewing it up.
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Sounds like something external is draining the battery. I've seen many cases with a magnet on them drain the battery very quickly, or possibly excessive heat. If not i would say it's some kind of hardware problem.
Does not sound like android chewing it up.
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I don't have a case on it - just a screen protector. The battery does tend to run in the mid 90s fahrenheit (according to battery status apps.. though I think I have seen it as high as the low 100s (maybe 102?) - but I figured that was normal.
Another weird behavior I should mention: sometimes when I power off and on while charging, it will cause the battery percentage to jump considerably. Right now, two consecutive on-off-on cycles (within the span of 3 minutes) caused the battery percentage to jump from 36% to 44% to 57%.
Heats normal. Not sure what it could be to be honest. Maybe grab a can of compressed air and spray around the back, maybe dust causing a short or something.
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Heats normal. Not sure what it could be to be honest. Maybe grab a can of compressed air and spray around the back, maybe dust causing a short or something.
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Thanks, will try that
Sent it back to Samsung for "repair". As I suspected, all they incompetently did was re-flash 2.3.4 and say "passed all functional testing". Phone is still hosed and completely useless as-is.
(Fully charged, overnight - less than 8 hours - went down to 17%, with no apps running, no google accounts, no sync, no background anything, no screen time, no wifi, in airplane mode)
Samsung really is hopeless. Going to try again with them? Whatever you decide, best of luck. Hope it works out for you.
what is the mv reading when the phone is fully charged? Fully charged should be around 4200mv
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Samsung really is hopeless. Going to try again with them? Whatever you decide, best of luck. Hope it works out for you.
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Trying again, but not optimistic. I talked to about 4 total "customer support" people today.. at least got them to "upgrade" me to 2-day shipping for sending back and forth instead of the normal ups ground.
It is so foreign to me - coming from Apple where, under warranty, they'll pretty much swap problematic devices out for new ones _in store_ on a dime. I pretty much begged Samsung to just send me a refurb unit to replace it with but they said thats "not their policy."
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what is the mv reading when the phone is fully charged? Fully charged should be around 4200mv
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I don't have it with me (send it back for round number two) but I am fairly certain that is around what it was reading.
The thing would even burn through battery when powered off, if the battery was still left in. Taking the battery out = no drop. It has to be something hardware.
I've had the XT 1080, droid Maxx, about 9 months now. For the last 6 months, I really giving the battery a good workout... Keeping it plugged in while running many apps at once. I do occasionally let it run almost all the way down before completely recharging it. Lately, it will not even slowly recharge while plugged in and running all those apps at once. The battery has gotten very hot a time or two, but not very often at all. Should I seriously think about changing the battery, I can do it...I've been inside the phone before.
Yes! I am running an Ultra with a similar issue. Today my phone was telling me it would take 4 hours to charge from 50% and it's been discharging about twice as fast as usual. I run with pretty much everything off because I try to squeeze every second of life out of the battery and it's still pretty ****ty. I'm completely stock.
Good news for both of us, is that the phone is relatively easy to get into, and replace the battery. Couple of videos out there on YouTube on how to get in the phone. Similar to the Droid Razr, but easier I think. My new battery is already on its way.
AFAIK there are problems with battery somewhere inside android-os on 4.4 (and 4.4.4 fixes this issue).
Motorola assist just updated, & I think that may have been the battery hog. I noticed it not functioning very well at times. I'll let you know after my shift tonight.
Ah, nope, still draining, but I know who's doing it now. Could be an update changed the power usage. Still going to change the battery.
I won't waste space. If you want tips on replacing the battery PM me. It was...interesting.
anyone else notice it? first off, I'd be at like 40 minutes screen on time before I'd drop to 99 percent... now, it drops immediately after unplugging, and that 40 min screen on time, I'll be at like 69 percent now. it's absolutely ridiculous. battery drains like crazy now, but nothing is running in the background that shouldn't be. everything is identical to pre 8.1 update. today I was at right under 60 min screen on time, at like 59 percent. I looked at old screenshots pre 8.1, and I'd be at like 2.5 hours screen on time at 59 percent. it's absolutely ridiculous that Google is purposely ruining the phone with each update in terms of battery life. I'm not the only one, either. it's on reddit as well. planned obsolescence? yep, I'm starting to think so.
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Man. Do you live off grid or something and can only charge every 2 days or something. If you want 3+ hours of SOT than you would have to be close to a charger anyways and that's with any phone. All these phones that have come out late 2016 early 2017 have the same battery set up...use your phone and charge it fast and use your phone some more.
My pixel 2 same as my Moto z2 force and my s8
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anyone else notice it? first off, I'd be at like 40 minutes screen on time before I'd drop to 99 percent... now, it drops immediately after unplugging, and that 40 min screen on time, I'll be at like 69 percent now. it's absolutely ridiculous. battery drains like crazy now, but nothing is running in the background that shouldn't be. everything is identical to pre 8.1 update. today I was at right under 60 min screen on time, at like 59 percent. I looked at old screenshots pre 8.1, and I'd be at like 2.5 hours screen on time at 59 percent. it's absolutely ridiculous that Google is purposely ruining the phone with each update in terms of battery life. I'm not the only one, either. it's on reddit as well. planned obsolescence? yep, I'm starting to think so.
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I really doubt it's any different than it was. It's more likely the battery wasn't reporting correctly in 8.0. When I was on 8.0 the battery would sit at 100% for at least an hour, maybe 2, all the while I was using the phone. Yes, since 8.1 it drops much faster when I first start using it after removing it from the charger but at the end of the day I still have pretty much the same battery percentage left as I did when I was on 8.0. It drops faster to begin with but in the end, it's the same as before. Rather than planned obsolescence, it's more likely they simply fixed something that wasn't working properly before. There's no way you can use one of these things for an hour or more and not have the battery drop below 100%. Just my two cents worth.
Can't complain. Forgot twice to plug it in at night, woke up both times with 45% left. At my regular use that is good. My previous S7 would have been down to <20%. BTW, this:
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it's absolutely ridiculous that Google is purposely ruining the phone with each update in terms of battery life.
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is just utter BS, maybe you should reinforce you aluminum hat...
I can't say my battery life has been bad or gotten worse with 8.1. If anything it got better. I didn't plug mine in last night, woke up with 38% left. That was about 20 hours since last charge. I don't think Google is purposely obsoleting their newest phones a couple months after release either.....
Edit: I should mention, I have my AOD always on, I have Now Playing enabled, double-tap-to wake is disabled, and I use one of the prepackaged Pixel 2 live wallpapers (Marvelous Marble). The only ting I really do thinking of the battery is turn the phone face down when I go to bed since that shuts off the display.
so i guess the fact that my screen on time has dropped by over an hour means I'm the one who's crazy, and the phone is perfectly fine.... riiiiiggghht.
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it's absolutely ridiculous that Google is purposely ruining the phone with each update in terms of battery life. I'm not the only one, either. it's on reddit as well. planned obsolescence? yep, I'm starting to think so.
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so i guess the fact that my screen on time has dropped by over an hour means I'm the one who's crazy, and the phone is perfectly fine.... riiiiiggghht.
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I'm pretty sure this part of your post is the crazy part. Your battery drain is probably real. Have you confirmed it exists on a clean install without any apps installed or system configurations changed? Only then should you entertain that this is Google's fault. Even then, accusing them of doing it on purpose runs dangerously close to tinfoil hat territory.
I feel my battery life has gone down slightly going from 8.0 to 8.1. Though, I'm running all the bells and whistles this phone has to offer, along with tasker profiles. I also agree with the previous statement. Perhaps the system wasn't accurately measuring the battery life.
I did have horrible battery life for a bit when I was playing with a new kernel and dirty flashing some things to get Viper4Android working.
I have two Pixel 2 phones (non XL), and honestly they are amazing at battery compared to my HTC M8s (again two) . Are they perfect? No. Are they better than any phone I've ever had? Yes.
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As has been said above, the battery no longer sticks at 100% for the first hour or so of screen on time, but that was always obviously nonsense anyway so a fair conclusion is that it's now better calibrated. But I've noticed no difference overall in battery life: yesterday was the first time I tried running for 2 days rather than charging overnight, and when I plugged it at night it had run for 41 hours with 6 and a quarter hours screen on and 7% remaining, so really not a problem there.
If you're having trouble with an update:
- Use BetterBatteryStats to figure out if any apps are acting up (or just top off the battery, use phone normally, and check Google's battery stats for Apps Using Battery, standby drain and screen on time)
- Clean flash the factory image, set up phone as new, go through charge cycle and check stats.
I'm not having any issues with battery on 8.1 (clean installed factory image). Easily get 4 - 6 hours SOT. As a matter of fact, my battery life is shockingly excellent for a smaller device like this.
Google is not making battery worse on purpose with their brand new flagship device.
I don't have any issues with the battery after the 8.1 update. It doesn't stay on 100% for a long time like it used to, but like everyone else is saying, that must have been buggy before. It isn't realistic for the battery to stick on 100% with 40 mins of SOT. Overall I don't see a reduction in battery life and I'm quite happy with the 8.1 update.
I was checking BBS and couldn't tell much. Do you still need to install it as a system app?
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If you're having trouble with an update:
- Use BetterBatteryStats to figure out if any apps are acting up (or just top off the battery, use phone normally, and check Google's battery stats for Apps Using Battery, standby drain and screen on time)
- Clean flash the factory image, set up phone as new, go through charge cycle and check stats.
I'm not having any issues with battery on 8.1 (clean installed factory image). Easily get 4 - 6 hours SOT. As a matter of fact, my battery life is shockingly excellent for a smaller device like this.
Google is not making battery worse on purpose with their brand new flagship device.
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I was checking BBS and couldn't tell much. Do you still need to install it as a system app?
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Not sure. I haven't used it for quite a while. The built in battery info works well enough for me, I haven't been having issues. It's good for checking wakelocks and some more advanced stuff but I think it needs a few cycles/days before it can analyze properly.
I think it's just the way oreo is. Ever since 8.0 it just drains the battery very aggressively. 8.1 the OS runs smoother, but battery drain is still high. Been the case though since 8.0 for me, nothing new.
I haven't clean flashed in over 6 months though. Just been on 7.1 and been rolling up the OTAs and chugging along. I found using Naptime by Franco helps a bit.
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IMO battery life has never been great on the Pixel 2. It's the same on 8.1 as it was on 8.0 for me.
Right now I'm trending towards 6 hours SOT (3 hrs SOT at 50%), and I have been BT streaming audiobooks most of the day. I also watched Netflix for 30 min on full brighness. That's better than 8.0 for me, I was lucky to get 5 hrs SOT max.
I would say the calibration is more accurate now, it hung on 100% for too long, so it may appear to drain faster but so far in practice I've gained battery.
Battery life isn't as good as my OP5, but that has a big battery compared to the Pixel 2. I think for it's size it's doing a good job.
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I think it's just the way oreo is. Ever since 8.0 it just drains the battery very aggressively. 8.1 the OS runs smoother, but battery drain is still high. Been the case though since 8.0 for me, nothing new.
I haven't clean flashed in over 6 months though. Just been on 7.1 and been rolling up the OTAs and chugging along. I found using Naptime by Franco helps a bit.
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I guess you are talking about one of your other devices here, rather than the Pixel 2.
I am getting horrible battery life since going to 8.1
I installed the update the night of the 13th. The past 2 days my battery drains to 20% in about 8 hours. At that point whatever is causing it was stopped by the battery saver mode or the reboot I did when I discovered the phone was in battery saver mode.
Light use at work, staring at my phone is not a thing I have time for. No streaming, no surfing. Just checking texts and emails here and there. Prior to the update I'd get home 12 hours after I left the house and be around 75-80%. Not rooted, not unlocked. Bone stock.
Built in battery stats say 'system' is the culprit. Digging deeper I see Google Play Services app used 70% of my battery from about 7am to around 4 or 5pm this evening. I'd post a screen shot but I didn't to think of taking one before I plugged it in. I just installed BBS and will monitor it for a day.
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I guess you are talking about one of your other devices here, rather than the Pixel 2.
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I thought this was the 5x forum for some reason. Pixel 2 no issues. It was my 5x
I'm not even kidding. Everything was perfect and I had absolutely no problems until they sent out that update. Now I can watch my battery percentage dropping by the second and my phone will shut off around 30%.
Once again, I had no problems until the August update. I never even rooted this phone, so the last thing I want to do is to figure that out to downgrade to the last version. I will if I have to though
If your phone spontaneously shuts down with the battery at 30%, then I see 2 possibilities:
It's overheating, or
The battery has reached end-of-life
Use an app to determine the remaining capacity of your battery (usually displayed in mAh). The results of such apps should be taken with a grain of salt, but if it says your battery is only at 60 or 70% of original capacity, then it's definitely not normal.
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I'm not even kidding. Everything was perfect and I had absolutely no problems until they sent out that update. Now I can watch my battery percentage dropping by the second and my phone will shut off around 30%.
Once again, I had no problems until the August update. I never even rooted this phone, so the last thing I want to do is to figure that out to downgrade to the last version. I will if I have to though
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You could try to go to recovery, wipe cache and reboot. Or, if possible, wait for the next security update and see if it gets fixed if you have a spare phone to use. These are the only two opportunities without messing around or loosing data.
A downgrade always needs a full data wipe AFAIK. If you aren't afraid of data loss, you could try a full factory reset and see if the battery drain is gone.
I noticed the same on my Pixel - i don't use it a great deal and was seeing 6 days before it'd drop to 30 to 35% battery level, now i'm seeing 2.5 to 3 days - my usage has not changed
I really don't think it's battery nearing end of life - the phone & battery are just now hitting the 2 yr mark
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I noticed the same on my Pixel - i don't use it a great deal and was seeing 6 days before it'd drop to 30 to 35% battery level, now i'm seeing 2.5 to 3 days - my usage has not changed
I really don't think it's battery nearing end of life - the phone & battery are just now hitting the 2 yr mark
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I don't think it's end of life either. Like I said, everything was great until the update. My GF got the same phone around the same time and I told her not to update. So she's still running the last version and her phone is still perfect.
Is the battery life still abysmal when running in safe mode? if so, it may be a rogue 3rd party app.
my battery life was crap with the kernel and android system after i updated to August as well. I assumed it was a Magisk update or module that was the issue. Once I moved to Android Pie my battery life has returned.
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Is the battery life still abysmal when running in safe mode? if so, it may be a rogue 3rd party app.
my battery life was crap with the kernel and android system after i updated to August as well. I assumed it was a Magisk update or module that was the issue. Once I moved to Android Pie my battery life has returned.
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I haven't tried safe mode - my battery was surprising decent under Android 8. the day it updated to Android 9 it went south in a handbasket. And i noticed "battery saver" selection is no longer available
i'm trying to read up and re-learn installing a custom rom, and which rom to choose - i last did a custom rom in 2010 and haven't been near the forums since then, but this issue and the more i learn about google's surveillance collection, i want to go custom
Since you're willing to install a custom ROM, why not try to reinstall the full stock ROM first?
appreciate the suggestion - that's what i originally wanted to do and posted here a few weeks back asking how to revert to android 8 and was told it couldn't be done but i could do a custom rom
and now, with the privacy issues i've been reading about, i think i'd prefer to limit my services as googles' "product". It kind of alarmed me how sensitive the phone's microphone was - i actually wrapped the phone in a heavy towel and left it 5 feet away, and said "OK google" in a normal voice - and bam, it was opened when i unwrapped the phone. There's no reason for the microphone to be that sensitive, imho
but i'm an old fart, and the younger generations don't seem to relish their privacy like i do - that's fine for them, no judgment on my part, i just like my privacy
Hi guys,
today i updated my OP 8 to OOS 11.0.2.2 and noticed a very fast battery drain...
Anyone else with this problem here (and maybe a solution ?)???
Should i rollback to OOS 10 and wait a few more update?
Thx a lot and greetings!
@stefan.irmen
How long after installing Android 11 on your OnePlus 8 did you notice this strange battery drain? If you noticed this during your first battery cycle I would wait and see what happens once you charge up again. See if it still seems strange. I've had my phone's have crazy drain during cycle one after flashing something new then afterwards never had it occur again.
I know you more than likely already know this since you are on XDA but I always only charge my devices until they're done and immediately take them off the charger and I only ever use the same exact charger that came with my devices because others aren't made for it properly and many generic chargers don't get any tests ran to make sure they're truly whatever the description says they are on their packaging.
I installed it today in the morning on 8 am and noticed it the whole day... After installing the update i did some new settings and after all i cleared cache and did a restart...
But you are right, i will charge my device now over night and will have a look about it the next days... Then i will make a short report if it is better ;-)
Taking off the device after charging isnt easy for me, because i often have to charge it over night when i sleep... But didnt have such draining problems over years with a lot of devices (except Apple )!
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I installed it today in the morning on 8 am and noticed it the whole day... After installing the update i did some new settings and after all i cleared cache and did a restart...
But you are right, i will charge my device now over night and will have a look about it the next days... Then i will make a short report if it is better ;-)
Taking off the device after charging isnt easy for me, because i often have to charge it over night when i sleep... But didnt have such draining problems over years with a lot of devices (except Apple )!
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I use a OnePlus 6t now and the Dash wall charger and it takes me less than an hour to charge it every night. I just plug up when I get home in the evening and grab it a hour later and take it off and let it idle all night and get up next day and grab it and go. I'm at 98-99% from 100% by next morning. I use this way I charge up to kinda keep ma eye on my idle drain as well in case I have any rouge apps, I'd know when I wake up. I always flip data and all off just before I go to sleep. I'm sure your OnePlus 8 gets better battery life than my two year old OnePlus 6t does but I'm a BIG battery guru. To me, battery life is vital. I clear 7-8 hours SOT on my 6t depending on what all I do with it. When I'm off work I probably get 6-7 hours SOT and 20-25 hours total before I end up plugging it in again. I never plug up at night in single digits, my battery is usually 15-20% when I plug her in to my OnePlus Dash wall charger. I set things up from within my phone to be aggressive far as doze goes. (I use naptime & servicely apps) I know these OnePlus phones don't even need any extra tweaking far as battery goes but when I started modding Android back on Nexus S I first came to XDA trying to get my Samsung Galaxy S2 to get better battery life. I never would have imagined I would from that day forward read XDA news and go over whatever device I'm using at the times forum.
I didn't know I even was interested in computers, software development.. Coming here and reading is something I've done daily for hours since the Nexus S days.. Besides things like brushing my teeth and taking a shower, you know usually common human things, XDA has been probably one of the only things I've done daily all those years and never gotten tired of it.
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Thanks for your large answer and the little look in your interests ;-)
So far i'm using my device today, everything seems normal, lets have a look on it in the evening...
It's very exemplary how you use and treat your battery - but i'm sure 99% of the user (including me) don't do that... And i think we don't want this, because -for me- my phone is a daily driver and i'm using it every day for a lot of things - if the battery lasts 1-2 years its quiet enough! After that time i will have a newer phone Mostly after one year ;-)