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Oleophobic vs Gorilla

Oleophobic Coating vs Corning Gorilla Glass. So the Oleophobic Coating is not a scratch-resistant protection?? Not even a little bit? If so....which one better glass? Gorilla or Oleophobic? I mean is it easy for phones like Nexus S to get scratch?

A coating is just that. The layer added to the Glass to make it more resistant to the oils on your fingertips. It's got nothing to do with scratch resistance. Any of the glass screens can have a coating applied.
Gorilla Glass is made by a company called Corning and is simply more resilient to breakage. No glass is scratch proof, or even scratch resistant. It all depends on the material doing the scratching and the size of it. Grit that may be found in your pocket and composed of natural minerals will easily scratch any Glass, more so than your house keys, for example.
Check the Mohs Scale to see the relevant 'Hardness'. Glass and metals are quite low compared to naturally occurring Minerals:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale

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i thot gorrila screens were strong!

Sonone said:
i thot gorrila screens were strong!
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Stronger than regular glass. And strong in some respects, but not others. They are most vulnerable to edge or corner pressure. And nothing is indestructible, and Gorilla Glass is far from unbreakable. Plenty of folks have broken GG on this and other devices.

redpoint73 said:
Stronger than regular glass. And strong in some respects, but not others. They are most vulnerable to edge or corner pressure. And nothing is indestructible, and Gorilla Glass is far from unbreakable. Plenty of folks have broken GG on this and other devices.
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BTW just a quick question is it true that sand and dust can scratch it since silica is harder than the glass composition or is it a very rare case?

Sonone said:
BTW just a quick question is it true that sand and dust can scratch it since silica is harder than the glass composition or is it a very rare case?
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I don't know the exact hardness of Gorilla Glass, but quartz (the most common form of silica) as well as other minerals falls higher on Mohs hardness scale than glass, and therefore has the ability to scratch it.
Also remember that GG is only claimed to be damage resistant and scratch resistant. Its not claimed to be impossible to scratch, by any stretch.
Many folks will be rough with their phones, have no protection, and never get a scratch on the screen. But a significant number of folks have posted on here to have gotten scratches on GG with normal usage. Although almost certainly in the minority or even uncommon, its something I would not consider a "very rare case".
If you are worried about it, but a protector on. Whether to use a protector is a very personal decision. I know lots of folks hate them, and go successfully without. But to me, its a very minimal (if any) change to appearance and feel if you use a quality one; and worth it for the peace of mind. The thing about scratches, is that once it happens it really can't be undone.

redpoint73 said:
I don't know the exact hardness of Gorilla Glass, but quartz (the most common form of silica) as well as other minerals falls higher on Mohs hardness scale than glass, and therefore has the ability to scratch it.
Also remember that GG is only claimed to be damage resistant and scratch resistant. Its not claimed to be impossible to scratch, by any stretch.
Many folks will be rough with their phones, have no protection, and never get a scratch on the screen. But a significant number of folks have posted on here to have gotten scratches on GG with normal usage. Although almost certainly in the minority or even uncommon, its something I would not consider a "very rare case".
If you are worried about it, but a protector on. Whether to use a protector is a very personal decision. I know lots of folks hate them, and go successfully without. But to me, its a very minimal (if any) change to appearance and feel if you use a quality one; and worth it for the peace of mind. The thing about scratches, is that once it happens it really can't be undone.
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ya i have ordered a matte screen guard would be coming soon... thanks for the advice mate!

Niilken 9H+ tempered glass protector

Just received Niilken 9H+ tempered glass screen protector from www.cbay.co.nz
Handful of cleaning agents included with the protector.
1. Wet cleaning cloth
2. Dry cleaning cloth
3. Adhesive film to remove dust
4. Wiping cloth
5. Extra stickers to hold the protector without directly touching
Unfortunately, the one I received did not fully adhere to the screen. There were gaps all around the protector border, and refused to set properly even after firmly pressing it down.
It did not affect s-pen functionality nor front camera, but it could have been better.
Overall, otherwise looks good and does its job as one of the first tempered glass protectors for note 4.
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Wrong forum thread. The reason the glass does not fit properly is because of the 2.5D screen shape at the edges.

jah said:
Wrong forum thread. The reason the glass does not fit properly is because of the 2.5D screen shape at the edges.
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That is not the reason. 2.5D is for the top surface, not underneath.

mkim055 said:
That is not the reason. 2.5D is for the top surface, not underneath.
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He's quite right, on both counts.
The phone's screen curves almost imperceptibly before it gets to the "obvious" curve at the edge of the screen. Most (all current?) tempered glass protectors are perfectly flat on the backside - this doesn't adhere properly at the edges because the phone's screen curves away.
The threads in the accessories section have covered this in quite some detail. Some manufacturers are busy trying to design a glass protector that both adheres properly and is easy to apply.

SquidgyB said:
He's quite right, on both counts.
The phone's screen curves almost imperceptibly before it gets to the "obvoius" curve at the edge of the screen. most tempered glass protectors are perfectly flat on the backside - this doesn't adhere properly at the edges because the phone's screen curves away.
The threads in the accessories section have covered this in quite some detail. Some manufacturers are busy trying to design a glass protector that both adheres properly and is easy to apply.
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You are right, I actually misread that as 2.5D for screen protector. I am aware of the screen curvature starting within the viewing screen.
Thank you though.
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iloome is currently the only company who is making a Note 4 tempered glass screen protector that is designed to fit OVER the 2.5D curved edges,
All other pieces will either stop short of the curve or will have issues adhering.

Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.

Hendrickson said:
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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"Pretty scratch resistant" isn't "completely immune to scratches". The point being that if you cover your phone with a protector no matter what happens (short of a drop/stanley knife) you're quite literally covered. Having a decent screen protector, glass or not, along with a case means you can throw your phone into a pocket with a bunch of keys with little regard to how your phone will fare.
I'd much rather have to replace a £5-15 protector than realise at some point that there's a scratch on the actual glass on my screen. You can't go back from that - you can replace protectors easily. People have different usage profiles, just because your 3 phones are scratch free, doesn't mean that others won't want to protect theirs.

Hendrickson said:
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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I always thought the same, but afraid to try it.... anybody else not use any protection and not get scratches?

Your right I have friends that are tradesmen, and I wouldn't go without a screen protector if I was them. I wouldn't go with a high even phone either.
But in my case my G3 / Note 4 is in my pocket and just my phone alone. Maybe that's why. I don't put my phone inside with coins or keys. That's asking for trouble

Hendrickson said:
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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One of the reviewers Note 4s screen got scratched during use after a few days(can't remember which site it way). I also remember seeing a video where Gorilla Glass gets microscopic scratches without a protector and these scratches make the whole structure weaker and more prone to shatter when dropped.

S6's gorilla glass 4 - is it really shatter proof?

A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).

No screen is "shatter proof" in a cell phone. You could have gorilla glass 10, and if your phone lands the "right" way, it will break.

xxaarraa said:
A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
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AFAIK, Gorilla Glass 4 is as strong as Gorilla Glass 3 but in a thinner form. And Gorilla Glass 3 is definitely not shatter proof.

Japultra said:
AFAIK, Gorilla Glass 4 is as strong as Gorilla Glass 3 but in a thinner form. And Gorilla Glass 3 is definitely not shatter proof.
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I looked this up too. Here:
"A piece of Gorilla Glass 4 can offer the same damage resistance as a thicker piece of Gorilla Glass 3, so manufacturers like Apple could make their smartphones’ screens 20% to 25% thinner than with Gorilla Glass 3 if they wanted to “settle” with the same damage resistance levels of Gorilla Glass 3."
Seems to imply that manufacturers have a choice - they can thin down the gorilla glass 4 panel and offer the same protection as gorilla glass 3, or they can use a 'standard' thickness gorilla glass 4 panel and offer better impact protection than earlier. Wonder what approach went into the S6 panel.
Read more: http://www.cheatsheet.com/technolog...from-shattering.html/?a=viewall#ixzz3TLHbeTpM

All glass will shatter in the proper conditions. The S6 will be no exception. I say this will make having a case all the more important. I imagine back panels won't be terribly expensive, but the screen will be $$$. Good luck removing the front glass without damaging the LCD panel. I know it's been done on the S3 and up, but the thought of heating up the phone enough to soften the adhesive, while not damaging the other phone components, scares me.

xxaarraa said:
A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
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Survives 80% of the time and is 2x better than competition.

no phone is. i will say if it is anything like the xperia phone it will be a good thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BGQtfDZNt4
the impressive thing about this phone is it's the closet to the S6, both have glass on front and back. the big difference is the xperia uses DragonTail glass and not gorilla at least on the Z2 from what i gather..

Only option to prevent the horror scenario - glass shattering - is to put an UAG or Otterbox case on it and protect the screen with tempered glass. Like Dandroid and others have said you could have Gorilla Glass 25 if the phone is landing on the right spot face first it will shatter no matter what.

frankgreimes said:
Only option to prevent the horror scenario - glass shattering - is to put an UAG or Otterbox case on it and protect the screen with tempered glass. Like Dandroid and others have said you could have Gorilla Glass 25 if the phone is landing on the right spot face first it will shatter no matter what.
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I think you guys are all missing the point of the question. I didn't ask if Gorilla Glass 4 guarantees that the phone will never break. I was merely wondering about it's improved strength and its benefits in everyday scenarios. In hindsight, maybe I should worded it as "shatter resistant" instead of "shatter proof"
And no, some of us don't want to turn our already big phones into clunky laptops or VCRs by putting a hideously huge case on it. Which is precisely why the industry is investing in shatter resistant technology to start with.

xxaarraa said:
I think you guys are all missing the point of the question. I didn't ask if Gorilla Glass 4 guarantees that the phone will never break. I was merely wondering about it's improved strength and its benefits in everyday scenarios. In hindsight, maybe I should worded it as "shatter resistant" instead of "shatter proof"
And no, some of us don't want to turn our already big phones into clunky laptops or VCRs by putting a hideously huge case on it. Which is precisely why the industry is investing in shatter resistant technology to start with.
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Then live with the consequences I doubt you'll ever see full shatter-proof glass on a phone

i want to know if the screen is using the anti reflective coating like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05UFlwnbtfE

The screen on my Note 4 is supposedly Gorilla Glass 4 and I still managed to crack it.

bull****!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...s/samsung-view-case-scratched-screen-t3107467

no, it's not shatter proof, it's more of scratch proof, these screens are built to wishstand a static pressure, which means something that moves on the screen it self, like trying to scratch it, shatter proof means it has to take a dynamic pressure, like dropping or hitting with a hammer or things like that, you can't have both worlds at least in glass...so they focus more on the scratching thing....

We've all seen the drop tests and no doubt dropped their phones without cases from time to time too. I haven't broken a screen by dropping a naked phone since before the original Xperia Z. The S6 glass is pretty resistant to shattering but best to use a screen protector and take the hit on that instead of the screen.

Just love my s6 being naked since I bought it .. I don't care about shattered or not.. they have spent billion of dollars for R&D to development such technology.. so why can't we just enjoy it as it's out of the box... otherwise nothing left forever guys...

Does Corning® Gorilla® Glass 5 is on AMOLED also or just back side ?

The official website specs https://www.oneplus.in/nord-specs
it is not clear whether the Fluid AMOLED is protected by Gorilla Glass 5 or not, and what about the back side camera glass ? is that also Gorilla glass 5 ?
the above mentioned "Cover Glass: Corning® Gorilla® Glass 5" is very vague. my questions is what do they mean cover ? how much of coverage is complete in their interpretation of the line ?

abhilash_s_j said:
The official website specs https://www.oneplus.in/nord-specs
it is not clear whether the Fluid AMOLED is protected by Gorilla Glass 5 or not, and what about the back side camera glass ? is that also Gorilla glass 5 ?
the above mentioned "Cover Glass: Corning® Gorilla® Glass 5" is very vague. my questions is what do they mean cover ? how much of coverage is complete in their interpretation of the line ?
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Some reviews say Gorrila glass 5 and saw one say the screen was gorilla glass 6.
Then I'm seeing that it's not actually glass build at all and some sort of plastic polycarbonate which is being widely reported but not mentioned by Oneplus.