Do you keep the battery mod on all the time? - Moto Z Force Accessories

I'm thinking out of picking up the Incipio battery mod. I normally plug in with about 30% left but after my research on prolonging battery life, I'm realizing the battery mod might actually extend the life of the Z Force battery.
Any ways, the point/question is: do you leave the mod always attached and charge it at night (or when you need to)? Or do you only attach the mod when your battery hits a certain percentage?

So far I only lose about 20% during a day. I know that's not much but I'm connected to a 4g network extender so I don't search for a signal.
To answer your question the first day I had the battery mod I set it in efficiency mode and just slapped it on. That sets the mod battery to kick in when the phi e battery hits 80%. It worked like a charm. At the end of the day my mod was at 70%.
I only used it the first day and since then it's just been sitting there charged. But I try to not let my battery fall below 70-80%.
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I leave my tumi battery mod connected all of the time.
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Hopefully you will find my experience with the TUMI Wireless charging mod relevant, as I don't have experience with the incipio. I leave the TUMI on at all times. When I plug in before bed the TUMI stays attached and charges along with the phone. When I unplug and both the mod and phone are at 100%, the phone discharges until 80% when the TUMI kicks in automatically and keeps the phone charged at 80% until the TUMI hits 0% at which point the phone begins discharging from 80%. I've had this for a couple weeks now and my phone's battery level now occupies 0% of my thoughts throughout the day. It's like being back to the days of the flip phones that ran for 2 or 3 days before needing a charge (... at least that's a safe assumption, as I have no reason to not plug in before bed thus I've never tried to see how many days I can get). I leave every possible background process on, I have 4 or 5 widgets, wifi, Bluetooth, mobile data, high accuracy location mode, Nfc... all those are left on 100% of the time.
The one thing I will say is that the battery mod does add significant weight... but not size (I actually find it easier to hold with the mod attached). For me the extra weight is, comparatively, a very small price to pay for the above benefits.
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For the record, the Tumi, Kate Spade, and Incipio should all behave identically...as they are all made by Incipio...the only differences between the 3 are looks...and price
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edneum2 said:
Hopefully you will find my experience with the TUMI Wireless charging mod relevant, as I don't have experience with the incipio. I leave the TUMI on at all times. When I plug in before bed the TUMI stays attached and charges along with the phone. When I unplug and both the mod and phone are at 100%, the phone discharges until 80% when the TUMI kicks in automatically and keeps the phone charged at 80% until the TUMI hits 0% at which point the phone begins discharging from 80%. I've had this for a couple weeks now and my phone's battery level now occupies 0% of my thoughts throughout the day. It's like being back to the days of the flip phones that ran for 2 or 3 days before needing a charge (... at least that's a safe assumption, as I have no reason to not plug in before bed thus I've never tried to see how many days I can get). I leave every possible background process on, I have 4 or 5 widgets, wifi, Bluetooth, mobile data, high accuracy location mode, Nfc... all those are left on 100% of the time.
The one thing I will say is that the battery mod does add significant weight... but not size (I actually find it easier to hold with the mod attached). For me the extra weight is, comparatively, a very small price to pay for the above benefits.
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This.
I want to be able to use my phone as it was meant to be used without thinking about battery life later in the day.

Note that only the non-wireless model charges the mod through the phone when the phone is plugged in via wire...
The wireless charging capable Tumi mod only charges via wireless. It will NOT charge through the phone.
Obviously when wireless charging it will charge both the mod and phone. When wired charging it only does the phone and not the mod.
However the non-wireless one does charge the mod when charging via wire (I tested it).
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Note that only the non-wireless model charges the mod through the phone when the phone is plugged in via wire...
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Wow seriously? So if I got the Incipio with wireless charging from Best Buy, I wont be able to charge it without buying a wireless charging pad?

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Wow seriously? So if I got the Incipio with wireless charging from Best Buy, I wont be able to charge it without buying a wireless charging pad?
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Not true, I have the Tumi wireless mod: wired & wireless both charge mod & phone.

I have two of both models of Tumi in front of me, and I am 100% sure neither of the wireless models will charge through the phone when it is connected via USB. Not sure why yours is different...
To be clear both of the non-wireless models I have DO charge through the phone when connected via USB...
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I have the incipio wireless charging battery pack, can confirm it does charge when the phone is connected with usb.

I wonder if it matters if the mod is in 'efficiency mode' or not... I didn't think so from previous testing, but I'll check that tomorrow.
Edit: I have been using another usb-c cable/charger, not the 'turbo 30' one that came with the phone... That may be the difference. I'll test tomorrow.
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So I'll have to apologize. I charged one of the phones with the usb charger that came with the phone, and it DID charge both the phone and mod.
So I must have something else going on with my setup at work, as it definitely does NOT there (even after being plugged in for hours) ...
Sorry for the confusion, and misinformation!
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It's been noted that the mods don't charge through the phone on anything but the stock charger or anything that puts out more than 3A @ 5V. That's the minimum requirement for engaging "turbo charging".

I bought my wife the Kate Spade battery pack and it officially died as a result of using a Droid Turbo 1 charger for her nightly charge. The first week or two, it charged just fine throughout the night. Now, however, it won't charge, even on the stock charger (although it will sometimes glitch out and say there is a 97% charge while still not supplying juice to the phone).
I have the Tumi with wireless charging, and I definitely prefer being able to charge it without the phone attached. As for my wife's, Big Red said that they offer a 1 year warranty on accessories, so I'll be able to take the dead one in for an exchange.
Word to the wise: use the stock charger whenever charging your phone with a non-wireless charging model of the battery packs attached. Wireless charging seems to work just fine, every night.
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It's been noted that the mods don't charge through the phone on anything but the stock charger or anything that puts out more than 3A @ 5V. That's the minimum requirement for engaging "turbo charging".
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Actually I get my battery mod to charge using the Verizon branded usb c fast charger. I made sure it worked in a store before I bought it. It does pop up saying turbo charging also. It is not as fast as the Motorola charger. I use Ampere to test them. The Verizon charger is about 2200 and the Motorola one is about 5700. But that and the supplied charger are the only ones that will work to charge the mod. I got screen shots somewhere. I'll try to post them.
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The screen shot with the white background shows the supplied Motorola charger.
The screen shot with the white background is the Verizon branded USB C fast charger.
Hope this helps. I've tried using about 15 different chargers and these were the only 2 that would charge the battery mod. That's not to say there's not other ones out there that will do it. Just sharing what I've found.
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I had the Tumi wireless battery mod. Changed it to the Incipio wireless battery mod. heres what I have found. Both will charge wireless. They will not however charge using any chargers, while connected to phone, without using the supplied charger or the verizon branded usb c fast charger. Both just sit there with any other charger saying waiting to charge.
I spent more time than ill admit to speaking to verizon tech support, motorola tech support, tumi tech support and incipio tech support verifying this.
Yes any charger will charge the phone. but it needed to turbo charge to be able to switch to charging the battery mod. Ive tried about 10 different chargers to test this. QC 2.0 chargers from the turbo chargers wont charge the battery mods.

I use a generic QC 2.0 charger at home, work, and in the car. All three charge the Tumi mod and the phone. Also use a wireless charger plugged into my computer which charges both. I don't think I've even unwrapped the charger that came with the phone.

It is strange how some chargers work and some don't. I have 5 usb-c chargers, 2 work and 3 don't.
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Slow to charge?

My HTC Thunderbolt would often charge above 700mAh. It seems on house charger my Charge will charge at about 270mAh and in the car maybe 370mAh. It seems it takes a while for the Charge to charge? Anybody else see this? Using Battery Monitor Widget.
There's already a thread about this.
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Please direct me to this thread. I searched and did not find it.
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I apologize. It was mentioned on another forum. Get mixed up in all my travels. Basically, make sure that you are using the charger that came with the phone. If charging speed is of the essense, switch the phone to 3g or even airplane mode as it charges. Leave the phone alone while it charges and leave the screen off. If all else fails, contact Verizon and get it swapped out.
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USB/Computer and Wireless charging are at 475mA and the AC/Wall charger should give you 800mA
FYI - I just checked the chargers for the Charge (Am I stuttering?).
The tiny cube travel charger that comes with the phone is a 5.0 VDC / 1.0 A charger.
The Samsung multimedia dock / charger (that has the backup battery) comes with a 5.0 VDC / 0.7 A charger.
So, as crazy as it sounds, the larger dock/charger actually has the slower charging capabilities. This may be to prolong battery life, though.
While LiIon battery packs can be charged quickly, it stresses the battery pack to do so. A slower daily charge will allow for longer overall lifetime for the pack(s).

Maxell air voltage qi wireless

Ive seen threads for almost all the wireless chargers except this one, so ive decided to create one to unite all the information.
Ive just ordered it on amazon for 50€.
What is your experience with it guys? Cant wait to recieve it.
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I have one here and it works fine, charges my phone with no problem and temperatures never go above 36c. The only two issues I have is firstly the Nexus 4 slides around on this thing like there is a layer of Teflon between the phone and charger. I heartily recommend LEAVING the protective film that the Maxell comes with ON the charger that stops the phone slipping.
Secondly forget about using daydream with the charger, in my experience daydream uses up too much power to be useful with wireless charging. The battery charges at snail pace and the phone heats up to over 45c with daydream enabled. I like the Maxell and I like wireless charging my first choice would be the Nexus Orb if it was available, but the Maxell does a good a job as any.
Thanks for the advice. Will keep maxell plastic on. Wish they could deliver it faster. Will take a month
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Just got one of these from eBay for £42. Seems to charge fine with the N4 the S line TPC case on.
My only, albeit minor, issue with it is the bright blue LED which illuminates while charging. This is easily resolved by making sure the N4 covers it or stick a bit of dark tape on top.
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I just picked a Maxell Air Voltage charger up from Ebay here in the UK, it is a very nice bit of kit I must say and works great, the only downside is that the charging range isnt too good, I was expecting at least 6mm so that I could charge it whilst it was in my flip case, it wont charge through the flip case and it wont charge through any case that is metal or has a foil liner this of course is fairly obvious.
i am sure some of the thinner plastic half cases and gel cases it will be fine, I think that the Nillkin Fashion Shape Flip Leather Case is also OK with it so I will pick one of those up with it.
I tested the effective range with UK 2 x 1p pieces stacked on top of each other which is 3.0 mm thick in total, so if your case it over 3mm thick then it wont work without taking the phone out of the case, something to think about if you are going to get this charger.
I wouldnt hang on to get the orb charger, thats a long way off IMHO, the Maxell air voltage is a great unit, is cheap and will work with other QI devices, well worth getting it.
Sounds good so far. I've ordered mine off Amazon after hesitating because of the price.. Taking ages to arrive during this holiday season. Looking forward to it.
Had mine for around 2 weeks now, works perfectly with my tpu case on.
Did originally have daydream turned on and it was a little slow but now its off it charges great.
Well worth the money. If they were a little cheaper i'd buy another!
hi,
does it use 110 or 220 voltage?
I also have the Maxell charger of Ebay and it charges through the Nillkin hard case with no issues at all which was a deal breaker for me if it couldn't.
I agree with the comment to leave Daydream off as it seems to charge the phone better..
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Just got mine. It got up to 98%, does yours get to 100%?
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Mine gets up to 100% although not the first time that I charged it for some reason...
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ianm said:
Just got one of these from eBay for £42. Seems to charge fine with the N4 the S line TPC case on.
My only, albeit minor, issue with it is the bright blue LED which illuminates while charging. This is easily resolved by making sure the N4 covers it or stick a bit of dark tape on top.
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Cheers mate, I was a bit worried about charging through my S-Line case. I've just ordered one from play. I have a desktop stand, but sometimes the connection doesn't fit in properly.
Got my nillkin case for my n4 which is superb and can confirm the Maxwell does charge through it as the other poster mentioned so it isn't a one off, if the case was a little thicker it won't do it though so be warned
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Just got mine. It got up to 98%, does yours get to 100%?
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Mine is getting stuck at 89%. Then it goes in to a state of limbo where it disconnects, uses up a bit of charge, reconnects, gets back to 89% disconnects, etc etc.
Anyone else? Defective unit?
Also, has anyone else suffered severe battery life deterioration after using this? It may well just be coincidence but about 3 days after first using it my battery life has fallen off a cliff. The Android Kernal OS is suddenly showing up at over 30% usage on the stock battery data page, whereas before it was under 10%.
Working fine with mine no problems. But I find when it charges to 100% it waits until it drops to 95% before recharging again. This is fine as I understand that qi charging doesn't allow for trickle charging, so it's either full power or no power. I wouldn't say it degrades the battery life but rather it screws up the battery stats. To fix this I just plug the usb charger once a week or so.
I think the capacity reading gets messed a bit as due to the on/off charging after reaching full charge, since unlike trickle charging where the battery's voltage is kept constant, the voltage is always raising or falling. Depending on when you take your phone away with you in relation to its current charge state you might get a slightly lower capacity for that particular charge.
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Makaijin said:
Working fine with mine no problems. But I find when it charges to 100% it waits until it drops to 95% before recharging again. This is fine as I understand that qi charging doesn't allow for trickle charging, so it's either full power or no power. I wouldn't say it degrades the battery life but rather it screws up the battery stats. To fix this I just plug the usb charger once a week or so.
I think the capacity reading gets messed a bit as due to the on/off charging after reaching full charge, since unlike trickle charging where the battery's voltage is kept constant, the voltage is always raising or falling. Depending on when you take your phone away with you in relation to its current charge state you might get a slightly lower capacity for that particular charge.
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What im going to do to solve this is buy a electricity temporizator and set it to 3 h so it stops once those hours are done. I always charge mobile at the same hour.
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Makaijin said:
Working fine with mine no problems. But I find when it charges to 100% it waits until it drops to 95% before recharging again. This is fine as I understand that qi charging doesn't allow for trickle charging, so it's either full power or no power. I wouldn't say it degrades the battery life but rather it screws up the battery stats. To fix this I just plug the usb charger once a week or so.
I think the capacity reading gets messed a bit as due to the on/off charging after reaching full charge, since unlike trickle charging where the battery's voltage is kept constant, the voltage is always raising or falling. Depending on when you take your phone away with you in relation to its current charge state you might get a slightly lower capacity for that particular charge.
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Trickle charging is horrible for lithium ion/poly batteries. Unplug from AC charger as soon as you can. LiOn batteries don't like to be at full peak 4.2v for long. It's actually better that many of these Qi chargers are only charging to 89 or 95% of capacity by the wireless charges. It's better for the long life of the battery. Charge them often too. Don't let it go down to 10% or 5%. Put them on the charger when your phone is down to 50% and take them off the charger when they get to 90%. It's easy to do with a wireless charger.
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Trickle charging is horrible for lithium ion/poly batteries. Unplug from AC charger as soon as you can. LiOn batteries don't like to be at full peak 4.2v for long. It's actually better that many of these Qi chargers are only charging to 89 or 95% of capacity by the wireless charges. It's better for the long life of the battery. Charge them often too. Don't let it go down to 10% or 5%. Put them on the charger when your phone is down to 50% and take them off the charger when they get to 90%. It's easy to do with a wireless charger.
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Source.
Cuz all that contradicts lithium theory.
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Source.
Cuz all that contradicts lithium theory.
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Batteryuniversity.com
Lakino said:
Trickle charging is horrible for lithium ion/poly batteries. Unplug from AC charger as soon as you can. LiOn batteries don't like to be at full peak 4.2v for long. It's actually better that many of these Qi chargers are only charging to 89 or 95% of capacity by the wireless charges. It's better for the long life of the battery. Charge them often too. Don't let it go down to 10% or 5%. Put them on the charger when your phone is down to 50% and take them off the charger when they get to 90%. It's easy to do with a wireless charger.
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I'm actually aware that constant trickle charging at full charge isn't ideal for long term health of the battery. Which is why I mentioned I only plug the wired usb charger once a week. I only plug it in for about 30 mins so the voltage stabilises as to help the phone more accurately display its charge % state better. Obviously it's all subjective as I've yet to actually perform any tests to see if it's ture or not.
On the subject of long term battery health, trickle charging on wired may not be ideal, but nor is wireless charging due to heat it produces. During wireless charging, according to my battery stats widget the phone reaches 39°C, while wired usb it never goes above 22°C (room temp. basically). The good thing about wireless charging is the heat drops back down when the battery is full and the qi charger is no longer sending any current. But when the charge drops back down to 95 % it restarts charging again, and the heat returns.
So, which is more harmful to the battery, heat or constant trickle charging? In either cases it's still a good practice to remove the phone from the charger (both wired or wireless) once it's reached full charge.
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How do you manage the notifications/screen on when wireless charging at night?

As per title, I have a wireless charger now and like most people I imagine, charge the phablet at night.
So the first notification/screen on I can tolerate to tell me it's charging but then there's the charging complete notification/screen on and then to and fro as some juice depletes and it goes back onto charge.
I'm not rooted (bought the phone outright recently and don't want to invalidate warranty).
I am averagely familiar with using Tasker and Trigger and am open to any suggestions to stop me getting woken up by this.
It seems such an obvious Use Case I am amazed Samsung haven't provided an easy way to do wireless charging without these interruptions.
Thanks,
Joe
I haven't noticed any interruption in charging wirelessly. I get the notification that it started, the one for full, and that's it. If I leave it on the pad it just acts like it is plugged in and maintains until I remove it.
Fwiw, I'm using the PThink Ultra thin qi receiver w/nfc and a yipin q300 dual qi charger. Does the same in my powerbot puck, too.
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Lightflow will allow you to override the factory settings for both of these. You can set quiet hours as well.
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I'm starting to wonder if I have a duff charger mat. When it's at full charge the charging notification comes on every two or three seconds. The mat is quite hot to touch and my battery monitor app shows 39 C.
It's a Choe mat so only a cheapie.

Z3 charging

Are there any people here using a different charger in order to charge the Z3 a little quicker? As it is, it takes forever to fully charge the battery, especially during the last 5%. I want to try the turbo charger from Motorola but I'm concerned of ruining my battery.
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Are there any people here using a different charger in order to charge the Z3 a little quicker? As it is, it takes forever to fully charge the battery, especially during the last 5%. I want to try the turbo charger from Motorola but I'm concerned of ruining my battery.
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The stock charger is pretty fast for me already. What is ur charger's amperage?
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I use the 2.0A charger that came with my Tab S. It charges reasonably fast. However, if you use the magnetic charging cable, it'll charge the phone faster.
I bought the motorola quick charger. I definitely don't plan on using it all the time. It'll be a travel charger where I might need to add some charge in a pinch.
There's a thread documentind the rate at which different charging methods charge at. I put my Turbo Charger results at the bottom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/xperia-z3-battery-life-recharge-t2916773

Huawei Fast Charger is slow as heck

I have imported my Huawei and I absolutely love the phone. Since it is an import it came with a UK Type fast charger. I simply used a wall adapter and powered it over the US current. Well, that fast charger isn't working what so ever - after 2 hours I only go to about 35 percent from 0. I have used my Note 7 charger to charge it, and there the charging times are much faster. Any ideas on what, if anything, I am doing wrong and maybe where I can buy a working Huawei charger. I can't return the charger since I bought the phone over Amazon and it strictly came with no warranty. It is not the end of the world if I can't use the included charger I just want to see how fast this phone truly charges.
Either this post is a joke or someone sold you a non supercharge Huawei charger. Also are you using both the charger and charging cable that came with the phone in the box. It's white with purple in the USB A area
Here from 10 to 80% in 45 minutes
Same here. I find the first 80% to be lightning quick and then it slows to a "normal" charging speed for the last 20%.
Must be something wrong with your charger or cable.
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Using the european adapter, not the UK one, but charging is lightning fast for me as well.
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the orginal adapter and cable
i charge from 0% to 90% in about 55 minutes, the last 10 % are slower maybe 30 minutes to full
greetz benji
Mine took almost 2 hours from 48% to 100%. I'm using Original Huawei charger.......
Install ampere and see what the milliamp charge rate shows as. When the battery is almost dead it should charge at just under 5 amps and will slowly decrease as the battery level increases.
Mine typically goes from 0 to 65% in half an hour, then 90% around half an hour on top of this. The final 10% takes almost another hour.
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Mine took almost 2 hours from 48% to 100%. I'm using Original Huawei charger.......
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Well there is obviously something wrong with your charger, cable or phone. I would guess the first two.
Mine turbocharges in a few minutes. I've been using fir about a year now.
Could be that an "European" charger intended for 220 volts does not provide rapid charge when plugged into a 110 volts wall plug. I have for example an electric toothbrush I bought here in Europe and it refuses to charge on a 110 volt system when using an adapter. Maybe see if you can buy an OEM charger intended for the US?
There are 2 different chargers that are official, there's the supercharge one that comes bundled with the phone which I guess everyone is using and is getting great charging speeds... (Gotta use both the charger and the cable)
And then there's the fast charger which is pretty slow compared to the bundled charger.
The next time you wanna travel abroad make sure you buy a supercharger for that regions type of socket.
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If you buy a replacement make sure it actually says SuperCharge on it.
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