Ive seen threads for almost all the wireless chargers except this one, so ive decided to create one to unite all the information.
Ive just ordered it on amazon for 50€.
What is your experience with it guys? Cant wait to recieve it.
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I have one here and it works fine, charges my phone with no problem and temperatures never go above 36c. The only two issues I have is firstly the Nexus 4 slides around on this thing like there is a layer of Teflon between the phone and charger. I heartily recommend LEAVING the protective film that the Maxell comes with ON the charger that stops the phone slipping.
Secondly forget about using daydream with the charger, in my experience daydream uses up too much power to be useful with wireless charging. The battery charges at snail pace and the phone heats up to over 45c with daydream enabled. I like the Maxell and I like wireless charging my first choice would be the Nexus Orb if it was available, but the Maxell does a good a job as any.
Thanks for the advice. Will keep maxell plastic on. Wish they could deliver it faster. Will take a month
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Just got one of these from eBay for £42. Seems to charge fine with the N4 the S line TPC case on.
My only, albeit minor, issue with it is the bright blue LED which illuminates while charging. This is easily resolved by making sure the N4 covers it or stick a bit of dark tape on top.
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I just picked a Maxell Air Voltage charger up from Ebay here in the UK, it is a very nice bit of kit I must say and works great, the only downside is that the charging range isnt too good, I was expecting at least 6mm so that I could charge it whilst it was in my flip case, it wont charge through the flip case and it wont charge through any case that is metal or has a foil liner this of course is fairly obvious.
i am sure some of the thinner plastic half cases and gel cases it will be fine, I think that the Nillkin Fashion Shape Flip Leather Case is also OK with it so I will pick one of those up with it.
I tested the effective range with UK 2 x 1p pieces stacked on top of each other which is 3.0 mm thick in total, so if your case it over 3mm thick then it wont work without taking the phone out of the case, something to think about if you are going to get this charger.
I wouldnt hang on to get the orb charger, thats a long way off IMHO, the Maxell air voltage is a great unit, is cheap and will work with other QI devices, well worth getting it.
Sounds good so far. I've ordered mine off Amazon after hesitating because of the price.. Taking ages to arrive during this holiday season. Looking forward to it.
Had mine for around 2 weeks now, works perfectly with my tpu case on.
Did originally have daydream turned on and it was a little slow but now its off it charges great.
Well worth the money. If they were a little cheaper i'd buy another!
hi,
does it use 110 or 220 voltage?
I also have the Maxell charger of Ebay and it charges through the Nillkin hard case with no issues at all which was a deal breaker for me if it couldn't.
I agree with the comment to leave Daydream off as it seems to charge the phone better..
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Just got mine. It got up to 98%, does yours get to 100%?
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Mine gets up to 100% although not the first time that I charged it for some reason...
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ianm said:
Just got one of these from eBay for £42. Seems to charge fine with the N4 the S line TPC case on.
My only, albeit minor, issue with it is the bright blue LED which illuminates while charging. This is easily resolved by making sure the N4 covers it or stick a bit of dark tape on top.
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Cheers mate, I was a bit worried about charging through my S-Line case. I've just ordered one from play. I have a desktop stand, but sometimes the connection doesn't fit in properly.
Got my nillkin case for my n4 which is superb and can confirm the Maxwell does charge through it as the other poster mentioned so it isn't a one off, if the case was a little thicker it won't do it though so be warned
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Just got mine. It got up to 98%, does yours get to 100%?
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Mine is getting stuck at 89%. Then it goes in to a state of limbo where it disconnects, uses up a bit of charge, reconnects, gets back to 89% disconnects, etc etc.
Anyone else? Defective unit?
Also, has anyone else suffered severe battery life deterioration after using this? It may well just be coincidence but about 3 days after first using it my battery life has fallen off a cliff. The Android Kernal OS is suddenly showing up at over 30% usage on the stock battery data page, whereas before it was under 10%.
Working fine with mine no problems. But I find when it charges to 100% it waits until it drops to 95% before recharging again. This is fine as I understand that qi charging doesn't allow for trickle charging, so it's either full power or no power. I wouldn't say it degrades the battery life but rather it screws up the battery stats. To fix this I just plug the usb charger once a week or so.
I think the capacity reading gets messed a bit as due to the on/off charging after reaching full charge, since unlike trickle charging where the battery's voltage is kept constant, the voltage is always raising or falling. Depending on when you take your phone away with you in relation to its current charge state you might get a slightly lower capacity for that particular charge.
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Working fine with mine no problems. But I find when it charges to 100% it waits until it drops to 95% before recharging again. This is fine as I understand that qi charging doesn't allow for trickle charging, so it's either full power or no power. I wouldn't say it degrades the battery life but rather it screws up the battery stats. To fix this I just plug the usb charger once a week or so.
I think the capacity reading gets messed a bit as due to the on/off charging after reaching full charge, since unlike trickle charging where the battery's voltage is kept constant, the voltage is always raising or falling. Depending on when you take your phone away with you in relation to its current charge state you might get a slightly lower capacity for that particular charge.
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What im going to do to solve this is buy a electricity temporizator and set it to 3 h so it stops once those hours are done. I always charge mobile at the same hour.
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Makaijin said:
Working fine with mine no problems. But I find when it charges to 100% it waits until it drops to 95% before recharging again. This is fine as I understand that qi charging doesn't allow for trickle charging, so it's either full power or no power. I wouldn't say it degrades the battery life but rather it screws up the battery stats. To fix this I just plug the usb charger once a week or so.
I think the capacity reading gets messed a bit as due to the on/off charging after reaching full charge, since unlike trickle charging where the battery's voltage is kept constant, the voltage is always raising or falling. Depending on when you take your phone away with you in relation to its current charge state you might get a slightly lower capacity for that particular charge.
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Trickle charging is horrible for lithium ion/poly batteries. Unplug from AC charger as soon as you can. LiOn batteries don't like to be at full peak 4.2v for long. It's actually better that many of these Qi chargers are only charging to 89 or 95% of capacity by the wireless charges. It's better for the long life of the battery. Charge them often too. Don't let it go down to 10% or 5%. Put them on the charger when your phone is down to 50% and take them off the charger when they get to 90%. It's easy to do with a wireless charger.
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Trickle charging is horrible for lithium ion/poly batteries. Unplug from AC charger as soon as you can. LiOn batteries don't like to be at full peak 4.2v for long. It's actually better that many of these Qi chargers are only charging to 89 or 95% of capacity by the wireless charges. It's better for the long life of the battery. Charge them often too. Don't let it go down to 10% or 5%. Put them on the charger when your phone is down to 50% and take them off the charger when they get to 90%. It's easy to do with a wireless charger.
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Source.
Cuz all that contradicts lithium theory.
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Source.
Cuz all that contradicts lithium theory.
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Lakino said:
Trickle charging is horrible for lithium ion/poly batteries. Unplug from AC charger as soon as you can. LiOn batteries don't like to be at full peak 4.2v for long. It's actually better that many of these Qi chargers are only charging to 89 or 95% of capacity by the wireless charges. It's better for the long life of the battery. Charge them often too. Don't let it go down to 10% or 5%. Put them on the charger when your phone is down to 50% and take them off the charger when they get to 90%. It's easy to do with a wireless charger.
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I'm actually aware that constant trickle charging at full charge isn't ideal for long term health of the battery. Which is why I mentioned I only plug the wired usb charger once a week. I only plug it in for about 30 mins so the voltage stabilises as to help the phone more accurately display its charge % state better. Obviously it's all subjective as I've yet to actually perform any tests to see if it's ture or not.
On the subject of long term battery health, trickle charging on wired may not be ideal, but nor is wireless charging due to heat it produces. During wireless charging, according to my battery stats widget the phone reaches 39°C, while wired usb it never goes above 22°C (room temp. basically). The good thing about wireless charging is the heat drops back down when the battery is full and the qi charger is no longer sending any current. But when the charge drops back down to 95 % it restarts charging again, and the heat returns.
So, which is more harmful to the battery, heat or constant trickle charging? In either cases it's still a good practice to remove the phone from the charger (both wired or wireless) once it's reached full charge.
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This is a continuation of the discussion that was started here. Since I do not want to crowd that thread with an offtopic subject, I am continuing here. I am quoting the relevant posts from that thread also.
unni_kmr said:
One issue bothers me a lot. I cannot use the phone for navigation for more than 2 hours even with car charger connected. In about 2 hours, it drains out fully. My latest theory is that after about 30 mins of charging, the battery starts heating up, and so it stops charging.
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mtdew said:
User error or bad unit I have zero issues with my GPS or car charging. Also what amperage is your car charger capable of outputting.
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I am not 100% sure in terms of the amperage. But I tried with a car charger capable of charging a laptop, using the wall charger and cable which came with the phone. I was sitting in the passenger seat, phone was in my lap (not mounted in windshield) and Google Maps was running in navigation mode. For the first 15 minutes or so, I saw that the phone was charging. The charge level increased by 1% or 2%. After I think 20 minutes, it stopped charging. CPU-Z app was showing battery status as
health: over heated or heated (don't remember clearly the text)
power source: connected
status: not charging or discharing
Phone's back was very hot. I unplugged the USB cable and connected it back, and it started charging again! I waited for it to cool down, removed the phone case, repeated this and got the same result.
This is why I believe the phone is doing something to protect it from over heating. I am not sure though.
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Amperage is important son too little it will discharge, I think it will limit if too much. Nav can cause some heat for some of these guys but I've never heard of it getting that high my guess is something was wrong.
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I have gotten my last few chargers at Sam's Club, they are about $10, and are rated at [email protected]
In an older phone I had a similar issue where my phone would overheat and not charge properly, once I got a new charger I cut the end off the old one and read the voltage with a meter, it was putting out almost 7.1v (should be 4.75-5.25vDC for USB 1.0-2.0 standard, and 5.25-5.75vDC for USB 3.0), pretty sure that is what caused it... cheap components equals cheap quality and flaws. Current rating should be irrelevant, as long as it meets the devices minimum requirements (most modern phones are [email protected]), even if a charger is rated at 2, 3, or even 5 amps, the device should not draw more than it can handle. Current is drawn, not pushed, a device will draw the needed current at the expected voltage, you can't really "over-current" a device by using a power source that is rated at the proper voltage but a higher current. Similar instance can occur by using a charger that has too low of a current rating, the device will try to draw more current than the adapter is rated at and the adapter will eventually fail or fall out of specifications.
Some other good chargers are by Anker, PowerGen, or RAVPower, and of course a Samsung branded adapter will work well, most all of these can be purchased for $8-$15 on Amazon. If the adapter is not rated with a current rating, then skip it, it is probably only 600ma-750ma and will be more headache than it's worth in the long run.
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Good to see that we're getting a new user who actually does their homework. :thumbup:
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technoid1964 said:
The Skyrocket (and several other Samsung phones) need special "type 2" chargers. Apple charges are type 6, so if it says compatible with Apple, don't use it as it may not work. If the two center pins on the USB port doesn't have a 50 ohm resistor across them (or not shorted) , the Skyrocket will only draw 350 mA. Samsung and older Curve BlackBerry chargers have the resistor. At 350 mA, the phone draws more than the charger is providing, and the charger circuitry heats up trying to keep up with demand.
Jrockttu has a great thread under General called "Fix your Skyrockets battery life"
I've MOD'd all of my chargers, now my phone is happy with the screen on all day while driving and it stays charged, or charges slowly...
Tim
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To eliminate the possibilities mentioned above, I bought the following:
1. Car Charger: PowerGen Black 3.6Amps / 18W Dual USB Car charger
2. USB Cable: Mediabridge USB Charging Cable
I also installed this app (Skyrocket Charger Info).
Summary of what happened:
With new car charger: Fast Charge (A/C) - Charging at 898 ma
With old car charger: Charger Wakelock - Charging at 497 ma
When connected to mains using factory charger: Fast Charge (A/C) - Charging at 898 ma
When connected to PC USB port: Slow Charge (USB) - Charging at 497 ma
Even with this new charger, phone stops charging once it heats up.
The full story:
Once I plugged in the phone to the new car charger using the new USB cable, the app showed the charging current as "Fast Charge - Charging at 898 ma". This is the same mA value it shows when I plugin into the mains with the phone's factory charger. I drove around with maps for around 15 minutes. Once I stopped, I saw that charge level had dropped by around 9%. I immediately launched CPU-Z app. It was showing battery overheated & not charging (see attachment 1). The phone was hot.
I removed the charger. After I think 1 minute, the battery status became 'good'. I plugged in the charger again. It started charging. While I was looking at the CPU-Z screen, battery status changed from 'good' to 'overheated' and 'charging' to 'not charging'.
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(Please note that these screenshots are from another test where I had driven for around 30 minutes, and is not based on the above story.)
1. Phone state once I stopped the car. Charger is connected, but phone is not charging. Note that ignition is on.
2. After removing the charger.
3. After connecting the charger again. Within a few seconds of taking this screenshot, it changed to what is shown in attachment 1.
So I guess I can't do much about this, right?
I can't remember if you replaced the battery or not.... That could also be any issue if it's getting old and can't absorb the charge as fast as it used to... It will heat up quicker.
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How old is your battery? And how many times a day do you plug it in?
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I can't remember if you replaced the battery or not.... That could also be any issue if it's getting old and can't absorb the charge as fast as it used to... It will heat up quicker.
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I will try to purchase a new battery if its not too costly.
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How old is your battery? And how many times a day do you plug it in?
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My phone and battery are now 18 months old. When I am in office, I charge it twice. It doesn't drain much, but I keep it fully charged just before leaving office.
Phone can overheat when under direct sunlight with GPS, screen and CPU working (the most power-consuming activity on the phone happens to be navigation), and also charging. Nothing unusual in that - its internal temperature in this case can reach beyond 100 degrees C. The battery can't charge when above 60-70 degrees C, because it can get physically damaged or even explode.
Concealing the phone from direct sunlight might work.
Limiting the CPU frequency might work.
A new battery might work.
So I figured a wireless charger will prevent my otterbox from stretching out and all. What ive found to be a pain in the ass compared to all videos ive seen. Every one people just throw the phone on top. Comes on charging. My phone complains for me to center the circle on the screen with the dot in the center of my QI charger.
Anybody else notice this? Or is the droid maxx just a pain in the ass to wireless charge?
I think it's a good idea. This is the reason I bought the Palm Pre
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good idea :good:
Good to imagine that with one wireless charger at home, all you phones and tablets get charged automatically.
Good idea :thumbup:
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I dont like wireless charging too much. Jt wasts energy and isn't much "stylier" than charging it in a dock.
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Its nice but I prefer to charge via wire my s4 stock charger charges at 2 amps a second where as the wireless charger only charges at around .5 amps so instead of taking around 2 hours to charge it would take around 5 hours .
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clapper66 said:
Its nice but I prefer to charge via wire my s4 stock charger charges at 2 amps a second where as the wireless charger only charges at around .5 amps so instead of taking around 2 hours to charge it would take around 5 hours .
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Hi, I think there are a couple of technical specs being quoted.
. . . my s4 stock charger charges at 2 amps a second . . .
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I think you meant the charger rating is 2 amps. Battery has a rating of amp/hr, but not chargers. They are only rated at amps. E.g., if a battery is rated at 60 amp/hr, and it is flat, to fully-charge using a 2 amp charger it will take about 30 hrs (30 * 2 = 60). That's only theoretical because other factors take into play: the condition of the electrolyte, the physical condition of the battery, the performance of the charger, ambient temperature and humidity, etc.
. . . the wireless charger only charges at around .5 amps so instead of taking around 2 hours to charge it would take around 5 hours. . .
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If charging at 2 amps take 2 hours, then charging at 0.5 amps will take 8 hrs (2.0 / 0.5 * 2 = 8)
In the above examples, I am assuming that the battery and charger Voltage rating is the same.
Just clarifying.
I want a spot in my car where you set your phone and it wirelessly charges while playing your music via bluetooth and doing calls/texts via bluetooth and voice. Set your phone there when you get in the car and it is fully powered, charging, and ties into everything. It needs some mechanism to keep the phone there (some sort of clamp?) and be positioned well for GPS usage.
Wireless charging will be awesome once there is a standard and it starts getting built into things like that.
Good:thumbup:
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I'm scared about electromagnetic wawes, 3G and Wi-Fi already hurts, but the idea is good.
thats a good idea
seems to be a good idea so far i like it
bad idea
That's the one thing I wish my phone had. Want this feature very bad.
Not to even mention for the no wear and tear on the Charging Port which can be a weakness.
wireless charging
which devices supports wireless charging
It charges my phone slowly.
Stock charger takes 2.5 hours and wireless chargers takes 3-4 hrs to charge full.
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As much as i think it would be convenient, i still use my phone a lot when is charging, that's something you can't do with a pad
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I'm scared about electromagnetic wawes, 3G and Wi-Fi already hurts, but the idea is good.
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Think of it as a transformer with the primary and secondary coils not firmly attached to each other. It's no more dangerous than any AC adapter. Of course, if they decided to make these chargers to work at a distance, there might be some risk. (shades of Tesla!)
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I'm scared about electromagnetic wawes, 3G and Wi-Fi already hurts, but the idea is good.
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I totally agree, there should be thorough study on the electromagnetic waves not affecting the memory cards and the volatile storage inside the phone... might result in data loss?
Hi Guys,
I have a nexus 5 and I noticed that my LG WCP-300 continue to charge even when the battery is full.
The charger works fine with my Nexus 4, it stops charging when the battery reaches 100% capacity but not with the N5.
I'm wondering will it affect the battery if I keep it on even tho the device says "Charged" ?
Thanks in advance
Interesting. My Nexus 5 just arrived and I'll be curious to see how my LG WCP-700 charger handles charging the Nexus 5 when i get off work.
r0b1n86 said:
Hi Guys,
I have a nexus 5 and I noticed that my LG WCP-300 continue to charge even when the battery is full.
The charger works fine with my Nexus 4, it stops charging when the battery reaches 100% capacity but not with the N5.
I'm wondering will it affect the battery if I keep it on even tho the device says "Charged" ?
Thanks in advance
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I think they finally fixed the wireless charging. My N4 would stop then drain down then start charging again. I never knew if it would be fully charged when I took it off the charger in the morning. I'm certain the battery will not overcharge.
Off topic, what is the use of wireless charging other than not using a wire to charge ?
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Off topic, what is the use of wireless charging other than not using a wire to charge ?
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That is pretty much it, it just save you plugging the wire.
allyrocky said:
Off topic, what is the use of wireless charging other than not using a wire to charge ?
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Apart from the convenience of just putting down your phone to charge it will save your USB port from damage so if you need to fastboot for repair / warranty / general flashing you know it will be in good condition if the time comes. My galaxy nexus USB port broke, plugged in the charger and noticed it wasn't charging after a while and plugged the plug to see smoke come out the port and the phone was very hot! It may have caught fire if left. So now that phone has a dead battery, luckily its removable so could be charged separately with out the phone. The screen would turn on and drain battery too. I'd fully recommend getting one if you can, I intend on getting one in the future.
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I aslo have the WCP-300 with my Nexus 5. I am experiencing the same thing.
I wonder why they changed the charging. I know my Energizer Qi charger also does this because the charging light always stays lit blue.
Wireless charging on Energizer
I have the energizer charging pad and noticed the same. My Nexus 4 would stop charging and if it fell back to 98% would charge again. The Nexus 5 just stays charging at 100% and I have read that it can damage the battery overcharging like that. Can someone confirm that for sure?
nothing on this?
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r0b1n86 said:
Hi Guys,
I have a nexus 5 and I noticed that my LG WCP-300 continue to charge even when the battery is full.
The charger works fine with my Nexus 4, it stops charging when the battery reaches 100% capacity but not with the N5.
I'm wondering will it affect the battery if I keep it on even tho the device says "Charged" ?
Thanks in advance
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Just for the sake of clarification. The same thing occurs with the Nexus 5 using the Panasonic QE-TM101 which (as above) worked flawlessly with the Nexus 4. So it appears to be the phone (not the charger). And in spite of people assuring us that this won't damage the phone (battery), I can't help but think that the heat can't be good for the battery and if it wasn't "actually" charging after it hit that 100%, then what's generating the heat (it has to be actively charging to create that heat). I plan to do some controlled tests to see if the same problem occurs with my OWL (Qi compatible but not Qi certified) chargers, and see if the charger is cycling on and off during the charge period or staying in charge mode. But every time I've awoke in the morning the Panasonic charger has actually been charging (charge light on) with the handset very warm.
I'm afraid that if it's not cycling then over the long haul the battery (or possibly the phone) may suffer ill effects due to the consistent heat.
I just got myself a Nokia DT-900 Wireless charger (Got it at a clearance at the Nokia store) for use with my Nexus 5 and my Nexus 7.
I charged the nexus 5 with it now. While it charges perfectly, even with a case on, the back of the phone gets a little warm. Not hot, just warm. I was wondering if this is any cause for concern, or if this is normal. Have not tried with my nexus 7 though.
Does the nexus 5/7 work perfectly with the Nokia wireless charger, or is it Incompatibility that is causing the phone to warm up a little?
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I just got myself a Nokia DT-900 Wireless charger (Got it at a clearance at the Nokia store) for use with my Nexus 5 and my Nexus 7.
I charged the nexus 5 with it now. While it charges perfectly, even with a case on, the back of the phone gets a little warm. Not hot, just warm. I was wondering if this is any cause for concern, or if this is normal. Have not tried with my nexus 7 though.
Does the nexus 5/7 work perfectly with the Nokia wireless charger, or is it Incompatibility that is causing the phone to warm up a little?
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I noticed the same thing with a LG Qi charger. This is my first wireless charger and I believe that it's normal.
Primokorn said:
I noticed the same thing with a LG Qi charger. This is my first wireless charger and I believe that it's normal.
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If the same thing happens with the Official LG Nexus charger, then it must be normal. Thanks!
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If the same thing happens with the Official LG Nexus charger, then it must be normal. Thanks!
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It's actually this one: http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-WCP-300-Wireless-Charging/dp/B00C6VP03I
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It's actually this one: http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-WCP-300-Wireless-Charging/dp/B00C6VP03I
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As it's an LG, I doubt it's any different from the Nexus one. Both have the same specs. Have emailed Google regarding this, their reply was the standard 'We do not recommend using Non-Nexus chargers for Nexus devices'. I told them all QI chargers were actually supposed to work, and am awaiting their reply. Will follow up on this.
i get worried with how wireless charging heats up my phone, so i try to avoid it
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i get worried with how wireless charging heats up my phone, so i try to avoid it
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I bought a QI wireless charger when I purchased the phone based on excellent reviews on Amazon. I've since stopped using it just because of random overheating and generally the phone was warmer than when charging via USB. It was a feeling that overtime my phone would suffer.
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3DSammy said:
I bought a QI wireless charger when I purchased the phone based on excellent reviews on Amazon. I've since stopped using it just because of random overheating and generally the phone was warmer than when charging via USB. It was a feeling that overtime my phone would suffer.
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my thoughts exactly
Wireless charging, by its very nature, generates a small amount of heat. It is perfectly normal for your phone to get a bit warm whenever you're charging via any means, but especially when wireless charging. The key is the phrase "a bit warm." It should never be hot to the touch, just warm. The phone was designed to handle this, and there will be no adverse effects. In fact, the heat generated is much less than is generated by the CPU during heavy use (such as during a graphic intensive game).
I regularly use my phone with the official nexus charger (in my car), the Nokia DT-910 (the stand-up version of the DT-900 -- my main overnight charger), and the Samsung S-Charger Pad (at work). All are perfectly compatible with the N5. In fact, the only name-brand charger I'd steer clear of is the Tylt Vu, because there have been numerous incidents of overheating with that charger (i.e., the phone gets very hot to the touch).
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I bought a QI wireless charger when I purchased the phone based on excellent reviews on Amazon. I've since stopped using it just because of random overheating and generally the phone was warmer than when charging via USB. It was a feeling that overtime my phone would suffer.
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Sent google a screenshot of my Battery info and temp while it was at max temp, they said there are no issues with it
jt3 said:
Wireless charging, by its very nature, generates a small amount of heat. It is perfectly normal for your phone to get a bit warm whenever you're charging via any means, but especially when wireless charging. The key is the phrase "a bit warm." It should never be hot to the touch, just warm.
I regularly use my phone with the official nexus charger (in my car), the Nokia DT-910 (the stand-up version of the DT-900, and my main overnight charger), and the Samsung S-Charger Pad (at work). All are perfectly compatible with the N5. In fact, the only name-brand charger I'd steer clear of is the Tylt Vu, because there have been numerous incidents of overheating with that charger (i.e., the phone gets very hot to the touch).
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Yep, I read online that the Tylt Vu has some issues.
I spoke to Google about the Nokia charger, and they said the temp of the phone is normal. They did warn me that the Nokia does not cut charging automatically when it gets to 100%, and that I should Take it off manually
Using a case increases the distance between the phone and coil which can cause the phone to heat up even more. Even wired charging heats the battery so some extra warmth from the 25% lost energy seems normal.
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bblzd said:
Using a case increases the distance between the phone and coil which can cause the phone to heat up even more. Even wired charging heats the battery so some extra warmth from the 25% lost energy seems normal.
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Okay, Maybe I should remove the case and try charging it
jt3 said:
Wireless charging, by its very nature, generates a small amount of heat. It is perfectly normal for your phone to get a bit warm whenever you're charging via any means, but especially when wireless charging. The key is the phrase "a bit warm." It should never be hot to the touch, just warm. The phone was designed to handle this, and there will be no adverse effects. In fact, the heat generated is much less than is generated by the CPU during heavy use (such as during a graphic intensive game).
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Lots of people who use wireless chargers say this but I am still skeptical. I would like to see battery capacity tests from two of the same devices. One that was only charged with wireless charging and the other only charged via USB.
My money says the wireless charged device will have significantly less battery capacity than the usb charged device after 1-2 years of use.
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Lots of people who use wireless chargers say this but I am still skeptical. I would like to see battery capacity tests from two of the same devices. One that was only charged with wireless charging and the other only charged via USB.
My money says the wireless charged device will have significantly less battery capacity than the usb charged device after 1-2 years of use.
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Yes, But seeing as most of us use the phone for only 1-2 years, I personally don't see a difference. Maybe the battery will lose capacity over time, but that's going to happen anyway. This will maybe speed up the process by about 20%.
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My money says the wireless charged device will have significantly less battery capacity than the usb charged device after 1-2 years of use.
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That may be true, but that argument lies on shaky ground, since there are a lot of other ways you can (theoretically) reduce battery life as well. In theory, not allowing the battery to drain completely during each charge cycle, or not removing the phone from the charger the instant it's fully charged can reduce battery life, yet nobody charges their phone that way. There's also the counter-argument that plugging the charging cable in every single day can prematurely wear out, or break, the (very fragile) USB connector on the phone, which would result in the inability to charge at all. (I went through SOOO many Galaxy Nexuses... Nexes? Nexii? Whatever... because of that issue.)
The point is that sometimes, convenience takes priority over the possibility of slightly reduced battery life, and it's hard to argue against the convenience of wireless charging.
Plus, as Srivas95 stated, most of us will move on to the next device long before any such battery degradation becomes an issue.
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That may be true, but that argument lies on shaky ground, since there are a lot of other ways you can (theoretically) reduce battery life as well. In theory, not allowing the battery to drain completely during each charge cycle, or not removing the phone from the charger the instant it's fully charged can reduce battery life, yet nobody charges their phone that way. There's also the counter-argument that plugging the charging cable in every single day can prematurely wear out, or break, the (very fragile) USB connector on the phone, which would result in the inability to charge at all. (I went through SOOO many Galaxy Nexuses... Nexes? Nexii? Whatever... because of that issue.)
The point is that sometimes, convenience takes priority over the possibility of slightly reduced battery life, and it's hard to argue against the convenience of wireless charging.
Plus, as Srivas95 stated, most of us will move on to the next device long before any such battery degradation becomes an issue.
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which is fine. i just plan on using my N5 longer than a couple years and will do what i can to keep it as healthy as possible
Enddo said:
which is fine. i just plan on using my N5 longer than a couple years and will do what i can to keep it as healthy as possible
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Whatever works for you man. To each his own
joneytatya said:
Have you been using the official nexus charger? Mine used to heat the phone earlier before I bought this one from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Wireless-Charger-Smartphones-Tablets/dp/B00GN1YKBU
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I tried with my friend's Official Nexus Charger, Phone still got a little warm. It's okay though, Now that Google have confirmed it with me. No issues
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That may be true, but that argument lies on shaky ground, since there are a lot of other ways you can (theoretically) reduce battery life as well. In theory, not allowing the battery to drain completely during each charge cycle, or not removing the phone from the charger the instant it's fully charged can reduce battery life, yet nobody charges their phone that way. There's also the counter-argument that plugging the charging cable in every single day can prematurely wear out, or break, the (very fragile) USB connector on the phone, which would result in the inability to charge at all. (I went through SOOO many Galaxy Nexuses... Nexes? Nexii? Whatever... because of that issue.)
The point is that sometimes, convenience takes priority over the possibility of slightly reduced battery life, and it's hard to argue against the convenience of wireless charging.
Plus, as Srivas95 stated, most of us will move on to the next device long before any such battery degradation becomes an issue.
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What you say is right, my Nexus 5 has been with me for just 4 months and I can already see that the jack is kind of loose. That is one of the reasons I got a wireless charger in the first place.
I'm thinking out of picking up the Incipio battery mod. I normally plug in with about 30% left but after my research on prolonging battery life, I'm realizing the battery mod might actually extend the life of the Z Force battery.
Any ways, the point/question is: do you leave the mod always attached and charge it at night (or when you need to)? Or do you only attach the mod when your battery hits a certain percentage?
So far I only lose about 20% during a day. I know that's not much but I'm connected to a 4g network extender so I don't search for a signal.
To answer your question the first day I had the battery mod I set it in efficiency mode and just slapped it on. That sets the mod battery to kick in when the phi e battery hits 80%. It worked like a charm. At the end of the day my mod was at 70%.
I only used it the first day and since then it's just been sitting there charged. But I try to not let my battery fall below 70-80%.
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I leave my tumi battery mod connected all of the time.
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Hopefully you will find my experience with the TUMI Wireless charging mod relevant, as I don't have experience with the incipio. I leave the TUMI on at all times. When I plug in before bed the TUMI stays attached and charges along with the phone. When I unplug and both the mod and phone are at 100%, the phone discharges until 80% when the TUMI kicks in automatically and keeps the phone charged at 80% until the TUMI hits 0% at which point the phone begins discharging from 80%. I've had this for a couple weeks now and my phone's battery level now occupies 0% of my thoughts throughout the day. It's like being back to the days of the flip phones that ran for 2 or 3 days before needing a charge (... at least that's a safe assumption, as I have no reason to not plug in before bed thus I've never tried to see how many days I can get). I leave every possible background process on, I have 4 or 5 widgets, wifi, Bluetooth, mobile data, high accuracy location mode, Nfc... all those are left on 100% of the time.
The one thing I will say is that the battery mod does add significant weight... but not size (I actually find it easier to hold with the mod attached). For me the extra weight is, comparatively, a very small price to pay for the above benefits.
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For the record, the Tumi, Kate Spade, and Incipio should all behave identically...as they are all made by Incipio...the only differences between the 3 are looks...and price
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edneum2 said:
Hopefully you will find my experience with the TUMI Wireless charging mod relevant, as I don't have experience with the incipio. I leave the TUMI on at all times. When I plug in before bed the TUMI stays attached and charges along with the phone. When I unplug and both the mod and phone are at 100%, the phone discharges until 80% when the TUMI kicks in automatically and keeps the phone charged at 80% until the TUMI hits 0% at which point the phone begins discharging from 80%. I've had this for a couple weeks now and my phone's battery level now occupies 0% of my thoughts throughout the day. It's like being back to the days of the flip phones that ran for 2 or 3 days before needing a charge (... at least that's a safe assumption, as I have no reason to not plug in before bed thus I've never tried to see how many days I can get). I leave every possible background process on, I have 4 or 5 widgets, wifi, Bluetooth, mobile data, high accuracy location mode, Nfc... all those are left on 100% of the time.
The one thing I will say is that the battery mod does add significant weight... but not size (I actually find it easier to hold with the mod attached). For me the extra weight is, comparatively, a very small price to pay for the above benefits.
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This.
I want to be able to use my phone as it was meant to be used without thinking about battery life later in the day.
Note that only the non-wireless model charges the mod through the phone when the phone is plugged in via wire...
The wireless charging capable Tumi mod only charges via wireless. It will NOT charge through the phone.
Obviously when wireless charging it will charge both the mod and phone. When wired charging it only does the phone and not the mod.
However the non-wireless one does charge the mod when charging via wire (I tested it).
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Note that only the non-wireless model charges the mod through the phone when the phone is plugged in via wire...
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Wow seriously? So if I got the Incipio with wireless charging from Best Buy, I wont be able to charge it without buying a wireless charging pad?
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Wow seriously? So if I got the Incipio with wireless charging from Best Buy, I wont be able to charge it without buying a wireless charging pad?
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Not true, I have the Tumi wireless mod: wired & wireless both charge mod & phone.
I have two of both models of Tumi in front of me, and I am 100% sure neither of the wireless models will charge through the phone when it is connected via USB. Not sure why yours is different...
To be clear both of the non-wireless models I have DO charge through the phone when connected via USB...
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I have the incipio wireless charging battery pack, can confirm it does charge when the phone is connected with usb.
I wonder if it matters if the mod is in 'efficiency mode' or not... I didn't think so from previous testing, but I'll check that tomorrow.
Edit: I have been using another usb-c cable/charger, not the 'turbo 30' one that came with the phone... That may be the difference. I'll test tomorrow.
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So I'll have to apologize. I charged one of the phones with the usb charger that came with the phone, and it DID charge both the phone and mod.
So I must have something else going on with my setup at work, as it definitely does NOT there (even after being plugged in for hours) ...
Sorry for the confusion, and misinformation!
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It's been noted that the mods don't charge through the phone on anything but the stock charger or anything that puts out more than 3A @ 5V. That's the minimum requirement for engaging "turbo charging".
I bought my wife the Kate Spade battery pack and it officially died as a result of using a Droid Turbo 1 charger for her nightly charge. The first week or two, it charged just fine throughout the night. Now, however, it won't charge, even on the stock charger (although it will sometimes glitch out and say there is a 97% charge while still not supplying juice to the phone).
I have the Tumi with wireless charging, and I definitely prefer being able to charge it without the phone attached. As for my wife's, Big Red said that they offer a 1 year warranty on accessories, so I'll be able to take the dead one in for an exchange.
Word to the wise: use the stock charger whenever charging your phone with a non-wireless charging model of the battery packs attached. Wireless charging seems to work just fine, every night.
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It's been noted that the mods don't charge through the phone on anything but the stock charger or anything that puts out more than 3A @ 5V. That's the minimum requirement for engaging "turbo charging".
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Actually I get my battery mod to charge using the Verizon branded usb c fast charger. I made sure it worked in a store before I bought it. It does pop up saying turbo charging also. It is not as fast as the Motorola charger. I use Ampere to test them. The Verizon charger is about 2200 and the Motorola one is about 5700. But that and the supplied charger are the only ones that will work to charge the mod. I got screen shots somewhere. I'll try to post them.
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The screen shot with the white background shows the supplied Motorola charger.
The screen shot with the white background is the Verizon branded USB C fast charger.
Hope this helps. I've tried using about 15 different chargers and these were the only 2 that would charge the battery mod. That's not to say there's not other ones out there that will do it. Just sharing what I've found.
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I had the Tumi wireless battery mod. Changed it to the Incipio wireless battery mod. heres what I have found. Both will charge wireless. They will not however charge using any chargers, while connected to phone, without using the supplied charger or the verizon branded usb c fast charger. Both just sit there with any other charger saying waiting to charge.
I spent more time than ill admit to speaking to verizon tech support, motorola tech support, tumi tech support and incipio tech support verifying this.
Yes any charger will charge the phone. but it needed to turbo charge to be able to switch to charging the battery mod. Ive tried about 10 different chargers to test this. QC 2.0 chargers from the turbo chargers wont charge the battery mods.
I use a generic QC 2.0 charger at home, work, and in the car. All three charge the Tumi mod and the phone. Also use a wireless charger plugged into my computer which charges both. I don't think I've even unwrapped the charger that came with the phone.
It is strange how some chargers work and some don't. I have 5 usb-c chargers, 2 work and 3 don't.
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