I've noticed that charging with 500mah charger, charges the battery MUCH slower than a 1000mah (1amp) charger, which charges really fast. I'll need to time it, but I'm thinking the 1000mah charger charges the stock battery in less than 2 hours, where as the 500mah charger takes many hours, I usually let it charge overnight.
My question is, is there any performance gain to slow charging vs fast charging? ie: slow charging giving a deeper charge, vs fast charging?
any opinions?
i use a 2amp charger i had already that fully charges the O3D in around half an hour/45 mins. get the same runtime whether i use that or the stock charger.
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i use a 2amp charger i had already that fully charges the O3D in around half an hour/45 mins. get the same runtime whether i use that or the stock charger.
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Any chance of a link to this charger, I'd really like that sort of charging speed.
Pete
My guess would be anything that would charge an iPad... those require like 2.1amp, so that would be a 2amp usb charger.... I've seen 2.1amp home chargers, car chargers, etc... all because of the ipad I'm guessing.
Its not that simple. Any device that uses USB for charging can only pull 500ma, that's a universal agreement. To get around this each manufacturer uses a method of "informing" their device that it is connected to a charger that can supply more current (HTC shorts the data leads in the supplied charger I don't know what LG does). I have a 1amp car charger but it still only gives 500ma but the genuine LG charger gives an amp because the phone "knows" it can supply more.
I'm going to stick a test meter into my LG chargers over the holidays to see how the data leads are connected.
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The charger i have is a noname brand. I bought it from walmart for 6 quid. It also came with a 2amp car charger and a micro usb cable.
Micro usb cables are not standardised like that. Ive never heard of such a thing at all. As far as i know most phones will "fast charge" if they dont detect a data connection and dump as much current as they can into the battery so you can pretty much present them with whatever current you like and the charge time will just get faster. There is probably a hardware limit to that somewhere in the charge circuit but i dont know what the limit is. 2amps is the highest power usb charger ive seen but its not exactly aomething i regularly keep an eye out for.
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Slow charging is always better as this will allow the optimal number of battery cycles before the battery's capacity will start to degrade.
So if you only ever slow charge then your battery will have a longer life cycle.
Hey Guys,
So I was recently on a trip this weekend and was using Navigation on my Nexus 5 for a 4 hour drive. I had noticed though after a short while that while I had my Nexus 5 plugged into a charger it was still continuing to drain battery.
With my Galaxy Nexus in the past I was able to run Navigation / Music / Etc.. all whilst still charging so it came as a disappointment when I saw this.
I made sure that I was charging on (AC) mode and it still continued to fall, albeit a little slower than (USB) mode though. When I went to the battery usage navigation had taken up about 59% of the battery drain, I was surprised because I though it would have been the screen but that was only like 14% of the battery drain.
Anyone else run into this issue?
Check the Amp output on the charger. Anything less than 1A will not charge the phone while in use.
I had the exact opposite issue with my G-Nex, the "rapid" charger I was using only output 550mAh as opposed to the 1A that is required to charge while in use. I don't believe it is an issue with the phone, it's probably just the charger. $10 to $20 will get you a nice, reliable one with the proper output, and possibly an additional USB port.
Hopefully this helps
Don't buy cheap car chargers, just not enough power. I use a Verizon car charger that has an extra USB port for charging another device and it charges while the device is in use.
Thanks for the input guys, unfortunately the charger was 1 amp that I was using. I do have another car charger that I use and none of them are the cheap USB ones. I guess I'll have to do some more testing with the other car charger that I have.
I was just mainly concerned, not if there was something wrong with the phone, but with the fact that even when charging in AC it wouldn't keep up with navigation's wear on the battery usage.
Thought I would update to confirm that my Galaxy Nexus car dock charger charged it extremely well after testing while navigating.
Definitely was the other one I was using.
When you switched chargers did you happen to also use a different cable? I couldn't get any of three different chargers that I tried to keep up with the GPS battery drain. Then I realized I was using the same cable with all 3 chargers. The problem was that the cable kept the phone in DC charging mode at nothing more than 0.5 amps. I bought this fast charging cable on Amazon and now I actually gain battery percentage even while using my GPS full time.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0088HTYUE/ref=ya_aw_oh_pit
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When you switched chargers did you happen to also use a different cable? I couldn't get any of three different chargers that I tried to keep up with the GPS battery drain. Then I realized I was using the same cable with all 3 chargers. The problem was that the cable kept the phone in DC charging mode at nothing more than 0.5 amps. I bought this fast charging cable on Amazon and now I actually gain battery percentage even while using my GPS full time.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0088HTYUE/ref=ya_aw_oh_pit
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I had exactly the same thing with my old phone and discovered it was the cable not letting more than 380 ma pass through it.
There are apps like this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw that let you monitor mah in and out etc so you can test out different leads and chargers
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As per title, I have a wireless charger now and like most people I imagine, charge the phablet at night.
So the first notification/screen on I can tolerate to tell me it's charging but then there's the charging complete notification/screen on and then to and fro as some juice depletes and it goes back onto charge.
I'm not rooted (bought the phone outright recently and don't want to invalidate warranty).
I am averagely familiar with using Tasker and Trigger and am open to any suggestions to stop me getting woken up by this.
It seems such an obvious Use Case I am amazed Samsung haven't provided an easy way to do wireless charging without these interruptions.
Thanks,
Joe
I haven't noticed any interruption in charging wirelessly. I get the notification that it started, the one for full, and that's it. If I leave it on the pad it just acts like it is plugged in and maintains until I remove it.
Fwiw, I'm using the PThink Ultra thin qi receiver w/nfc and a yipin q300 dual qi charger. Does the same in my powerbot puck, too.
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Lightflow will allow you to override the factory settings for both of these. You can set quiet hours as well.
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I'm starting to wonder if I have a duff charger mat. When it's at full charge the charging notification comes on every two or three seconds. The mat is quite hot to touch and my battery monitor app shows 39 C.
It's a Choe mat so only a cheapie.
Are there any people here using a different charger in order to charge the Z3 a little quicker? As it is, it takes forever to fully charge the battery, especially during the last 5%. I want to try the turbo charger from Motorola but I'm concerned of ruining my battery.
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Are there any people here using a different charger in order to charge the Z3 a little quicker? As it is, it takes forever to fully charge the battery, especially during the last 5%. I want to try the turbo charger from Motorola but I'm concerned of ruining my battery.
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The stock charger is pretty fast for me already. What is ur charger's amperage?
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I use the 2.0A charger that came with my Tab S. It charges reasonably fast. However, if you use the magnetic charging cable, it'll charge the phone faster.
I bought the motorola quick charger. I definitely don't plan on using it all the time. It'll be a travel charger where I might need to add some charge in a pinch.
There's a thread documentind the rate at which different charging methods charge at. I put my Turbo Charger results at the bottom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/xperia-z3-battery-life-recharge-t2916773
I'm thinking out of picking up the Incipio battery mod. I normally plug in with about 30% left but after my research on prolonging battery life, I'm realizing the battery mod might actually extend the life of the Z Force battery.
Any ways, the point/question is: do you leave the mod always attached and charge it at night (or when you need to)? Or do you only attach the mod when your battery hits a certain percentage?
So far I only lose about 20% during a day. I know that's not much but I'm connected to a 4g network extender so I don't search for a signal.
To answer your question the first day I had the battery mod I set it in efficiency mode and just slapped it on. That sets the mod battery to kick in when the phi e battery hits 80%. It worked like a charm. At the end of the day my mod was at 70%.
I only used it the first day and since then it's just been sitting there charged. But I try to not let my battery fall below 70-80%.
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I leave my tumi battery mod connected all of the time.
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Hopefully you will find my experience with the TUMI Wireless charging mod relevant, as I don't have experience with the incipio. I leave the TUMI on at all times. When I plug in before bed the TUMI stays attached and charges along with the phone. When I unplug and both the mod and phone are at 100%, the phone discharges until 80% when the TUMI kicks in automatically and keeps the phone charged at 80% until the TUMI hits 0% at which point the phone begins discharging from 80%. I've had this for a couple weeks now and my phone's battery level now occupies 0% of my thoughts throughout the day. It's like being back to the days of the flip phones that ran for 2 or 3 days before needing a charge (... at least that's a safe assumption, as I have no reason to not plug in before bed thus I've never tried to see how many days I can get). I leave every possible background process on, I have 4 or 5 widgets, wifi, Bluetooth, mobile data, high accuracy location mode, Nfc... all those are left on 100% of the time.
The one thing I will say is that the battery mod does add significant weight... but not size (I actually find it easier to hold with the mod attached). For me the extra weight is, comparatively, a very small price to pay for the above benefits.
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For the record, the Tumi, Kate Spade, and Incipio should all behave identically...as they are all made by Incipio...the only differences between the 3 are looks...and price
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Hopefully you will find my experience with the TUMI Wireless charging mod relevant, as I don't have experience with the incipio. I leave the TUMI on at all times. When I plug in before bed the TUMI stays attached and charges along with the phone. When I unplug and both the mod and phone are at 100%, the phone discharges until 80% when the TUMI kicks in automatically and keeps the phone charged at 80% until the TUMI hits 0% at which point the phone begins discharging from 80%. I've had this for a couple weeks now and my phone's battery level now occupies 0% of my thoughts throughout the day. It's like being back to the days of the flip phones that ran for 2 or 3 days before needing a charge (... at least that's a safe assumption, as I have no reason to not plug in before bed thus I've never tried to see how many days I can get). I leave every possible background process on, I have 4 or 5 widgets, wifi, Bluetooth, mobile data, high accuracy location mode, Nfc... all those are left on 100% of the time.
The one thing I will say is that the battery mod does add significant weight... but not size (I actually find it easier to hold with the mod attached). For me the extra weight is, comparatively, a very small price to pay for the above benefits.
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This.
I want to be able to use my phone as it was meant to be used without thinking about battery life later in the day.
Note that only the non-wireless model charges the mod through the phone when the phone is plugged in via wire...
The wireless charging capable Tumi mod only charges via wireless. It will NOT charge through the phone.
Obviously when wireless charging it will charge both the mod and phone. When wired charging it only does the phone and not the mod.
However the non-wireless one does charge the mod when charging via wire (I tested it).
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Note that only the non-wireless model charges the mod through the phone when the phone is plugged in via wire...
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Wow seriously? So if I got the Incipio with wireless charging from Best Buy, I wont be able to charge it without buying a wireless charging pad?
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Wow seriously? So if I got the Incipio with wireless charging from Best Buy, I wont be able to charge it without buying a wireless charging pad?
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Not true, I have the Tumi wireless mod: wired & wireless both charge mod & phone.
I have two of both models of Tumi in front of me, and I am 100% sure neither of the wireless models will charge through the phone when it is connected via USB. Not sure why yours is different...
To be clear both of the non-wireless models I have DO charge through the phone when connected via USB...
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I have the incipio wireless charging battery pack, can confirm it does charge when the phone is connected with usb.
I wonder if it matters if the mod is in 'efficiency mode' or not... I didn't think so from previous testing, but I'll check that tomorrow.
Edit: I have been using another usb-c cable/charger, not the 'turbo 30' one that came with the phone... That may be the difference. I'll test tomorrow.
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So I'll have to apologize. I charged one of the phones with the usb charger that came with the phone, and it DID charge both the phone and mod.
So I must have something else going on with my setup at work, as it definitely does NOT there (even after being plugged in for hours) ...
Sorry for the confusion, and misinformation!
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It's been noted that the mods don't charge through the phone on anything but the stock charger or anything that puts out more than 3A @ 5V. That's the minimum requirement for engaging "turbo charging".
I bought my wife the Kate Spade battery pack and it officially died as a result of using a Droid Turbo 1 charger for her nightly charge. The first week or two, it charged just fine throughout the night. Now, however, it won't charge, even on the stock charger (although it will sometimes glitch out and say there is a 97% charge while still not supplying juice to the phone).
I have the Tumi with wireless charging, and I definitely prefer being able to charge it without the phone attached. As for my wife's, Big Red said that they offer a 1 year warranty on accessories, so I'll be able to take the dead one in for an exchange.
Word to the wise: use the stock charger whenever charging your phone with a non-wireless charging model of the battery packs attached. Wireless charging seems to work just fine, every night.
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It's been noted that the mods don't charge through the phone on anything but the stock charger or anything that puts out more than 3A @ 5V. That's the minimum requirement for engaging "turbo charging".
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Actually I get my battery mod to charge using the Verizon branded usb c fast charger. I made sure it worked in a store before I bought it. It does pop up saying turbo charging also. It is not as fast as the Motorola charger. I use Ampere to test them. The Verizon charger is about 2200 and the Motorola one is about 5700. But that and the supplied charger are the only ones that will work to charge the mod. I got screen shots somewhere. I'll try to post them.
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The screen shot with the white background shows the supplied Motorola charger.
The screen shot with the white background is the Verizon branded USB C fast charger.
Hope this helps. I've tried using about 15 different chargers and these were the only 2 that would charge the battery mod. That's not to say there's not other ones out there that will do it. Just sharing what I've found.
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I had the Tumi wireless battery mod. Changed it to the Incipio wireless battery mod. heres what I have found. Both will charge wireless. They will not however charge using any chargers, while connected to phone, without using the supplied charger or the verizon branded usb c fast charger. Both just sit there with any other charger saying waiting to charge.
I spent more time than ill admit to speaking to verizon tech support, motorola tech support, tumi tech support and incipio tech support verifying this.
Yes any charger will charge the phone. but it needed to turbo charge to be able to switch to charging the battery mod. Ive tried about 10 different chargers to test this. QC 2.0 chargers from the turbo chargers wont charge the battery mods.
I use a generic QC 2.0 charger at home, work, and in the car. All three charge the Tumi mod and the phone. Also use a wireless charger plugged into my computer which charges both. I don't think I've even unwrapped the charger that came with the phone.
It is strange how some chargers work and some don't. I have 5 usb-c chargers, 2 work and 3 don't.
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