I was wondering if I could use a Mi4s battery in a Mi4c device. Anyone that does have both can confirm this? Or at least tell me the dimensions of a Mi4s battery and a picture to compare with mine? (I got a mi4c)
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Also if anyone found a bigger capacity battery that fits in mi4c I would like to buy!
Not a good plan, Li-ion in Mi4C, Li-Po in Mi4S... Different technologies that shouldn't really be swapped
In kernel source, actually both 4c and 4s hard coded use Li-Po.
Well, gsmarena states both as Li-Ion, output voltage of the batteries is the same, so I wonder if the plug/connector is the same and/or fits in the Mi4c case. If that is the case I will definitely buy one to use for my Mi4c because from all the tests I see Mi4S batteries last a lot longer than Mi4c for whatever the reason maybe. Maybe Mi4c batteries are lower quality (yes I'm aware that the capacity is smaller, but not small enough for that kind of difference)
I have found some photos of the batteries on Taobao (the biggest Chinese online shopping site)
Mi 4c:
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Judging from these photos, the batteries are shaped slightly differently and the connectors are at different positions. Therefore I do not suggest you use 4s battery on 4c.
Personally, I don't think Mi 4c uses a lower quality battery. It may be just software optimization issues. If you look at GSMarena's test results, while Mi 4s seems to have a much better endurance rating, the two phones are actually very close when it comes to web browsing and video playback.
Software optimization issues in a so similar MIUI ROM? Why wouldn't they implement the fixes in Mi4c also? I see that the battery is actually different. Maybe I'll search for a battery with same shape and type but more mAh
I also believe putting the mi4s battery inside the mi4c wouldn't make much of a difference even if it fitted correctly. I agree with @legacyofthevoid that the mi4c has a very low standby time, gsmarena states that as well and i can confirm on my phone that battery standby is bad, i loose around 3% overnight (sometimes 4) wich is a lot for a 3080mah battery (it shouldn't lose more than 1-2). You can also check what consumes your battery and you can see than android + android system together consume around 21% (mind you, with greenify and amplify installed - it used to consume even more) a rate than shouldn't be, in any usage scenario, more than 10%. So xiaomi is as expected not interested in fixing mi4c's standy power draw.
alexvv said:
I also believe putting the mi4s battery inside the mi4c wouldn't make much of a difference even if it fitted correctly. I agree with @legacyofthevoid that the mi4c has a very low standby time, gsmarena states that as well and i can confirm on my phone that battery standby is bad, i loose around 3% overnight (sometimes 4) wich is a lot for a 3080mah battery (it shouldn't lose more than 1-2). You can also check what consumes your battery and you can see than android + android system together consume around 21% (mind you, with greenify and amplify installed - it used to consume even more) a rate than shouldn't be, in any usage scenario, more than 10%. So xiaomi is as expected not interested in fixing mi4c's standy power draw.
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Android system alone uses around 23% and android around 9%. The others are not significant compared to this. Using latest miui dev rom from miui eu.
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Like this,when you are using a Non-Original battery pack,you will have chance to experience this:
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This problem happened since WM2003,when it happened,you will get 83% as top percent of battery,whatever charging or discharging.
Sometimes it will return 100% after reboot.
Backup or Main battery pack???
Main Battery,I'm collecting data
Yes I've been facing battery issues but nothing ever happened like this. Have you ever try Cotulla's BattClear app? It could work.
I had the same issue and some other similar issues but recently nothing happens. I am using the CHS version too.
Yes,I know many chinese user have experienced this problem......
xiaojin1985 said:
Main Battery,I'm collecting data
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ohh, I don't know, because I still using original battery pack
Can you give me Original Battery Meter???
since we use the same type of battery and as I see we have the same problems with it, what lifetime do you get from it? I get less than 24h. it's the chinese model of dynapack and it is supposed to be 1800mah
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since we use the same type of battery and as I see we have the same problems with it, what lifetime do you get from it? I get less than 24h. it's the chinese model of dynapack and it is supposed to be 1800mah
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Dynapack 1800mAh????
fake battery...
original DynaPack only give 1200mAh...
well it looks just like dynapack,same serial number but it's made in china. i have another 2 batteies an original dynapack made in taiwan and a chinese one that i used for a long time and still it lasts more than 4 days. the problem with the indicator is because the cheap (fake) models don't use the original board but an emulator for it. and so you only get from it a constant 181 mah drain and 26 degrees celsius
shade0723 said:
well it looks just like dynapack,same serial number but it's made in china. i have another 2 batteies an original dynapack made in taiwan and a chinese one that i used for a long time and still it lasts more than 4 days. the problem with the indicator is because the cheap (fake) models don't use the original board but an emulator for it. and so you only get from it a constant 181 mah drain and 26 degrees celsius
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these are my reading from the battery pack
Well,now I know why so many people in China have experienced this problem...
Seems it reported a fake capacity sometimes.
But the Voltage of Battery is true.
Reality 83% power never came with 4.1-4.2 Voltage.
83%*1.21=1.0043
82%*1.21=0.9922
Code:
if((BatteryPercentage<84) && (g_bTmpBatteryVoltage>4000)){
IsBatteryPercentNeedFix=TRUE;
}
if(IsBatteryPercentNeedFix){
BatteryPercentage*=1.21;
if(BatteryPercentage>100) BatteryPercentage=100;
}
Hope this works...
Happened again...
Seems my code worked.
i have a battery that has problems only with the indicator. temp, battery drain and voltage appears to work correctly but for some reason the phone thinks it drains faster than it is. it's kinda annoying since when it reaches to 0 it doesn't shut down but in closes tha main functions including the phone and camera. after a reset it shows the correct percentage but agains it drains to 0 in a short time. battery life is normal (3-4 days). Is there a way to override the battery app to somehow fix this ?
Hmm...
Yes, sometime I feel it too.
But, i don't know why, nowadays the trouble seems away.
it would be great if somehow we could patch the original battery app to return the percentage depending on the voltage and we could set the lower and upper values in mV to represent 0% and 100% and automatically adjust the scale. i think that would fix a lot of problems including damaged batteries that still have a working voltmeter
yea me too... happened to me recently, before upgrading my old magician... after upgrading it with cotulla's ROM, still encountering the problem, but it's no big deal...
Funny i don't own a magician anymore but was looking from nostalja & i find this, anyway cut to the chase i have an extended battery on Kaiser and have had the same scenario, all beit i pop battery give 5 mins and reinsert charge and all fine.
Just funny the 83% as i run 2700 and still same %.
Hello there everyone.
I used to have a blackberry phone in the past and my battery life sucked.
I've been out of work recently and I noticed that I charge my phone quite often daily. I've had this phone for about 4 months now. In the past, since I'm either in the office or trying to catch some sleep, I get by with one charge a day. But now I can barely last 5 hours with a charge. Granted that I seem to be holding my phone always and always doing something with it every time that I'm awake.
Let's just segue a bit with my Blackberry experience since this might be affecting my mentality a bit.
I used to have a bb 9630 and that phone literally won't last through a work day without me plunging it in my office computer mid work day.
So now we come back to my Xperia Pro.
This is a screen shot that I took just now.
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I have been on YouTube for at least 3 hours straight before I took this.
Is this normal consumption? I mean, does watching videos on YouTube for 3 hours drains your battery that drastically?
I really have a bad sense of estimating things so I really can't tell if that's normal or not.
Although when I unplugged my phone and didn't use it for 55 minutes, my battery still went down like 3-4 percent.
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Many times the manufacturer will provide a crappy battery because they are cheap. One easy fix to a battery drain issue is upgrade the battery. MAh's (milliamp hours) are what you look for with a battery upgrade. Most batteries will specify the mAh value (common figures are 1200mAh, 1350mAh, 1500mAh etc) but basically the higher the mAh value, the longer the battery should last between charges.
Online auction sites and stores are an easy way to obtain one. I upgraded this phone battery from the stock battery, got one with 350 more mAh and the device will now last 2-3 hours longer with the same software.
Press Thanks if this helped!
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guitarman2010 said:
Many times the manufacturer will provide a crappy battery because they are cheap. One easy fix to a battery drain issue is upgrade the battery. MAh's (milliamp hours) are what you look for with a battery upgrade. Most batteries will specify the mAh value (common figures are 1200mAh, 1350mAh, 1500mAh etc) but basically the higher the mAh value, the longer the battery should last between charges.
Online auction sites and stores are an easy way to obtain one. I upgraded this phone battery from the stock battery, got one with 350 more mAh and the device will now last 2-3 hours longer with the same software.
Press Thanks if this helped!
Sent from my rooted SCH-R880 POS
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I'm kinda a bit hesitant with using a non-manufacturer battery. And it is really hard to get a hold of in our country. Most of those auction sites won't ship internally.
I guess what I just want to know is if my usage reflects my battery consumption without any anomaly.
And another question, is that media server thing caused by youtube or was it because I have a live wallpaper activated?
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Well the live wallpaper doesn't help battery life either, but you probably have your screen too bright, and watching youtube videos means you probably have the screen on 100% of the time, takes a crapload of power as well. I would definitely find out what the media server is though.
Hello,
when youre watching Youtube Videos on your Smartphone,
your battery drains very fast.
3-4 hours of screen on time is normal for the Samsung Galaxy S3 - obviously, a different device - but it doesn't exactly sound like a shocking figure to me that you're at 44% after 3 hours of YouTube. The fact that you have so much battery left AFTER watching video for 3 hours straight is very good and wouldn't call that drastic at all. I would call that good battery life.
3-4% an hour when not in use is probably due to having lots of apps constantly waking the device or having them use GPS, et cetera. You can use something like BetterBatteryStats to determine what's doing it if you're not sure.
Thanks for all the reply. I'll follow your advice and see what happens.
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specs and image of battery suggest it is a 2500 milli amp hour battery.....app=CPU-Z says its 1000 mAh
First I don't believe my phone is a counterfeit by images as follows
versus spec page
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/630a2b5c
Antutu score (yes I know they can be faked) = 33, 385
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various CPU-Z images showing 8 core, chipset and RAM
--comment normal counterfeits aren't a 8 core.
Now lets photo my actual battery, I added the negative and positive terminal symbols to focus my mind on where they should be
Finally our CPU-Z image of reporting capacity
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I am buying a different capacity off the net as the other images are too close for me to think other thoughts
I am thinking the resellers are duped by the outside battery capacity.
PS Battery doctor @88% charge says I have 26 hours left at claims battery is 4.2volts 880 mAh = 1000 @ 100% charge.
This appears to match CPU-Z volts number and not prove the 3.8 v showing on battery.
I am aware that volts do vary, but I am not an Chemical or Electrical Engineer.
thanks for reading
any comments?
Hehe mate, is funny if you believe that your phone have just 1000 mAh battery.. Tell how is possibile to get almost 5 SOT in one charge if is just a 1000 battery.. R
and the cores question, the phone in standby works with just 2, 3 cores bcz is enough to work normally butt when you play a 3D game or something heavy all 8 cores works trust me..
Cpu-z dont recognize the battery and this is the all truth..
from my F1
Hi srale2511
on PC your image blocks some part of your reply.....from 1000 mAh to ......................and the cores question
2) not sure what you mean by 5 SOT.
Are you referring to bottom of your image where it says 4H 56 min?
3) if so here is my image
Obviously we use our phones differently.
4) Now its good to know that wakelock stat but in my earlier post I claim battery doctor app says I have just over 26 hours left @ current usage @ 88%
and that does match GSam battery app that appears to claim that I can last 3days [email protected] averages at complete charge
OR am I reading it wrong?
I would have said, without knowing about your 5 number that SOT at 21% at middle of your image was more informative but HEY thats why I am asking the question.
thanks for any further advice you can offer
cheers
SOT is screen on time, so if you have 5h of SOT you should have a battery of 2500mHa inside.. And for the 8 cores question, when the phone is in stand by or a less usage he works with 2 or 3 cores butt when you play a game or something with heavy graphic usage all your 8 cores work.. I hope you understand me mate.. My english is not so good, i just want to tell you your phone is good and all is ok with him and his battery.. Cheers..
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Hi
thanks for the explanation. I have marked post as solved.
summary
CPU-Z and Battery Doctor false report the battery capacity.
I've recently noticed that the battery on my P3 seems to be dying. I've gone from 1.5 days of use at the start to 0.5 days. I also had some other issues with the port malfunctioning, so I managed to get a replacement under warranty.
Before I send my old unit back to Google, I decided to document how bad the battery has gotten to see if anyone is having similar issues with the phone at ~10mo of use.
Here's a screenshot of what battery looks like on it with a blank flash of stock, left it on airplane mode for the entire day and didn't use:
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Thanks for your post.
I bought mine used from Ebay so I have never seen "new" battery life..
Battery lasts less than a day but I have very poor cell reception.
On a new P3, does the 100% less the usage ever equate to current charge?
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I've recently noticed that the battery on my P3 seems to be dying. I've gone from 1.5 days of use at the start to 0.5 days. I also had some other issues with the port malfunctioning, so I managed to get a replacement under warranty.
Before I send my old unit back to Google, I decided to document how bad the battery has gotten to see if anyone is having similar issues with the phone at ~10mo of use.
Here's a screenshot of what battery looks like on it with a blank flash of stock, left it on airplane mode for the entire day and didn't use:
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oh damn, that's a pretty big drop. i bought my pixel last december, but my had to RMA it. My current unit is bouncing between 3 to 5 hours of screen on time.
I do run always on display.
Roughly 3.5-4 hrs, which after playing with the mate 20 pro it really makes you jealous.
Mine is a year old today. Accubattery says that health is 90% (2615/2915 mAh) and will last 6h 26m SoT from 80% full based on cumulative averages. I manage charge to 80% with tasker.
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Mine is a year old today. Accubattery says that health is 90% (2615/2915 mAh) and will last 6h 26m SoT from 80% full based on cumulative averages. I manage charge to 80% with tasker.
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Exactly the same for me. 2617/2915 mAh. I'm extremely disappointed with battery life, I can barely squeeze 4 hours of SoT now.
crazytankx2 said:
Exactly the same for me. 2617/2915 mAh. I'm extremely disappointed with battery life, I can barely squeeze 4 hours of SoT now.
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2586 mAh after one year. I would say that's ok, considering that I keep it plugged in over night. As for it's high consumption, i blame it on Android 10. I have no numbers, but it feels like I've lost 1/3 of the capacity since I got the phone...
5 hrs SOT with about 15% left. Kirisakura + Servicely
I was on lineageos, had more than a day. Since I'm back to stock, harshly have more than 12 hours
chongc1996 said:
I've recently noticed that the battery on my P3 seems to be dying. I've gone from 1.5 days of use at the start to 0.5 days. I also had some other issues with the port malfunctioning, so I managed to get a replacement under warranty.
Before I send my old unit back to Google, I decided to document how bad the battery has gotten to see if anyone is having similar issues with the phone at ~10mo of use.
Here's a screenshot of what battery looks like on it with a blank flash of stock, left it on airplane mode for the entire day and didn't use:
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That is pretty poor. No degradation noticed on my year old Pixel 3. My wife's 3-year old Pixel is about what you are experiencing, and she is due for a battery replacement.
I got my first pixel about 1 month ago and I have to say that it has the best battery life of any smartphone I have used. It is even better than the LG V30s and V50 which i think had great battery life. It is definitely better than my S21 5G (exynos). It is very efficient during use and really awesome in standby. However, I am not rooted and I have disabled 5G and AOD. I attached some screenshots. Note that I was on wifi about 85% of the time and my usage won't be the same as yours. But this is just to give an indication of what could be achieved with the pixel 6a.
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I got my first pixel about 1 month ago and I have to say that it has the best battery life of any smartphone I have used. It is even better than the LG V30s and V50 which i think had great battery life. It is definitely better than my S21 5G (exynos). It is very efficient during use and really awesome in standby. However, I disabled 5G and AOD. I attached some screenshots. Note that I was on wifi about 85% of the time and my usage won't be the same as yours. But this is just to give an indication of what could be achieved with the pixel 6a.
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I agree, tis a very good battery and managment. Pixel 7 has an even better one....
I gave up as I will be going out soon and I need the phone to be charged. it has been at 6% for about 2 hours and i don't even have it in battery saver mode and I still have auto brightness by default. I am loving this battery life.
If you root, with various tweaks you can squeeze approx. 15-20+% more outta it. GMS is a freakin' hog...you can tame it plus force numerous other system apps to doze muuch sooner. That's just a few.
Zaxx32 said:
If you root, with various tweaks you can squeeze approx. 15-20+% more outta it. GMS is a freakin' hog...you can tame it plus force numerous other system apps to doze muuch sooner. That's just a few.
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which tweaks? how to doze GMS??
charly30 said:
how to doze GMS??
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For all those people that find it more convenient to bother you with their question than to google it for themselves.
letmegooglethat.com
Yes must admit bought mine 3 days ago and battery is the best in any phone ive had including the Lenovo p2 with 5000mah battery if anyones old enough to remember that
3a XL was better
One plus 10 pro. Takes 20 mins to go from 0 to full charge and last forever !!!
Battery consumption really improved on January build.. I'm at 18% remaining with 7h 40 min SOT.
nahsha said:
Battery consumption really improved on January build.. I'm at 18% remaining with 7h 40 min SOT.
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Stable or QPR Beta 2 -2023?
dexlemaffo said:
Stable or QPR Beta 2 -2023?
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Stable
My girl with iphone 13 pro with same battery but 6.7 120gz screen with max brightness all time have stable(!!!) 8-9 screen on time. With VPN and all is on. I look for iphone now. Pixel is good as android but iphones is the most optimized device.
we dont like discussing Iphone here in fact i think it is out of bounds per rules also.
So, if I understand battery on 6a is now better than average?
How about heat management, does the phone tend to get warm or hot on basic tasks or prolonged use?
I have never noticed any heating issue at all although i never game on phones.
any tips to improve battery?
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any tips to improve battery?
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What do you need improving on?
is this ok with my battery?