Hello
I am a current iphone 4 user (jailbroken ) and like many other i am very much tempted by the Galaxy S3.
I've read a couple of thread on this forum about moving from ios to iphone however none really answers my main concerns.
A quick question: I read somewhere ( On lifehacker, msg me if you want to full link , its my first post so im not allowed to paste URLs) that all in all JAILBROKEN iphone is better at customization than Android.
Probably not out of the box but mainly because :"... rooting is about as big of a headache as breaking into a bank vault with a safety pin. You have over 100 different Android phones out there, each with its own rooting method, caveats, and risks that you have to research. It's so annoying that we had to turn our rooting guide into a guide for only the top 10 phones, in addition to tacking on an exhaustive glossary of all the crap you have to know before starting the process. "
On iphone , i have cydia. meaning i can install / remove tweaks one at a time without the need to root the whole damn device for a single feature every time.
My question to the pros and/or those who already did the migration.... Do you really miss some tweaking capabilities ? is everything really easier on a jailbroken iphone ?
Thanks , my first post
bebseh said:
Hello
I am a current iphone 4 user (jailbroken ) and like many other i am very much tempted by the Galaxy S3.
I've read a couple of thread on this forum about moving from ios to iphone however none really answers my main concerns.
A quick question: I read somewhere ( On lifehacker, msg me if you want to full link , its my first post so im not allowed to paste URLs) that all in all JAILBROKEN iphone is better at customization than Android.
Probably not out of the box but mainly because :"... rooting is about as big of a headache as breaking into a bank vault with a safety pin. You have over 100 different Android phones out there, each with its own rooting method, caveats, and risks that you have to research. It's so annoying that we had to turn our rooting guide into a guide for only the top 10 phones, in addition to tacking on an exhaustive glossary of all the crap you have to know before starting the process. "
On iphone , i have cydia. meaning i can install / remove tweaks one at a time without the need to root the whole damn device for a single feature every time.
My question to the pros and/or those who already did the migration.... Do you really miss some tweaking capabilities ? is everything really easier on a jailbroken iphone ?
Thanks , my first post
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The only thing true from that statement is that a different rooting method may be required for a different device. An iPhone (jailbroken or not) can never be as customizable as an android device (sometimes even stock). You do not have to "root a device...for a single feature every time." Once you root a device (and don't unroot - intentionally, firmware update, ect.), you will never have to root it again. For android, there are no missing tweaking capabilities - you can do anything you want (unlike the iPhone).
You should go with the Samsung Galaxy S III, you'll like it over the iPhone. It will be easy to root or add a custom rom to. I will be getting it, but currently have the Samsung Galaxy S II on Sprint and it has been very easy to hack. Some things are even automatic! Android has a wider range of what you can do with it too.
Thank you for your info
If some of you are ex-ios users, could you please let me know what options from ios you miss the most ?
<b>Thank you for your info<br />
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If some of you are ex-ios users, could you please let me know what options from ios you miss the most ?</b>
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I wouldn't classify myself as an "ex-ios user", but I have used many iPhones/iPod touches. To be honest, I really don't miss any options from iOS (most of them - and many more - are included in android). The only thing (more like a variety instead of "option") is that iOS usually gets more games than android (or at least gets them first).
Since you already did a jailbreak, we'll assume you are technically competent.
Your first steps after root (AR) will be slow, so as not to screw anything up too badly. Keep xda handy, just in case. Look at Droid-life. They'll be all over the SGS3.
Eventually, you'll wonder why you didn't act sooner.
Enjoy!
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bebseh said:
Hello
I am a current iphone 4 user (jailbroken ) and like many other i am very much tempted by the Galaxy S3.
I've read a couple of thread on this forum about moving from ios to iphone however none really answers my main concerns.
A quick question: I read somewhere ( On lifehacker, msg me if you want to full link , its my first post so im not allowed to paste URLs) that all in all JAILBROKEN iphone is better at customization than Android.
Probably not out of the box but mainly because :"... rooting is about as big of a headache as breaking into a bank vault with a safety pin. You have over 100 different Android phones out there, each with its own rooting method, caveats, and risks that you have to research. It's so annoying that we had to turn our rooting guide into a guide for only the top 10 phones, in addition to tacking on an exhaustive glossary of all the crap you have to know before starting the process. "
On iphone , i have cydia. meaning i can install / remove tweaks one at a time without the need to root the whole damn device for a single feature every time.
My question to the pros and/or those who already did the migration.... Do you really miss some tweaking capabilities ? is everything really easier on a jailbroken iphone ?
Thanks , my first post
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bebseh said:
Thank you for your info
If some of you are ex-ios users, could you please let me know what options from ios you miss the most ?
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In my opinion iOS is almost perfect. And Android has yet to reach that point. This the reason that Apple fights jailbreaking its phones with so much commitment. Whereas, Google and manufacturers really encourage the development of android. iPhone is extremely smooth in operation and function whereas to achieve that on 95 percent of Android phones, you'd have to install a custom rom which might still be in testing stage and still not perfect. Even if you remove all the bloatware on android phones manually, it will still be not as fast as a custom rom. So in short, Apple has perfected their platform for the iPhone whereas Google has yet to do so. But thats where the fun lies, in experimenting with things you don't know. So the feature I miss the most would be an opportunity to experiment a great deal, which is there in Android but not in iOS. But if you look at hardware specs, SIII definitely takes the cake cos its quad core. Apple already has the smoothest performing device but imo, it will soon respond to that. Also, many apps are made first for iOS and then for Android. Lastly, Android devices confuse the customer because there is so much of pointless variation in devices whereas there is just one great iPhone. So you have to keep that in mind as well
bebseh said:
Hello
I am a current iphone 4 user (jailbroken ) and like many other i am very much tempted by the Galaxy S3.
I've read a couple of thread on this forum about moving from ios to iphone however none really answers my main concerns.
A quick question: I read somewhere ( On lifehacker, msg me if you want to full link , its my first post so im not allowed to paste URLs) that all in all JAILBROKEN iphone is better at customization than Android.
Probably not out of the box but mainly because :"... rooting is about as big of a headache as breaking into a bank vault with a safety pin. You have over 100 different Android phones out there, each with its own rooting method, caveats, and risks that you have to research. It's so annoying that we had to turn our rooting guide into a guide for only the top 10 phones, in addition to tacking on an exhaustive glossary of all the crap you have to know before starting the process. "
On iphone , i have cydia. meaning i can install / remove tweaks one at a time without the need to root the whole damn device for a single feature every time.
My question to the pros and/or those who already did the migration.... Do you really miss some tweaking capabilities ? is everything really easier on a jailbroken iphone ?
Thanks , my first post
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A jailbreak will never compare to stock ice cream sandwitch in a galaxy nexus (Google Phone) in customization. Sure ios is more fluid,but then,it's only the one list of apps. It's simplicity is why it can never be properly compared to android. Android isn't complex though,it's just fun. Ios is your granpa with wisdom and unlimited long sleeved shirts. Android is you're cool uncle with tatoos and a Harley. Totally different, but both have their appeal.
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Also I think it's much more practical to have all your tweaks and hacks available in one place ( cydia ) then having to go read countless forums in search for one....
is it true ?
bebseh said:
Also I think it's much more practical to have all your tweaks and hacks available in one place ( cydia ) then having to go read countless forums in search for one....
is it true ?
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Not possible. Different devices have different tweaks and hacks. Plus, the android tweaks are much different. It's not just some overlay to make your phone look different...some of them make deep deep changes to your entire system.
The type of customization you are talking about can be done through the play store. Just install a new launcher and each launcher has tons of themes available.
Sora3004 said:
In my opinion iOS is almost perfect. And Android has yet to reach that point. This the reason that Apple fights jailbreaking its phones with so much commitment. Whereas, Google and manufacturers really encourage the development of android. iPhone is extremely smooth in operation and function whereas to achieve that on 95 percent of Android phones, you'd have to install a custom rom which might still be in testing stage and still not perfect. Even if you remove all the bloatware on android phones manually, it will still be not as fast as a custom rom. So in short, Apple has perfected their platform for the iPhone whereas Google has yet to do so. But thats where the fun lies, in experimenting with things you don't know. So the feature I miss the most would be an opportunity to experiment a great deal, which is there in Android but not in iOS. But if you look at hardware specs, SIII definitely takes the cake cos its quad core. Apple already has the smoothest performing device but imo, it will soon respond to that. Also, many apps are made first for iOS and then for Android. Lastly, Android devices confuse the customer because there is so much of pointless variation in devices whereas there is just one great iPhone. So you have to keep that in mind as well
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I NEVER owned an Iphone and only use nothing but android phone up until I have my new Ipad. My current devices are, Sprint Evo 4G LTE (sprint version of one x), Motorola xoom, and the new ipad. My wife have the Og EVO 4g, daughter with the Epic 4G and my son now have the Ipod touch 4th generation.
As you can see in my household Android rule and I have quite a bit of experience with android rooting and customization. Can't speak for the IOS in the Iphone (I'm assuming there the same) but up unitl I purchase the new Ipad and was swore that Android devices is so much better in customization than IOS, I was wrong. After jailbreaking my new Ipad and still learning all the tweak you can do inside cydia, it is so enjoyable and effortless, not saying android isn't fun, it is indeed.
What I like about IOS over android is how opitmized each and every apps that is out for both platform. Every apps and games I played on IOS that are also on Android runs ten times better than android. Were talking about web browsing to 3d games everything is silky smooth. Heck even my son jailbreak Ipod is very smooth compare to my flagship android Evo 4G LTE. I will continue to use both platform as long as it suit my needs but my advice is don't give up one platform for another just because of what you've heard. Try it out first and then asked yourself which platform you've perferred the most. For me I like them both in there own ways, just my two cents.
Apple is a closed system ... This is why having an iPhone is a true custom galley ... iTunes update every week day with the jailbreak that jumps ... Short! The big ****!
Since I bought my first Android phone (Nexus S), I found my freedom, I can customize as much as I want my phone. The act of unlocking the phone is primarily for setting much further and for a fan of flash and custom system (custom rom, Cyanogen, MIUI,...).
After a lot cheaper and just as powerful and polyvalant, with a better overlay, Verily I advise you the HTC One X or One S.
The Galaxy S III looks good but I have trouble with the side too plastic and fingerprints at will ... The AMOLED screen is for me to lower quality than the SLCD.
GS3: AMOLED+
HTC ONE X: Super LCD
With my "HTC One X," I month, I am delighted, only a little autonomy default. Side and top design is integrated with the battery.
bebseh said:
Also I think it's much more practical to have all your tweaks and hacks available in one place ( cydia ) then having to go read countless forums in search for one....
is it true ?
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Xda has everything in one place. no?
Great
In android there are good and bad sides.
Bad is that there are still lag, bugs and shut down. But greater side there is many phones you can choose and Specs are better than iPhone 4. There are 1 major thing that annoys my gear that is: there is so many phones and so few updates, like in old phones there is no update to Android 4.0, but in iOS there is that iPhone 3g have iOS 5.0. Few games dont run in android to There are complicated parts and great parts about android
From what I understand, out of the box android is much more "customizable" , but apps and games look much better on IOS ( and is a much more stable system )
bebseh said:
From what I understand, out of the box android is much more "customizable" , but apps and games look much better on IOS ( and is a much more stable system )
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An original system in Ice Cream Sandwich as well as a running IOS, games and application included. There had gaps before, but now Google has caught up.
bebseh said:
Also I think it's much more practical to have all your tweaks and hacks available in one place ( cydia ) then having to go read countless forums in search for one....
is it true ?
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I don't see what your worried about. Just find the xda wiki for your device and everything is right there. Most devices have easy peasy hacking tools (one click everything is installed) and some of the stuff you have to hack your iPhone for (themes,a keyboard change) is stock android. You might even not want to bother with rooting your android phone for a while.
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Will rooting make my phone generally faster ?
because its IOS its the other way around. jailbreaking tends to slow down ur phone
Rooting will alloy you to modify anything and everything, basically. Otherthings to note that make most android devices better, ability to remove battery without voiding warranty/worrying about killing your phone, most have mSD slot for expandable/removable additional memory, LARGER screens, some have physical keyboards, no iTUNES BS!!!, can plug in and drag/drop anything everything you want, more custom roms than you know what to do with, etc. The list goes on and on. I have never/will never own an iFail device. Have used them, and I have to say even my pretty basic media/music players are WAY less compicated than iFail devices. If you want to "sync" to more than one computer, NO PROBLEM, You want to flash a new rom/radio, etc, NO PROBLEM.
Even if there is no physicaly qwerty keyboard, it is nice having more than one button to do all the work.
For me, being a PC person (mostly Linux, some Windoze) having to iTunes just to be able to "sync", modify, load, whatever on to a device is recockulous.
Besides the fact, that you can almost buy a NEW, no extended contract phone for the price of an iFail with a contract should tell you something as well.
bebseh said:
Will rooting make my phone generally faster ?
because its IOS its the other way around. jailbreaking tends to slow down ur phone
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Big yes,it's one of the major reasons people are willing to void their warranty. Lag fixes are a big part of custom roms, some even remove android features just to hit impossible benchmarks and fluidity. Of course, a good balance of features and speed is my recommendation,you'll love it.
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Hello my dear friends and Samsung users,
How are you doing? I've been happy since the day I switched from Iphone 5 to Samsung S3. But now I need a bit of your help and some advice of a pro.
Look, I got a Samsung SIII GSM loaded with the newest Omega ROM Custom and a Avast! Secure software on background. It's rooted and also ready for being used.
I'm not really happy with the custom ROM though, so I describe below what I'm looking for. Perhaps you can help me:
- I need a lot more performance and speed, I want to push to its limits. Currently it reacts not as fast as I want when I go to unlock screen and unlock it for example. I also want to run apps and important tasks much more faster and effectively. Better than an Iphone 5.
- I don't care about battery usage and drain. It's absolute unimportant, I want more performance instead.
- ROM doesn't matter either, as long as it can help me to perform very satisfying performance.
I use my device a lot, when it comes to gaming, surfing on the internet, camera and chatting with friends using What's app. So you can imagine why I want all that.
I'm not really sure what to do, there are so many ROMs and Apps that can improve performance. I'm not sure, which one is the most recommended though, so I really need your help.
I also use apps such as CPU Tuner, SD-Booster, AutoKiller Memory, CacheMate but isn't that dispensable? I mean, custom ROM do already have these functions included, don't they?
Please help me
You know partner you'll probably get a lot more help if you post this on the international forum. This is the Verizon forum so I doubt anyone here knows much scout the ROMs available for your phone
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Hey everybody, I am thinking about switching over to Android. I am a total android newb, I have only really messed around briefly with a few different android phones over the years, so I don't have much experience with them. I consider myself an iDevice expert, I've had almost every iPhone, 2 iPads, and helped dozens of people jailbreak, learn to use their iphones, fixed them, sold them, etc. I am also highly proficient with both windows and mac and have hacked many different gaming consoles so i am not worried about learning a new system. Also i'm currently on verizon. I just want to skip the time it takes scouring the internet for tips and tricks and everything I need to know about android and I am looking for help from anybody who can.
I have a basic understanding of droids, in that I know they are open for loading custom roms, i know they generally come preinstalled with horrible bloatware versions of android from the service providers.
I am mainly looking for the following things:
-up to date android basic guides, advanced use guides, ROM info, hacking info
-Resource and news websites similar to iClarified, RedmondPie, ModMyi, Sinful iPhone, etc focused on droid news, tweaks, hacks, etc
-info on which devices are generally considered the best or if i should hold out for an upcomming phone (particularly on verizon & in usa)
-which ROMs are considered best and what the differences are and their comparability to the devices out there
-equivalents of iPhone tweaks that I love (aka PDANet [free tethering], ifile, winterboard, 3g unrestricter, swipeselection, manualcorrect pro, multitasking, installous [and its alternatives] etc) and i am aware some of that stuff is just stock android
-any other things i didn't mention that you may think is helpful to me
also in case you are wondering why i am considering switching its because ive had an iphone forever and i'm getting bored with it. i also am sick of dealing with apple stifling innovative jailbreaking tweaks, itunes being awful and mandatory, small screen (even on i5), and i am generally dissapointed at how little iOS has changed since the iphone 3g.
so in closing, i would really appreciate any insight into being an android pro
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Not sure what you mean by this. But rooting / hacking phones vary from phone to phone and you find all info in this forum.
Resource and news...
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http://www.androidpolice.com/
http://androidandme.com/
.... and tons of others
which ROMs are considered best
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Again it can vary on each phone, but one of the best roms with biggest support is Cyanogenmod
equivalents of iPhone tweaks
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Most of them you can find in Google Play sometimes here on forum. I'm not aware of any must have Android tweak unavailable in Play. Most of tweeks are included in custom roms and you choose rom with tweeks you need. Sometimes with installers like Aroma installer you can choose different functions / tweaks when you install rom.
Hope, this will help.
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thanks for the info
Also pay attention to the device you get as Verizon is known for locking their bootloaders making it very difficult to flash custom roms. Also I would read up on Linux
For me Paranoid Android is the best rom. It supports a wide no of devices. And theres a new featured called "Halo" coming up which changes the way notifications show up on your phone and it is AWESOME
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Also pay attention to the device you get as Verizon is known for locking their bootloaders making it very difficult to flash custom roms. Also I would read up on Linux
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i was leaning towards the galaxy s4, as far as i know its gonna be the best verizon droid as far as power goes. i heard the htc one is possibly going to be released on verizon soon as well. if you have any other suggestions i would like to hear it. i usually upgrade my phone every year so i like to get the new hot thing, that is one of the reasons i am thinking about jumping ship on iphone. the stock iphone experience is not only ugly, but crippled compared to what you can do with jailbreak tweaks, and i hate getting the new device and then waiting months for a jailbreak.
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i was leaning towards the galaxy s4, as far as i know its gonna be the best verizon droid as far as power goes. i heard the htc one is possibly going to be released on verizon soon as well. if you have any other suggestions i would like to hear it. i usually upgrade my phone every year so i like to get the new hot thing, that is one of the reasons i am thinking about jumping ship on iphone. the stock iphone experience is not only ugly, but crippled compared to what you can do with jailbreak tweaks, and i hate getting the new device and then waiting months for a jailbreak.
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Well that depends on if Big red locks the bootladers or not. I would suggest Nexus but they dont work well on big red.