Have to swap my SM-G930T for a SM-G930P (Sprint).
Using it on Yoigo in Spain, which uses B3 for LTE, B1 for UTMS, and 1800 (DCS) for 3G.
Looks like the Sprint version does NOT support LTE Band 3, so I will only have 3G (HSPA+, right?)
So Am I going to get much slower speeds with 3G? And is there a way to enable Band 3 on the Sprint version?
d0g said:
Have to swap my SM-G930T for a SM-G930P (Sprint).
Using it on Yoigo in Spain, which uses B3 for LTE, B1 for UTMS, and 1800 (DCS) for 3G.
Looks like the Sprint version does NOT support LTE Band 3, so I will only have 3G (HSPA+, right?)
So Am I going to get much slower speeds with 3G? And is there a way to enable Band 3 on the Sprint version?
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Bump? Anyone?
That depends on your wireless service provider if he has limited your bandwidth. With 3G + (H +) are up to 42Mbit downstream and 5 Mbps upload speed possible. Whether the Band 3 can be unlocked is hard to say if it is supported by the hardware probably
Hi-TechUp said:
That depends on your wireless service provider if he has limited your bandwidth. With 3G + (H +) are up to 42Mbit downstream and 5 Mbps upload speed possible. Whether the Band 3 can be unlocked is hard to say if it is supported by the hardware probably
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But 4G is theoretically faster right? Especially upload
d0g said:
But 4G is theoretically faster right? Especially upload
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With LTE (4G) go down speeds up to 225 Mbit and 50Mbit up if your carrier supports and provides your contract no limit bandwidth
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Hi everyone.. I'm planning to get this device and use it outside the US (mainly China and Indonesia).
Will the 3G work in those 2 countries? From the specs sheet, I understand that MT4GS support UMTS 2100. So theoretically, there should be no problem, since China and Indonesia use UMTS 2100 band, but it would be better if someone with personal experience can confirm this.
Anyone here has any experience using MT4GS outside the US?
yep. I am. In the Netherlands. Don't know what band i am though. And i had to unlock the device before i could use it.
I'm in Canada, working fine on the regular GSM bands but I only get 2G speeds when using data...thinking about switching to a UMTS provider.
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yep. I am. In the Netherlands. Don't know what band i am though. And i had to unlock the device before i could use it.
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so just to be clear.. your handset has no problem using 3G connection right? as far as i know, the netherlands also use UMTS 2100 band
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I'm in Canada, working fine on the regular GSM bands but I only get 2G speeds when using data...thinking about switching to a UMTS provider.
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why do you only get 2G when using data? is it due to the provider or the handset?
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so just to be clear.. your handset has no problem using 3G connection right? as far as i know, the netherlands also use UMTS 2100 band
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Yep i don't have any problems using the 3G connection. Just needed to find the right APN settings.
And according this site (and a couple of others):
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
It's indeed the 2100 band.
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Yep i don't have any problems using the 3G connection. Just needed to find the right APN settings.
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Great!! one less thing to worry then so I think there isn't any limitations if this device is used outside the US, as long as the UMTS band is correct.
Thanks a lot!
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so just to be clear.. your handset has no problem using 3G connection right? as far as i know, the netherlands also use UMTS 2100 band
why do you only get 2G when using data? is it due to the provider or the handset?
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It's due to the provider, they don't operate on the 2100 band, so I can only use their 2G network.
mat_oli said:
It's due to the provider, they don't operate on the 2100 band, so I can only use their 2G network.
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Thanks for the info!! Now I feel more encouraged to get this device
I found this in the review section of this phone in phonearena :
Global travelers will like the handset very much since it can be used just about anywhere around the world for phone calls, but 3G and 4G data speeds can only be experience domestically through T-Mobile’s AWS band. However, you can still achieve 2G EDGE speeds with other network carriers.
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now I'm confused again
2G it is GSM that can be used anyware in the world that supports GSM however 3G on different carriers uses different bands and different technology, Tmob uses a AWS* some carriers use this for there 3G.... Check if your carrier uses AWS for its 3G.
I know that Canada has WIND and Mobilicity that use AWS 1.7/2.1 for there 3G,.... that said I don't know about other countrys...
* About AWS in the USA
In September 2006, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) auctioned licenses in the first Advanced Wireless Services band. This band was an area of wireless spectrum, half in the 1700 MHz (1.7 GHz) and half in the 2100 MHz (2.1 GHz) frequencies, that was already in use by government services. The spectrum was planned to become available after the government users migrated to different frequencies.
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2G it is GSM that can be used anyware in the world that supports GSM however 3G on different carriers uses different bands and different technology, Tmob uses a AWS* some carriers use this for there 3G.... Check if your carrier uses AWS for its 3G.
I know that Canada has WIND and Mobilicity that use AWS 1.7/2.1 for there 3G,.... that said I don't know about other countrys...
* About AWS in the USA
In September 2006, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) auctioned licenses in the first Advanced Wireless Services band. This band was an area of wireless spectrum, half in the 1700 MHz (1.7 GHz) and half in the 2100 MHz (2.1 GHz) frequencies, that was already in use by government services. The spectrum was planned to become available after the government users migrated to different frequencies.
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Hi Mistix.. thanks for your reply
Yes I'm aware about the AWS which uses the 1700/2100 band for their 3G and 4G, but according to phonearena, MT4GS supports the following band :
UMTS: 1700/2100, 2100
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which means besides supporting AWS (1700/2100), it also supports the "regular" 2100 UMTS band. The information could be wrong though..
but nldroid has stated that he has no problem using 3G in the Netherlands. And the last time I checked, the Netherlands still use the "regular" 2100 UMTS band (AWS is only available in the states and Canada).
Maybe they mean that if you're T-Mobile USA customer you can only use 2G outside the US with roaming.
I'm definitly on 3G. (it actually says 4G sometimes: http://attachments.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=689448&d=1313411454)
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Maybe they mean that if you're T-Mobile USA customer you can only use 2G outside the US with roaming.
I'm definitly on 3G. (it actually says 4G sometimes: http://attachments.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=689448&d=1313411454)
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Thanks for the pic! Looking forward to get my hand on this baby next month
What is the highest speed you get if you disable 4g on the US-version? Do you still get H+, only H, only #g or what?
Thanks
H+ I believe.
Thanks, would be great if someone could confirm by actually turning off 4g and see if they still get H+
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Thanks, would be great if someone could confirm by actually turning off 4g and see if they still get H+
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why would h+ be affected by your 4g setting?
Just a rumour I read. H+ is considered LTE on the US version. Hope it's wrong.
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Just a rumour I read. H+ is considered LTE on the US version. Hope it's wrong.
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No its not. HSPA+ is not considered LTE in any country. Some countries consider HSPA+ to be 4g, but that's not accurate. All LTE is 4g, not all 4G is LTE.
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No its not. HSPA+ is not considered LTE in any country. Some countries consider HSPA+ to be 4g, but that's not accurate. All LTE is 4g, not all 4G is LTE.
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Back when the iPhone 4S first came out, AT&T made the handset show "4G" when it was using HSPA+. this confused some users into thinking the 4S was an LTE device. I wonder if OP is referring to something like that?
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Back when the iPhone 4S first came out, AT&T made the handset show "4G" when it was using HSPA+. this confused some users into thinking the 4S was an LTE device. I wonder if OP is referring to something like that?
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Possibly. This is why I mentioned that some countries inaccurately referred to HSPA+ as 4G and that although all LTE is 4G, not all 4G is LTE. I want to be clear that 4G, LTE and HSPA+ are not synonymous. they are all different things.
Essentially:
2G = GPRS and (2.5G) Edge
3G = 3G, (3.5G) HSPA, HSPA+, DC-HSPA
4G = LTE, WiMax
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Possibly. This is why I mentioned that some countries inaccurately referred to HSPA+ as 4G and that although all LTE is 4G, not all 4G is LTE. I want to be clear that 4G, LTE and HSPA+ are not synonymous. they are all different things.
Essentially:
2G = GPRS and (2.5G) Edge
3G = 3G, (3.5G) HSPA, HSPA+, DC-HSPA
4G = LTE, WiMax
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AS OP my main concearn was that I would not get H+ from a US-version here in Norway (have imported, not recieved yet), and would be stuck with very low 3G-speeds. Now I have seen other in Norway reporting at least 6 mbps speeds, possibly more. I get around 12-13 on H+ with my old SGS2, and would hope Nexus 5 with LTE disabled would get me the same speeds. LTE is not very important for me.
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AS OP my main concearn was that I would not get H+ from a US-version here in Norway (have imported, not recieved yet), and would be stuck with very low 3G-speeds. Now I have seen other in Norway reporting at least 6 mbps speeds, possibly more. I get around 12-13 on H+ with my old SGS2, and would hope Nexus 5 with LTE disabled would get me the same speeds. LTE is not very important for me.
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Yes it has h+, when ever I'm in a non LTE area that's what it defaults to. Granted I'm in the USA on att and your in Norway so I'm not sure what there H bands are, look it up and reference the n5 specs to get your answer.
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AS OP my main concearn was that I would not get H+ from a US-version here in Norway (have imported, not recieved yet), and would be stuck with very low 3G-speeds. Now I have seen other in Norway reporting at least 6 mbps speeds, possibly more. I get around 12-13 on H+ with my old SGS2, and would hope Nexus 5 with LTE disabled would get me the same speeds. LTE is not very important for me.
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Yep, there are only 2 models of N5. D820 US and D821 RoW. The only difference is the LTE frequencies they can handle. H+ works on both models across the same frequencies.
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AS OP my main concearn was that I would not get H+ from a US-version here in Norway (have imported, not recieved yet), and would be stuck with very low 3G-speeds. Now I have seen other in Norway reporting at least 6 mbps speeds, possibly more. I get around 12-13 on H+ with my old SGS2, and would hope Nexus 5 with LTE disabled would get me the same speeds. LTE is not very important for me.
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You should get similar or faster H+ speeds than your galaxy s2.
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Here's a comparison for you.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
As you can see, all the WCDMA bands on the D821 exist on the D820, which means you will still get 3G, HSPA, HSPA+, DC-HSPA
Thanx guys!
Sorry if this is an idiotic question to be asking, but here goes:
I'm going to Japan, and was planning on getting a prepaid data SIM from so-net for my stay. Here are the bands they say are needed for the device to work on the network, either on LTE or 3G.
LTE (Xi®) :
·Band 1 (2100MHz)
·Band 19 (800MHz)
·Band 21 (1500MHz)
·Band 3 (1800MHz)*Limited to the Tokyo, Nagoya, and Osaka areas
3G (FOMA®)
·Band 1 (2100MHz)
·Band 19 (800MHz)
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My question is, I know the TL-10 has some of these frequencies (band 1 and 3 for LTE, and band 1 for 3G). However, are all of them required for you to be able to connect to the network on either LTE or 3G (i.e, would I require a device with both 2100MHz and 800MHz supported to connect on a 3G signal)? Thanks in advance.
drfandroid said:
Sorry if this is an idiotic question to be asking, but here goes:
I'm going to Japan, and was planning on getting a prepaid data SIM from so-net for my stay. Here are the bands they say are needed for the device to work on the network, either on LTE or 3G.
My question is, I know the TL-10 has some of these frequencies (band 1 and 3 for LTE, and band 1 for 3G). However, are all of them required for you to be able to connect to the network on either LTE or 3G (i.e, would I require a device with both 2100MHz and 800MHz supported to connect on a 3G signal)? Thanks in advance.
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Hello, there are never idiotics questions...
All of these frequencies are not required to be able to connect to the network. The only downside is that you won't get an optimal connection in some places where frequencies are not supported by your phone. For example, in an area with only Band 19 LTE coverage, you're connection will be in 3G instead of 4G.
grofock said:
Hello, there are never idiotics questions...
All of these frequencies are not required to be able to connect to the network. The only downside is that you won't get an optimal connection in some places where frequencies are not supported by your phone. For example, in an area with only Band 19 LTE coverage, you're connection will be in 3G instead of 4G.
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Cheers for the reply :good: I was led to believe you needed multiple bands to connect, because Wind Mobile here in Canada requires both 1700 and 2100 MHz supported on a device for it to be compatible with the network.
my question is very short and straight forward
what i will lose if i used the unlocked 6GB/128GB U11 in |US/Canada
what i know is the B66 LTE frequency which i'm not aware of any NA carrier using this frequency
other than ?
Performance
Call quality
Battery life
software
Thanks
Ahmad
a_Sika said:
what i know is the B66 LTE frequency which i'm not aware of any NA carrier using this frequency
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There are more differences in LTE frequencies than just B66, which is used by AT&T. Possible carrier aggregation combos for LTE-Advanced are different as well.
HTC U11 WHL - North America
2G/2.5G- GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS
900/850/AWS/1900/2100 (B8/B5/B4/B2/B1 with 900/850/AWS/1900/2100 diversity), HSDPA 42, HSUPA 5.76
4G LTE (up to 600Mbps download speed/with 2CA, 3CA Carrier Aggregation and 256 QAM, service dependent)
FDD: Bands B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/
B13/B17/B20/B25/B26/B28/B66
TDD: Bands B41
VoLTE,Wi-Fi Calling
Cat 16 LTE ready with 4x4MIMO, supports near 1Gbps download speeds and upload speeds of up to 75Mbps
HTC U11 DUGL - EMEA dual-SIM
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS
800/900/1900/2100 (B5/B8/B2/B1), HSDPA 42, HSUPA 5.76
4G LTE (up to 800Mbps, service dependent)
FDD: Bands B4/B12/B17/B28/B20/B5/B8/B3/B1/B7/B32
TDD: Bands B39/B40/B38/B41
with 2CA, 3CA, 4CA Carrier Aggregation
VoLTE,Wi-Fi Calling
Device capable of support Cat 15 LTE, download up to 800Mbps, upload up to 75 Mbps
mmmm..
which means it will work in Canada but maybe not with the maximum network capabilities ...
anything else other than the network ?
Kisakuku said:
There are more differences in LTE frequencies than just B66, which is used by AT&T. Possible carrier aggregation combos for LTE-Advanced are different as well.
HTC U11 WHL - North America
2G/2.5G- GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS
900/850/AWS/1900/2100 (B8/B5/B4/B2/B1 with 900/850/AWS/1900/2100 diversity), HSDPA 42, HSUPA 5.76
4G LTE (up to 600Mbps download speed/with 2CA, 3CA Carrier Aggregation and 256 QAM, service dependent)
FDD: Bands B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/
B13/B17/B20/B25/B26/B28/B66
TDD: Bands B41
VoLTE,Wi-Fi Calling
Cat 16 LTE ready with 4x4MIMO, supports near 1Gbps download speeds and upload speeds of up to 75Mbps
HTC U11 DUGL - EMEA dual-SIM
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS
800/900/1900/2100 (B5/B8/B2/B1), HSDPA 42, HSUPA 5.76
4G LTE (up to 800Mbps, service dependent)
FDD: Bands B4/B12/B17/B28/B20/B5/B8/B3/B1/B7/B32
TDD: Bands B39/B40/B38/B41
with 2CA, 3CA, 4CA Carrier Aggregation
VoLTE,Wi-Fi Calling
Device capable of support Cat 15 LTE, download up to 800Mbps, upload up to 75 Mbps
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a_Sika said:
mmmm..
which means it will work in Canada but maybe not with the maximum network capabilities ...
anything else other than the network ?
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You'll get dual SIM support and different pre-installed apps. Your firmware and OTA updates will be for the original market (EMEA or Taiwan), not for US Unlocked.
I'm curious as well. Subbed
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That's good...
Any negative impact on battery life
Any significant positive impact on phone performance (6 GB ram) ?
Kisakuku said:
You'll get dual SIM support and different pre-installed apps. Your firmware and OTA updates will be for the original market (EMEA or Taiwan), not for US Unlocked.
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That's good...
Any negative impact on battery life
Any significant positive impact on phone performance (6 GB ram) ?
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Battery life - probably not. Performance - some positive impact if you're into heavy multitasking.
So we won't have any issues with call signal, 3/4G data or battery drain? Thank you in advance. I'm just trying to make sure that the phone will work fine in states before I spend 750 bucks
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So we won't have any issues with call signal, 3/4G data or battery drain? Thank you in advance. I'm just trying to make sure that the phone will work fine in states before I spend 750 bucks
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LTE band support is the only concern and depends on your mobile carrier in the US as well as your mobile market (city).
i didnt notice i had ordered the g955fd until a day after and im wondering since i live in the usa if im going to be able to use my carrier on this device. i use metropcs and live in a semi-rural area in georgia. i spend a lot of time in the city aswell. any info would be greatly appreciated.
MetroPCS is a US prepaid wireless service offered by T-Mobile US. MetroPCS uses T-Mobile US's GSM (1900MHz), a combination of UMTS/HSPA+(850MHz/1900MHz) and their 4G LTE networks.
For UMTS (3G) MetroPCS works on bands 2 and 4. UMTS B2(1900 PCS) and B4(1700/2100 AWS 1).
For LTE (4G) MetroPCS works on bands 2, 4, 12, 66 and 71. LTE B2(1900 PCS), B4(1700/2100 AWS 1), B12(700 ac), B66(1700/2100) and B71(600).
Samsung Galaxy S8+ G955FD supports all these UMTS/LTE bands except the B71(600) band. Usually GSM operators use higher frequency bands like the 2100/1900 MHz bands and rarely they use the lower frequency bands like the 700/600 MHz bands. So your G955FD will work flawlessly on 3G/4G MetroPCS network.
You can use LTE Discovery app from Google play store to check your band online while using your mobile. You get the band number on the Notification bar real time.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...xy-s8-duos-td-lte-samsung-dream-2#frequencies
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/metropcs-united-states
Hope that helps with the correct information you need.
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tghandour said:
MetroPCS is a US prepaid wireless service offered by T-Mobile US. MetroPCS uses T-Mobile US's GSM (1900MHz), a combination of UMTS/HSPA+(850MHz/1900MHz) and their 4G LTE networks.
For UMTS (3G) MetroPCS works on bands 2 and 4. UMTS B2(1900 PCS) and B4(1700/2100 AWS 1).
For LTE (4G) MetroPCS works on bands 2, 4, 12, 66 and 71. LTE B2(1900 PCS), B4(1700/2100 AWS 1), B12(700 ac), B66(1700/2100) and B71(600).
Samsung Galaxy S8+ G955FD supports all these UMTS/LTE bands except the B71(600) band. Usually GSM operators use higher frequency bands like the 2100/1900 MHz bands and rarely they use the lower frequency bands like the 700/600 MHz bands. So your G955FD will work flawlessly on 3G/4G MetroPCS network.
You can use LTE Discovery app from Google play store to check your band online while using your mobile. You get the band number on the Notification bar real time.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...xy-s8-duos-td-lte-samsung-dream-2#frequencies
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/metropcs-united-states
Hope that helps with the correct information you need.
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Thank you for this very detailed post! I do have one more question though. Do I need to flash any CSC? It seems like I was getting much better connection on my Nexus 6P than I am on this phone right now.
I'm running Renovate ICE 14.1 right now and I'm wondering if its possible to flash Snapdragon CSC on Exynos variants. I have tried it before on completely stock rom with no luck, but I have seen people say its okay to flash Snapdragon CSC on the Exynos variant of this device. Once again I really appreciate all this information <3