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[Q]Changing 3g Bands

Hi,
i live in argentina, and i found i dont have 3g coverage.
bands in argentina are http://www.mobileworldlive.com/maps/network.php?cid=3206&cname=Argentina
Do anyone know if is there a way to config my xt720 to bands 850/1900?
tks!

There isn't anything to configure. The phone automatically defaults to the 850/1900 bands when 3G isn't available.

but if in my country bands ar 850/1900, why do i only have edge?

tutincho said:
but if in my country bands ar 850/1900, why do i only have edge?
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You probably won't ever get 3G due to different bands on the phone versus your country's. Edge only.

reverendkjr said:
You probably won't ever get 3G due to different bands on the phone versus your country's. Edge only.
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To expand on what the Rev said from what i know in North America all XT720s that were sold, were W-CDMA/AWS i.e. their 3G bands were 1700mhz down link and 2100mhz uplink. Although they did have quad band 2G i.e. GSM 850/900/1800/1900.
So if in Argentina they are using 3G frequencies 850mhz down link 1900mhz uplink then the xt720 will never get 3G HSPA, phones from the following carriers will work Telstra NextG phones (Australian), Rogers (Canadian), Bell New 3G (Canadian), Telus New 3G (Canadian), and AT&T (USA).
Hope this helps.

lynxz3 said:
To expand on what the Rev said from what i know in North America all XT720s that were sold, were W-CDMA/AWS i.e. their 3G bands were 1700mhz down link and 2100mhz uplink. Although they did have quad band 2G i.e. GSM 850/900/1800/1900.
So if in Argentina they are using 3G frequencies 850mhz down link 1900mhz uplink then the xt720 will never get 3G HSPA, phones from the following carriers will work Telstra NextG phones (Australian), Rogers (Canadian), Bell New 3G (Canadian), Telus New 3G (Canadian), and AT&T (USA).
Hope this helps.
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Thanks, I didn't know the specifics off the top of my head, I just knew it wasn't going to work.

[Q] [Noob question] Frequency bands

I work for Tmous retail sales and we have never really been taught anything about bands. Ive been pretty curious myself since some customers come into the store with AT&t phones asking about tmo service. I have been instructed (by a fellow retail associate) to tell them that no At&t phone will ever have 3G on tmo ( I assume thats just the safe answer though).
real question!
in terms of 3G/4G (hspa+) what bands does tmous use?
same question for AT&t.
To tie that together. ex: If a phone from At&t hypothetically has capabilities to use the same bands as tmous and is unlocked, can it get 3G/4G service on tmous?
i did search around and didnt find a very clear answer so i figured i'd start a thread, im sure other noobs have the same question.

T-Mobile uses 1700 2100 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
AT&T uses 850 and 1900 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
Yes if a phone has all those bands for 3G, and it's SIM unlocked you can get 3G on other cell company.
The T-Mobile Vibrant actually has those AT&T bands too, if you SIM unlock the Vibrant, you can get 3G on AT&T.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/08/22/samsung-galaxy-unlockable-tmobile-vibrant-supports-att-3g/
It's very rare to see a phone that supports both T-Mobile and AT&T 3G bands.

nxt said:
T-Mobile uses 1700 2100 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
AT&T uses 850 and 1900 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
Yes if a phone has all those bands for 3G, and it's SIM unlocked you can get 3G on other cell company.
It's very rare to see a phone that supports both T-Mobile and AT&T 3G bands.
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Thanks for the clarification. In hopes that im not being a further nuisance, I was wondering, what about a phone that has 1 of the matching bands?
T-Mobile USA is using the 1700/2100 Mhz bands for 3G (UMTS)
T-Mobile Germany uses 1900/2100 Mhz for 3G (UMTS)
If you couldnt tell, im considering buying an iPhone (to develop on for fun). Will a phone that uses 2100 Mhz only be usable on USA towers (for 3G service)?

DrewMullen said:
Will a phone that uses 2100 Mhz only be usable on USA towers (for 3G service)?
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No it will not get 3G

[Q] G2 not capable of LTE?

How can this phone G2 D801, support LTE band IV and 17 without those frequencies, of 700Mhz and 1700Mhz?
It it only a HSPA+ (4G) phone?

The specs list frequencies for GSM / WCDMA and bands for LTE. D801 has bands 2, 4 and 17, so 1900, 1700/2100 and 700MHz. When scanning for networks I see AT&T, T-Mobile, former Metro PCS, and Verizon LTE networks.

hi
its unlock or lock?

I have lte
Sent from my LG-D801 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

This g2 is capable of LTE, although it is going to use allot of battery.

Model N915W8 from Rogers, is it wind/mobilicity compatible??

I have a Samsung Note Edge model N915W8 I recently got it unlocked from Rogers but when I try to activate it on wind mobile the phone picks up as roaming based on the specs it should be AWS compatible anyone have their N915W8 running on wind or mobilicity?

Model n915w8 does not work with aws

That's weird since the specs say otherwise. I was hoping it was just a software thing blocking the baseband similar to the s4

the1nonly214 said:
That's weird since the specs say otherwise. I was hoping it was just a software thing blocking the baseband similar to the s4
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Actually, unlike Note 4 N910W8, Note Edge N915W8 does NOT have 3G AWS band needed for Wind/Mobility.
3g umts(w-cdma) frequency: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
4g lte(lte-a) frequency: 700, 850, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2600 MHz
It does, however, have the AWS band (1700) for LTE. In theory, it should work once Wind gets LTE next year.

That was probably where I was erroneous with my thinking I saw the 1700 band but it was for lte not 3G thank you for the clarification your help is much appreciated

Physically have tested 3 units and none of them work.... I don't have the Platinum balls to drop the Qcn from N915T on N915W8.... it can cause major issues with network... also the Stock Rom is not up for N915W8 as well....

I can vouch that the n915t from T-mobile works on T-mobile (obviously), ROGERS LTE, Bell (Telus) LTE, Fido LTE, and WIND (no LTE but that other poster said they are getting it next year). I tell my friends get a T-mobile phone and unlock it since T-mobile has both sets of frequencies.
the1nonly214 said:
That was probably where I was erroneous with my thinking I saw the 1700 band but it was for lte not 3G thank you for the clarification your help is much appreciated
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spiderlily said:
Actually, unlike Note 4 N910W8, Note Edge N915W8 does NOT have 3G AWS band needed for Wind/Mobility.
3g umts(w-cdma) frequency: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
4g lte(lte-a) frequency: 700, 850, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2600 MHz
It does, however, have the AWS band (1700) for LTE. In theory, it should work once Wind gets LTE next year.
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I checked both Rogers and Bell, both indicated that there's AWS (3G) bandwidth which makes the Edge should work with Wind. It could be the APN settings need some changes to it

hpacura said:
I checked both Rogers and Bell, both indicated that there's AWS (3G) bandwidth which makes the Edge should work with Wind. It could be the APN settings need some changes to it[/QUOTE
I am facing the same problem
as just bought the phone but it is not working on wind
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hi
just surfing found below
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f71...qcn-files-done-asansambox-1880112/index3.html
"As always Here is a Modified QCN that I made for the Galaxy Note EDGE [SM-N915T Tmobile USA]
I edit the IMEI address so you wont have issues with it ....
SM-N915T_MPSS.DI.3.0.c5-00294-M9625TAARANAZM-1.6549.1_18-12-2014_15-13-18001
can some one guide to install in the phone
and is it is safe use

windmobile samsung galaxy note edge.
did you buy the phone outright? where did you get it from? did you try to change the apn in settings. heres a site with all the info for windmobile.
apn-canada.gishan(dot net)/settings/834_8_wind_apn_settings_for_samsung_galaxy_note_edge.php
Please do me one favor answer the questions here and let me know if it worked or if you found or find a way to make it work. i lost my phone so im paying for wind bill with no phone. i love the note so i was going to buy the note edge but theres no store that sells just the phone tied to no carrier. let me know if you know a place where i can get the phone that is unlocked to all modes. i know some phones have it. thanks please email me and add the post here to [email protected]
just take out this (dot net) for .net

Does the N915W8 work with freedom mobile now?

Which Int'l Model For Canada ... SM-N975F/DS or SM-N9750

Hi All,
Considering getting a Note 10+, 512 GB, 12 GB RAM in Aura Flow Colour.
I am in Canada, and I don't like the local models here. I am playing to buy international model via eBay (from a trusted seller from before when I obtained Note 8 and Note 9), pdaplaza or wondamobile
I do need Dual-SIM (for work / personal).
But recently it appears that the Snapdragon chipset: 855 in Model (SM-N9750) has been "coming on top" of the Samsung's Exynos 9825 chipset found in SM-N975F/DS, even there an article published for the S10+ comparison on XDA.
Therefore, aside from obtaining root (I really don't need it), in terms of software / security updates + patches - what's the trend like?
Only reason I am considering the SM-N9750 - because it has the Snap chip, it would have support for most if not all bands of LTE in Canada used by Rogers, Bell and Telus.
I am on Rogers by the way.
Any suggestions or comments would be nice.
Thanks!

karthigan said:
Hi All,
Considering getting a Note 10+, 512 GB, 12 GB RAM in Aura Flow Colour.
I am in Canada, and I don't like the local models here. I am playing to buy international model via eBay (from a trusted seller from before when I obtained Note 8 and Note 9), pdaplaza or wondamobile
I do need Dual-SIM (for work / personal).
But recently it appears that the Snapdragon chipset: 855 in Model (SM-N9750) has been "coming on top" of the Samsung's Exynos 9825 chipset found in SM-N975F/DS, even there an article published for the S10+ comparison on XDA.
Therefore, aside from obtaining root (I really don't need it), in terms of software / security updates + patches - what's the trend like?
Only reason I am considering the SM-N9750 - because it has the Snap chip, it would have support for most if not all bands of LTE in Canada used by Rogers, Bell and Telus.
I am on Rogers by the way.
Any suggestions or comments would be nice.
Thanks!
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Im pretty sure that the differences between the chipsets wil be too small to notice.
And which chipset will canada receive btw?

JamesYoutt said:
Im pretty sure that the differences between the chipsets wil be too small to notice.
And which chipset will canada receive btw?
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Canada, for its wireless carriers is getting the Snapdragon variant. But in Canada, we do not have Dual Sim. That's why I need to go to the international versions.

karthigan said:
Canada, for its wireless carriers is getting the Snapdragon variant. But in Canada, we do not have Dual Sim. That's why I need to go to the international versions.
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Dont the international versions incorporate the exynos chipset anyways?

JamesYoutt said:
Dont the international versions incorporate the exynos chipset anyways?
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This is where I need clarification - the true international version I believe is based on Exynos Chipset released by Samsung and not the Snapdragon.
But Samsung has been very quiet about their chipset in comparison to the Snapdragon.
For different markets, due to the LTE bandwidth channels support, Snapdragon variant is used. instead f Exynos. Not sure why Samsung just doesn't support all bandwidth channels across the entire world.
I just need to know, if this time around, if I get the Snapdragon variant with Dual Sim (SM-N9750), would the device gets software updates + security patches slower or not fast as / not much as the Exynos variant.
So, hoping someone can clear it up, if I should go with Exynos or Snapdragon Dual-Sim variant.
Thanks!

karthigan said:
This is where I need clarification - the true international version I believe is based on Exynos Chipset released by Samsung and not the Snapdragon.
But Samsung has been very quiet about their chipset in comparison to the Snapdragon.
For different markets, due to the LTE bandwidth channels support, Snapdragon variant is used. instead f Exynos. Not sure why Samsung just doesn't support all bandwidth channels across the entire world.
I just need to know, if this time around, if I get the Snapdragon variant with Dual Sim (SM-N9750), would the device gets software updates + security patches slower or not fast as / not much as the Exynos variant.
So, hoping someone can clear it up, if I should go with Exynos or Snapdragon Dual-Sim variant.
Thanks!
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There are some benchmarking results available now for the Exynos chip.

JamesYoutt said:
Dont the international versions incorporate the exynos chipset anyways?
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Sort of.
EU, UK, asia and some middle eastern countries get exynos.
Hk, china and latin America get snapdragons but without the crappy locked bootloader than north america gets and dual sim capabilities.
Its been this way for a few years
Also keep in mind especially on rogers that any android device that isnt Rogers branded will lose some features.
Wifi calling and voLTE to name 2.
Also samsung pay will not work out of the box either at least on exynos.
Not sure which would get faster updates but ive had alot of exynos devices and they are quick to get updates

force70 said:
Sort of.
EU, UK, asia and some middle eastern countries get exynos.
Hk, china and latin America get snapdragons but without the crappy locked bootloader than north america gets and dual sim capabilities.
Its been this way for a few years
Also keep in mind especially on rogers that any android device that isnt Rogers branded will lose some features.
Wifi calling and voLTE to name 2.
Also samsung pay will not work out of the box either at least on exynos.
Not sure which would get faster updates but ive had alot of exynos devices and they are quick to get updates
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So, is the SM-N9750, which is a snapdragon variant, comes with a unlocked bootloader?
Because the North American variant, with the same snapdragon chips, does not come with unlocked bootloader.

karthigan said:
So, is the SM-N9750, which is a snapdragon variant, comes with a unlocked bootloader?
Because the North American variant, with the same snapdragon chips, does not come with unlocked bootloader.
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If past history over the last few years holds true yes that is correct.
That said it never sees the amount of development that the exynos does. I'm not even sure if the unlocked snapdragon S10 plus ever even got twrp on it.

force70 said:
If past history over the last few years holds true yes that is correct.
That said it never sees the amount of development that the exynos does. I'm not even sure if the unlocked snapdragon S10 plus ever even got twrp on it.
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Thanks force70
However, with your honest opinion and technical expertise (ignoring root & TWRP aside), for someone like me, who needs dual SIM as well as support for many of the LTE bands as possible (as I primary based in North America 90% time of the year), the SM-N9750 is better then then SM-N975F/DS?
Also, I was made aware, that if I wanted to trade-in the Note 10+ in the future, thru offical channels (Samsung, carriers in Canada), they do not accept rooted phones, I would have to explorer the other private sale venues. I doubt most people will buy a rooted phones, as their primary banking apps might fail to work with rooting. I know there are ways around it, but it might be difficult explaining to someone who is not aware of rooting terminology and benefits.
Also, I reviewed some articles about the Exynos variant under-performing compared to the Snap Dragon variant? Therefore, the SM-N9750 is better then then SM-N975F/DS...
What do you think?

karthigan said:
Thanks force70
However, with your honest opinion and technical expertise (ignoring root & TWRP aside), for someone like me, who needs dual SIM as well as support for many of the LTE bands as possible (as I primary based in North America 90% time of the year), the SM-N9750 is better then then SM-N975F/DS?
Also, I was made aware, that if I wanted to trade-in the Note 10+ in the future, thru offical channels (Samsung, carriers in Canada), they do not accept rooted phones, I would have to explorer the other private sale venues. I doubt most people will buy a rooted phones, as their primary banking apps might fail to work with rooting. I know there are ways around it, but it might be difficult explaining to someone who is not aware of rooting terminology and benefits.
Also, I reviewed some articles about the Exynos variant under-performing compared to the Snap Dragon variant? Therefore, the SM-N9750 is better then then SM-N975F/DS...
What do you think?
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You cant trade in a non north american device at all so exynos or a non north American snap wont matter in this regard.
You are 100% correct about the exynos underperforming as compared to the snap as well as getting worse battery life. So in this area the snap is definitely superior 100%

Will it possible to flash SM-N9750 with SM-N975U firmware? I'm planing to do the same and get one from Hong Kong.

majd00shka said:
Will it possible to flash SM-N9750 with SM-N975U firmware? I'm planing to do the same and get one from Hong Kong.
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No, but mentalmuso has a custom ROM with u(carrier) features.

Hi @karthigan I'm wondering if you found an answer to your question? I'm also in Canada on a Note8 DUOS - Bell and T-Mobile. I found specs on Frequency Check for the SM-N975F/DS that indicate this phone will work on both carriers, but they don't have specs for the SM-99750/DS model - which has different bands - and I am also wondering about the Exynos vs. Snapdragon.
Did you, or anyone else have any definitive comparison/answer on this?

LostinCanada said:
Hi @karthigan I'm wondering if you found an answer to your question? I'm also in Canada on a Note8 DUOS - Bell and T-Mobile. I found specs on Frequency Check for the SM-N975F/DS that indicate this phone will work on both carriers, but they don't have specs for the SM-99750/DS model - which has different bands - and I am also wondering about the Exynos vs. Snapdragon.
Did you, or anyone else have any definitive comparison/answer on this?
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Hi,
I ended up getting SM-N9750 model.
My personal SIM is with Rogers and my business SIM is with Bell.
I have VOLTE & Wi-Fi calling working with Bell, however, it does not work with Rogers, as Rogers does not activate VOLTE or Wi-Fi Calling on external purchased (non-Rogers) phones.
So far, the signal strength always displays 4G+ for both of my SIMs - which I am presuming it is the same as LTE or LTE+ (otherwise known as LTE-A)
If you are talking about bands, here it is for the SM-N9750:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM)
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(850), B28(700)
TDD B34(2010), B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500)
For me, Rogers: which uses GSM and UMTS on 850 MHz (Band 5) and 1900 MHz (Band 2), and LTE on 700 MHz (Band 12/17), 1900 MHz (Band 2), 2600 MHz (Band 7), and 1700/2100 MHz AWS (Band 4)
&
Bell needs: B2 (1900), B5 (850), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B7 (2600)
Therefore, with the exception of Band 17 for Rogers, which is not supported by SM-N9750.
I am getting between 75 Mbps - 150 Mbps , which varies from location to location, building to building, basement to basement (which is worse, which is expected), etc.
I am happy with it overall.

Hi @karthigan - thank you for your prompt reply, and feedback! Are those specs off the box (or other official source)? I even tried that model without the /DS at the end and it's not listed on https://www.frequencycheck.com/ but maybe they will add it. I'm going to email them. The 975 F/DS model does pop up and give 100% T-Mobile compatibility but Bell shows 80% for the LTE - screenshots attached. I'm still interesting in comparing.
Do you have a link to the article you referred to in your OP re comparing these two models on XDA? I'd be interested to read that thread.
Thanks!
Also was the 9750 DUOS available in several colours? And did you buy it off Ebay? I almost bought my last Note 8 DUOS off of Ebay from a "trusted seller" but found they were selling the Hong Kong Snapadragon version, not the Exynos version. Thankfully I was able to call them out on it and get a refund before the phone shipped.
Finally, was there any issue with region locking on that phone you bought? Did you buy it from a seller that opened it before shipping or did it simply just not have this problem?
LOL I think that's it for now...

@karthigan, thank you so much for your report. You said you got between 75 Mbps - 150 Mbps. Is it with Bell or with Rogers? If it was with Rogers, what was the number for using Bell? I just notice that SM-N9750 doesn't support band B29 unlike the Canadian version. I am wondering how much of that will affect LTE-A carrier aggregration (CA) when using Bell. Can someone comment on this? Thanks!

karthigan said:
Hi,
I ended up getting SM-N9750 model.
My personal SIM is with Rogers and my business SIM is with Bell.
I have VOLTE & Wi-Fi calling working with Bell, however, it does not work with Rogers, as Rogers does not activate VOLTE or Wi-Fi Calling on external purchased (non-Rogers) phones.
So far, the signal strength always displays 4G+ for both of my SIMs - which I am presuming it is the same as LTE or LTE+ (otherwise known as LTE-A)
If you are talking about bands, here it is for the SM-N9750:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM)
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(850), B28(700)
TDD B34(2010), B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500)
For me, Rogers: which uses GSM and UMTS on 850 MHz (Band 5) and 1900 MHz (Band 2), and LTE on 700 MHz (Band 12/17), 1900 MHz (Band 2), 2600 MHz (Band 7), and 1700/2100 MHz AWS (Band 4)
&
Bell needs: B2 (1900), B5 (850), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B7 (2600)
Therefore, with the exception of Band 17 for Rogers, which is not supported by SM-N9750.
I am getting between 75 Mbps - 150 Mbps , which varies from location to location, building to building, basement to basement (which is worse, which is expected), etc.
I am happy with it overall.
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I can confirm that the version you have bought is not compatible with Freedom mobile. You can text and use data but cannot make and receive calls. I just bought this model.

Hi everyone, thank you for this thread, has been very informative. I always use the dual sim versions of samsung and the time arrived to exchange my note 8 SM-N950F. I am in Canada and the website will my phone work displays for both models that 2G will not work, in your opinion can this be a problem?
Thanks in advance

karthigan said:
Hi,
I ended up getting SM-N9750 model.
My personal SIM is with Rogers and my business SIM is with Bell.
I have VOLTE & Wi-Fi calling working with Bell, however, it does not work with Rogers, as Rogers does not activate VOLTE or Wi-Fi Calling on external purchased (non-Rogers) phones.
So far, the signal strength always displays 4G+ for both of my SIMs - which I am presuming it is the same as LTE or LTE+ (otherwise known as LTE-A)
If you are talking about bands, here it is for the SM-N9750:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM)
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(850), B28(700)
TDD B34(2010), B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500)
For me, Rogers: which uses GSM and UMTS on 850 MHz (Band 5) and 1900 MHz (Band 2), and LTE on 700 MHz (Band 12/17), 1900 MHz (Band 2), 2600 MHz (Band 7), and 1700/2100 MHz AWS (Band 4)
&
Bell needs: B2 (1900), B5 (850), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B7 (2600)
Therefore, with the exception of Band 17 for Rogers, which is not supported by SM-N9750.
I am getting between 75 Mbps - 150 Mbps , which varies from location to location, building to building, basement to basement (which is worse, which is expected), etc.
I am happy with it overall.
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Hi even im planning to get the SM-N9750/DS which is the snapdragon dual sim Note 10. It is the model from Taiwan I believe. Can you confirm if Samsung Pay is working on your phone? Because that's all I care about. I don't want to root my phone. Just want a dual sim snapdragon. This is my best option. But Samsung Pay is important to me.