hi, im new to XDA. but does anyone here know if an unlocked TMobile HTC Amaze will work on ATT's 3g/4g network???
Please reply if you have any insight on this subject matter, thanks!!
Nope, tmobile bands are different from at&ts 3g/4g bands. I heard telus is getting it too and that one will work with at&t 3g/4g
walkinhotdog said:
Nope, tmobile bands are different from at&ts 3g/4g bands. I heard telus is getting it too and that one will work with at&t 3g/4g
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thanks for the info. so, Tmobiles hspa+ band is different from att's hspa+ band??
Can someone please confirm with an unlocked unit?
ljwnow said:
Can someone please confirm with an unlocked unit?
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I have an unlocked Amaze, and while you can insert an At&t 4g sim, it will not get any of the HSD**, it will only lock on 2G...very ssslllooowwww. Voice, not a problem, but the phone comes with T-Mobile data radio. I inserted my at&t SGSII sim.I even added all known APNs for at&t 3g/4g, nope...don't work
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DMX804 said:
thanks for the info. so, Tmobiles hspa+ band is different from att's hspa+ band??
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T-Mobile USA High Speed data bands: 1700 MHz/2100 MHz UMTS AWS
At&t High Speed data bands: 850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G 1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G 700 MHz LTE 4G
They are different.
SOURCE: Wikipedia/Google
Hope this helps
Check the amaze forums
There is a thread on this in the htc amaze forum, they say it may be compatible. Also the box says that it carries the bands for at&t. Check out the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300714
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The operating frequencies on the HTC Amaze 4G are
GSM (2G)
850 Cellular Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
900 Europe, Asia, Africa
1800 DCS Europe, Asia, Africa
1900 PCS Americas
WCDMA / HSPA+ 42 (3G / 4G)
850 Cellular / band 5 (V) Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
1700 AWS / band 4 (IV) Americas
1900 PCS / band 2 (II) Americas
2100 IMT / band 1 (I) Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania, Brazil, India, Israel
ATT operates in the US on:
2G: 850 MHz, 1900 MHz
3G: 850 MHz, 1900 MHz
4G: 700 MHz, 1700/2100 MHz
That is how you were supposed to answer a topic. Not assuming things you don't know nothing about just because you feel your gut tells you so.
Hi,
I have a 6653 bought in India that I use here. I'm going to be in the US for a couple weeks later this month and wanted to know which carrier should I get a prepaid card for. Which carrier would support LTE on this device?
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golemagg said:
Hi,
I have a 6653 bought in India that I use here. I'm going to be in the US for a couple weeks later this month and wanted to know which carrier should I get a prepaid card for. Which carrier would support LTE on this device?
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airtel it support 2300 MHz LTE (Band 40)
I am asking about which carrier in the US will the 6653 work on with LTE.
Sorry if I wasn't clear in my original post.
I think you will be fine on 3G its still pretty fast. I get 15-16 Mbps Down and 2-3 Mbps up on 3G in Minneapolis. LTE is obviously faster for me 42 Mbps Up and 10 Mbps Down but I doubt you would really notice in regular use....
D6653: LTE2100 (B1), LTE850 (B5), LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE900 (B8), TD-LTE2300 (B40), LTE700 (B28)
It will work on T-Mobile and AT&T and the other smaller GSM carriers perfectly on 2G/3G but you will be missing bands for LTE.
T-Mobile: for LTE uses Band 2 (1900Mhz), Band 4 (1700/2100Mhz), Band 12 (700 Mhz)
AT&T: for LTE uses Band 17 (700Mhz), Band 5 (850Mhz), Band 2 (1900Mhz), Band 4 (1700/2100Mhz).
US Cellular: for LTE uses Band 5 (850Mhz), Band 12 (700 Mhz)
You only have Band 5 and there is no garuntee that the listed carriers will have that band deployed in the area you will be in.
Also remeber you can have different band numbers for the same Mhz spectrum because companies can use different parts of it.
Sources:
Worldwide LTE Band deployment, detailed by country and network:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
PDAdb is one of the best specs Site.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=6724&c=sony_xperia_z3_td-lte_d6653_sony_pegasus
GSMArena is the best for reviews
http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3-6539.php
Hi,
my name is Andrea and first of all thanks to give me your attention.
I'm in europe, italy, and was watching Z3 model d6683, it's for chinese market i guess, particular version of dual sim model. Now, i've two sim, the operator is "3 italia", and its signal is from 3g to 4g (if the area is covered by 2g signal only, i go in roaming signal, and can't surf etc). Now, i'm looking for a dual sim phone, and both sim have to get at least 3g signal at the same time. I'm not asking to surf with both sim at the same time, and i'm not asking "dual active", not interested if when i call, the other sim goes airplane mode. I'm asking if Sony Xperia Z3 model d6683 has two sim can get both at least in 3g mode during standby and always in general, cause i surf with one sim, i call with the other one, but this last don't want to go roaming all the time. Hope it's clear.
I can get this particular model because an Eshop has it online, but first need to know this problem.
Hope it can, and battery can last in any case.
Or if you know some other phones...
Thanks
None has it?
Help please, if you know this model can do what im looking for, or just another phone..
Thanks
Bro i also have D6683 in which one sim will work as 4G and other as 2G.
Hope i have helped you
niks20 said:
Bro i also have D6683 in which one sim will work as 4G and other as 2G.
Hope i have helped you
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So the second one can't get higher than 2g? Are you sure, could be the operator..or is just the phone? And if you put sim 1 to 3g, the second always max 2g?
Thanks a lot, some people told me this phone could be the only one to do what i'm looking for, but i guess it doesn't exist.
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So the second one can't get higher than 2g? Are you sure, could be the operator..or is just the phone? And if you put sim 1 to 3g, the second always max 2g?
Thanks a lot, some people told me this phone could be the only one to do what i'm looking for, but i guess it doesn't exist.
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D6683 is designed specifically for the Chinese market. It uses bands that are incompatible with rest of the world, therefore, it would be mostly useless anywhere else.
The following is from xperiablog.net:
Sony Xperia Z3 Dual TD (D6683) network support
– Dual SIM version which supports TD-LTE in China
– 4G FDD LTE: Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
– 4G TD-LTE: Band 28 (2600 CMCC),Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
czguy said:
D6683 is designed specifically for the Chinese market. It uses bands that are incompatible with rest of the world, therefore, it would be mostly useless anywhere else.
Following is from xperiablog.net
Sony Xperia Z3 Dual TD (D6683) network support
– Dual SIM version which supports TD-LTE in China
– 4G FDD LTE: Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
– 4G TD-LTE: Band 28 (2600 CMCC),Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
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Fdd are here in europe, my operator cover 1800 and 2600 lte. Maybe Tdd too.
But could be enough the fact to support just 3g, but the important would be both sim can get up to that at the same time. I'm just asking this.
|Renovatio| said:
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Fdd are here in europe, my operator cover 1800 and 2600 lte. Maybe Tdd too.
But could be enough the fact to support just 3g, but the important would be both sim can get up to that at the same time. I'm just asking this.
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The only way to make sure is to test it. When I went to China last month my Z3 Dual worked nicely on Unicom's 2600 band. The first time I've read about D6683, I've got really excited until I've found out that it does not support bands used on North American continent wich makes is useless as a world phone to me. If you plan to use it in Europe only, there is a chance that it will work for you. I was not able to find out what 3G bands D6683 supports because the situation there is quite messy. Chinese 3G network is 80% incompatible for rest of the world, the only network that works with foreign phones is Unicom. It's very similar in Japan as well. Understanding that this phone is targeted for the Chinese market, I am pretty sure that it would be useless in North America (and most likely in Europe as well) on 3G bands. Luckily, with the proliferation of LTE networks while 2G is being slowly phased out, we are going to see more phones supporting simultaneous LTE on both SIMs soon.
czguy said:
The only way to make sure is to test it. When I went to China last month my Z3 Dual worked nicely on Unicom's 2600 band. The first time I've read about D6683, I've got really excited until I've found out that it does not support bands used on North American continent wich makes is useless as a world phone to me. If you plan to use it in Europe only, there is a chance that it will work for you. I was not able to find out what 3G bands D6683 supports because the situation there is quite messy. Chinese 3G network is 80% incompatible for rest of the world, the only network that works with foreign phones is Unicom. It's very similar in Japan as well. Understanding that this phone is targeted for the Chinese market, I am pretty sure that it would be useless in North America (and most likely in Europe as well) on 3G bands. Luckily, with the proliferation of LTE networks while 2G is being slowly phased out, we are going to see more phones supporting simultaneous LTE on both SIMs soon.
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Of course stay in Europe lol.
But i do not care the fact could not work here, as the fact I want it to support 3g at least at same time.
I guess user niks answerd the question, but i asked to check a few things via mp. But probaly he's right, the phone could show if, after you set connection on sim 1, could support 3g signal on second one. It's impossibile, i have to admit
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Of course stay in Europe lol.
But i do not care the fact could not work here, as the fact I want it to support 3g at least at same time.
I guess user niks answerd the question, but i asked to check a few things via mp. But probaly he's right, the phone could show if, after you set connection on sim 1, could support 3g signal on second one. It's impossibile, i have to admit
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This is what I was able to find out about D6683 and band support for 3G slightly differs based on where you look:
2G/Voice Bands 850/900/1800/1900
3G/HSPA Bands 850/900/1700/1900
LTE Bands 1/3/7/38/39/40/41
http://www.expansys.ca/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-unlocked-lte-16gb-copper-278237/
2G GSM
3G WCDMA 850 + 900 + 2100
4G TDD LTE B38 + B40
4G FDD LTE B3 + B7
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/intro/5146/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td/
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network FDD LTE : Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
TD-LTE : Band 28 (2600 CMCC), Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
http://supero.co.nz/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-16gb-lte-black/
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
TD-LTE (Band 38, 39, 40, 41) FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 7)
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-D6683-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00YDIEC9A
czguy said:
This is what I was able to find out about D6683 and band support for 3G slightly differs based on where you look:
2G/Voice Bands 850/900/1800/1900
3G/HSPA Bands 850/900/1700/1900
LTE Bands 1/3/7/38/39/40/41
http://www.expansys.ca/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-unlocked-lte-16gb-copper-278237/
2G GSM
3G WCDMA 850 + 900 + 2100
4G TDD LTE B38 + B40
4G FDD LTE B3 + B7
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/intro/5146/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td/
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network FDD LTE : Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
TD-LTE : Band 28 (2600 CMCC), Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
http://supero.co.nz/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-16gb-lte-black/
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
TD-LTE (Band 38, 39, 40, 41) FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 7)
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-D6683-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00YDIEC9A
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Thank you. Maybe we re not understanding each other.
I think it can support 3g and even 4g here. My question is when one sim is on 3g/4g,the other one goes 3g? Not to connect data to surf, just about quality, frequency.. at least..
I'm looking one phone it can do it. Seems does not exist.
|Renovatio| said:
Thank you. Maybe we re not understanding each other.
I think it can support 3g and even 4g here. My question is when one sim is on 3g/4g,the other one goes 3g? Not to connect data to surf, just about quality, frequency.. at least..
I'm looking one phone it can do it. Seems does not exist.
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I do understand what you mean. It would have to be tested, however, there is a very good chance that it might since D6683 can simultaneously run on LTE bands using both SIMs which no Z3 Dual (D6633) can do. Most of the networks in Canada where I live use 3G for voice (same in Australia) and regular Z3 Dual is useless in such scenario, however, there is a chance it would work fine with D6683 which would become a dual SIM phone to go to except LTE bands.
Hope it can. Maybe will buy one to test it,directly.
Ok, Sony America and Sony China say it can't, as user niks wrote.
A Shop wrote on the sony z3 product crearly it can.
Will write to that Shop and to sony hong kong for the last time.
I don't know where to find my D6683 stock rom HELPPPP...!!!
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Have to swap my SM-G930T for a SM-G930P (Sprint).
Using it on Yoigo in Spain, which uses B3 for LTE, B1 for UTMS, and 1800 (DCS) for 3G.
Looks like the Sprint version does NOT support LTE Band 3, so I will only have 3G (HSPA+, right?)
So Am I going to get much slower speeds with 3G? And is there a way to enable Band 3 on the Sprint version?
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Have to swap my SM-G930T for a SM-G930P (Sprint).
Using it on Yoigo in Spain, which uses B3 for LTE, B1 for UTMS, and 1800 (DCS) for 3G.
Looks like the Sprint version does NOT support LTE Band 3, so I will only have 3G (HSPA+, right?)
So Am I going to get much slower speeds with 3G? And is there a way to enable Band 3 on the Sprint version?
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Bump? Anyone?
That depends on your wireless service provider if he has limited your bandwidth. With 3G + (H +) are up to 42Mbit downstream and 5 Mbps upload speed possible. Whether the Band 3 can be unlocked is hard to say if it is supported by the hardware probably
Hi-TechUp said:
That depends on your wireless service provider if he has limited your bandwidth. With 3G + (H +) are up to 42Mbit downstream and 5 Mbps upload speed possible. Whether the Band 3 can be unlocked is hard to say if it is supported by the hardware probably
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But 4G is theoretically faster right? Especially upload
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But 4G is theoretically faster right? Especially upload
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With LTE (4G) go down speeds up to 225 Mbit and 50Mbit up if your carrier supports and provides your contract no limit bandwidth
My carrier's 4G LTE network operates with the frequency bands 800 and 2600 Mhz (LTE bands 7 and 20), would the US unlocked version support them?
On the US U11 HTC webpage, this is listed:
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-u11/
HTC U11 Unlocked Band Support
AT&T Unlocked:
2G-GSM: (850/900/1800/1900)
3G UMTS: 900/850AWS/1900/2100 (1/2/4/5/8)
4G LTE
FDD: Bands B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B20/B25/B26/B28/B66
TDD: Bands B41
With 2CA, 3CA
Sprint:
2G-GSM: (850/900/1800/1900)
3G UMTS: 900/850/AWS/1900/2100 (1/2/4/5/8); CDMA Band Class 0/1/10
4G LTE
FDD: Bands B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B12/B13/B25/B26
TDD: Bands B41
With 2CA, 3CA and 4x4 MIMO
VoLTE & VoWiFi calling
T-Mobile Unlocked:
2G-GSM: (850/900/1800/1900)
3G UMTS: 900/850/AWS/1900/2100 (1/2/4/5/8)
4G LTE
FDD: Bands B1/B2B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B20/B25/B26/B28/B66
TDD: Bands B41
With 2CA, 3CA
VoLTE & VoWiFi calling
Verizon Unlocked:
2G-GSM: (850/900/1800/1900)
3G UMTS: 900/850/1900/2100 (1/2/5/8)
4G LTE
FDD: Bands B13
VoLTE calling
Are the B7 & B20 bands same as normal 7 & 20 bands?
They are the same, so you are good.