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[Q] Stolen Intelligence

I have a samsung Galaxy SII that was literally detached from the AT&T store security device. I am now in possession of it. I want to clean the phone so that it cannot be tracked. Can someone help me accomplish this? Grazie,
TCSK

Ok..but how will you clean the phone..The IMEI cannot be cleaned , So the phone can be tracked..

oh. ok. I should've mentioned that i don't know much about devices of this sort. So there is no way to keep the phone, then?

So let me get this straight.
You are in possession of a stolen device and are looking to us to aid and abet your crime?
You do realize that your post gives us your ip address, approximate location, e-mail address, etc?
You also realize that by posting this you admitted guilt of your crime?
Good luck buddy.

Very well, and so I retract my previous statement. I have since incinerated the phone.

thecoughsyrupkid said:
Very well, and so I retract my previous statement. I have since incinerated the phone.
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LOL! Right... and I was born yesterday and and elected as the almighty donut king of Nebraska.

not what xdas about!!!!
thecoughsyrupkid u been warned! thread will be closed
*XDA does not condone theft of ANY type

This is kinda funny... hope coughsyrupkid is kidding. Possession of stolen property is a crime in most areas.

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This is kinda funny... hope coughsyrupkid is kidding. Possession of stolen property is a crime in most areas.
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Name one area that it's not.
Why isn't this thread closed?

Some require knowledge that the property was stolen.
Also, there are a great many places on the planet that are pretty lawless.
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Binary100100 said:
Why isn't this thread closed?
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i reported it a while ago....

sounds like he knows it is stolen.

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Some require knowledge that the property was stolen.
Also, there are a great many places on the planet that are pretty lawless.
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He's in the United States.
Where in the United States is it legal to have possession of stolen property?
rancur3p1c said:
sounds like he knows it is stolen.
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Which is why he's posting here in the first place. It was "detached from an AT&T security device" and wants to know "how to clean the phone so it cannot be tracked."
Even if he wasn't the one that actually stole it... being in willful possession of stolen property is against the law in the United States.
Anyone here that assists him in his crime is also guilty.

Thread closed, pm sent to the OP!

[Q] IMEI numbers matching phone and box?

Long story short.. I sold a phone on eBay with the original box. However, the phone was replaced twice due to sleep death issues. So it turns out that the phone I had sold IMEI number was different then that of the original sticker on the box. This is normal as when you replace a phone, they don't send you a whole new box, they just give you a new phone.
So my question is.. why would a buyer make a big deal about the box's IMEI number not matching the phone's IMEI number? I can only think that he's trying to re-sell it somehow to make a profit, but can't because the numbers don't match.
His reason is "because customs won't allow phones into Europe without the original box with IMEI numbers matching". Riiiiiiight
Anyone care to speculate? Thanks.

So basically, the buyer is saying customs will take apart the packaging to check the IMEI, and take the phone out to check the IMEI on the back of it? Plus, what about phones that weren't shipped with their original boxes?
The buyer is obviously lying/bsing.

jianC said:
So basically, the buyer is saying customs will take apart the packaging to check the IMEI, and take the phone out to check the IMEI on the back of it? Plus, what about phones that weren't shipped with their original boxes?
The buyer is obviously lying/bsing.
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Exactly. He said he was speaking with the airport and they would charge $30-$40 dollars to get some "copies" of proof of ownership so he wants to be compensated for this in a partial refund. When I asked him for the number to this airport so I could verify this obvious bs story myself.. he all of a sudden had to ask his friend for the number and would get back to me. And still hasn't 5 hours later.
Obviously, he's trying to do something dodgy here and wants to be compensated $30-40 for something that he screwed up on by not making sure the IMEI numbers match beforehand. I just can't figure out what.

if i were the buyer, and all that's true, i'd be saying to myself, 'dang i guess i shoulda checked on this intl shipping stuff first..."
just my own thoughts on the matter though...
i wouldnt expect every seller, especially a person, selling his own phone to know every countries or airports shipping procedures...

Since you said Ebay: I take it this is outside the return period (if you had one/stated no returns). Assuming the buyer is reputable himself: I'd ask for documented proof. Paypal would require this as well so you're just saying him the time before Paypal asks him the same thing. Cause yeah: this is sketchy.

B-Naughty said:
if i were the buyer, and all that's true, i'd be saying to myself, 'dang i guess i shoulda checked on this intl shipping stuff first..."
just my own thoughts on the matter though...
i wouldnt expect every seller, especially a person, selling his own phone to know every countries or airports shipping procedures...
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Very true, although I don't claim to be an expert on such matters.. from what I understand.. customs doesn't actually open and physically inspect packages unless there's something really abnormal/illegal looking on the package. Imagine if customs actually physically inspected every single package that went through Europe on a daily basis. Not at all plausible.
But that really doesn't even matter in this case as he stated that he, himself, was going to Europe with the phone which made this all so much more bs-worthy.
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Since you said Ebay: I take it this is outside the return period (if you had one/stated no returns). Assuming the buyer is reputable himself: I'd ask for documented proof. Paypal would require this as well so you're just saying him the time before Paypal asks him the same thing. Cause yeah: this is sketchy.
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I did state no returns and yeah I was going to ask him for proof.. but I figured it would be needed anyway if he files a dispute, so I just left that be. I just told him that I'm sorry he didn't verify this all before purchasing as if it was that critical to the sale, he should have made sure before purchasing. I also told him that I could not help any further as the phone works exactly as it should and his only problem is mis-matched IMEI numbers. Definitely sketchy.

J0ESK0 said:
Very true, although I don't claim to be an expert on such matters.. from what I understand.. customs doesn't actually open and physically inspect packages unless there's something really abnormal/illegal looking on the package. Imagine if customs actually physically inspected every single package that went through Europe on a daily basis. Not at all plausible.
But that really doesn't even matter in this case as he stated that he, himself, was going to Europe with the phone which made this all so much more bs-worthy.
I did state no returns and yeah I was going to ask him for proof.. but I figured it would be needed anyway if he files a dispute, so I just left that be. I just told him that I'm sorry he didn't verify this all before purchasing as if it was that critical to the sale, he should have made sure before purchasing. I also told him that I could not help any further as the phone works exactly as it should and his only problem is mis-matched IMEI numbers. Definitely sketchy.
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this was a US to US transaction? i thought you shipped overseas... he doesn't have a leg to stand on... no part of your transaction said anything about what you do with it afterwards... or i warranty this, yada yada... it was no returns... i would imagine your sale outlined the phone in its condition... like you said, he should've inquired about that... he's taking it with him??? tell him throw the [email protected] box away....

B-Naughty said:
i would tell him throw the [email protected] box away....
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Hahaha.. exactly my thoughts. XD And yes, US to US transaction. Then all of a sudden 2 weeks later he needs the original box to match the phone so he can bring it to Europe with him as a gift. Smh. People will make anything up when they screw up instead of just admitting they made a mistake. Oh well heh.
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Unfortunately, eBay and PayPal always side with the buyer. Even if there is a stated "no returns" policy. To make everything supposedly even, they will tell him to ship it back to you, and you will have to refund the original price plus original shipping. You will both be out a little bit. Due to you already paying once for shipping, and him for having to pay to send it back.
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Did you get any receipts or paperwork for the replacements. This may be enough if you can send him those as proof.
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austin420 said:
Unfortunately, eBay and PayPal always side with the buyer. Even if there is a stated "no returns" policy. To make everything supposedly even, they will tell him to ship it back to you, and you will have to refund the original price plus original shipping. You will both be out a little bit. Due to you already paying once for shipping, and him for having to pay to send it back.
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People have gotten around this. All the buyer has to do is do a chargeback on their CC. Dirty business.

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Bought phone from Gazelle on eBay, it was unwiped!

I just bought a phone on eBay that was unwiped and had the previous owners photos, phone numbers, and gmail still on it. I have contacted Gazelle and await their reply. It should be interesting. Is there some other authority I should contact about this?
Just a reminder, if you are giving/trading/selling your phone... WIPE IT!

What is "Gazelle" and why do you contact any "authorities" about a phone of a lazy dude?

SecUpwN said:
What is "Gazelle" and why do you contact any "authorities" about a phone of a lazy dude?
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If I am working for a bank and buy their old servers with the promise of data destruction and do not do that before reselling it wouldn't that be criminal? The Gazelle company (huge online reseller) promises that. I guess it is up to the previous owner though so I have contacted them with the info.

striker1211 said:
If I am working for a bank and buy their old servers with the promise of data destruction and do not do that before reselling it wouldn't that be criminal? The Gazelle company (huge online reseller) promises that. I guess it is up to the previous owner though so I have contacted them with the info.
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Might be, but it probably slipped through. If I were you, I'd contact the previous owner of the phone and told him - he might get much more out of that situation (not guiding anyone to sue any big company here). Please don't blackmail the previous owner of that device with the data you have from him. He might even be so nice and reward your for being so open to tell him what you discovered. Let's hope he's a good guy. Good luck!

striker1211 said:
I just bought a phone on eBay that was unwiped and had the previous owners photos, phone numbers, and gmail still on it. I have contacted Gazelle and await their reply. It should be interesting. Is there some other authority I should contact about this?
Just a reminder, if you are giving/trading/selling your phone... WIPE IT!
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isn't it the responsibility of the first owner to wipe the phone before selling it to ebay?

Just inform the prevoius owner and see if that data is of some worth to him. If not, wipe it yourself and use the fone.
SIMPLE...
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I bought a phone once and got home to find it was loaded not only with the prev owners info, contacts and accounts...but page upon page of text messages and emails arranging drug deals. Not huge stuff...but there were names, addresses, , the whole lot. Months worth.
I can't understand how the guy selling it never thought he should maybe wipe that?

WARNING: The Unlock Pros... (IMEI change scam)

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no talking about IMEI changing period.

unlock pros
Did you ever got your money refunded. Or what ever transpired here? I did mailed a device to them for imei fix, but cannot get a hold of them to see what its happening.

mazinger4 said:
Did you ever got your money refunded. Or what ever transpired here? I did mailed a device to them for imei fix, but cannot get a hold of them to see what its happening.
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i´m on the same boat, i sent a unit to get imei repareid but nobody respond about my order, the tech guy talks horrible when you try to communicate thru remote service terminal, but i´m so worried i think i lost my unit and 70 US, be aware about this people, we have to do something.

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i´m on the same boat, i sent a unit to get imei repareid but nobody respond about my order, the tech guy talks horrible when you try to communicate thru remote service terminal, but i´m so worried i think i lost my unit and 70 US, be aware about this people, we have to do something.
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The same thing happen to me...I was told I had to send my phone in and its been well over a month and i had not received my phone or are they returning my call or email......Do not do any business with them....

Ouch, this thread caught my attention. Thanks for sharing with us.
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The Unlock Pros = The Scam Pros
They've done the same thing to me. They got me to send my $900 phone in for IMEI repair after they've screwed it up remotely. They use a UPS Store mailbox as shipping address.
Once they got the phone they started ignoring my emails and phone calls. When I finally got someone with the username "Scott" one their website live chat, he was rude first and later mocked me, called me stupid, dumb and all the f words for asking about my phone.
Never do business with these guys. They are thieves and they continue to steal phones because they assume people won't waste their time and money to sue them for stealing their cell phones. At least that's what the Scott guy told me after insulting me online. Also they think or assume your phone is stolen so you won't do anything if they steal from you.
They do provide the remote unlock and IMEI repair but this is just their way to make their business look legitimate. In reality the look for opportunities to have you ship your phone in. For example they will intentionally screw up the phone then as you to ship it in.
By the way, they will show you a mail label to make you think that they'll ship your phone back to you soon. This is just a trick, Kiss your phone goodbye if you've made the mistake like me to ship your phone to these scammer.

Just so you know(no offense) but to unblacklist means to hack into the phones database. And I feel really sorry for you. Hope you get your money back.
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mazinger4 said:
Did you ever got your money refunded. Or what ever transpired here? I did mailed a device to them for imei fix, but cannot get a hold of them to see what its happening.
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chaoshunter said:
Just so you know(no offense) but to unblacklist means to hack into the phones database. And I feel really sorry for you. Hope you get your money back.
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Update:
Exactly like this scumbag told me, Paypal will not refund intangible goods. This pos "merchant ' had bragged to me about that & told me I'd never get my money back.
Paypal did refuse, at first... but they changed their minds after I sent 'em the tape of the guy they gave my money too threatening me and my kids.... (Thank goodness fro rooted phones!) I may have also mentioned that I would report them (paypal) to the Office of the Inspector General for aiding in interstate criminal this and that, extortion, etc etc.
The next day, I got an email saying Paypal had refunded my money from Paypal funds.
They did not take my money back from the Unlock Pros AFIK. The Unlock Pros is one scumbag ripoff artist using Paypal to do it.

hellcatrydr said:
Update:
Exactly like this scumbag told me, Paypal will not refund intangible goods. This pos "merchant ' had bragged to me about that & told me I'd never get my money back.
Paypal did refuse, at first... but they changed their minds after I sent 'em the tape of the guy they gave my money too threatening me and my kids.... (Thank goodness fro rooted phones!) I may have also mentioned that I would report them (paypal) to the Office of the Inspector General for aiding in interstate criminal this and that, extortion, etc etc.
The next day, I got an email saying Paypal had refunded my money from Paypal funds.
They did not take my money back from the Unlock Pros AFIK. The Unlock Pros is one scumbag ripoff artist using Paypal to do it.
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I hate scammers more then anything. Hope they get what they deserve.
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I am sorry that you got scammed, and glad you got your money back.
But on THIS site we do not discuss anything to do with IMEI changing for any reason, this includes services or hack methods.
Closing this up.

[CLOSED] Locked Note 20 Ultra

Hello, I came across this ad for a locked Note 20 Ultra. The phone is going for about 240 euros which is pretty cheap imo. There is nothing physically wrong with it but it's locked. The phone was most likely lost or stollen from the Netherlands judging by the text that it has onscreen "denne telefon er mistet". The seller said it might need logic board replacement but I would like to know if there is any way of getting it unlocked. Is there any paid service or is that phone borked for good ?

xpoisonxdartx said:
Hello, I came across this ad for a locked Note 20 Ultra. The phone is going for about 240 euros which is pretty cheap imo. There is nothing physically wrong with it but it's locked. The phone was most likely lost or stollen from the Netherlands judging by the text that it has onscreen "denne telefon er mistet". The seller said it might need logic board replacement but I would like to know if there is any way of getting it unlocked. Is there any paid service or is that phone borked for good ?
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While I appreciate your plight, XDA does not condone paid services discussions for a device that may have been stolen in order to circumvent carrier
protection implementations as per XDA Rule #9:
9. Don't get us into trouble.
Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things which will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably shouldn't do it here either. This does not mean that we agree with everything that the software piracy lobby try to impose on us. It simply means that you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with the legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users and those that write great code.
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Thread closed.
-Regards: Badger50