No more LG for me! - LG V10 General

Okay, so my G3 was my first LG Android device. That phone was great. Life WAS good until the screen started fading to black. I tried everything except replace the motherboard. I figured it's just time to upgrade instead.
Which brings my to my V10. I just got this phone on February 8, 2016 and already have a hardware failure. The freaking right mic (the mic you speak into during a call with the device up to your ear) is dead.
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There have been no major drops. The worst being a fall from my bed to a carpeted floor. All while wrapped inside an Otterbox Defender.
I know I know, any given day with the right circumstances and a minor drop could cause such an issue as this. But c'mon! My Motorola Droid X still works flawlessly after all the years.
I think I'll go back to Samsung depending on the developer support.
✌? LG. Life hasn't been all that good using your devices. Thanks to all the V10 devs and all XDA devs for your awesomeness. I solute you.
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i agree with you on the side that there is like a small developement for lg v10 so after a while we will not get the latest android versions
and on my old s4 i had the latest version
v10 is a great phone but need developement community

vip57 said:
i agree with you on the side that there is like a small developement for lg v10 so after a while we will not get the latest android versions
and on my old s4 i had the latest version
v10 is a great phone but need developement community
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Looks like they'll be sending me another V10. Since this one is going back I decided to upgrade to MM and it seems like a big improvement for this device. I did the LGBridge method and boy do I miss root already.
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Finally got my warranty replacement. I'm rooted and booted again. Let's see how long it takes before another LG hardware failure.
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OnMy2ndGP said:
Finally got my warranty replacement. I'm rooted and booted again. Let's see how long it takes before another LG hardware failure.
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Show me another phone that does everything the V10 does

melorib said:
Show me another phone that does everything the V10 does
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I hope no phones act like my last two LG devices. In my experience, I've owned Moto, Sammy and LG phones. Lg is the only brand that I've had hardware failures with. Don't get me wrong, I like my V10. It's just hard for me to call it great once the hardware takes a dump on me. Cheers.

OnMy2ndGP said:
I hope no phones act like my last two LG devices. In my experience, I've owned Moto, Sammy and LG phones. Lg is the only brand that I've had hardware failures with. Don't get me wrong, I like my V10. It's just hard for me to call it great once the hardware takes a dump on me. Cheers.
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How many complaints do you see, they sell millions...

melorib said:
How many complaints do you see, they sell millions...
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I'm not going to go back and forth with you. I've said what I feel about my experience. What part don't you get about that (rhetorical question)?
Have a great weekend. [emoji41]
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OnMy2ndGP said:
I'm not going to go back and forth with you. I've said what I feel about my experience. What part don't you get about that (rhetorical question)?
Have a great weekend. [emoji41]
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I wasn't going to reply since you have made up your mind, but then I realized the dates. I just got this phone, as well. I will be looking around for more complaints, because I still have a window to return it. I love the phone, and how has your experience been since the replacement? Hopefully it was just one isolated incident with the speaker.

poppajules said:
I wasn't going to reply since you have made up your mind, but then I realized the dates. I just got this phone, as well. I will be looking around for more complaints, because I still have a window to return it. I love the phone, and how has your experience been since the replacement? Hopefully it was just one isolated incident with the speaker.
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No worries. I hope I didn't come off sounding like a jerk.
Anyway, well so far so good with the replacement V10. It came with Marshmallow already installed. I'm so glad that there's a root method for us V10 Marshmallow folks here on XDA.
I'd say keep your V10. I could have made a big fuss to T-Mobile that I didn't want another V10. They would have gave me an option for a different device or I could have just used my Jump upgrade. I really like the V10 and so many people like it too after playing with mine. Hey even high-end exotic cars from Ferrari, Lamborghini, Mercedes, Bugatti, etc have issues but they are great machines
So......
melorib said:
Show me another phone that does everything the V10 does
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I will recant my statement. The V10 is a great device which is why I decided to replace the faulty one with another V10. Hopefully, my previous issue was isolated.
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Hello all, I had a G2 that gave me touch screen problems and was too disappointing by it to try the G3 after those hardware issues. I have been HTC all the way with no Issues.
Tried giving LG another chance with this G4 and this phone has the worst battery life and heating/lag i have ever had on a phone. With CM13, the camera takes a dice but at least it is not as laggy but battery is horrible. Having to spend the whole day chasing portable chargers and power outlets is no fun.
Thinking about the V10 since it seems to be everything the G4 should have been . I am not sure, LG has had too many hardware issues with my devices and horrible battery life on recent generations.
Would you recommend it today?
Thanks All,

luisitox22 said:
Hello all, I had a G2 that gave me touch screen problems and was too disappointing by it to try the G3 after those hardware issues. I have been HTC all the way with no Issues.
Tried giving LG another chance with this G4 and this phone has the worst battery life and heating/lag i have ever had on a phone. With CM13, the camera takes a dice but at least it is not as laggy but battery is horrible. Having to spend the whole day chasing portable chargers and power outlets is no fun.
Thinking about the V10 since it seems to be everything the G4 should have been . I am not sure, LG has had too many hardware issues with my devices and horrible battery life on recent generations.
Would you recommend it today?
Thanks All,
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Still the best phone around if you dont need latest processor for any special apps :good:

luisitox22 said:
Hello all, I had a G2 that gave me touch screen problems and was too disappointing by it to try the G3 after those hardware issues. I have been HTC all the way with no Issues.
Tried giving LG another chance with this G4 and this phone has the worst battery life and heating/lag i have ever had on a phone. With CM13, the camera takes a dice but at least it is not as laggy but battery is horrible. Having to spend the whole day chasing portable chargers and power outlets is no fun.
Thinking about the V10 since it seems to be everything the G4 should have been . I am not sure, LG has had too many hardware issues with my devices and horrible battery life on recent generations.
Would you recommend it today?
Thanks All,
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Personally love the phone, but don't expect extreme battery life, if you were disappointed with the g4 you will have the same woes here
Also note that not many variants can be rooted, read up and make sure the one you get can be if this is important
Other than that expect a lot of similarities to the g4
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demkantor said:
Personally love the phone, but don't expect extreme battery life, if you were disappointed with the g4 you will have the same woes here
Also note that not many variants can be rooted, read up and make sure the one you get can be if this is important
Other than that expect a lot of similarities to the g4
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thanks for the tip! I thought i had made up my mind on what could be my next daily driver phone yesterday, but i just stumbled upon a vid made with the V0 and craved it all over again. This H811 (tmobile) G4 heats up and lags with bad battery life on Stock Rom. Cm seems to help a bit but the camera is no where close to stock.
Will have to make a choice. I would be happy with at leats stable 4-5hrs SOT for photography, music and texting.
Another Question, will the G4 battery work on this device?
Thanks!

luisitox22 said:
thanks for the tip! I thought i had made up my mind on what could be my next daily driver phone yesterday, but i just stumbled upon a vid made with the V0 and craved it all over again. This H811 (tmobile) G4 heats up and lags with bad battery life on Stock Rom. Cm seems to help a bit but the camera is no where close to stock.
Will have to make a choice. I would be happy with at leats stable 4-5hrs SOT for photography, music and texting.
Another Question, will the G4 battery work on this device?
Thanks!
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T-Mobile variant is the way to go
G4 and v10 share the same capacity but unfortunately my wife's battery her her G4 won't fit in mine... So no luck there
But there are others mentioning some good luck with aftermarket extended batteries if you don't mind the extra bulk
If you plan on 4-5hrs sot with lots of photography than you will probably need one, if you run pure stock than 2-3 is what you should expect (custom Roms don't have camera)
But there are a few tweaks out there that can get you closer to that 4-5 with stock battery but of course you'll need to be rooted
So long answer is expect 2hrs sot if stock and 4 rooted/mods
And yeah, this phone rocks, fully recommend it, but battery life is terrible enough i have a spare battery (which beats any quick charge i may add)

demkantor said:
T-Mobile variant is the way to go
G4 and v10 share the same capacity but unfortunately my wife's battery her her G4 won't fit in mine... So no luck there
But there are others mentioning some good luck with aftermarket extended batteries if you don't mind the extra bulk
If you plan on 4-5hrs sot with lots of photography than you will probably need one, if you run pure stock than 2-3 is what you should expect (custom Roms don't have camera)
But there are a few tweaks out there that can get you closer to that 4-5 with stock battery but of course you'll need to be rooted
So long answer is expect 2hrs sot if stock and 4 rooted/mods
And yeah, this phone rocks, fully recommend it, but battery life is terrible enough i have a spare battery (which beats any quick charge i may add)
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Thanks for the reply. Was thinking of the Tmobile Variant. Seems that the Tmobile LG's of late for the get the support for US variants.
I am really fearing a lot of heating and lag like with this G4 that only seems to be controlled with CM roms. I will definable consider. Last question, this device is somewhat big. Is it biiger than a Sony Z3 o Nexus 6P? is it too big?
Thanks!

luisitox22 said:
Thanks for the reply. Was thinking of the Tmobile Variant. Seems that the Tmobile LG's of late for the get the support for US variants.
I am really fearing a lot of heating and lag like with this G4 that only seems to be controlled with CM roms. I will definable consider. Last question, this device is somewhat big. Is it biiger than a Sony Z3 o Nexus 6P? is it too big?
Thanks!
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With the various mods available you will get no lag or overheating problems, at least i don't
But my wife has no issues with her g4 either (other than battery life of course - we both had OnePlus one before these phones and we easily made full days with those)
Size wise... Yeah it's big, biggest I've used, never held a z3 but it does feel bigger (just a tad) to the 6p
Truthfully i don't like that it is this big, but not really a huge deal to me, the screen is excellent and the phone is pretty but i would be fine with a slightly smaller screen (like the G4 is for me about perfect) it really should be fatter though, this i would take, so long as a fatter phone meant a bigger battery anyway
This phone has one of the best cameras you can get still and i love the manual video control too ( i have an active 2 year old so the camera is about the most important thing on a phone i look for)
So for my personal use this is a damn near perfect phone so i still recommend it, just keep a spare battery and expect to get used to the size (you will)

Well, my warranty replacement V10 didn't make it 4 months before complete death! I was talking on the phone when all of a sudden it started making a steady soft beep. I removed the device from my belt clip ad the screen was frozen on the in-call timer. Then it went black and never powered back on. It won't charge. The PC won't recognize it. NOTHING!
TMO wants to give me a 3rd V10. F*ck no! F*ck LG! I've had a G3 with the screen flicker. The upgraded to the V10. My first V10 had a mic failure. Now the 2nd V10 just flat out died all together. F*ck you LG! Never ever again will I knowingly and willingly give you anymore of my hard earned money.

i was a BIG samsung fan until the s5/note 5 game out with completely locked bootloaders - even on tmobile. so i tried out the lg v10. i LOVE the hardware and the software works great with it. but just like older htc phones, we have no source to work with. so we're screwed on asop based roms. i absolutely cannot stand being limited with global dpi and other settings that i have to use through 3rd party apps like g4 tweaksbox (love what the app is good for though, thanks dev) or use other "hacks" to get what i want. not being able to go in and quickly flash new roms to try really killed it for me on the v10 and v20 (along with samsungs). recently i made a move to motorola devices (against my gut feeling but i got a good deal) with the nexus 6 and moto pure. i freaking love it. unlocked bootloaders on all varients AND the hardware is great. i even have an amoled screen on the nexus. there's every rom option you could think of. and almost every rom i've tried is complete. plus moto puts out new android updates quickly unlike lg. i can even compare the camera quality on the newer motorolas to the v10 and v20. they're right on par. then again the new pixel also out shoots pics on the v10. i do miss how fluid and sturdy my v10 was but i don't look back since motorola came back into my life.

As much as I like the V10, I will probably sell it soon. The reason is, I got the bootloop issue 9 months after I bought it. It's now under warranty repair, but I fear that after it's repaired, the phone will get into bootloop again after a few months of usage, and by then my warranty will have expired already. And I doubt that LG has fixed anything to prevent future bootloops.
Next mission is to find another good dual sim phone with a dedicated SD card slot. Any recommendations?

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Nexus 5 or G2 if they are priced the same?

I can get a 16gb nexus 5 and LG G2 base model for around the same price (give or take 20 dollars) Which one would you choose? My concern about the nexus 5 is its battery life, which the G2 is great at.
Thanks for the input!
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Between the two at this exact moment, I'd take the LG G2 personally because battery life is quite important to me in a portable device of most any kind. Reviews show it has fantastic battery life (meaning the G2) and I doubt seriously - considering the size of the battery in the Nexus 5 - that the Nexus 5 will get anywhere near what the G2 is proving quite capable of.
So, for me the LG G2 would be a no-brainer since we know KitKat will be showing up quite soon since the source is available - we just had a 4.4 build created by houstonn for the LGOG which I happen to have, it's mostly functional but I'm sure soon enough it will be 100% to go.
br0adband said:
Between the two at this exact moment, I'd take the LG G2 personally because battery life is quite important to me in a portable device of most any kind. Reviews show it has fantastic battery life (meaning the G2) and I doubt seriously - considering the size of the battery in the Nexus 5 - that the Nexus 5 will get anywhere near what the G2 is proving quite capable of.
So, for me the LG G2 would be a no-brainer since we know KitKat will be showing up quite soon since the source is available - we just had a 4.4 build created by houstonn for the LGOG which I happen to have, it's mostly functional but I'm sure soon enough it will be 100% to go.
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That was a quick response. Thanks man!
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Agreed. If battery is your main concern and the price is similar, I would choose the G2. Battery isn't that important to me though. All I really need from a phone is a full average day on a single charge and I think I will get that from the N5. I get a full day with my N4 on most days, but I run it conservatively.
I have a G2 now, and I get 2-3 days with the G2 and I get 1-2 days with the Note 3.
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Another possible benefit to the G2 is that has Audience's Earsmart noise cancellation chip. It remains to be seen if the Nexus 5 will have it, but since it would impose extra licensing fees, I'm guessing it's more likely than not that the Nexus 5 won't have it (Google has to cut corners somewhere, to sell the Nexus 5 for a low price).
Audience's noise cancellation chip is by far the best noise cancellation out there. Much better than Qualcomm's native solution Fluence (which the Nexus 4 uses). The Nexus One had the Audience chip and was one of the first phones to use it. I really miss that. I could be in super loud environments and people thought I was at home. The Nexus 4 has been a huge step down in this respect. After the Nexus One, the iPhone 4 used the Audience chip (and of course everyone acted like Apple invented noise cancellation, even though they were late comers to the game). In any case, it got much praise on the iPhone 4. But it has been dropped from the iPhone 5 for Apple's own in house solution and the (very few) critics how pay attention to this have pointed out that it's much worse. These days for the most part it's only Samsung that consistently uses the Audience chip in its top tier phones.
Anyway, I care a lot about call quality, so I'd really like the have the Audience chip again. I'm still waiting to see if it's in the Nexus 5. But if I had to decide now, without knowing, that would definitely be a feature pulling me toward the G2 instead.
I would take the G2 because of the battery life and camera performance ... and I'm saying this while I bought the nexus 5
im lucky that the price is so different!
it would be horribly tough to work it out.
g2 is clearly the better phone. better accu, bigger screen, better camera.
but hell man...nexus5 will have 18 month of Top noth Updates PLUS the Community will blow minds becwuse it will be THE device they All have and develope for. with the g2 you wont have that.
i keep telling people that Not the Hardware is the big Star of the cellphone but the Software is.
So choice is as the Situation is thaaaaat easy for me.
I had both and I'd recommend the Nexus 5 any second. KitKat runs super smooth and I love the looks! I hate the glossy plastic on the G2 and I totally love the soft silky back of the N5. I have been touching it nonstop for the last hour. I might need professional help.
DJ-Tumor said:
im lucky that the price is so different!
it would be horribly tough to work it out.
g2 is clearly the better phone. better accu, bigger screen, better camera.
but hell man...nexus5 will have 18 month of Top noth Updates PLUS the Community will blow minds becwuse it will be THE device they All have and develope for. with the g2 you wont have that.
i keep telling people that Not the Hardware is the big Star of the cellphone but the Software is.
So choice is as the Situation is thaaaaat easy for me.
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+1 in a couple weeks, there'll be some announcement where this cpu is better than etc etc. Hardware gets better all the time but software more or less stays the same and that's what we as users can compete on. Not on the hardware because something will be better in a matter of weeks / months etc.
If having a good community in terms of rom and kernels as well as receiving the newest and latest android on a stock android experience matters to you then a nexus phone is a no Brainer.
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DJ-Tumor said:
im lucky that the price is so different!
it would be horribly tough to work it out.
g2 is clearly the better phone. better accu, bigger screen, better camera.
but hell man...nexus5 will have 18 month of Top noth Updates PLUS the Community will blow minds becwuse it will be THE device they All have and develope for. with the g2 you wont have that.
i keep telling people that Not the Hardware is the big Star of the cellphone but the Software is.
So choice is as the Situation is thaaaaat easy for me.
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I'm still disappointed with the 2300 mah battery, I would have been totally satisfied with a 2600 mah battery...
Better accu? :silly: this forum is filled with Germans , I love when i realize that I'm not the only one who keeps mixing the languages :laugh:
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I'm still disappointed with the 2300 mah battery, I would have been totally satisfied with a 2600 mah battery...
Better accu? :silly: this forum is filled with Germans , I love when i realize that I'm not the only one who keeps mixing the languages :laugh:
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We say Akku in German though
Chad_Petree said:
I'm still disappointed with the 2300 mah battery, I would have been totally satisfied with a 2600 mah battery...
Better accu? :silly: this forum is filled with Germans , I love when i realize that I'm not the only one who keeps mixing the languages :laugh:
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yeah happens.. *smile*
but accumulator is Not wrong either in english i guess....but yeah native english speakers Do say battery All the time.
/edit: but it seems BATTERY seems ok from One can read from others. but be careful with that Information! people are still hyped to the Max with the new device the may get too euphoric about it.
Hard decision but honestly I got burned hard by the Optimus 2X and anyone else who owned that phone would likely agree with me, it was a solid phone but the software support was horrendous (not helped by Nvidia...). The only reason I got the Nexus 4 was the fact it was made by LG which make QUALITY hardware but lack a large software dev team so as the Nexus is done by Google it was a very easy decision . I wouldnt leave the Nexus series so long as it stays at the price point of £300 as the developer community alone is amazing, so many talented developers working on one device we would never get left in the dark.
The G2 is a better device interms of battery life but for me the device size definitely goes past the perfect spot which is the N4 and N5 (width is important!). Would I have paid extra if the N5 had a stepped battery in it, of course I would as I do want longer battery life but I think the N5 will meet my requirement now as its better than the N4! I think the decider for me if they were the same price would be the developer community as I would go for the one with the biggest following, if the G2 can keep up with the N5 in terms of custom rom android versions then it would be fine and I would be tempted but still would need to hold it in the hand as I think its too wide.
Tough call! Would wait till Jan before deciding on the community personally.
I would get Nexus 5. I don't use my phone 8 hours a day and I don't live in the woods so I have access to the charger most of the time.
DJ-Tumor said:
im lucky that the price is so different!
it would be horribly tough to work it out.
g2 is clearly the better phone. better accu, bigger screen, better camera.
but hell man...nexus5 will have 18 month of Top noth Updates PLUS the Community will blow minds becwuse it will be THE device they All have and develope for. with the g2 you wont have that.
i keep telling people that Not the Hardware is the big Star of the cellphone but the Software is.
So choice is as the Situation is thaaaaat easy for me.
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Do you assume that after 18 months Google will no longer update the N5?
mazinya said:
Do you assume that after 18 months Google will no longer update the N5?
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Honestly, after Google said they stopped supporting the Galaxy Nexus I'm not that optimistic either. But it doesn't matter to me since this is a Nexus.
mazinya said:
Do you assume that after 18 months Google will no longer update the N5?
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that is what Google says and seems to be the reason why the samsun nexus does Not get updates any more.
possibly because of Qualcomm being the cpu we may get Lucky to get One Last Update after that 18 month.
only time will tell.
As of what we Do Know now...we should shot expect Updates after the 18 month.
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Honestly, after Google said they stopped supporting the Galaxy Nexus I'm not that optimistic either. But it doesn't matter to me since this is a Nexus.
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DJ-Tumor said:
that is what Google says and seems to be the reason why the samsun nexus does Not get updates any more.
possibly because of Qualcomm being the cpu we may get Lucky to get One Last Update after that 18 month.
only time will tell.
As of what we Do Know now...we should shot expect Updates after the 18 month.
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Google did say the reason that the Gnex will no longer get updates... Im not a fortune teller but I think Qualcomm will survive more than 18 months.
Either way, once I see that the N5 will stop getting updates, that will be the moment when I root my phone.
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Google did say the reason that the Gnex will no longer get updates... Im not a fortune teller but I think Qualcomm will survive more than 18 months.
Either way, once I see that the N5 will stop getting updates, that will be the moment when I root my phone.
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What reasons, this is all I see so far: https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085?hl=en
And if its because TI is no longer making the chips, that's not convincing, while I'm no developer, TI OMAP chips are much more open than Qualcomm (which is why they are found in a lot of other opensource linux devices) so even if Google receives no help from TI it should still be easier to release KitKat for it than with a Qualcomm device having to deal with more proprietary codes (one of the reason a Nexus 7 factory image was temporary pulled).
Anyway, what ever the reason its unfounded and here is why: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/development
Exactly - the reason for the lack of a 4.4 update for the Galaxy Nexus is because TI basically pulled out of ARM chip making and they won't provide support to Google so Google has no choice but to pull out of any potential updates for that particular device.
In time I'm sure you'll see a 4.4+ ROM appear soon enough for the Galaxy Nexus. Hell, if old devices like the Galaxy S can run 4.3 (and it does, surprisingly well, probably will run 4.4 too without a problem) you can be positive that 4.4 will make it's way to the Galaxy Nexus soon enough.
But it's not Google that pulled the plug for that update, it was Texas Instruments...

Where's everyone going?

As the time comes that most of us who did a 2 yr upgrade are coming up on picking up a new device what is everyone gravitating to?
The waterproofing of the S5 is nice but inability to root is disheartening, the M8 is nice but I'm not sure about it.
USFguy said:
As the time comes that most of us who did a 2 yr upgrade are coming up on picking up a new device what is everyone gravitating to?
The waterproofing of the S5 is nice but inability to root is disheartening, the M8 is nice but I'm not sure about it.
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I am moving to Sony Z2 for waterproof and style. Its slick lines just make it look like art.
I find the M8 good looking from the front but ugly from the side and back. Something about its big sloppy curved back doesnt sit right with me. The phone just looks fat and bulky.
S5 really does seem like the standout device this year. But I have never wanted what everyone else has. Plus I find it bland looking.
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I am moving to Sony Z2 for waterproof and style. Its slick lines just make it look like art.
I find the M8 good looking from the front but ugly from the side and back. Something about its big sloppy curved back doesnt sit right with me. The phone just looks fat and bulky.
S5 really does seem like the standout device this year. But I have never wanted what everyone else has. Plus I find it bland looking.
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Z2 is on ATT?
USFguy said:
Z2 is on ATT?
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No idea. I think I read somewhere the other week that no usa carriers will have the z2.
twistedddx said:
No idea. I think I read somewhere the other week that no usa carriers will have the z2.
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Well the big red will (ew) but other than that, Sony Store only I think
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USFguy said:
The waterproofing of the S5 is nice but inability to root is disheartening, the M8 is nice but I'm not sure about it.
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What about the M8 aren't you sure about? Its what I picked up last week, and its a fabulous phone.
I've summed up my feeling between the two devices (GS5 vs. M8) pretty well over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52651026&postcount=14
The build quality of the M8 simply blows the GS5 out of the water.
The only "pros" I see on the GS5 side are:
- the waterproofing (M8 is still water resistant, just not meant to be completely submerged)
- better photos in good lighting (mainly outdoors, and how much this matter is going to depend on how you use your phone most often)
- much bigger market share and therefore larger community (but with the bootloader so locked down, how much does this matter?)
Side note: I haven't been keeping up with the GS5 root status, so I decided to hop over there and just take a peek before harping on the issue too much (to avoid spreading any possible misinformation). And the situation is bleak, to say the least. I don't think I've ever seen a Development forum section this empty. Even the EVITA (with a locked down bootloader) had some development threads before the phone was even released:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/orig-development
I mean, I'm sure the talented devs here figure something out eventually. But this was just pretty striking to see.
redpoint73 said:
Side note: I haven't been keeping up with the GS5 root status, so I decided to hop over there and just take a peek before harping on the issue too much (to avoid spreading any possible misinformation). And the situation is bleak, to say the least. I don't think I've ever seen a Development forum section this empty. Even devices like my old HTC EVITA (with a locked down bootloader) had some development threads before the phone was even released:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/orig-development
I mean, I'm sure the talented devs here figure something out eventually. But this was just pretty striking to see.
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That's just sad!
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What about LG G2... or upcoming G3?
If my Evita dies on me. I still want an M7 or Nexus 5. Still great phones. The dev section for M7 is loaded.
No idea... Probably an M8. Depends what is out there around Christmas
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I changed my contract to the no-contract plan AT&T has now and save a lot of money on our bill. On the other hand, I'm stuck with this phone until something worth buying off-contract comes along. Not that it's a bad phone. I just installed a new battery and brand new white housing I got off ebay for under $25 bucks total and it looks and works like new! (better than new with CM11 and some overclocking) Every new phone coming out lately is too big. All 5+ inch screens and I can barely hold this phone with one hand as it is. Oh well, maybe the new Nexus will be reasonably sized.
ThisWasATriumph said:
I changed my contract to the no-contract plan AT&T has now and save a lot of money on our bill. On the other hand, I'm stuck with this phone until something worth buying off-contract comes along. Not that it's a bad phone. I just installed a new battery and brand new white housing I got off ebay for under $25 bucks total and it looks and works like new! (better than new with CM11 and some overclocking) Every new phone coming out lately is too big. All 5+ inch screens and I can barely hold this phone with one hand as it is. Oh well, maybe the new Nexus will be reasonably sized.
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I had my HOXL for just over a year, thinking of installing the HOX+ 2100mAh I grabbed a while ago.
I still believe the HOXL is a beautiful and capable device (for my needs anyways). Agree that nothing is very convincing at the moment
Could've gone for One (M7) when I got my Evita, many things I didn't like, and definitely the gap increased with M8, it seems after many years with hTC I am going to try something else, maybe until they come back to their senses
As for the size, was in shop the other day and compared my Evita to LG G2, the later is barley taller by 2 mm and wider by 1 mm, 14 g heavier but same thickness, it packs a 5.2" screen with thin bezel, just this is amazing, faster CPU 2. 2 and double ram, whooping 3000 mAh battery, There is the matter of back volume rocker and power button, which I was kinda sceptical to, but wen I tried the phone in my hand I was actually surprised it might be more ergonomical and less finger stretchy than Evita.
Not in a rush, wil wait and see what the rest of year 2014 has to offer.
LG G3
Just following up....
Not bad at all if the new G3 really looks like this!
Some of course like the brushed metal thingy
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I changed my contract to the no-contract plan AT&T has now and save a lot of money on our bill. On the other hand, I'm stuck with this phone until something worth buying off-contract comes along. Not that it's a bad phone. I just installed a new battery and brand new white housing I got off ebay for under $25 bucks total and it looks and works like new! (better than new with CM11 and some overclocking) Every new phone coming out lately is too big. All 5+ inch screens and I can barely hold this phone with one hand as it is. Oh well, maybe the new Nexus will be reasonably sized.
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How hard was it to replace the battery?
nerdo said:
Just following up....
Not bad at all if the new G3 really looks like this!
Some of course like the brushed metal thingy
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Wow, just read this ( http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/05/16/lg-g3-leaks-continue-heres-what-you-need-to-know/ ) and the G3 is now my go to device! But the scary thing is...will the devs be able to unlock the bootloader or are the days of seeing talented devs rolling out amazing ROMs and kernals coming to an end?
USFguy said:
Wow, just read this ( http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/05/16/lg-g3-leaks-continue-heres-what-you-need-to-know/ ) and the G3 is now my go to device! But the scary thing is...will the devs be able to unlock the bootloader or are the days of seeing talented devs rolling out amazing ROMs and kernals coming to an end?
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Personally If I go for it I'll be satisfied with possibility to root and flash custom recovery, both of which didn't seem to be an issue with G2. This should be sufficient for flashing custom roms and kernels. There is good activity in G2 forums though.
I got my Evita last year, March 2013. It's still working ok, no real problems. I'm bothered that basically it's been abandoned by HTC though. I'd really like Kitkat, to use 4.4 only stuff like Google Camera etc.
I'd consider buying something else, but I've found the Evita too large and now all new phones are pretty much larger. I'm checking out buying the Moto G but sadly it's very hard to find the 16gb variant in Canada. I'm also interested in what the Moto X+1 turns out to be...
I'm hoping to get an invite for the oneplus one phone. If I get that, I will surely be purchasing it. if I dont get one before the next nexus (if there is one,) I will be purchasing a nexus. I'm also thinking about going to t-mob no contract. If I happen to renew my att contract, which I am unsure if I want to do, I will be jumping for the g3.
My earspeaker pretty much went out and gf dropped phone a few too many times so I took advantage of the $0.00 total for the LG G2 online at www.att.com the HTC One m7 is also $0.00 at Best Buy but I really wanted the updated processor. I really wanted the m8 or OnePlus One or maybe even the G3 when it arrives but Im too low on income.
Today I rooted it and was about to flash recovery but power went out. Made me super pissed. I was also low level formatting a hard drive at the same time so now I have to start that process over again.
I'd really like to play around with a Sony phone.
I see so many mixed reviews on Sony phones. On the surface they're incredible, the Z2 has amazing hardware, but I've seen heaps of reports of them heating up so much that the screen cracks. Among other faults. And Sony blames the consumer instantly when there's physical damage, no matter what the cause, which I guess I can understand because there's just no way to prove what caused it. But, you'd think after so many reports they might click.
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Well, I picked up an M8 and while I'm blown away at how incredible it is, I'm sorely going to miss tinkering on the Evita. I have no intention of getting rid of it though. The Evita was my first smart phone to really get the most out of. I think I flashed and tried pretty much every Rom and Mod worth using in this forum. I'll still hang out occasionally. Thanks for the good times and making the phone 10 times better.

Currently got a G3 and OPO is on its way

I've had the 32GB EU G3 for a month now and I've just bought (unfortunately) an invite on eBay after missing my invite from OnePlus but I am well excited! I can see me sticking with this phone, I am expecting to be disappointed with the size and weight but everything else should please
Are there any known faults to look out for?
Thanks!
Same here, got a G3 and have a One waiting
Search the forums to find any faults.
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I've had the 32GB EU G3 for a month now and I've just bought (unfortunately) an invite on eBay after missing my invite from OnePlus but I am well excited! I can see me sticking with this phone, I am expecting to be disappointed with the size and weight but everything else should please
Are there any known faults to look out for?
Thanks!
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Another one here! Had the G3 for a few weeks now and just ordered the OPO today...I have the ATT version. Looking forward to the OPO!
I just sold the G3 when I got my One. I liked the G3 a bit better in the form factor as it was smaller but honestly, the One is a better all around phone at this point. Battery life is better, development is better, audio is better and its much faster with fewer lags. If they get Cyanogen working on the G3 it will be a fantastic phone but for all the hope there is with it now, I just can't see them unlocking the bootloader anytime soon on the AT&T model. My one does not have the yellowing issue but you can see the digitizer plainly. There are just many small issues with the G3. They can all be worked out but they will always be behind the One with Cyanogen. The difference in price was a big factor for me as I wanted a new Ping driver and that extra cash made the difference.
jameslfc5 said:
I've had the 32GB EU G3 for a month now and I've just bought (unfortunately) an invite on eBay after missing my invite from OnePlus but I am well excited! I can see me sticking with this phone, I am expecting to be disappointed with the size and weight but everything else should please
Are there any known faults to look out for?
Thanks!
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Bro, you should do your research first before buying anything lol The only real hardware fault that I've found on the OPO comes in the form of a yellow band found on the bottom 1/5th of the display, the yellow tint becomes apparent on white backgrounds, but it personally doesn't bother me, or I should say that I'm at peace with it now. For the price and specs, I'm happy with the purchase and compromise. There are a lot of people whining about the issue, and OnePlus has been ****ty with their service, but just open the packaging check it out, and if you don't like it, just sell it as new on eBay for a small 40-80 dollar profit after fees
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I just sold the G3 when I got my One. I liked the G3 a bit better in the form factor as it was smaller but honestly, the One is a better all around phone at this point. Battery life is better, development is better, audio is better and its much faster with fewer lags. If they get Cyanogen working on the G3 it will be a fantastic phone but for all the hope there is with it now, I just can't see them unlocking the bootloader anytime soon on the AT&T model. My one does not have the yellowing issue but you can see the digitizer plainly. There are just many small issues with the G3. They can all be worked out but they will always be behind the One with Cyanogen. The difference in price was a big factor for me as I wanted a new Ping driver and that extra cash made the difference.
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Yeah I'm really looking forward to modified Cyanogen, I am a stock android fan anyway and I love the speed and transitions also with Android L around the corner, I think there is a much better chance of the OPO getting it first
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Bro, you should do your research first before buying anything lol The only real hardware fault that I've found on the OPO comes in the form of a yellow band found on the bottom 1/5th of the display, the yellow tint becomes apparent on white backgrounds, but it personally doesn't bother me, or I should say that I'm at peace with it now. For the price and specs, I'm happy with the purchase and compromise. There are a lot of people whining about the issue, and OnePlus has been ****ty with their service, but just open the packaging check it out, and if you don't like it, just sell it as new on eBay for a small 40-80 dollar profit after fees
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Thanks for the reply mate, am I right in thinking the OPO is shipped from the country that you order from? So mine is shipped from the UK?
also if it does have the yellow banding (which I hope it doesn't because I can't overlook faults haha) will they not just exchange it?
Just ordered my opo to replace my oppo find 5 personal device, have a g3 work phone that I'm really digging, but got the invite and I'm excited for the upgrade.
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Don't get me wrong, I loved the G3. If they had the development over there it definitely would have been a keeper. I think most of the compromises would be easily worked out by some good developers. The only thing that would not be able to catch up is the battery life. The size and the screen is fabulous for a 5.5" device. I'm still thinking the perfect phone would be a G2 sized device with all the updates of the G3 and the 805 processor.
I'm getting 50+ hrs per charge and avg about 5 to 6 hrs if SOT stock Rom, rooted. I think the G3 is one of the best phones I've used to date.
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I'm getting 50+ hrs per charge and avg about 5 to 6 hrs if SOT stock Rom, rooted. I think the G3 is one of the best phones I've used to date.
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I actually love my G3 but I have been wanting the One for a while. #33467 on the OnePlus forum and did get my invite but gave it away because at the time my wife had a major surgery out of town from us and we were strapped for money. I just got the money together so I got the One. Or should I say its ordered.
I love Cyanogen and with the G3 so locked down right now for ATT I am glad I am able to get the One. I do have my G3 rooted with some good mods, viper4android, titanium, xposed tweakbox, etc. and it is very nice. It isn't as bogged down like my Sammy phones were with stock so I am enjoying it. But, I need development! I will be keeping it around. Letting the wifey take it and selling her note 3.
Well, I feel good about my choice getting the OPO. Can't wait!
I've never got over 4 hours sot on my G3 with the exact setup as my one, this phone never has under 7. You can cook eggs on the G3 under certain situations so I respect the 4 hour sot, the energy has to come from somewhere
Im in the same boat, I have the ONEPLUS and have been using it for almost a month. I have had the opportunity to get the LG G3 which I really want to get but I have had one thing stopping me from getting it. 1.) The audio/headphone jack problem I heard about. Some users say they dont have it some say they do.
I prefer the G3 over the ONEPLUS because the screen is the same size but the phone form factor is smaller and easier on the hands and pockets. Also it has removable battery which is a HUGE plus and the external SD card which is pretty nice, even though I use Google Drive.
So..I probably will stick with the ONEPLUS for a while until I have to switch to the G3.

LG G3 or Nexus 5 or OnePlusOne (phone for <400$)

After my brave soldier, Galaxy S2, broke down (after 4 years of use), I am looking for a new phone. What am I looking for:
OS updates for 2 years
Good camera (it would be nice to have good front camera too)
Good screen
Not bigger than 5.5" (5.5 is huge for me, coming from Galaxy S2)
Good build quality
Good battery life would be great! (it needs to last for the whole day)
Not a Samsung
So, I have considered following phones as candidates:
LG G3
Nexus 5
OnePlus One
But I have doubts about all of them.
First of all, the G3. I am afraid it will not receive updates for a long period of time. Also, I have heard that it has some issues with screen being too hot sometimes. And what about the camera on it? Is it good?
Second, the Nexus 5. This one looks for me as a winner, but I still have some questions about it. Isn't it a bit too old? And what about camera quality? Maybe you have any comments on this?
Last, but not least, the OnePlus One. This phone gives me headaches... A lot of people are saying that it is one of the best phones for under 400$ (my budget), but I have quite a few questions about it. Since I can only get it second hand, it has to be perfect. So, what about the camera quality, screen quality? Mostly I am worried about CyanogenMod. I have been using CM OS on my phone for quite some time and am able to say that it can be very buggy and annoying sometimes. Won't this be an issue for OnePlus One? And will it be updated to latest OS for at least 2 years? Also, what about build quality? I have heard that 64GB version (the black one) wears of very easily.
So there, I have a bit of an issue to solve and I do believe that XDA forum is the place to solve it! Maybe you can help me out and give me some suggestions on what should I buy?
Mariius said:
After my brave soldier, Galaxy S2, broke down (after 4 years of use), I am looking for a new phone. What am I looking for:
OS updates for 2 years
Good camera (it would be nice to have good front camera too)
Good screen
Not bigger than 5.5" (5.5 is huge for me, coming from Galaxy S2)
Good build quality
Good battery life would be great! (it needs to last for the whole day)
Not a Samsung
So, I have considered following phones as candidates:
LG G3
Nexus 5
OnePlus One
But I have doubts about all of them.
First of all, the G3. I am afraid it will not receive updates for a long period of time. Also, I have heard that it has some issues with screen being too hot sometimes. And what about the camera on it? Is it good?
Second, the Nexus 5. This one looks for me as a winner, but I still have some questions about it. Isn't it a bit too old? And what about camera quality? Maybe you have any comments on this?
Last, but not least, the OnePlus One. This phone gives me headaches... A lot of people are saying that it is one of the best phones for under 400$ (my budget), but I have quite a few questions about it. Since I can only get it second hand, it has to be perfect. So, what about the camera quality, screen quality? Mostly I am worried about CyanogenMod. I have been using CM OS on my phone for quite some time and am able to say that it can be very buggy and annoying sometimes. Won't this be an issue for OnePlus One? And will it be updated to latest OS for at least 2 years? Also, what about build quality? I have heard that 64GB version (the black one) wears of very easily.
So there, I have a bit of an issue to solve and I do believe that XDA forum is the place to solve it! Maybe you can help me out and give me some suggestions on what should I buy?
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In my opinion Lg G3.
Lets sort the list first. Shall we? Nexus 5 is way too old. Its back camera is also not upto the mark as compared to generation of phones and ofcourse why would it be? We have nexus 6 now.
Nexus 5 is out.
Lg G3- Camera quality awesome! Lg Interface Perfect! Os updates i am pretty sure it would get updates for a good time period! As Lg g1 was released one 4.1.2 and was updated till 4.4.2. Pretty nice run huh? And g3 was given soak test of lollipop before the nexus too! So yeah Lg G3 is a go. Awesome build quality too!
Oneplus one- Of all the news i have heard its good! yeah OS will gets updates for a pretty long period but i am unsure of the updates as cyanogenmod was overtaken from oneplus one via micromax ( in my country ). Now in terms of camera Lg is better. In terms of build quality LG is a go. About the os, it is very stable as compared to unofficial builds. The pixel density of oneplus one is very less than as compared to Lg g3!
In my terms go for lg g3 its perfect!!
Malyaj said:
In my opinion Lg G3.
Lets sort the list first. Shall we? Nexus 5 is way too old. Its back camera is also not upto the mark as compared to generation of phones and ofcourse why would it be? We have nexus 6 now.
Nexus 5 is out.
Lg G3- Camera quality awesome! Lg Interface Perfect! Os updates i am pretty sure it would get updates for a good time period! As Lg g1 was released one 4.1.2 and was updated till 4.4.2. Pretty nice run huh? And g3 was given soak test of lollipop before the nexus too! So yeah Lg G3 is a go. Awesome build quality too!
Oneplus one- Of all the news i have heard its good! yeah OS will gets updates for a pretty long period but i am unsure of the updates as cyanogenmod was overtaken from oneplus one via micromax ( in my country ). Now in terms of camera Lg is better. In terms of build quality LG is a go. About the os, it is very stable as compared to unofficial builds. The pixel density of oneplus one is very less than as compared to Lg g3!
In my terms go for lg g3 its perfect!!
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But I just found out that G3 has some serious issues with heat and battery drain. I don't think it is one of the best choices for me.
Mariius said:
But I just found out that G3 has some serious issues with heat and battery drain. I don't think it is one of the best choices for me.
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Well man remember one thing. Don't believe on what others say! Its what you gotta believe and in that case you have also heard that oneplus one wears off? Its all up to you man. Final verdict is yours. I would recommend Lg G3.
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Malyaj said:
Well man remember one thing. Don't believe on what others say! Its what you gotta believe and in that case you have also heard that oneplus one wears off? Its all up to you man. Final verdict is yours. I would recommend Lg G3.
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It is very hard to get OnePlus for me, since not only I don't have an invitation, but also it doesn't ship to my country. So I have to buy second hand one. That sucks.
The G3: It is a looker for real. It is quite big, and has issues with heat (MKBHD it think talked about full brightness issue). He is quite a reliable source. Battery drain worries me too. Will I be able to use it for at least 24 hours? It is a very difficult decision to make.
The Nexus 5 would be a killer, but it's camera and battery life, it sucks.
Mariius said:
It is very hard to get OnePlus for me, since not only I don't have an invitation, but also it doesn't ship to my country. So I have to buy second hand one. That sucks.
The G3: It is a looker for real. It is quite big, and has issues with heat (MKBHD it think talked about full brightness issue). He is quite a reliable source. Battery drain worries me too. Will I be able to use it for at least 24 hours? It is a very difficult decision to make.
The Nexus 5 would be a killer, but it's camera and battery life, it sucks.
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Well man no, no android phone would last upto 24 hours after 3 months. So its all the same. Now, would you keep your phone on full brightness all the times? Would you man?? No. And heating issue, well man every android and ios phone over heats after gaming or continues usage over 1 hour or 2 hours max. So, its all the same. My Moto g 6 months old in the starting gave 20-22 hours backup and from next month 12-15 hours. So its all the same bro.
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Nexus 5 wont actually make sense as Nexus 6 is here and it is pretty old too.
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Anyone interested in M10

I'm definitely interested. I love this phone, but I didn't think the M9 was much of an upgrade. We shall see though. It will between htc 10 & moto X pure
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sjpritch25 said:
I'm definitely interested. I love this phone, but I didn't think the M9 was much of an upgrade. We shall see though. It will between htc 10 & moto X pure
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I would like some insight too.
1st. Would like the M10 2nd. Google (read about *4G issues?) 6P .
question is being on VZW.
will s-off and root be possible for M10 on vzw?
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So I was on the fence for a while going back and forth with the leaks, but I think after the official announcement I'm in. Everything about this phone sounds great. I'm also liking their new ad campaign. HTC's #1 issue has been marketing. Yes the M9 was a miss for most of us on this forum, but that's because we already had the M8 and there was little reason to upgrade. The M9 was in many ways still an excellent phone. I really hope that the HTC 10 + Vive can help HTC recapture the market. The fact that they are releasing a new phone that pushes the envelope in nearly every direction despite shrinking margins and posting a net loss is very impressive.
I can't say with certainty, but I'm very hopeful of the s-off / rooting potential of this phone, even then VZW version. The unlocked GSM model will be able to unlock the bootloader via HTCDev.
As it seems is always the case these days, with everything new we get, we lose some features as well. Let's take a moment of silence for stereo front facing speakers and the IR blaster... add them to the Qi wireless charging we lost after the DNA.
My only complaints with the HTC 10 so far: Facebook will come preinstalled and can't be removed (ugh), and the rear camera sticks out, which is fine if you use a case, but I almost never do, so that's annoying.
Oh, and I apparently the Camellia Red colorway is a KDDI JPY exclusive, which stinks. I have the red M8 and I love it! If I could buy a red 10 I'd be so happy.
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spjetrovic said:
I would like some insight too.
1st. Would like the M10 2nd. Google (read about *4G issues?) 6P .
question is being on VZW.
will s-off and root be possible for M10 on vzw?
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I have a feeling S-Off will come to the HTC 10, Jcase had this to say
https://twitter.com/jcase/status/719891850484559873
HTC 10 will be on all carriers except At&t, the unlocked variant will of course work on there still. I am so excited for this device, it has everything you could want in a phone. Sense UI is still great & it being closer to stock is a plus. This & the Galaxy S7 are the only 2 devices right now that have my attention, its either a phone that can be Rooted & Boomsound or a phone that is Water Resistant & has Layers Support.
krazie1 said:
I have a feeling S-Off will come to the HTC 10, Jcase had this to say
https://twitter.com/jcase/status/719891850484559873
HTC 10 will be on all carriers except At&t, the unlocked variant will of course work on there still. I am so excited for this device, it has everything you could want in a phone. Sense UI is still great & it being closer to stock is a plus. This & the Galaxy S7 are the only 2 devices right now that have my attention, its either a phone that can be Rooted & Boomsound or a phone that is Water Resistant & has Layers Support.
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Thanks buddy, I love my ?8.
I recently dropped it and cracked the screen. So I have been looking for a replacement.
Would like it to be better then the M8.
Being I'm on VZW unlimited. I know Big red is locking all doors. I would like to use my phone with the least possible restriction. Would like the phone to have great community/dev support.
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krazie1 said:
I have a feeling S-Off will come to the HTC 10, Jcase had this to say
I am so excited for this device, it has everything you could want in a phone.
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And a built in battery which makes it a totally useless phone for me. My M8 is the only phone I'll ever own with a non-removable battery. Sorry HTC, not for me.
No removable battery or no removable storage card = NO!
xs11e said:
And a built in battery which makes it a totally useless phone for me. My M8 is the only phone I'll ever own with a non-removable battery. Sorry HTC, not for me.
No removable battery or no removable storage card = NO!
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HTC 10 has a Micro SD Slot that supports up to 2TB
krazie1 said:
HTC 10 has a Micro SD Slot that supports up to 2TB
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One out of two = NO! Micro SD slot AND removable battery = minimum acceptable features.
I may pick up a used Galaxy 4 again and activate it, the M8 is now two years old and the battery life has dropped quite a bit... <sigh>
Removable batteries are not a priority for the majority of users. In all the years I've had a phone I've never swapped out batteries. While I understand there may be use cases that require removable batteries, I've found that portable battery packs solve most use cases. If you must have the ability to swap batteries than I suggest looking at the LG G5.
I like the HTC 10. Seems like a solid upgrade, especially the camera which is now one of the best on the market compared to the M9 being one of the worst. Sense 8, and lack of bloatware seems fantastic for the unlocked version. If Javacard can s-off the HTC 10 on Verizon, that might pull me over! Sense is probably the cleanest, smoothest UI I've used.
I ended up getting a Nexus 6P in mid-march. Love the screen size. I'm holding LTE band 4 a lot better than I did with the M8, and can now get LTE in my basement when I was only able to get 3G on M8.
The 4G issue you were referring to could have been fixed by the last major firmware update, but who knows. Haven't had a problem with mine. Go figure. Every phone has its own personality
Only annoying part is Verizon includes free visual voicemail, but no way to use it (no app compatible) so I keep getting a text for each voicemail. Can be rectified by calling CS and downgrading to basic voicemail, but don't care enough. I may get 1 voicemail every month? lol
I use Google Voice for my voicemail, it's free and much better than Verizon's offering. As an added bonus, you get a 2nd phone number which is great for when you don't want to give out your actual cell to anyone (filtering calls is much easier in Google Voice than through Verizon).
I'll wait until the first or second price drop. Since my m8 just got marshmallow, I'm very happy with it and don't need to be on the latest and greatest. I'd rather have the money in my pocket.
I would love to get another HTC phone but the 10 isn't up to snuff compared to the Samsung Galaxy S7. I was leaning towards the S7 just because of the wireless charging ability and better camera.
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I was interested (more so bored with having the same phone over a year) but then I bought my wife a galaxy s7 and I can say for certain other than camera performance, faster charging and specs nothing has changed since 2014 worth upgrading for. For two days I ran app after same app on both with no real difference in real world speed (running stock rooted marshmallow with NO mods) despite benchmarks and specs. Increased resolution serves no purpose other than specs on a 5" screen and human eyes. Both screens look perfect. I guess a fingerprint reader would be nice for people who lock their phone or think it's easier to pull out a phone than bank card (she doesn't use it. Never even been set up).
Point is after real world comparison nothing revolutionary has changed. They aren't even getting prettier and thinner anymore (m8 and m9 look better and thinner).So I bought a skin/wrap and I feel like I have a brand new phone. Pretty sure this is why at some point they stop supporting newer software. From 2014 many people would never need to buy a new phone except for outdated software.
drumz0rz said:
Removable batteries are not a priority for the majority of users. In all the years I've had a phone I've never swapped out batteries. While I understand there may be use cases that require removable batteries, I've found that portable battery packs solve most use cases. If you must have the ability to swap batteries than I suggest looking at the LG G5.
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I'm considering the G5, hoping someone will unlock the bootloader. I suspect people with newer phones haven't encountered the battery problems I have with my M8 (my LAST PHONE with a non-removable battery!) which is over 3 years old, the battery was fine until around 30 days ago...
I hit the sack around 11 PM and connect the phone to the charger, I get up at 7 AM and take the phone off the charger. When new, I could often get to 10 PM w/o recharging, recently I have to recharge TWICE during the day and today I noticed the phone won't charge more than 85%!
So now my options are: Replace battery, this involves losing the phone for some days and spending a bunch of bucks or new phone, again a bunch of bucks or buying a used phone from Swappa, again a bunch of bucks all of which would never have happened if I could only remove the old battery and slide in a new one!
I'll definitely try to get it. When ever they decide to release it on VZW. Way worth the upgrade from the M8 . 4 gigs of ram, SD 820, fingerprint, new boomsound/headphone audio, better cameras, 4k video recording, USB C, QC 3.0, a little bigger screen size but without the size of the phone increasing, I assume better battery life.
I stopped by a Verizon store yesterday to play with their display 10. It's a nice phone, but I don't think it's worth the $600-700 price to upgrade over the M8. I like the physical design of the M8 better, not a fan of the chamfored edged on the back or the rear camera bump. For the "best mobile camera ever" I was underwhelmed. Maybe it's just the awful lighting in the verizon store, but the image quality wasn't substantially different. I noticed the 10's front camera is much less wide-angle than the M8's. Moving the headphone jack to the top sucks. Back to the days of wires sticking out the top and bottom of your device. Also, you know how the M8 has that glossy plastic strip across the top, which blends well into the IR blaster power button? Well the 10 has the same strip except it's a soft matte grey plastic that I just don't think works at all. It looks like the original M7 did.
To be honest I'm a bit disappointed. I rushed out to buy the Thunderbolt when it came out, I waited for the store to open to pick up the DNA. Upgrading to the M8 felt like a major upgrade. Going from M8 to 10 though just feels like a slight iteration, gaining some new bells and whistles but losing others. Maybe HTC will get the 11 right, if they survive that long...
drumz0rz said:
I stopped by a Verizon store yesterday to play with their display 10. It's a nice phone, but I don't think it's worth the $600-700 price to upgrade over the M8. I like the physical design of the M8 better, not a fan of the chamfored edged on the back or the rear camera bump. For the "best mobile camera ever" I was underwhelmed. Maybe it's just the awful lighting in the verizon store, but the image quality wasn't substantially different. I noticed the 10's front camera is much less wide-angle than the M8's. Moving the headphone jack to the top sucks. Back to the days of wires sticking out the top and bottom of your device. Also, you know how the M8 has that glossy plastic strip across the top, which blends well into the IR blaster power button? Well the 10 has the same strip except it's a soft matte grey plastic that I just don't think works at all. It looks like the original M7 did.
To be honest I'm a bit disappointed. I rushed out to buy the Thunderbolt when it came out, I waited for the store to open to pick up the DNA. Upgrading to the M8 felt like a major upgrade. Going from M8 to 10 though just feels like a slight iteration, gaining some new bells and whistles but losing others. Maybe HTC will get the 11 right, if they survive that long...
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Pixel count the image is wider. The m8 only has a 4MP camera while the 10 has a 12MP camera. It shoots @12mP in 4:3. The wide-screen mode is a cropped version of the 12MP and still is a lot more MP than the m8. Also the screen is a much higher resolution than the m8 so the same pictures from the m8 would take up less space.
Honestly the phone is solid. Battery is great. Been using mine for a couple days now.
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I'll get mine on Monday I hope.
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xs11e said:
I'm considering the G5, hoping someone will unlock the bootloader. I suspect people with newer phones haven't encountered the battery problems I have with my M8 (my LAST PHONE with a non-removable battery!) which is over 3 years old, the battery was fine until around 30 days ago...
I hit the sack around 11 PM and connect the phone to the charger, I get up at 7 AM and take the phone off the charger. When new, I could often get to 10 PM w/o recharging, recently I have to recharge TWICE during the day and today I noticed the phone won't charge more than 85%!
So now my options are: Replace battery, this involves losing the phone for some days and spending a bunch of bucks or new phone, again a bunch of bucks or buying a used phone from Swappa, again a bunch of bucks all of which would never have happened if I could only remove the old battery and slide in a new one!
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Got my G5, great phone. I miss unlocked boot loader, root and custom roms but that may come later...
So adios to the M8 forums and THANKS for all the help, advice and ROMs from some amazing devs.
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