I've been having this overnight battery drain. I've deleted apps, checked which setting is causing it and nothing. Last night I went to sleep with 91% and woke up with 62%. My thoughts are to reset the phone but I'd like to use all the alternatives before doing that.
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Do you use Adguard? Newest version killed my battery. Back to 2.1 something and all is good
rquinn19 said:
Do you use Adguard? Newest version killed my battery. Back to 2.1 something and all is good
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I'm on marshmallow btw... 100% stock. It appears doze is not doing much. Instead it's draining the battery overnight.
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Go to apps, and up in the right hand corner, click the 3 dot menu and click Configure Apps, and look and see which apps can ignore optimizations. An app that cam ignore optimizations is one that ignors Doze. Then under the General tab in settings, go check your memory. Another thing is a Ghost app. Some ghost apps are very good at running without your knowledge or the systems knowledge. To check, let your phone sit overnight in safe mode starting with 100% battery. This will disable all third party apps, including ghost apps or suspicious apps. To put it in safe mode.
With your device ON.
HOLD the power button till you see the options for power off, restart, or airplane mode.
Then tap and hold Power Off untill it pops up a dialogue confirming you want to restart your phone into Safe Mode and click yes. Once booted into safe mode let it sit with no apps running over night. If your battery is drained in the morning, then you have a technical problem. If its not drained, then you have a rogue third party app.
Shadow Assassin said:
Go to apps, and up in the right hand corner, click the 3 dot menu and click Configure Apps, and look and see which apps can ignore optimizations. An app that cam ignore optimizations is one that ignors Doze. Then under the General tab in settings, go check your memory. Another thing is a Ghost app. Some ghost apps are very good at running without your knowledge or the systems knowledge. To check, let your phone sit overnight in safe mode starting with 100% battery. This will disable all third party apps, including ghost apps or suspicious apps. To put it in safe mode.
With your device ON.
HOLD the power button till you see the options for power off, restart, or airplane mode.
Then tap and hold Power Off untill it pops up a dialogue confirming you want to restart your phone into Safe Mode and click yes. Once booted into safe mode let it sit with no apps running over night. If your battery is drained in the morning, then you have a technical problem. If its not drained, then you have a rogue third party app.
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I checked the ignore optimization list and everything is normal. The only ones that are checked are the default ones. I checked the memory and its normal. Android Os is taking the most. Last thing to do is the safemode part to see if a ghost app is running. Let's suppose is a ghost app whats causing troubles. How I detect it and delete it?
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manny18pr said:
I checked the ignore optimization list and everything is normal. The only ones that are checked are the default ones. I checked the memory and its normal. Android Os is taking the most. Last thing to do is the safemode part to see if a ghost app is running. Let's suppose is a ghost app whats causing troubles. How I detect it and delete it?
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Its hard. My sisters S5 had one that was a widget that looked like her settings icon on her home screen but didnt show up in All Apps, but when you dragged it up to app info, it made it look like a system app. So check your home screens, then go (unfortunately) delete recent third party apps youv downloaded if not all of them.
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Its hard. My sisters S5 had one that was a widget that looked like her settings icon on her home screen but didnt show up in All Apps, but when you dragged it up to app info, it made it look like a system app. So check your home screens, then go (unfortunately) delete recent third party apps youv downloaded if not all of them.
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I've deleted some apps. Let's see if it is solved
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Shadow Assassin said:
Its hard. My sisters S5 had one that was a widget that looked like her settings icon on her home screen but didnt show up in All Apps, but when you dragged it up to app info, it made it look like a system app. So check your home screens, then go (unfortunately) delete recent third party apps youv downloaded if not all of them.
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Found the app. Deleted it and let the phone sit back all night. From 82% woke up at 74%. I think that's pretty normal.
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manny18pr said:
Found the app. Deleted it and let the phone sit back all night. From 82% woke up at 74%. I think that's pretty normal.
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Yup, good to see your operational.
The issue is happening again. My only alternative is to reset the phone to defaults. One time it even drain the battery overnight in battery saving mode.
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manny18pr said:
The issue is happening again. My only alternative is to reset the phone to defaults. One time it even drain the battery overnight in battery saving mode.
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Yea, do the reset, if that doesnt work, you are now looking at some serious problems. Even in lolliepop you could put your phone on stand by for a while and still have pretty decent battery. Your looking at a bad MM install, a constant running cpu (hardware problem) or one heck of a fluke (hopfully).
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Yea, do the reset, if that doesnt work, you are now looking at some serious problems. Even in lolliepop you could put your phone on stand by for a while and still have pretty decent battery. Your looking at a bad MM install, a constant running cpu (hardware problem) or one heck of a fluke (hopfully).
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Yeah. My hopes are that some random app or something messed up the doze function on MM. And when the phone is in standby overnight it's not doing what it's supposed to do.
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Hey,
a few weeks ago I posted here about having severe battery issues which fixed themselves in the end.
Now the issue keeps occurring but thanks to "BetterBatteryStats" I pinned down the service that is responsible.
Only Issue: How do I shut that bad boy down?
The process I am talking about is named "GTALK_ASYNC_CONN_com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.AndroidEndpoint"
well, of course after seeing this I disabled Account Sync and Google Talk(few days ago) which didn't do anything.
Then I downloaded "Autorun Manager" and disabled some of the processes that were titled "gtalk..." withing Google Services Framework.
Of course, that did not do anything.
Could anyone of you please explain what the - is happening?
These Wakelocks started occuring just some weeks ago and even across different roms.
Thank you in advance.
bobdowl said:
Hey,
a few weeks ago I posted here about having severe battery issues which fixed themselves in the end.
Now the issue keeps occurring but thanks to "BetterBatteryStats" I pinned down the service that is responsible.
Only Issue: How do I shut that bad boy down?
The process I am talking about is named "GTALK_ASYNC_CONN_com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.AndroidEndpoint"
well, of course after seeing this I disabled Account Sync and Google Talk(few days ago) which didn't do anything.
Then I downloaded "Autorun Manager" and disabled some of the processes that were titled "gtalk..." withing Google Services Framework.
Of course, that did not do anything.
Could anyone of you please explain what the - is happening?
These Wakelocks started occuring just some weeks ago and even across different roms.
Thank you in advance.
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Have you disabled Google backup?
If not, do so.
Settings > Privacy
Uncheck backup device.
polobunny said:
Have you disabled Google backup?
If not, do so.
Settings > Privacy
Uncheck backup device.
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Just did this and will report back.
(Although I don't like deleting all my backup on google servers)
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Just did this and will report back.
(Although I don't like deleting all my backup on google servers)
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I had this issue in the past where my phone wouldn't go to sleep and this was one of the culprits. Hope it helps you. =)
May be too early to tell but phone still seems to be kept awake by something.
I still appreciate the advice!
bobdowl said:
May be too early to tell but phone still seems to be kept awake by something.
I still appreciate the advice!
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Still GTALK_ASYNC_CONN? Make sure to reboot + plug and unplug phone after you've unchecked the backup so the BetterBatteryStats reset and you get a good reading instead of just guessing outright.
I just checked the normal battery stats and saw it was awake after I had the screen off for about 2 hours.
Just checked again still awake.
bobdowl said:
I just checked the normal battery stats and saw it was awake after I had the screen off for about 2 hours.
Just checked again still awake.
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Was it just a small bar or was it a long one? Screenshot would really help there.
Hey, sorry quite a busy day/night.
Here is the screenshot I took just now.
I forgot to turn off WiFi overnight, but still too much awake.
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Hey, sorry quite a busy day/night.
Here is the screenshot I took just now.
I forgot to turn off WiFi overnight, but still too much awake.
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Whoa wtf, lot of activity there. Can you just back one screen and show me the processes and their % of battery use, as well as another log with BetterBatteryStats?
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Whoa wtf, lot of activity there. Can you just back one screen and show me the processes and their % of battery use, as well as another log with BetterBatteryStats?
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Google Services using most (29%) of it (followed by Cell standby 16%)
BBB:
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Google Services using most (29%) of it (followed by Cell standby 16%)
BBB:
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Yikes! That's a lot.
Have you tried logging out of Latitude in Google Maps? Check that.
Also, try disabling "Use wireless networks" in Location & security settings.
As a last resort, you can freeze Google maps and reboot and see if it helps.
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Yikes! That's a lot.
Have you tried logging out of Latitude in Google Maps? Check that.
Also, try disabling "Use wireless networks" in Location & security settings.
As a last resort, you can freeze Google maps and reboot and see if it helps.
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Just logged out of Latitude and disabled the Wireless Network option, will report back as soon as something happens.
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Just logged out of Latitude and disabled the Wireless Network option, will report back as soon as something happens.
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Latitude was logged in? That's one of the biggest drain about Maps! I should have asked you earlier. Hopefully this fixes your problem for good. You can re-enable the wireless networks location option if you see you need it.
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Latitude was logged in? That's one of the biggest drain about Maps! I should have asked you earlier. Hopefully this fixes your problem for good. You can re-enable the wireless networks location option if you see you need it.
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Battery ran low and I let it charge overnight.
It's 35minutes off the charger and seems to still be awake occasionally. (Too early to tell really)
Will report back asap.
EDIT: Completed the battery cycle and it was still awake all the time.
This is really frustrating.
I really hate to [BUMP] threads but I want to start a last effort and hope someone sees this and may know the cause.
I also uninstalled Google Maps completely which didn't change anything.
Still the same things in battery info and betterbatterystats?
Edit: Are you logged out of Google Talk?
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Still the same things in battery info and betterbatterystats?
Edit: Are you logged out of Google Talk?
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Yes, nothing new so far, same battery usage/wakelocks by the same processes.
I have completely disabled Google Talk.
try to disable settings -> audio -> touch sounds and screen lock sound.
bobdowl said:
Yes, nothing new so far, same battery usage/wakelocks by the same processes.
I have completely disabled Google Talk.
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You mean you have logged out or you have frozen/uninstalled it?
Something else you can try, a bit of a hassle, but you can:
-Make sure backup is disabled for your phone
-Remove Google account
-Re-add Google account
After rooting I have noticed that after a while when I open the camera app, it no longer takes pics when tapping on the screen. I can pull up the menu and try to hit the camera button, that also does nothing, same with even the back button. This is a huge deal breaker, if I can't fix this the phone is going back.
Rooted apps running:
Titanium Backup (de-bloat)
Xposed
G3 Tweakbox
AutoHide Soft Keys
If someone could recreate this and help me out that would be awesome! until then back to the Note 3! Please note that it takes a few times of opening the camera app for this to occur, also after rebooting the phone it seems to work for one or two pics once in a while.
KrInEn said:
After rooting I have noticed that after a while when I open the camera app, it no longer takes pics when tapping on the screen. I can pull up the menu and try to hit the camera button, that also does nothing, same with even the back button. This is a huge deal breaker, if I can't fix this the phone is going back.
Rooted apps running:
Titanium Backup (de-bloat)
Xposed
G3 Tweakbox
AutoHide Soft Keys
If someone could recreate this and help me out that would be awesome! until then back to the Note 3! Please note that it takes a few times of opening the camera app for this to occur, also after rebooting the phone it seems to work for one or two pics once in a while.
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Have you tried disabling all modules on Xposed and tried every tweak one at time? are you using an app for the Autohide Soft Keys or are you using the built in feature?
I don't have problems with the camera and have similar configuration.
fgarcia10 said:
Have you tried disabling all modules on Xposed and tried every tweak one at time? are you using an app for the Autohide Soft Keys or are you using the built in feature?
I don't have problems with the camera and have similar configuration.
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I am using an app for the auto hide. For some reason the stock hide does not allow you to hide them in apps like Messages, or in the launcher. kinda dumb those are where I want it to hide the most.
First off, it is likely something that you have loaded (or removed) since rooting that has caused the issue.
What apps did you de-bloat? It is possible that you removed or froze something that is required for normal camera operations.
Do you have any of the "Camera Tweaks" selected in the G3 TweaksBox module (if so, I recommend that you deselect them and reboot).
If that doesn't work, I would suggest turning off and removing the "autohide softkeys" module. That isn't a common module for G3 users and it may be interfering with the normal operation of the phone.
Second off, you shouldn't return the phone because you messed it up. You were willing to root and modify your phone, so it is on you to fix it (especially when it is so easy to do). Worse case scenario, you should return it back to the original stock image and start over. For more information on how to do this, please read over this thread....... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2799647
If none of this works, you return the phone back to stock and it still doesn't work right, then it might be a hardware issue. If this is the case, then you should return the phone. But only after exhausting all other avenues and only after returning the phone back to stock and testing to see if the problem still exists. You have to return the phone back to stock in order to return it anyway.
Here is a question, when you are in the camera app do you have the menu up? Start with teh simplest things, rule them out and work your way up to find the problem.
If it looks like this, you have to hit the camera icon
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If it looks like this, screen touch
Rooting does cause issues with the camera. I haven't done anything but root and the camera doesn't allow for the touch to take a picture and it also messes with the menu and edit options. As a matter of fact, if you remove or disable Google+ you have NO edit options. You can find a third party app to use in place of this, but it does mess up the camera edit functions.
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Rooting does cause issues with the camera. I haven't done anything but root and the camera doesn't allow for the touch to take a picture and it also messes with the menu and edit options. As a matter of fact, if you remove or disable Google+ you have NO edit options. You can find a third party app to use in place of this, but it does mess up the camera edit functions.
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I'm rooted and the camera is working just as it did before.
KrInEn said:
After rooting I have noticed that after a while when I open the camera app, it no longer takes pics when tapping on the screen. I can pull up the menu and try to hit the camera button, that also does nothing, same with even the back button. This is a huge deal breaker, if I can't fix this the phone is going back.
Rooted apps running:
Titanium Backup (de-bloat)
Xposed
G3 Tweakbox
AutoHide Soft Keys
If someone could recreate this and help me out that would be awesome! until then back to the Note 3! Please note that it takes a few times of opening the camera app for this to occur, also after rebooting the phone it seems to work for one or two pics once in a while.
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I have deleted Busybox and Odn pro. The problem was solved. For navbar hide i use g3 tweakbox.
droidiac13 said:
Rooting does cause issues with the camera. I haven't done anything but root and the camera doesn't allow for the touch to take a picture and it also messes with the menu and edit options. As a matter of fact, if you remove or disable Google+ you have NO edit options. You can find a third party app to use in place of this, but it does mess up the camera edit functions.
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ScooterG said:
I'm rooted and the camera is working just as it did before.
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Looks like its apps that hide nav bar that cause camera not to work.. at least in my limited experience (VZW G3)
Off to try G3 tweaks to hide nav bar
Same Problem
KrInEn said:
After rooting I have noticed that after a while when I open the camera app, it no longer takes pics when tapping on the screen. I can pull up the menu and try to hit the camera button, that also does nothing, same with even the back button. This is a huge deal breaker, if I can't fix this the phone is going back.
Rooted apps running:
Titanium Backup (de-bloat)
Xposed
G3 Tweakbox
AutoHide Soft Keys
If someone could recreate this and help me out that would be awesome! until then back to the Note 3! Please note that it takes a few times of opening the camera app for this to occur, also after rebooting the phone it seems to work for one or two pics once in a while.
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I have the same problem as you, and I'm fairly sure it's because of the auto hide soft keys. Something goes wrong when it is enabled, but disabling it makes the camera app work just fine. I've reverted to using the google camera app, but it sometimes takes a few seconds to snap a photo...
I am receiving push notifications normally on my Huawei Mediapad x2 until it is Idle for an hour or so.. I receive notifications from Whatsapp normally but after an hour of standby (or even less than an hour), I don't receive notifications anymore unless I open Whatsapp by myself, then I start receiving them again normally. Whereas Facebook for example, when I installed it first, I received notifications normally, but then I do not receive any notification from Facebook anymore unless I launch the app manually. But then Will not receive notifications again until I launch it manually again. Several apps behave like Facebook as well. BUT I DO receive notifications from all apps whenever I use Wifi!
Note that all my Notifications settings are normal, and I've set these apps to launch automatically when the system starts up.
I am a newbie to Android, I am not rooted, updated to 6.0 OTA. Please help!
I wish I could help you, but unfortunately, my notifications have been iffy since I bought the phone in Dec 2015. I'm running stock B112.
Gmail seems to provide instant notifications, especially on Wifi, but notifications on Facebook Messenger are always delayed...I usually have to open the app, at which point it refreshes and starts buzzing with messages one by one until the messages are all loaded. Whatsapp is similar, with notifications appearing on the status bar only rarely. Opening up the app however begins to load and display all messages.
I've tried everything I can, including going into the app settings and allowing all permissions, as well as turning off any of the battery life saver features that might be delaying the notifications. No dice.
Talal.k said:
I am receiving push notifications normally on my Huawei Mediapad x2 until it is Idle for an hour or so.. I receive notifications from Whatsapp normally but after an hour of standby (or even less than an hour), I don't receive notifications anymore unless I open Whatsapp by myself, then I start receiving them again normally. Whereas Facebook for example, when I installed it first, I received notifications normally, but then I do not receive any notification from Facebook anymore unless I launch the app manually. But then Will not receive notifications again until I launch it manually again. Several apps behave like Facebook as well. BUT I DO receive notifications from all apps whenever I use Wifi!
Note that all my Notifications settings are normal, and I've set these apps to launch automatically when the system starts up.
I am a newbie to Android, I am not rooted, updated to 6.0 OTA. Please help!
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I am on B112 on stock unrooted 703L and I don't experience this issue. Make sure you don't close the alp via square open apps button. Huawei kills any app if you do that or close all, even if it's protected
Thank you guys for your support. I have done a Data factory reset, and I still suffer from the same issue when the phone goes into deep sleep, I do not receive notifications anymore from any 3rd party apps. Any other suggestions please?
There's an option in system settings that allows you to keep apps alive, even when the phone has gone to sleep. You need to find that option either in the settings menu, or in the "phone manager app". I've never experience problem with apps that I've "mark/tick" to keep alive.
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There's an option in system settings that allows you to keep apps alive, even when the phone has gone to sleep. You need to find that option either in the settings menu, or in the "phone manager app". I've never experience problem with apps that I've "mark/tick" to keep alive.
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I have tried.. All settings are correct but still no fix
I think I have the same problem concerning WhatsApp, Wear Messages for my Smartwach and constant pulse measuring with Mi Band Tools.
All of them are only working when I open them manually and if I don't close them via square button to free my RAM and even then they don't work all the time.
I just recently updated from stock B112 to B211 but it is still the same.
I went through all options in every settings menu but it didn't help.
I also tried the app Phone Notification Fixer No Root with no success.
I don't know what else to do.
Maybe a Custom Rom would help.
I really like this phone but this "bug" makes it pretty useless.
Do you have any 3rd party task killer apps installed? Your apps are getting killed when your screen turns off.
Phone Manager -> Battery Manager -> Protected Apps. Turn ON for all those apps.
No, I have no extra task killer and I already protected all apps. I found another older thread here with people who have the same problem and one mentioned it would be a general Huawei problem with the phone manager.
In the same thread I read that you can protect opened apps in the app drawer (square button) when you pull them down. Testing this at the moment and it seems to do the trick. But I will probably test a Custom ROM tomorrow.
LaVey666 said:
No, I have no extra task killer and I already protected all apps. I found another older thread here with people who have the same problem and one mentioned it would be a general Huawei problem with the phone manager.
In the same thread I read that you can protect opened apps in the app drawer (square button) when you pull them down. Testing this at the moment and it seems to do the trick. But I will probably test a Custom ROM tomorrow.
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If that works for you then it seems what your original issue is that YOU are killing your apps manually using the square button - read my quote below which I wrote here a few days ago already.
E--Man said:
I am on B112 on stock unrooted 703L and I don't experience this issue. Make sure you don't close the alp via square open apps button. Huawei kills any app if you do that or close all, even if it's protected
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I already stopped killing WhatsApp etc via Square before but after some time they stopped working again, maybe because of some timeout?
Edit: Here is a link to the thread I mentioned before http://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-x2/help/flaw-huawei-phone-manager-recent-apps-t3312462
LaVey666 said:
I already stopped killing WhatsApp etc via Square before but after some time they stopped working again, maybe because of some timeout?
Edit: Here is a link to the thread I mentioned before http://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-x2/help/flaw-huawei-phone-manager-recent-apps-t3312462
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That is MY thread. I was able to overcome this by not killing apps via square button. If you want even better results, make the app a system app
Ah ok, sorry, I didn't look at the usernames. Well than thank you for the help
To make an app a system app I need root I guess?
I have this same issue but it's not restricted to Wifi (read on).
As others have pointed out, there used to be a setting that would allow programs to run in the background once your phone sleeps (screen off), but this was taken out in Marshmallow anyways. Even with it in lollipop the phone still does this. This is a direct consequence of both Android and EMUI, both of which have stringent algorithms intended to manage resources and save power, so that applications get pre-empted after a certain period of inactivity. This affects Whatsapp, Google hangouts, etc. Actually most of my notifications for these apps only show up after I manually launch them. This means I always miss whatsapp and Hangouts calls. ALWAYS!
So long story short, to get your notifications, just open the respective apps (manually) and they should come through (that is until Android / EMUI decide to clear them from memory).
Also, it would help if you avoid closing these apps using the trash icon at the multi tasking UI.
Hope this helps. I know its annoying, but I wouldn't give up my X2 for another phone
shassouneh said:
I have this same issue but it's not restricted to Wifi (read on).
As others have pointed out, there used to be a setting that would allow programs to run in the background once your phone sleeps (screen off), but this was taken out in Marshmallow anyways. Even with it in lollipop the phone still does this. This is a direct consequence of both Android and EMUI, both of which have stringent algorithms intended to manage resources and save power, so that applications get pre-empted after a certain period of inactivity. This affects Whatsapp, Google hangouts, etc. Actually most of my notifications for these apps only show up after I manually launch them. This means I always miss whatsapp and Hangouts calls. ALWAYS!
So long story short, to get your notifications, just open the respective apps (manually) and they should come through (that is until Android / EMUI decide to clear them from memory).
Also, it would help if you avoid closing these apps using the trash icon at the multi tasking UI.
Hope this helps. I know its annoying, but I wouldn't give up my X2 for another phone
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First off, you can still set apps ad "Protected Apps" in Marshmallow, see my post above. Also, my protected apps don't get killed unless I use the square button (which you referred to as the trash in your post). What other apps are u running that make the OS memory cleanup kill your apps?
A short update from my side:
Switched from stock B211 to KangVIP B211, still had the same "issues".
Tried the advice to make certain apps system apps.
Tried it with a app called "/system/app mover" which is free.
Moved WhatsApp, Android Wear and Mi Band Tools to system apps.
Now everything works like I know it from other phones before.
I can kill every app with the built in taskkiller (square button) and I still get notifications from whatsapp etc. instantly. Mi Band Tools constant pulse measuring also working and so does my smartwatch.
Thanks to all the people here for their guides/hints/etc., otherwise I had to sell my X2.
Don't know if I would buy a Huawei/Honor again tough.
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First off, you can still set apps ad "Protected Apps" in Marshmallow, see my post above. Also, my protected apps don't get killed unless I use the square button (which you referred to as the trash in your post). What other apps are u running that make the OS memory cleanup kill your apps?
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Pretty much any app that consumes resources. For example: Chrome with multiple tabs, or Mortal Kombat X.
I also want to point out the behavior definitely repro's if I use the little trash icon (its not square, but it shows up when you use the square button to bring up recent apps), but even if I DON'T use it, Android/EMUI will eventually kill off background apps REGARDLESS OF IF THEY ARE IN THE PROTECTED LIST OR NOT.
This causes a problem with apps that need to always run, such as Whatsapp and Hangouts, where incoming texts/calls almost never make it through since the OS/skin decided to recycle their resources.
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A short update from my side:
Switched from stock B211 to KangVIP B211, still had the same "issues".
Tried the advice to make certain apps system apps.
Tried it with a app called "/system/app mover" which is free.
Moved WhatsApp, Android Wear and Mi Band Tools to system apps.
Now everything works like I know it from other phones before.
I can kill every app with the built in taskkiller (square button) and I still get notifications from whatsapp etc. instantly. Mi Band Tools constant pulse measuring also working and so does my smartwatch.
Thanks to all the people here for their guides/hints/etc., otherwise I had to sell my X2.
Don't know if I would buy a Huawei/Honor again tough.
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Couldn't get this to work. I installed system app mover and made sure I gate it root permissions. However it keeps complaining about busybox not found. I installed busybox as well, still no dice.
Instead I used Titanium Backup pro version (had to pay $6) and had to reboot after each app (Titanium kept hanging at processing but it worked anyways).
That didn't solve the core problem though. I rebooted the phone, made sure to close all apps, and attempted to dial my number.
Hangouts didn't receive the call because it's not "running". When I manually launched hangouts it complained about having to re-install itself. It then opened the google play store and the only option was to "open" it. Again, it refuses to open and keeps saying it needs to re-install itself.
There has GOT to be a way to get apps to act as services. This alone is forcing me to reconsider the X2 as a viable "phone"....
Thanx
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Pretty much any app that consumes resources. For example: Chrome with multiple tabs, or Mortal Kombat X.
I also want to point out the behavior definitely repro's if I use the little trash icon (its not square, but it shows up when you use the square button to bring up recent apps), but even if I DON'T use it, Android/EMUI will eventually kill off background apps REGARDLESS OF IF THEY ARE IN THE PROTECTED LIST OR NOT.
This causes a problem with apps that need to always run, such as Whatsapp and Hangouts, where incoming texts/calls almost never make it through since the OS/skin decided to recycle their resources.
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Couldn't get this to work. I installed system app mover and made sure I gate it root permissions. However it keeps complaining about busybox not found. I installed busybox as well, still no dice.
Instead I used Titanium Backup pro version (had to pay $6) and had to reboot after each app (Titanium kept hanging at processing but it worked anyways).
That didn't solve the core problem though. I rebooted the phone, made sure to close all apps, and attempted to dial my number.
Hangouts didn't receive the call because it's not "running". When I manually launched hangouts it complained about having to re-install itself. It then opened the google play store and the only option was to "open" it. Again, it refuses to open and keeps saying it needs to re-install itself.
There has GOT to be a way to get apps to act as services. This alone is forcing me to reconsider the X2 as a viable "phone"....
Thanx
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Hi, I just stumbled across a setting which *might* be your problem. Go to Phone Manager -> Battery Manager, and click on the gear icon in the top-right corner which will open a settings menu. You will get the menu in the screenshot below. Make sure the option "Close excessively power-intensive apps" is OFF
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Hi, I just stumbled across a setting which *might* be your problem. Go to Phone Manager -> Battery Manager, and click on the gear icon in the top-right corner which will open a settings menu. You will get the menu in the screenshot below. Make sure the option "Close excessively power-intensive apps" is OFF
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Thanks for the tip. This is already off though and the behavior still repro's.
I'm starting to believe its the Android OS itself. I did a test on an entirely different device running an entirely different OEM skin (Verizon Note 4 running oTA marshmallow) and tried opening multiple games and chrome tabs. Sure enough, even with roughly 200 to 300MB of free RAM, the OS stepped in and killed what it deemed to be "not needed". I should also point out that Hangouts notifications work just fine on the Note 4, which leads me to believe EMUI and its Nazi-like power consumption tricks may also have something to do with this.
Since I upgraded to android 12 the battery information does not work correctly.
Does anyone know how to fix it?
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I have this problem as well after debloating. It's driving me nuts, hopefully someone can list out what you shouldn't debloat in order for this battery usage to works.
I had exactly the same problem but in my case I still don't know if it was after debloating. Following a list in a Spanish forum, I removed several system apps and disabled others when I was still on Android 11, then I received the update to Android 12 + Realme UI 3.0 and everything seemed to work perfectly. I decided to do a factory reset only because there are functions not available like background streaming but I think it is due to the market where you bought the phone (in my case, Spain).
After that factory reset I discovered that the battery app had the same error that you mention. So I did a hard reset from the realme recovery menu but before that I tried, unsuccessfully, to "force quit" the battery app and also clear the cache. Only the new reset solved the battery problem but brought a new one: I couldn't install apps from unknown sources.
So I did a third and final factory reset, like the first time from the settings menu, and right now I think my phone is fully functional again. I did a new bloatware cleanup with ADB AppControl but less intense than the first two times, although the problem I had with the battery didn't happen with the second reset and on that occasion I was more demanding with the debloat.
The only thing that worries me now also has to do with the battery app in realme UI 3.0. Is it normal for the "battery usage" list of apps to take a few minutes to update? In realme UI 2.0 it was pretty much instantaneous, I'm worried I've broken something forever with the debloat and the factory reset. Here you have a screenshot with my battery usage after the third reset and without debloating.
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I had exactly the same problem but in my case I still don't know if it was after debloating. Following a list in a Spanish forum, I removed several system apps and disabled others when I was still on Android 11, then I received the update to Android 12 + Realme UI 3.0 and everything seemed to work perfectly. I decided to do a factory reset only because there are functions not available like background streaming but I think it is due to the market where you bought the phone (in my case, Spain).
After that factory reset I discovered that the battery app had the same error that you mention. So I did a hard reset from the realme recovery menu but before that I tried, unsuccessfully, to "force quit" the battery app and also clear the cache. Only the new reset solved the battery problem but brought a new one: I couldn't install apps from unknown sources.
So I did a third and final factory reset, like the first time from the settings menu, and right now I think my phone is fully functional again. I did a new bloatware cleanup with ADB AppControl but less intense than the first two times, although the problem I had with the battery didn't happen with the second reset and on that occasion I was more demanding with the debloat.
The only thing that worries me now also has to do with the battery app in realme UI 3.0. Is it normal for the "battery usage" list of apps to take a few minutes to update? In realme UI 2.0 it was pretty much instantaneous, I'm worried I've broken something forever with the debloat and the factory reset. Here you have a screenshot with my battery usage after the third reset and without debloating.
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It sucks but debloating definitely had something to do with it. I did factory reset too and now it's fine. Also had the late update on battery usage stats but I think it will work out after some times, let the phone stabilise itself and all that.
I haven't debloated mine atm so I'm wondering what have you removed while still having the battery usage working fine? Would be nice to know since I can't be bothered resetting again. I hope I can at least safely debloat most google stuff and lock screen magazine.
@NotAnotherRookie This is what I have uninstalled (and disabled) with ADB AppControl for now:
com.android.chrome
com.coloros.childrenspace
com.coloros.systemclone
com.google.android.feedback
com.google.android.marvin.talkback
com.google.android.youtube
com.heytap.music
com.google.android.printservice.recommendation (disabled)
com.google.android.tts (disabled)
com.oppo.quicksearchbox (disabled)
The original list is longer but there are google services that I use on a daily basis. There are also system apps (oppo, realme, coloros... Even one from mediatek? (com.mediatek.omacp)) that I don't want to remove in case it could be the source of the problem, although my battery app bug only started with the first factory reset. Also, I don't know if it's normal but with each reset almost all the deleted apps came back (another user of that forum told me that for him only the disabled apps returned). These are apps that I deleted in Realme UI 2.0 that have not returned:
com.heytap.openid
com.oplus.obrain
com.coloros.healthservice
com.nearme.statistics.rom
com.coloros.locationproxy (I've seen this with different names: oppo and oplus instead of coloros)
About the delay of battery app, do you remember if before the debloat your phone quickly updated the battery usage stats even if it was only seconds? I have tested it with a Realme 6 Pro (UI 2.0) and almost all the apps I used appeared instantly even if they had only been in foreground for 10 seconds. Perhaps it is because the battery app menu is different in 2.0, there is a secondary menu to check usage stats and there is a small refresh time when accessing it.
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@NotAnotherRookie This is what I have uninstalled (and disabled) with ADB AppControl for now:
com.android.chrome
com.coloros.childrenspace
com.coloros.systemclone
com.google.android.feedback
com.google.android.marvin.talkback
com.google.android.youtube
com.heytap.music
com.google.android.printservice.recommendation (disabled)
com.google.android.tts (disabled)
com.oppo.quicksearchbox (disabled)
The original list is longer but there are google services that I use on a daily basis. There are also system apps (oppo, realme, coloros... Even one from mediatek? (com.mediatek.omacp)) that I don't want to remove in case it could be the source of the problem, although my battery app bug only started with the first factory reset. Also, I don't know if it's normal but with each reset almost all the deleted apps came back (another user of that forum told me that for him only the disabled apps returned). These are apps that I deleted in Realme UI 2.0 that have not returned:
com.heytap.openid
com.oplus.obrain
com.coloros.healthservice
com.nearme.statistics.rom
com.coloros.locationproxy (I've seen this with different names: oppo and oplus instead of coloros)
About the delay of battery app, do you remember if before the debloat your phone quickly updated the battery usage stats even if it was only seconds? I have tested it with a Realme 6 Pro (UI 2.0) and almost all the apps I used appeared instantly even if they had only been in foreground for 10 seconds. Perhaps it is because the battery app menu is different in 2.0, there is a secondary menu to check usage stats and there is a small refresh time when accessing it.
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Alright thanks for that. I also kinda feel that we shouldn't debloat all of the coloros, oplus etc since it seems like scumbag realme decided to make everything connected so if you disable one of them everything just stop working hence this battery usage issue. It wasn't like that in 2.0 as you can just debloat everything from the xda guide list and are fine.
The delay is definitely after the debloat. Right now I haven't debloat anything and battery usage works just fine. I feel that this is something that will get better the more updates we get, until then this is it for us. Just gotta ride along.
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The delay is definitely after the debloat. Right now I haven't debloat anything and battery usage works just fine. I feel that this is something that will get better the more updates we get, until then this is it for us. Just gotta ride along.
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I'm not sure, the screenshot I shared was without any debloat and there was definitely some waiting time or delay between using any app and being able to see it in the stats. When you say "battery usage works just fine" do you mean that, in addition to being able to see the hours of 'screen on' and all that, there is a small delay for the stats to update or is it immediate for you?
Excuse me for asking the same thing so many times, my concerns with this phone are the battery app and notifications from whatsapp, telegram, discord... (some sound a few minutes later and others don't appear until I open the app).
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I'm not sure, the screenshot I shared was without any debloat and there was definitely some waiting time or delay between using any app and being able to see it in the stats. When you say "battery usage works just fine" do you mean that, in addition to being able to see the hours of 'screen on' and all that, there is a small delay for the stats to update or is it immediate for you?
Excuse me for asking the same thing so many times, my concerns with this phone are the battery app and notifications from whatsapp, telegram, discord... (some sound a few minutes later and others don't appear until I open the app).
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Right I have not debloat and it doesn't have any delay. For your issue, i think you need to go to the apps you're using, App info>battery usage>allow background activity>enable it.
This should fix the delayed notification.
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Right I have not debloat and it doesn't have any delay. For your issue, i think you need to go to the apps you're using, App info>battery usage>allow background activity>enable it.
This should fix the delayed notification.
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Yeah, that's what I've been doing and the only thing I get is that the notification (the popup) sounds two minutes later. It is very strange, as if the message arrived on my phone in time but it forgets to notify me. Other times it is instant.
The battery app dilemma is not the end of the world but I am worried that I have damaged something. If a new problem appears over the days, I'll do another reset and this time I won't delete anything again. Thanks and another question, what tool did you use for the debloat?
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Yeah, that's what I've been doing and the only thing I get is that the notification (the popup) sounds two minutes later. It is very strange, as if the message arrived on my phone in time but it forgets to notify me. Other times it is instant.
The battery app dilemma is not the end of the world but I am worried that I have damaged something. If a new problem appears over the days, I'll do another reset and this time I won't delete anything again. Thanks and another question, what tool did you use for the debloat?
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I just follow the rui 2.0 debloat guide on this group.
I bought a pixel 7 pro and I admit that I am really disappointed. The camera it is true is of quality but otherwise many problems for me. The most annoying thing is the total absence of notification from the messaging applications or the SMS application. Otherwise the sound works correctly, general sound, alarm sound and even notification from the google photos application which tells me what I have memories of the past. Today I made the last update hoping that finally my problem would be solved but not at all and instead while it was working previously the applications which are reduced disappear and I no longer have the possibility of close open applications it's as if I had not launched any application, the list is empty. Does anyone have the same problems as me?
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If you took the latest OTA, just factory reset the phone. I have none of the problems you are experiencing. I suspect you disabled some settings for notifications. Do yourself a favor and factory restore the phone. It's one of the best phones I have used.
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If you took the latest OTA, just factory reset the phone. I have none of the problems you are experiencing. I suspect you disabled some settings for notifications. Do yourself a favor and factory restore the phone. It's one of the best phones I have used.
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The problem is that I already did a factory reset 2 months ago and it didn't change anything. Believe me, I checked all notification settings and everything is enabled even in the app itself. I just got one from google photos and it's the only app I've seen on AOD since I got the phone. I never had another. it's a really mysterious problem. I know that in the end I will end up doing another factory reset because I don't really see any other solution otherwise I would bring the phone back to the store
Uninstall Pixel Launcher updates from Play Store and install it back
had the same problem and thanks to
nomfway i fixed it see post 2103 here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ixel-7-pro-cheetah-safetynet.4502805/page-106
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Uninstall Pixel Launcher updates from Play Store and install it back
had the same problem and thanks to
nomfway i fixed it see post 2103 here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/march-13-2023-tq2a-230305-008-c1-global-a3-windtre-canada-unlock-bootloader-root-pixel-7-pro-cheetah-safetynet.4502805/solved mypage-106
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Thank you very much it solved my problem about recent apps disappeared
Some settings are also backed up with your Google account so it is possible that maybe done of your notification settings are persisting due to restored backups.
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I bought a pixel 7 pro and I admit that I am really disappointed. The camera it is true is of quality but otherwise many problems for me. The most annoying thing is the total absence of notification from the messaging applications or the SMS application. Otherwise the sound works correctly, general sound, alarm sound and even notification from the google photos application which tells me what I have memories of the past. Today I made the last update hoping that finally my problem would be solved but not at all and instead while it was working previously the applications which are reduced disappear and I no longer have the possibility of close open applications it's as if I had not launched any application, the list is empty. Does anyone have the same problems as me?
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No problems like that on my 7Pro
Was that really the only problem(s) you were having? I guess we have different definitions of "so many". Thanks for the advice, boontje3, it saved OP from this train wreck of a dumpster fire phone
I almost threw my phone in the trash, glad it was fixed.
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Some settings are also backed up with your Google account so it is possible that maybe done of your notification settings are persisting due to restored backups.
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I think it may be a backup and restore problem but not at the level of the google account settings because while all the notifications are activated at the phone and application level, I don't have any except google photos . If it was a google settings problem (which I haven't changed) it shouldn't prevent messenger or telegram from working normally which is not the case. I suspect the problem is using Samsung smart swith to transfer my data and some apps from my S20+ to the Pixel 7 pro. I will redo a factory reset and reinstall my applications manually. It's true that normally that's what I do but this time for ease I used this application and maybe that's where the problem comes from. if after doing a new factory reset but this time without using smart switch to restore I still have the same problem well I think I will have to turn to a hardware problem or my phone is haunted
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Was that really the only problem(s) you were having? I guess we have different definitions of "so many". Thanks for the advice, boontje3, it saved OP from this train wreck of a dumpster fire phone
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Well having a phone that does not receive any notifications even from the basic SMS application is still a serious problem for me. Moreover, this is not the only problem noted. For example I use smart launcher which allows to save the configuration of the launcher. The feature works perfectly on the S20+ but not at all for me with the pixel 7 pro while they are both on Android 13. and during the last update I had to uninstall and reinstall the basic launcher of google because closing recent applications was no longer possible as indicated above by boontje3 which doing this finaly solved the problem
Sounds more like a launcher issue? Action Launcher restored settings for me perfectly just today.
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Sounds more like a launcher issue? Action Launcher restored settings for me perfectly just today.
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Yes maybe possible but the fact remains that the functionality works on the Samsung not with the Pixel
Just tried Smart Launcher, changed some settings, saved, uninstalled, installed again, restored settings, worked perfectly. So...
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Just tried Smart Launcher, changed some settings, saved, uninstalled, installed again, restored settings, worked perfectly. So...
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So if it works normally for you, that means in the 5 or 6 google system apps that I removed using adb, like Google one or something else (nothing very special and really not much just some crap I don't want ) prevents it from working for me because it still doesn't work. On my S20+ I debloated maybe 50 or more and everything still works perfectly. I specify that the problem with the notifications has nothing to do since it is from the beginning that I have the phone long before I delete these few system app
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So, let me get this straight, you mess with the system software and then you complain that the system does not do what you expect... Ok.
The fact that on your Samsung you removed dozens of apps without a problem only tells me that it's full of really useless crap.
This will help probally, ( They are an AOSP apps, so they can work because they have their own messages prioritet.
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This will help probally, ( They are an AOSP apps, so they can work because they have their own messages prioritet.
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What is it though?
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What is it though?
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AOSP apps, they can help.
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it's full of really useless crap.
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That's the definition of Samsung!