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So after reading a bit on lots of different threads here and many other boards, I decided to pick up a couple of the LUVVITT Tempered Glass screen protectors.
I ordered from Amazon and got them for $10 each and free shipping (Prime)
I gotta say, it was the easiest install I have ever done. I started off with the hinge method but I used painters tape and it fell off and I just lined everything up and pushed down in the middle and watched the self adhesive. It went on VERY easy. I did this in a kitchen, (not in the bathroom with hot shower on for the steam) and I didn't get a single piece of lint on either of the installs.
Mine were cut essentially perfect. Cut outs were right on and everything went together pretty much perfectly. As a note, there were a few tiny bubbles in certain areas. I thought at first it was dust but pushed lightly down and it would disappear. Over the next 24 hours they vanished and the protector is now smooth as glass.
I do notice that it does seem to get smudges and some fingerprints, but with a quick swipe of a microfiber cloth (included) or an Oakley glass bag (which I always have on me) they disappear.
This really is a great buy over the glass that costs 2-3 times a much. I recommend this product if you are looking for a screen protector and want more but don't want to pay $30 for it. This is pretty dang good, as good as the ZAGG that is on my buddies phone. We compared them and you cant tell the difference at all.
Bought them here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKRHCCY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
mortymouse said:
So after reading a bit on lots of different threads here and many other boards, I decided to pick up a couple of the LUVVITT Tempered Glass screen protectors.
I ordered from Amazon and got them for $10 each and free shipping (Prime)
I gotta say, it was the easiest install I have ever done. I started off with the hinge method but I used painters tape and it fell off and I just lined everything up and pushed down in the middle and watched the self adhesive. It went on VERY easy. I did this in a kitchen, (not in the bathroom with hot shower on for the steam) and I didn't get a single piece of lint on either of the installs.
Mine were cut essentially perfect. Cut outs were right on and everything went together pretty much perfectly. As a note, there were a few tiny bubbles in certain areas. I thought at first it was dust but pushed lightly down and it would disappear. Over the next 24 hours they vanished and the protector is now smooth as glass.
I do notice that it does seem to get smudges and some fingerprints, but with a quick swipe of a microfiber cloth (included) or an Oakley glass bag (which I always have on me) they disappear.
This really is a great buy over the glass that costs 2-3 times a much. I recommend this product if you are looking for a screen protector and want more but don't want to pay $30 for it. This is pretty dang good, as good as the ZAGG that is on my buddies phone. We compared them and you cant tell the difference at all.
Bought them here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKRHCCY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Appreciate the input, I was thinking about picking this up. I know mime ghost are top of the line but also don't want to spend a fortune on a screen protector. Will pick this up
Isn't 9H hardness a little bit too high ? i mean yeah it's gonna be very scratch resistant but it will break very easily too...
How easy/obstructive is the home button cutout? I am curious if you can use the fingerprint sensor without any issue.
mortymouse said:
So after reading a bit on lots of different threads here and many other boards, I decided to pick up a couple of the LUVVITT Tempered Glass screen protectors.
I ordered from Amazon and got them for $10 each and free shipping (Prime)
I gotta say, it was the easiest install I have ever done. I started off with the hinge method but I used painters tape and it fell off and I just lined everything up and pushed down in the middle and watched the self adhesive. It went on VERY easy. I did this in a kitchen, (not in the bathroom with hot shower on for the steam) and I didn't get a single piece of lint on either of the installs.
Mine were cut essentially perfect. Cut outs were right on and everything went together pretty much perfectly. As a note, there were a few tiny bubbles in certain areas. I thought at first it was dust but pushed lightly down and it would disappear. Over the next 24 hours they vanished and the protector is now smooth as glass.
I do notice that it does seem to get smudges and some fingerprints, but with a quick swipe of a microfiber cloth (included) or an Oakley glass bag (which I always have on me) they disappear.
This really is a great buy over the glass that costs 2-3 times a much. I recommend this product if you are looking for a screen protector and want more but don't want to pay $30 for it. This is pretty dang good, as good as the ZAGG that is on my buddies phone. We compared them and you cant tell the difference at all.
Bought them here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKRHCCY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Thanks for your input. I just ordered mine, and it should be here within the next couple hours. I will be installing and I will do give my opinion on it also. I recently had the ZAGG glass on my HTC ONE M8, and it was absolute amazing. Only gripe with the ZAGG was the cost....which was around 43$, but luckily I was able to get my money back.
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Isn't 9H hardness a little bit too high ? i mean yeah it's gonna be very scratch resistant but it will break very easily too...
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Not sure why you would want it to be less hard? Understand, the glass is so thin, it almost looks like plastic.
njan_ivide said:
How easy/obstructive is the home button cutout? I am curious if you can use the fingerprint sensor without any issue.
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I use my fingerprint scanner everyday, it doesn't interfere at all. The scanner itself isn't the best, but it works the same with our without the protector.
nickhowell25 said:
Thanks for your input. I just ordered mine, and it should be here within the next couple hours. I will be installing and I will do give my opinion on it also. I recently had the ZAGG glass on my HTC ONE M8, and it was absolute amazing. Only gripe with the ZAGG was the cost....which was around 43$, but luckily I was able to get my money back.
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You will like it. Now that I have used it for a a while I forget its even there. Putting a care on it didn't hurt it either, the rounded corners do the trick.
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Not sure why you would want it to be less hard? Understand, the glass is so thin, it almost looks like plastic.
I use my fingerprint scanner everyday, it doesn't interfere at all. The scanner itself isn't the best, but it works the same with our without the protector.
You will like it. Now that I have used it for a a while I forget its even there. Putting a care on it didn't hurt it either, the rounded corners do the trick.
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Mortymouse,
I love it man! I just installed. I recommend to all. I had the ZAGG, and they are virtually the same except the price. ZAGG 39.99 and LUVVIT 12.99... I will let you all take your pick. Thanks for the recommendation
nickhowell25 said:
Mortymouse,
I love it man! I just installed. I recommend to all. I had the ZAGG, and they are virtually the same except the price. ZAGG 39.99 and LUVVIT 12.99... I will let you all take your pick. Thanks for the recommendation
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You got it!
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Not sure why you would want it to be less hard? Understand, the glass is so thin, it almost looks like plastic.
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The harder it is the easier it breaks, from tension or from shock.
But, hardness gives resistance to scratches, because any material would need to have the same or a higher hardness to be able to scratch it.
So it depends on what you want, gorilla glass has a hardness of 7, it means that the only the things with a higher number will be able to scratch it.
When you take a look at gorilla glass, it breaks very easily, the perfect hardness for a glass protector should be a little higher than 7.
That way in case of shock the glass protector, having a little higher hardness, will dampen the shock by breaking before the glass.
dw4 said:
The harder it is the easier it breaks, from tension or from shock.
But, hardness gives resistance to scratches, because any material would need to have the same or a higher hardness to be able to scratch it.
So it depends on what you want, gorilla glass has a hardness of 7, it means that the only the things with a higher number will be able to scratch it.
When you take a look at gorilla glass, it breaks very easily, the perfect hardness for a glass protector should be a little higher than 7.
That way in case of shock the glass protector, having a little higher hardness, will dampen the shock by breaking before the glass.
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Interesting, I have not ever thought that much about it. This type of glass bends, its almost scratch proof and its shatter proof. If you drop your phone with it on, it will shatter and leave your digitizer unharmed. The hardness rating has more to do with the scratching, etc. You wont find a glass protector with under 9H and its way better than having a normal screen protector as it prevents your screen from shattering.
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Interesting, I have not ever thought that much about it. This type of glass bends, its almost scratch proof and its shatter proof. If you drop your phone with it on, it will shatter and leave your digitizer unharmed. The hardness rating has more to do with the scratching, etc. You wont find a glass protector with under 9H and its way better than having a normal screen protector as it prevents your screen from shattering.
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The only glass protecter i ever had was a 5 hardness and it could barely bend, it was just like glass they shiped it in a armored box lol ( just kiddin ) so it wouldn't break during shipping.
Well if we all agreed, then life wouldn't be very interesting.
Thanks for this. I bought an Iloome for 25$ for my S4 and I thought that was a tad high... Especially since I broke it a month in. But it was my fault. 10$ is way more palatable.
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Thanks for this. I bought an Iloome for 25$ for my S4 and I thought that was a tad high... Especially since I broke it a month in. But it was my fault. 10$ is way more palatable.
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Happy to pass good deals on especially whenever the product works!
At some point when I wasn't watching, my note 4 seems to have found something sharp to fight with and there is a fairly nasty (can feel with fingertip) inch long scratch on the glass towards the bottom of the display.
Yes, I should have bought a cover, but having had 2 HTCs over the past 5 years without getting a single scratch I obviously thought I had some kind of anti-scratch super powers. (I am anti-scratch man, see me in an upcoming movie...). So anyway, obviously I was wrong.
I have been doing a bit of research and see suggestions that were I to get a tempered glass protector, then the silicone sticky would likely fill in the scratch and make it magically vanish when the cover was applied.
Is this true? If so, what cover would you recommend?
If false - any other solutions?
It is under warranty but I'm pretty sure Samsung don't cover "cosmetic damage" like scratches.
And apologies, this really isn't intended as "yet another cover thread" I know there are loads, but rather a "what cover will fix my ****" thread
i'm not sure of any solutions for you but i want to show you my experience with a small scratch (i could feel it with my finger tips and my finger nail would be able to feel the depth of it). I never heard of it filling in a scratch but thats not to say that its false but in my case i got the glass to cover it so i wouldn't feel it when using the spen (at times the spen would get stopped on the scratch)
https://goo.gl/photos/RitAZ9r5EA4hn47H8
This was my old note 3 and this is with the screen protector on. in my case it did not make the scratch vanish or get filled in but it did help with not being able to feel it was there.
It's not that true. It'll help a little, but it's mostly just marketing. Only real fix is to have the screen replaced.
Get a tempered glass so you don't feel the scratch and it'll also help disguise it from some angles, and after a few weeks you'll stop caring or paying attention to the scratch.
Well my display panel suddenly broken from inside showing no wear/shatters in the glass itself. But that's another story. Buying a tempered glass cover will hide those little scratches (those non-deep scratches that are only visible at a certain angle) and your screen will look like brand new. Unfortunately if you have a deep scratch it may hide it a lot but you will see a multicolor line (distorted pixels) and, in the worst case, an air bubble.
Clean and polish screen, fill in scratch with vaseline, polish again, apply tempered glass on top.
berniebennybernard said:
Clean and polish screen, fill in scratch with vaseline, polish again, apply tempered glass on top.
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Vasoline? Have you done this it sounds too good to be true. Does it matter which tempered glass?
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Droidatar said:
Vasoline? Have you done this it sounds too good to be true. Does it matter which tempered glass?
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First do not use vaseline it is a petroleum product and petroleum products dissolve other petroleum products.
what I mean by this is that the vaseline could potentially eat at the screen protector, " yes even the tempered glass ones " as they are coated with various films that are most likely made from petroleum based plastics.
However the person who suggested did touch on a good idea.
Instead of vaseline I would recommend " Silicone Grease " first because it's not petroleum based but second because it is thicker and will not melt/liquify when your phone gets warm in your pocket or during use.
You can find silicone grease in the plumbing dept. at any Lowes, Home Depot, Menards, Etc. it is usually used inside of faucets to coat the rubber seals within and is made to not deteriorate under extreme temperatures.
Keep some around as it's good for other things aswell.
Otherwise do as instructed above and polish, then apply enough silicone grease to fill in the scratch before finally applying your tempered glass if there are air bubbles after the first try apply more grease and re-apply your tempered glass if you still have air bubbles you could try using a vibrating sander " with the sandpaper removed " of-course. But I doubt that would be necessary.
If all goes well I doubt youll barely notice the scratch unless it is a rough one " meaning not a clean scratch "
Hope this helps
I have skimmed through the pages in the other tempered glass screen protector threads. I have yet to find a manufacturer who makes an edge to edge protector that adheres to the entire screen rather than just the top and bottom.
My issue is that with a water proof device, anytime it is exposed to water (every day for me as I place it on the shelf in the shower to listen to music), water becomes trapped underneath the tempered glass.
Anyone picked up a model that would remedy this?
no one currently makes one
Why did you feel the need to open a whole new thread for something that has been discussed at length in many other threads? no, there is no solution yet.
Doesn't the official Samsung one do this ?
The official Samsung one is plastic, not glass.
The official Samsung one is not tempered glass.
I strongly advice against getting curved tempered glass. Or any screen protector with curve protection.
I got my replacement Note 7 and I decided to just use a flat film protector and leave the sides exposed. So much easier to use this way.
which flat one did you get!
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BozQ said:
The official Samsung one is not tempered glass.
I strongly advice against getting curved tempered glass. Or any screen protector with curve protection.
I got my replacement Note 7 and I decided to just use a flat film protector and leave the sides exposed. So much easier to use this way.
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I went nude screen on the explosive n7 because i knew i was going to exchange it and i only managed to get one scratch and it was on the edge. I think i know how it happened.
Be careful
BozQ said:
The official Samsung one is not tempered glass.
I strongly advice against getting curved tempered glass. Or any screen protector with curve protection.
I got my replacement Note 7 and I decided to just use a flat film protector and leave the sides exposed. So much easier to use this way.
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It feels like **** though. I had an IQ Liquid Shield on my old Note 7, and it felt nice in the hand. Barely a bump in feeling, some around the edges but not really noticeable. This current new Note 7 has factory screen protectors, both front and back. But they feel sharp and edgy, they don't cover the curves. I have actual sleeping nightmares about applying a brand new IQ Liquid Shield protector I already have, and it peeling horribly at corners. fEa.r me..?
Yeah. So I got my replacement n7 today. Picked up a Qmadix "first defense" screen protector. Guess what? It's edge to edge and the adhesive goes all the way around the screen. Just got out of the shower (phone got soaked), no water under the glass.
There is no reason to be rude.. Obviously, the other threads "discussed at length" on the subject failed to stumble upon this gem.
Thanks everyone. I'm only 5 hours in but I have no complaints. No halo, sits flush. Thicker than the Verizon branded one I had previously. Has kind of a unique cut out for the Samsung logo. I also purchased a camera, hearbeat sensor, and home button glass.. I'm set lol.
Edit: forgot to mention the Qmadix also comes in all three colors. I purchased black respectively.
filthimoney said:
Yeah. So I got my replacement n7 today. Picked up a Qmadix "first defense" screen protector. Guess what? It's edge to edge and the adhesive goes all the way around the screen. Just got out of the shower (phone got soaked), no water under the glass.
There is no reason to be rude.. Obviously, the other threads "discussed at length" on the subject failed to stumble upon this gem.
Thanks everyone. I'm only 5 hours in but I have no complaints. No halo, sits flush. Thicker than the Verizon branded one I had previously. Has kind of a unique cut out for the Samsung logo. I also purchased a camera, hearbeat sensor, and home button glass.. I'm set lol.
Edit: forgot to mention the Qmadix also comes in all three colors. I purchased black respectively.
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Other threads didn't find this so called gem of yours, then mention it there, that's the whole point of the original tempered glass thread. To discuss solutions. Not make a new thread for the EXACT same thing. It's just annoying to have multiple threads for literally the exact same topic. Surely you get that.
Anyway. Do u have any photos or share so we can see how it looks?
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Not sure if anyone has seen this yet, I don't know if it is full adhesive or not...... http://zerolemon.com/product/case-f...-for-samsung-galaxy-note-7-lifetime-warranty/
probably not full adhered.
Snowleopard1900 said:
Not sure if anyone has seen this yet, I don't know if it is full adhesive or not...... http://zerolemon.com/product/case-f...-for-samsung-galaxy-note-7-lifetime-warranty/
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i tried dozens of them looks just like that, most of them only have adhesive on the sides or the top+bottom. all returned.
i suspect this one will be the same, but its not available to purchase on Amazon yet. Guest i will try this too.
i will report see how it goes. but i have no hope at all.
case friendly and curved too on the design like that..?? dont know thats legit or not.
This will work 100%, even my case won't peel the screen cover.
http://imgur.com/a/sq0n5
https://amzn.com/B01HN2T6YI
you must get this specific version for the full cover. there's a lot of different variations. also let the film completely dry before you even attempt to wrap down the sides. you can use your palms, squeegee, and blow dryer. Remember the water spray is only for help with placement. When this film dries, its very stick and adhesive.
i just hate TPU material, its spongy, soft, leaves imprints and a weird texture. but it does full cover. tempered glass and PET film will never do that.
chillsen said:
This will work 100%, even my case won't peel the screen cover.
http://imgur.com/a/sq0n5
https://amzn.com/B01HN2T6YI
you must get this specific version for the full cover. there's a lot of different variations. also let the film completely dry before you even attempt to wrap down the sides. you can use your palms, squeegee, and blow dryer. Remember the water spray is only for help with placement. When this film dries, its very stick and adhesive.
i just hate TPU material, its spongy, soft, leaves imprints and a weird texture. but it does full cover. tempered glass and PET film will never do that.
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Your case doesn't even go around all the edges.
borijess said:
Your case doesn't even go around all the edges.
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the sides of the case overlap the screen protector with zero lifting. it would obviously work the same way for any case, even those that cover the top and bottom
chillsen said:
the sides of the case overlap the screen protector with zero lifting. it would obviously work the same way for any case, even those that cover the top and bottom
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I have the same protector updated version on my note 7. Did the shrink wrap trick too when i applied it. Came out nice after 12hrs. Once I put my UAG case it started to lift edges. I had to use a credit card to slide case phone in without lifting edges. So I thought I was all good right. Nope a day later it started to lift on the top side and bottom side. I have to smooth it back to down continuously. So either you got lucky or you case does not life the edges.
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I have the same protector updated version on my note 7. Did the shrink wrap trick too when i applied it. Came out nice too. Once I put my UAG case it started to lift edges. I had to use a credit card to slide case phone in without lifting edges. So I thought I was all good right. Nope a day later it started to lift on the top side and bottom side. I have to smooth it back to down continuously. So either you got lucky or you case does not life the edges.
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maybe it was the way you put it on? as in one side you will comfortable be able to tuck it under but the other side kinda snapped on and slid/lifted the cover in order for the case to snap on?
mahdibassam said:
Other threads didn't find this so called gem of yours, then mention it there, that's the whole point of the original tempered glass thread. To discuss solutions. Not make a new thread for the EXACT same thing. It's just annoying to have multiple threads for literally the exact same topic. Surely you get that.
Anyway. Do u have any photos or share so we can see how it looks?
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Not sure if you found it yet, but here is the screen protector he was mentioning. Got good reviews (from a handful of people so far) but is pretty pricey at $35 U.S.
ohblindone said:
Not sure if you found it yet, but here is the screen protector he was mentioning. Got good reviews (from a handful of people so far) but is pretty pricey at $35 U.S.
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Just installed this. I think i know why most companies only use glue on the top or bottom. The quality of the product is good. The packaging is great but i would rather get something a little more simple and maybe save on the cost.
I have yet to turn on my replacement N7 so i cant speak on clarity but the fit is decent. It even works with my Seidio Dilex case on even though its "full screen"
Here is my one problem so far (its only been an hour since install) there is a slight clicking sound when you press on some areas. The edges etc. This is the reason why i think most companies dont use glue on the sides. I think this is where the clicking sound is coming from. I think i installed it as best as i could but who knows. Maybe its my fault.
Im going to try to use it for a while to see how well it works and if i can stand the clicking sound. This is my 1st glass screen protector for the N7 and i dont think ill try more in the future. I just wanted to try one out.
I love my V30, but I've been agonizing over the best way to protect the screen. Flat glass protectors leave the edges exposed and tend to separate from the corners, while all the curved ones only had adhesive around the edges, so adhesion was weak while touch sensitivity suffered. I'd seen the Whitestone Dome glass, but it wasn't full-coverage. I ended up ordering the InvisShield True fit kit from SGFreshIdea for quite a bit more than the advertised price of $23.37. The cost of the UV light and shipping brought the total $44.09, which was a bit steep and the shipping took almost two weeks. It ended up being a decent kit, but there were a couple things I didn't like. First, the LOCA (Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive) came in two clear vials. Considering the fact that this stuff sets when exposed to UV light (such as daylight), this seemed like a really bad idea. Second, the glass had a large cut-out at the top for the earpiece and front camera. I preferred something with more coverage. Long story short, I realized that this was something I could do using cheaper and, in some cases, better components.
First, I ordered a full-coverage glass from a company called dooqi (seriously) off Ebay. It was $8.79 with free shipping and arrived in less than a week. Be sure to order the clear glass, since the black edged one won't allow the LOCA glue to cure. Then I ordered the XFactor Sticky-Icky1000 LOCA glue for $11.99 with free shipping and arrived in two days (gotta love Amazon Prime). There's a LOT of LOCA glue on Amazon, but you need to order the lowest viscosity possible, since the "normal" glue is too thick to work with easily. The InvisShield glue was VERY thin, almost like water, while the XFactor is more like vegetable oil. The thinner glue spread more easily, but I actually preferred the XFactor since small bubbles seemed to push out with less effort. The main difference is that the InvisShield glue requires no pressure during installation (they tell you NOT to press on the glass), while the XFactor has to be pushed to the edges and corners with a squeegee.
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For the UV lamp, I ended up using the one that I purchased with the InvisShield kit. I also tested a UV flashlight I had in the garage for detecting coolant leaks, and it worked great. You can order small UV flashlights on Ebay for around $5 (free shipping) that should work well too, or you can simply let the glue cure by setting it in sunlight. The thing you need to keep in mind is that when the glue sets, it's still sticky. It isn't like epoxy. It cures to a clear, sticky adhesive that's perfect for phone screens. In fact, the LOCA glue is supposed to help fill in and hide cracks in the screen too when sandwiched between the phone and a glass screen protector. I haven't tested it, but it's something to consider if you have a cracked screen.
I strongly recommend watching the InvisShield installation video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCaOeqCH-2o ). It covers the basics well, but there's one thing that they don't mention that is critical. TAPE OVER ALL OF THE OPENINGS ON THE PHONE! When I first installed the InvisShield, a small amount of the glue ran into the hole for the earpiece. I cleaned it with isopropyl alcohol, and thought everything was fine. After the installation, I powered up the phone and discovered that I could barely hear anything, even at the max volume. I just about puked. After a LOT of stress, I managed to clear the excess glue out of the speaker screen with rubbing alcohol, a tiny brush for cleaning electric razors and some compressed air. I can't emphasize this enough... you NEED to be VERY careful about preventing the glue from getting into any of the openings on the phone. If you screw up your device, PLEASE don't complain to me since I feel I've made it abundantly clear that you need to be careful with this stuff. It runs everywhere, and can make a mess even with proper precautions. I used the glass protector as a template to cut a piece of clear packing tape, so I could be sure that the hole was covered without extending under the close-fitting glass.
The dooqi glass has a thin adhesive strip around the outer edge that can be easily pulled off. Just be sure to remove any adhesive residue with something like Goof-Off Professional-Grade. By the way, this stuff also works great for cleaning up cured LOCA. Next, clean the screen and glass with the alcohol wipes included with the dooqi glass. Unlike the InvisShield method of putting a large pool of glue on the bottom and using gravity and capillary action to spread the glue, I applied a heavy strip of glue down the center of the phone. It's better to use more glue than not enough, since removing the glass to add more glue isn't an option.
When doing so, look VERY carefully for even tiny bubbles. If you see one, use something clean (like the corner of the small plastic card in the dooqi kit) to dab out the bubble. Then just line up the glass and lower it gently onto the phone. Don't worry if it's crooked... you'll have plenty of time to straighten it. Let it sit for a couple minutes while the glue spreads. Then take a squeegee ( I used and old gift card) to push the glue to the edges and corners. Work slowly and carefully, wiping the excess glue away with an alcohol soaked cloth. I used to install vehicle wraps, so I learned a long time ago that rushing the job leads to disaster. If you notice air bubble sucking in at the corners, make sure that the glass is perfectly centered on the phone. I noticed that a few bubble kept sucking in from the top, right corner. So, I pushed them back out, and applied a dab of glue on the edge where the glass meets the phone. This way, glue was pulled into the tiny gap instead of air. Also, don't freak out if glue is running off the sides of your phone. Just make sure that you're working on a clean drop-cloth, and have plenty of alcohol soaked cloth wipes for cleaning the excess glue as you work.
Once it's evenly applied, carefully clean up any excess glue and wait a minute or two to be sure that no bubbles suck in from the edge. If glue is covering the front camera hole, don't worry. It will clean off easily once the glue is cured. Then use you lamp, flashlight or sunlight to cure the LOCA glue. I found that about 10 minutes of moving the UV flashlight back and forth around the screen seemed to be sufficient. The InvisShield video warns about over-curing, but I know that my phone will be used frequently in daylight I don't think this is an issue. In fact, I'd feel safer curing it more than not enough, since the last thing you want is for the glass to shift.
Finally, remove the tape and wipe the whole thing down with an isopropyl alcohol moistened cloth. You might have to scrub a bit to get some of the cured LOCA off the edges, but it should clean up pretty easily. And that's it! Mine ended up looking perfect. I'll probably clean around the edges in a couple day to remove any dirt that sticks to the excess glue. Also, check for any gaps that form near the corners. If they appear, use a small dab of glue to fill them and hit it with more UV light. Let me know if you have any questions and I hope that is helpful!
dooqi glass: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dooqi-Full...var=541441961034&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
XFactor glue: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GY4LL3G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
UV flashlight: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-LED-U...035402?hash=item5d7a6eb9ca:g:ZHoAAOSwKXdaconH
Thanks. Very nice write up. At 25.77 total, a much better option than the InvisShield True fit kit. I was going to try the Verizon screen protector, but it cost more than this and has terrible reviews. How long did the whole procedure take?
bilbo60 said:
Thanks. Very nice write up. At 25.77 total, a much better option than the InvisShield True fit kit. I was going to try the Verizon screen protector, but it cost more than this and has terrible reviews. How long did the whole procedure take?
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I was stopping to take pictures so that added to the time, but I'd estimate that it took me about 30 minutes from start to finish. I'm also really picky and used a magnifier to check for even the tiniest bubbles.
Whitestone Dome Glass has international patent for LOCA(Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive) technology. Different from others, why bother with halo, rainbow and bubbles? Whitestone Dome Glass makes it different. Thanks to LOCA liquid adhesive method and curing process, adhesive is on all areas even on the edges of the screen. Hope you try our Dome Glass next time! For your reference please check to see images on our Twitter or Facebook of LG V30 Whitestone Dome Glass
When Whitestone comes out with glass that's actually curved (in spite of what your Amazon ad incorrectly claims), I'll consider it. Until then, I'll stick with the method I've posted here which costs half as much and exhibits none of the issues you mention. Thanks...
Btw - I did some research and found nothing to suggest that Whitestone has any patents on LOCA glue.
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When Whitestone comes out with glass that's actually curved (in spite of what your Amazon ad incorrectly claims), I'll consider it. Until then, I'll stick with the method I've posted here which costs half as much and exhibits none of the issues you mention. Thanks...
Btw - I did some research and found nothing to suggest that Whitestone has any patents on LOCA glue.
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Do you see any halo, rainbow and bubbles? I think Whitestone's LOCA patent claim is full of it. If so, there would not be InvisibleShield, which is similarly LOCA glued.
I was very careful to check for any bubbles, and I can assure you that there aren't any. As for the other stuff, I have no idea what Whitestone is talking about. It looks just like the unprotected screen, with absolutely no visual defects. It covers the sides of the screen to within 1/32", and is a little over 1/16" short of full coverage on the top and bottom. Also, touch sensitivity is unaffected.
The only thing that worries me - is what will happen when you try to remove it.
Dooqi doesn't ship to Canada... just like InvisShield.
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The only thing that worries me - is what will happen when you try to remove it.
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It removes cleanly. Just slide a thin piece of plastic (like a credit card) under the edge and pop it off. A little bit of alcohol under the edge loosens it nicely. I didn't have any residue, but isopropyl alcohol would remove any if you did. The LOCA glue doesn't harden when it cure. It becomes a tacky adhesive.
I did this. Thanks for the tutorial and links! The only difference is i used the liquid adhesive and UV light that came with my whitestone done glass kit. This is a much cheaper solution for me than buying a replacement glass screen protector.
Thanks again!
p.s. make sure you peel off and get all the adhesive off of the dooqi screen protector and get the air bubbles out or you'll get some air bubbles.
ED2O9, thanks for the write up. I'm now in the process of accumulating the materials to do the full adhesive glass protector.
Just a caveat for anyone doing this. I spent 2 hours going through all of the V30 TG screen protectors on Amazon. All of the clear TG screen protectors without the black borders sold on Amazon ARE NOT FULL COVERAGE protectors, but instead are cut narrower in order to avoid fitting issues over the V30's curved edges. Props to ED209 for doing his homework and pointing the way to the appropriate screen protector that works for the full adhesive application which is the Dooqi TG protector sold on eBay.
However, one caveat: Dooqi offers 2 types of TG screen protectors on eBay. Read the item descriptions before buying. Links are embedded.
1. Dooqi Full Coverage 3D Curved Tempered Glass Screen Protector Saver for LG V30 - This is the one to buy. As mentioned by ED209, the cost is $8.79 for one screen protector. This one has curved edges and provides bezel to bezel screen coverage.
2. 3X Dooqi Premium Ultra Clear Tempered Glass Screen Protector Saver for LG V30 - Avoid this one. This one is cut narrow and covers only the flat surface of the screen, leaving the the curved edges uncovered and exposed. For the cheap price of $7.79 for a 3 pack, it's very easy to be tempted into clicking the Buy It Now button. Don't do it.
Interesting! I just put a whitestone dome on my son's V30+ - quite successfully I might add. He's using a Tech21 Evo Check case, so I knew the whitestone was compatible (see YouTube install video by the "naked" guy). Plus I didn't want to wait 2 weeks for the HongKong based alternative to get here. My son carries his phone in his pocket, and the edge adhesive option wouldn't stay in place for him.
Anyways, I have the extra tube of adhesive from the whitestone, so I might order a piece of glass and try it on mine!
Hey, thanks for the guide.
One thing I also did to help with the process - I used a hair dryer after I put the screen protector on the phone (before the LOCA was fully spread out on the phone).
This helped lower the viscosity and make it easier for the LOCA to move around. I used the hair dryer directly above the middle of the phone. (With the phone off of course).
Edit: Also, you can use the screen protectors with the black borders. Acetone (nail polish remover) does a great job at removing it. The adhesive comes off in one piece just by picking it off with your nails. If there's any residue left, acetone will get that too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075Y3BBJC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is the one with black borders that I used, and it worked great!
Excellent post, thought it would be boring duh ?like. NOT! Very informative. I saw on the page for Dooqi Glass a feature is Anti-UV protection!? I assume this adds more cure time..? I thought 10mins was excessive, but using w cheap light could explain.
I actually bought a kickass (seriously bright) LED uv/black light strip on Amazon for about 20$. Has a USB power source, decent length cable, LOW&HIGHT, and assume a extension port.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075K6NM8F?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
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Excellent post, thought it would be boring duh like. NOT! Very informative. I saw on the page for Dooqi Glass a feature is Anti-UV protection!? I assume this adds more cure time..? I thought 10mins was excessive, but using w cheap light could explain.
I actually bought a kickass (seriously bright) LED uv/black light strip on Amazon for about 20$. Has a USB power source, decent length cable, LOW&HIGHT, and assume a extension port.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075K6NM8F?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
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I used this one and it cured in about a minute. Did it extra to make sure it would stay though https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MJI8OCW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Is it possible to apply your solution to this TGSP
Hi,
Thank you for this detailed procedure.
I'have already ordered a TGSP that cover the maximum of the black front face of the phone since I dont care about case-friendly aspect. But because it have the black edges, do you have a solution to apply the LOCA with this one?
The issue with the edged one is it because the extra glue will not be able to flow outward? Or just because the UV will not work on the edges? If it's because of the UV, is the original glue on the edges PLUS the LOCA glue on the screen should not be an alternative?
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07B2NRTXH/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I love my V30, but I've been agonizing over the best way to protect the screen. Flat glass protectors leave the edges exposed and tend to separate from the corners, while all the curved ones only had adhesive around the edges, so adhesion was weak while touch sensitivity suffered. I'd seen the Whitestone Dome glass, but it wasn't full-coverage. I ended up ordering the InvisShield True fit kit from SGFreshIdea for quite a bit more than the advertised price of $23.37. The cost of the UV light and shipping brought the total $44.09, which was a bit steep and the shipping took almost two weeks. It ended up being a decent kit, but there were a couple things I didn't like. First, the LOCA (Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive) came in two clear vials. Considering the fact that this stuff sets when exposed to UV light (such as daylight), this seemed like a really bad idea. Second, the glass had a large cut-out at the top for the earpiece and front camera. I preferred something with more coverage. Long story short, I realized that this was something I could do using cheaper and, in some cases, better components.
First, I ordered a full-coverage glass from a company called dooqi (seriously) off Ebay. It was $8.79 with free shipping and arrived in less than a week. Be sure to order the clear glass, since the black edged one won't allow the LOCA glue to cure. Then I ordered the XFactor Sticky-Icky1000 LOCA glue for $11.99 with free shipping and arrived in two days (gotta love Amazon Prime). There's a LOT of LOCA glue on Amazon, but you need to order the lowest viscosity possible, since the "normal" glue is too thick to work with easily. The InvisShield glue was VERY thin, almost like water, while the XFactor is more like vegetable oil. The thinner glue spread more easily, but I actually preferred the XFactor since small bubbles seemed to push out with less effort. The main difference is that the InvisShield glue requires no pressure during installation (they tell you NOT to press on the glass), while the XFactor has to be pushed to the edges and corners with a squeegee.
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For the UV lamp, I ended up using the one that I purchased with the InvisShield kit. I also tested a UV flashlight I had in the garage for detecting coolant leaks, and it worked great. You can order small UV flashlights on Ebay for around $5 (free shipping) that should work well too, or you can simply let the glue cure by setting it in sunlight. The thing you need to keep in mind is that when the glue sets, it's still sticky. It isn't like epoxy. It cures to a clear, sticky adhesive that's perfect for phone screens. In fact, the LOCA glue is supposed to help fill in and hide cracks in the screen too when sandwiched between the phone and a glass screen protector. I haven't tested it, but it's something to consider if you have a cracked screen.
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I strongly recommend watching the InvisShield installation video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCaOeqCH-2o ). It covers the basics well, but there's one thing that they don't mention that is critical. TAPE OVER ALL OF THE OPENINGS ON THE PHONE! When I first installed the InvisShield, a small amount of the glue ran into the hole for the earpiece. I cleaned it with isopropyl alcohol, and thought everything was fine. After the installation, I powered up the phone and discovered that I could barely hear anything, even at the max volume. I just about puked. After a LOT of stress, I managed to clear the excess glue out of the speaker screen with rubbing alcohol, a tiny brush for cleaning electric razors and some compressed air. I can't emphasize this enough... you NEED to be VERY careful about preventing the glue from getting into any of the openings on the phone. If you screw up your device, PLEASE don't complain to me since I feel I've made it abundantly clear that you need to be careful with this stuff. It runs everywhere, and can make a mess even with proper precautions. I used the glass protector as a template to cut a piece of clear packing tape, so I could be sure that the hole was covered without extending under the close-fitting glass.
The dooqi glass has a thin adhesive strip around the outer edge that can be easily pulled off. Just be sure to remove any adhesive residue with something like Goof-Off Professional-Grade. By the way, this stuff also works great for cleaning up cured LOCA. Next, clean the screen and glass with the alcohol wipes included with the dooqi glass. Unlike the InvisShield method of putting a large pool of glue on the bottom and using gravity and capillary action to spread the glue, I applied a heavy strip of glue down the center of the phone. It's better to use more glue than not enough, since removing the glass to add more glue isn't an option.
When doing so, look VERY carefully for even tiny bubbles. If you see one, use something clean (like the corner of the small plastic card in the dooqi kit) to dab out the bubble. Then just line up the glass and lower it gently onto the phone. Don't worry if it's crooked... you'll have plenty of time to straighten it. Let it sit for a couple minutes while the glue spreads. Then take a squeegee ( I used and old gift card) to push the glue to the edges and corners. Work slowly and carefully, wiping the excess glue away with an alcohol soaked cloth. I used to install vehicle wraps, so I learned a long time ago that rushing the job leads to disaster. If you notice air bubble sucking in at the corners, make sure that the glass is perfectly centered on the phone. I noticed that a few bubble kept sucking in from the top, right corner. So, I pushed them back out, and applied a dab of glue on the edge where the glass meets the phone. This way, glue was pulled into the tiny gap instead of air. Also, don't freak out if glue is running off the sides of your phone. Just make sure that you're working on a clean drop-cloth, and have plenty of alcohol soaked cloth wipes for cleaning the excess glue as you work.
Once it's evenly applied, carefully clean up any excess glue and wait a minute or two to be sure that no bubbles suck in from the edge. If glue is covering the front camera hole, don't worry. It will clean off easily once the glue is cured. Then use you lamp, flashlight or sunlight to cure the LOCA glue. I found that about 10 minutes of moving the UV flashlight back and forth around the screen seemed to be sufficient. The InvisShield video warns about over-curing, but I know that my phone will be used frequently in daylight I don't think this is an issue. In fact, I'd feel safer curing it more than not enough, since the last thing you want is for the glass to shift.
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Finally, remove the tape and wipe the whole thing down with an isopropyl alcohol moistened cloth. You might have to scrub a bit to get some of the cured LOCA off the edges, but it should clean up pretty easily. And that's it! Mine ended up looking perfect. I'll probably clean around the edges in a couple day to remove any dirt that sticks to the excess glue. Also, check for any gaps that form near the corners. If they appear, use a small dab of glue to fill them and hit it with more UV light. Let me know if you have any questions and I hope that is helpful!
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dooqi glass: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dooqi-Full...var=541441961034&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
XFactor glue: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GY4LL3G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
UV flashlight: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-LED-U...035402?hash=item5d7a6eb9ca:g:ZHoAAOSwKXdaconH
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Almost every curved glass I've seen has a black border. While I haven't tested it, I would think that the black paint would block the UV lamp and prevent proper curing. I've removed the black paint from the glass by using Goof-Off Pro Grade or a similar solvent like acetone. Just be careful around plastics, since these solvents can melt them.
Sticking just with original black band glue on the edges and LOCA on the screen is not a viable solution according to you?
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Almost every curved glass I've seen has a black border. While I haven't tested it, I would think that the black paint would block the UV lamp and prevent proper curing. I've removed the black paint from the glass by using Goof-Off Pro Grade or a similar solvent like acetone. Just be careful around plastics, since these solvents can melt them.
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Sticking just with original black band glue on the edges and LOCA on the screen is not a viable solution according to you?
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No... why would you do that? The LOCA glue would prevent the adhesive strip from sticking to the screen. Just peel the strip off and use LOCA for the whole screen.
Hey, I know TG's are a pain with 2.5D glass but anyone used LOCA glue application? I did it on my Essential phone with great results. I'll probably do same with my OP6 which arrives tomorrow
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Hey, I know TG's are a pain with 2.5D glass but anyone used LOCA glue application? I did it on my Essential phone with great results. I'll probably do same with my OP6 which arrives tomorrow
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Interesting, was thinking about doing that as well. What kind of glue did you use before?
Yeah, I've been thinking about it. The Whitestone protectors are great and that's all they are.
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This is what I used, but I think it has a bit HIGH viscosity, it takes ~10-15 min to fully fill out the TGSP. I masked off the entire phone with tape to prevent any disasters You have to TRUST in your usage amount, pop bubbles with a pin or bent paperclip, and just let the material flow naturally. Also, watch for TGSP 'drift' as it will float while dispersing! TRY NOT to push around the SP, just help guide by 1mm or 2, NOT TOO FAR!!
It's NOT difficult but I was sweating the first time and messed up, just use rubbing alcohol and lint free cloth to remove the glue and do it again. Trust me, you can do it if my stupid ass can do it
https://www.ebay.com/itm/XFACTOR-UV...ORCH-51LEDs-/261566321431?hash=item3ce6915317
I just got this one because I no longer need the light and believe this will flow a lot better
https://www.ebay.com/itm/5ML-TP-250...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
with beautiful flat screen you do not need any extra glue.
just a little bit oil and you good to go if you have any air pockets on the edges.
Shame on screen protector makers not to mention about this trick !!