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If anyone gets a nice clear edge to edge of entire glass screen protector please share link.
I don't want the ones you apply with water because over time adhesive attracts dust & dirt.
EZGUARDZ go edge-to-edge, and can be applied w/o water. However, they suggest (and I followed) using water to get a clean set up.
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Are you looking for somthing like this???
Are you looking for somthing like this???
T-Mobile G2x Mirrored Screen Protector Film
http://www.cellularoutfitter.com/p-77519-t-mobile-g2x-mirrored-screen-protector-film.html
down8 said:
EZGUARDZ go edge-to-edge, and can be applied w/o water. However, they suggest (and I followed) using water to get a clean set up.
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down8: thanks ordered one exactly what I was looking for...
KRAZYADROIDMASTER: thanks but no those mirror ones drive me crazy.
I'm wondering how the dry apply will do over time. The curved glass is making me wait and definitely consider a wet apply instead.
Please post how these are when you get them.
I have a ClearFreak. Edge to Edge w/ water application, but super easy. Just google clearfreak and you will find it. They also make a clear protector for the back if you don't want a case.
Try seidoonline.com under lg optimus 2x. Can't wait untill the cases are available!
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I ordered the Seido Crystal Clear Screen protector. It looks like it is going to cover the entire screen. I have had great success with their products in the past, so I am hoping for some good results with this. It is currently being shipped, so I am hoping to have it by the end of the week.
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/spm1lg2x.htm
I ordered the ghost armor one and it works awesome. They give you two.
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So does PhantomSkinz. Gave me 2 full sets of body shields that covers all the aspects on the phone. It says to use water but I never do, came out nice and clean.
The one from skinomi is edge to edge too
ClearFreaks are available on eBay for $4: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-CLEAR-LCD-SCREEN-PROTECTOR-LG-G2X-NEW-/300552048835
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I'm wondering how the dry apply will do over time. The curved glass is making me wait and definitely consider a wet apply instead.
Please post how these are when you get them.
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I asked for a screen protector that doesn't use water. I ordered EZGUARDZ because down8 brought it up. It was $3.99 free shipping comes with 5 pcs.
I tried first piece dry, did not look good was not clear no matter how much you work it out with a little rubber squeegee. Took it off, threw 1st piece away and used 2nd piece with a water spray bottle i had from a past zagg shield install.
Once it dried next day it looked really good, no orange peel look like zagg shield back then... i'll rock it until i find a dry static cling because dry static cling has superb clarity, you can't even tell it's on the phone.
I'm sure this EZGUARDZ over time will attract lint and dust over time on it's edges. I have a rubber silicone case over it so it may help with lint/dust.
Do we really need one? Isn't it Gorilla Glass?
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Do we really need one? Isn't it Gorilla Glass?
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Gorilla Glass just means it's resistant to scratches, not invincible.
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dv8ed said:
I asked for a screen protector that doesn't use water. I ordered EZGUARDZ because down8 brought it up. It was $3.99 free shipping comes with 5 pcs.
I tried first piece dry, did not look good was not clear no matter how much you work it out with a little rubber squeegee. Took it off, threw 1st piece away and used 2nd piece with a water spray bottle i had from a past zagg shield install.
Once it dried next day it looked really good, no orange peel look like zagg shield back then... i'll rock it until i find a dry static cling because dry static cling has superb clarity, you can't even tell it's on the phone.
I'm sure this EZGUARDZ over time will attract lint and dust over time on it's edges. I have a rubber silicone case over it so it may help with lint/dust.
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Thanks for posting that. It seems like we won't be able to get a perfect screen protector LOL. Dry ones are the best, I agree, but the curved edges make it difficult. And even if the wet apply ones do apply better they will attract dust around the edges.
I guess it's all trade-offs.
i wish i hadn't bought the ones from tmobile they have a smudge resistant finish it makes it very hard to read through
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ClearFreaks are available on eBay for $4: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-CLEAR-LCD-SCREEN-PROTECTOR-LG-G2X-NEW-/300552048835
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I ordered these, received them only to realize it does NOT cover the curves sides of the screen. It is not Edge to Edge screen protection. Just an FYI. I was looking for Edge to Edge.
So after reading a bit on lots of different threads here and many other boards, I decided to pick up a couple of the LUVVITT Tempered Glass screen protectors.
I ordered from Amazon and got them for $10 each and free shipping (Prime)
I gotta say, it was the easiest install I have ever done. I started off with the hinge method but I used painters tape and it fell off and I just lined everything up and pushed down in the middle and watched the self adhesive. It went on VERY easy. I did this in a kitchen, (not in the bathroom with hot shower on for the steam) and I didn't get a single piece of lint on either of the installs.
Mine were cut essentially perfect. Cut outs were right on and everything went together pretty much perfectly. As a note, there were a few tiny bubbles in certain areas. I thought at first it was dust but pushed lightly down and it would disappear. Over the next 24 hours they vanished and the protector is now smooth as glass.
I do notice that it does seem to get smudges and some fingerprints, but with a quick swipe of a microfiber cloth (included) or an Oakley glass bag (which I always have on me) they disappear.
This really is a great buy over the glass that costs 2-3 times a much. I recommend this product if you are looking for a screen protector and want more but don't want to pay $30 for it. This is pretty dang good, as good as the ZAGG that is on my buddies phone. We compared them and you cant tell the difference at all.
Bought them here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKRHCCY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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So after reading a bit on lots of different threads here and many other boards, I decided to pick up a couple of the LUVVITT Tempered Glass screen protectors.
I ordered from Amazon and got them for $10 each and free shipping (Prime)
I gotta say, it was the easiest install I have ever done. I started off with the hinge method but I used painters tape and it fell off and I just lined everything up and pushed down in the middle and watched the self adhesive. It went on VERY easy. I did this in a kitchen, (not in the bathroom with hot shower on for the steam) and I didn't get a single piece of lint on either of the installs.
Mine were cut essentially perfect. Cut outs were right on and everything went together pretty much perfectly. As a note, there were a few tiny bubbles in certain areas. I thought at first it was dust but pushed lightly down and it would disappear. Over the next 24 hours they vanished and the protector is now smooth as glass.
I do notice that it does seem to get smudges and some fingerprints, but with a quick swipe of a microfiber cloth (included) or an Oakley glass bag (which I always have on me) they disappear.
This really is a great buy over the glass that costs 2-3 times a much. I recommend this product if you are looking for a screen protector and want more but don't want to pay $30 for it. This is pretty dang good, as good as the ZAGG that is on my buddies phone. We compared them and you cant tell the difference at all.
Bought them here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKRHCCY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Appreciate the input, I was thinking about picking this up. I know mime ghost are top of the line but also don't want to spend a fortune on a screen protector. Will pick this up
Isn't 9H hardness a little bit too high ? i mean yeah it's gonna be very scratch resistant but it will break very easily too...
How easy/obstructive is the home button cutout? I am curious if you can use the fingerprint sensor without any issue.
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So after reading a bit on lots of different threads here and many other boards, I decided to pick up a couple of the LUVVITT Tempered Glass screen protectors.
I ordered from Amazon and got them for $10 each and free shipping (Prime)
I gotta say, it was the easiest install I have ever done. I started off with the hinge method but I used painters tape and it fell off and I just lined everything up and pushed down in the middle and watched the self adhesive. It went on VERY easy. I did this in a kitchen, (not in the bathroom with hot shower on for the steam) and I didn't get a single piece of lint on either of the installs.
Mine were cut essentially perfect. Cut outs were right on and everything went together pretty much perfectly. As a note, there were a few tiny bubbles in certain areas. I thought at first it was dust but pushed lightly down and it would disappear. Over the next 24 hours they vanished and the protector is now smooth as glass.
I do notice that it does seem to get smudges and some fingerprints, but with a quick swipe of a microfiber cloth (included) or an Oakley glass bag (which I always have on me) they disappear.
This really is a great buy over the glass that costs 2-3 times a much. I recommend this product if you are looking for a screen protector and want more but don't want to pay $30 for it. This is pretty dang good, as good as the ZAGG that is on my buddies phone. We compared them and you cant tell the difference at all.
Bought them here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKRHCCY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Thanks for your input. I just ordered mine, and it should be here within the next couple hours. I will be installing and I will do give my opinion on it also. I recently had the ZAGG glass on my HTC ONE M8, and it was absolute amazing. Only gripe with the ZAGG was the cost....which was around 43$, but luckily I was able to get my money back.
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Isn't 9H hardness a little bit too high ? i mean yeah it's gonna be very scratch resistant but it will break very easily too...
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Not sure why you would want it to be less hard? Understand, the glass is so thin, it almost looks like plastic.
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How easy/obstructive is the home button cutout? I am curious if you can use the fingerprint sensor without any issue.
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I use my fingerprint scanner everyday, it doesn't interfere at all. The scanner itself isn't the best, but it works the same with our without the protector.
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Thanks for your input. I just ordered mine, and it should be here within the next couple hours. I will be installing and I will do give my opinion on it also. I recently had the ZAGG glass on my HTC ONE M8, and it was absolute amazing. Only gripe with the ZAGG was the cost....which was around 43$, but luckily I was able to get my money back.
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You will like it. Now that I have used it for a a while I forget its even there. Putting a care on it didn't hurt it either, the rounded corners do the trick.
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Not sure why you would want it to be less hard? Understand, the glass is so thin, it almost looks like plastic.
I use my fingerprint scanner everyday, it doesn't interfere at all. The scanner itself isn't the best, but it works the same with our without the protector.
You will like it. Now that I have used it for a a while I forget its even there. Putting a care on it didn't hurt it either, the rounded corners do the trick.
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Mortymouse,
I love it man! I just installed. I recommend to all. I had the ZAGG, and they are virtually the same except the price. ZAGG 39.99 and LUVVIT 12.99... I will let you all take your pick. Thanks for the recommendation
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Mortymouse,
I love it man! I just installed. I recommend to all. I had the ZAGG, and they are virtually the same except the price. ZAGG 39.99 and LUVVIT 12.99... I will let you all take your pick. Thanks for the recommendation
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You got it!
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Not sure why you would want it to be less hard? Understand, the glass is so thin, it almost looks like plastic.
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The harder it is the easier it breaks, from tension or from shock.
But, hardness gives resistance to scratches, because any material would need to have the same or a higher hardness to be able to scratch it.
So it depends on what you want, gorilla glass has a hardness of 7, it means that the only the things with a higher number will be able to scratch it.
When you take a look at gorilla glass, it breaks very easily, the perfect hardness for a glass protector should be a little higher than 7.
That way in case of shock the glass protector, having a little higher hardness, will dampen the shock by breaking before the glass.
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The harder it is the easier it breaks, from tension or from shock.
But, hardness gives resistance to scratches, because any material would need to have the same or a higher hardness to be able to scratch it.
So it depends on what you want, gorilla glass has a hardness of 7, it means that the only the things with a higher number will be able to scratch it.
When you take a look at gorilla glass, it breaks very easily, the perfect hardness for a glass protector should be a little higher than 7.
That way in case of shock the glass protector, having a little higher hardness, will dampen the shock by breaking before the glass.
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Interesting, I have not ever thought that much about it. This type of glass bends, its almost scratch proof and its shatter proof. If you drop your phone with it on, it will shatter and leave your digitizer unharmed. The hardness rating has more to do with the scratching, etc. You wont find a glass protector with under 9H and its way better than having a normal screen protector as it prevents your screen from shattering.
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Interesting, I have not ever thought that much about it. This type of glass bends, its almost scratch proof and its shatter proof. If you drop your phone with it on, it will shatter and leave your digitizer unharmed. The hardness rating has more to do with the scratching, etc. You wont find a glass protector with under 9H and its way better than having a normal screen protector as it prevents your screen from shattering.
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The only glass protecter i ever had was a 5 hardness and it could barely bend, it was just like glass they shiped it in a armored box lol ( just kiddin ) so it wouldn't break during shipping.
Well if we all agreed, then life wouldn't be very interesting.
Thanks for this. I bought an Iloome for 25$ for my S4 and I thought that was a tad high... Especially since I broke it a month in. But it was my fault. 10$ is way more palatable.
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Thanks for this. I bought an Iloome for 25$ for my S4 and I thought that was a tad high... Especially since I broke it a month in. But it was my fault. 10$ is way more palatable.
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Happy to pass good deals on especially whenever the product works!
So I ordered myself a full cover tempered glass online thru ebay. I knew the glass would only have adhesive at the edges, I wasn't able find any with adhesive in the middle but I thought about maybe using loca to fill the gap between the screen and tempered glass and I gotta say I'm pretty happy with the results. So to anyone that has some experience with loca repairs I'd suggest trying it out. If you've never used loca then I would suggest not trying it as it might end up being a messy project and you could damage your screen if you have loca seepage. I'm extremely happy with this phone now, touch panel is as responsive as if it didn't have any screen protector. I had a tempered glass on before but only covered the lcd portion of the screen and the edges would lift.
Can you post pics of the adhesive as well as instructions please thanks
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will you be able to remove the glass protector if it breaks when you have used loca?
You took the idea right out of my head and I'm to see it works. Did you apply the LOCA to the whole piece of glass or only the areas without adhesive?
If you've ever worked with loca you shouldn't have a hard time with it, because it is not directly glued to the lcd removal shouldn't be too hard and shouldn't require too much heat to remove, definitely less of a risk. My whole family upgraded to the g5 so I still have three more devices I can try this out with, I can try to record myself doing it next time, I just have to place the order for the tempered glass again. Now do keep in mind I repair phones for a living pretty much, so working with loca is something I do often. Doesn't mean you wouldn't be able to do it you just need to have a pretty good idea how it works and what to do in the event it goes wrong. Give me about a week or so till I get a hold of more tempered glass and I'll definitely put a guide together. Quick list of things you'd need pretty much would the the tempered glass obviously, loca, 1mm adhesive, clamps, and uv light. It's a fun project, if you do it right you'll be extremely happy with the results. Loca in this case is only applied to the area without adhesive, because of how loca works you need to sort of trap the loca inside the area where there is no adhesive, build a seal in a sense, that's where the 1mm adhesive comes in place. I'll make a whole guide and video of next time I do it. I'm itching to try this on the gs7 edge my coworker has xD
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If you've ever worked with loca you shouldn't have a hard time with it, because it is not directly glued to the lcd removal shouldn't be too hard and shouldn't require too much heat to remove, definitely less of a risk. My whole family upgraded to the g5 so I still have three more devices I can try this out with, I can try to record myself doing it next time, I just have to place the order for the tempered glass again. Now do keep in mind I repair phones for a living pretty much, so working with loca is something I do often. Doesn't mean you wouldn't be able to do it you just need to have a pretty good idea how it works and what to do in the event it goes wrong. Give me about a week or so till I get a hold of more tempered glass and I'll definitely put a guide together. Quick list of things you'd need pretty much would the the tempered glass obviously, loca, 1mm adhesive, clamps, and uv light. It's a fun project, if you do it right you'll be extremely happy with the results. Loca in this case is only applied to the area without adhesive, because of how loca works you need to sort of trap the loca inside the area where there is no adhesive, build a seal in a sense, that's where the 1mm adhesive comes in place. I'll make a whole guide and video of next time I do it. I'm itching to try this on the gs7 edge my coworker has xD
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How do you plan on removing the protector should it crack or become scratched beyond use? And also, you managed to squirt the right amount of loca so that it didn't leave any noticeable air gaps, and it didn't seep out?
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Actually ended up getting the v20 and same scenario with this device, there was no good tempered glass available so I ended up doing the same thing I did with my g5 on this one, I'm just posting up a video of my method. Hope you guys enjoy.
https://youtu.be/pXJiU9HpOpQ
I love my V30, but I've been agonizing over the best way to protect the screen. Flat glass protectors leave the edges exposed and tend to separate from the corners, while all the curved ones only had adhesive around the edges, so adhesion was weak while touch sensitivity suffered. I'd seen the Whitestone Dome glass, but it wasn't full-coverage. I ended up ordering the InvisShield True fit kit from SGFreshIdea for quite a bit more than the advertised price of $23.37. The cost of the UV light and shipping brought the total $44.09, which was a bit steep and the shipping took almost two weeks. It ended up being a decent kit, but there were a couple things I didn't like. First, the LOCA (Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive) came in two clear vials. Considering the fact that this stuff sets when exposed to UV light (such as daylight), this seemed like a really bad idea. Second, the glass had a large cut-out at the top for the earpiece and front camera. I preferred something with more coverage. Long story short, I realized that this was something I could do using cheaper and, in some cases, better components.
First, I ordered a full-coverage glass from a company called dooqi (seriously) off Ebay. It was $8.79 with free shipping and arrived in less than a week. Be sure to order the clear glass, since the black edged one won't allow the LOCA glue to cure. Then I ordered the XFactor Sticky-Icky1000 LOCA glue for $11.99 with free shipping and arrived in two days (gotta love Amazon Prime). There's a LOT of LOCA glue on Amazon, but you need to order the lowest viscosity possible, since the "normal" glue is too thick to work with easily. The InvisShield glue was VERY thin, almost like water, while the XFactor is more like vegetable oil. The thinner glue spread more easily, but I actually preferred the XFactor since small bubbles seemed to push out with less effort. The main difference is that the InvisShield glue requires no pressure during installation (they tell you NOT to press on the glass), while the XFactor has to be pushed to the edges and corners with a squeegee.
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For the UV lamp, I ended up using the one that I purchased with the InvisShield kit. I also tested a UV flashlight I had in the garage for detecting coolant leaks, and it worked great. You can order small UV flashlights on Ebay for around $5 (free shipping) that should work well too, or you can simply let the glue cure by setting it in sunlight. The thing you need to keep in mind is that when the glue sets, it's still sticky. It isn't like epoxy. It cures to a clear, sticky adhesive that's perfect for phone screens. In fact, the LOCA glue is supposed to help fill in and hide cracks in the screen too when sandwiched between the phone and a glass screen protector. I haven't tested it, but it's something to consider if you have a cracked screen.
I strongly recommend watching the InvisShield installation video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCaOeqCH-2o ). It covers the basics well, but there's one thing that they don't mention that is critical. TAPE OVER ALL OF THE OPENINGS ON THE PHONE! When I first installed the InvisShield, a small amount of the glue ran into the hole for the earpiece. I cleaned it with isopropyl alcohol, and thought everything was fine. After the installation, I powered up the phone and discovered that I could barely hear anything, even at the max volume. I just about puked. After a LOT of stress, I managed to clear the excess glue out of the speaker screen with rubbing alcohol, a tiny brush for cleaning electric razors and some compressed air. I can't emphasize this enough... you NEED to be VERY careful about preventing the glue from getting into any of the openings on the phone. If you screw up your device, PLEASE don't complain to me since I feel I've made it abundantly clear that you need to be careful with this stuff. It runs everywhere, and can make a mess even with proper precautions. I used the glass protector as a template to cut a piece of clear packing tape, so I could be sure that the hole was covered without extending under the close-fitting glass.
The dooqi glass has a thin adhesive strip around the outer edge that can be easily pulled off. Just be sure to remove any adhesive residue with something like Goof-Off Professional-Grade. By the way, this stuff also works great for cleaning up cured LOCA. Next, clean the screen and glass with the alcohol wipes included with the dooqi glass. Unlike the InvisShield method of putting a large pool of glue on the bottom and using gravity and capillary action to spread the glue, I applied a heavy strip of glue down the center of the phone. It's better to use more glue than not enough, since removing the glass to add more glue isn't an option.
When doing so, look VERY carefully for even tiny bubbles. If you see one, use something clean (like the corner of the small plastic card in the dooqi kit) to dab out the bubble. Then just line up the glass and lower it gently onto the phone. Don't worry if it's crooked... you'll have plenty of time to straighten it. Let it sit for a couple minutes while the glue spreads. Then take a squeegee ( I used and old gift card) to push the glue to the edges and corners. Work slowly and carefully, wiping the excess glue away with an alcohol soaked cloth. I used to install vehicle wraps, so I learned a long time ago that rushing the job leads to disaster. If you notice air bubble sucking in at the corners, make sure that the glass is perfectly centered on the phone. I noticed that a few bubble kept sucking in from the top, right corner. So, I pushed them back out, and applied a dab of glue on the edge where the glass meets the phone. This way, glue was pulled into the tiny gap instead of air. Also, don't freak out if glue is running off the sides of your phone. Just make sure that you're working on a clean drop-cloth, and have plenty of alcohol soaked cloth wipes for cleaning the excess glue as you work.
Once it's evenly applied, carefully clean up any excess glue and wait a minute or two to be sure that no bubbles suck in from the edge. If glue is covering the front camera hole, don't worry. It will clean off easily once the glue is cured. Then use you lamp, flashlight or sunlight to cure the LOCA glue. I found that about 10 minutes of moving the UV flashlight back and forth around the screen seemed to be sufficient. The InvisShield video warns about over-curing, but I know that my phone will be used frequently in daylight I don't think this is an issue. In fact, I'd feel safer curing it more than not enough, since the last thing you want is for the glass to shift.
Finally, remove the tape and wipe the whole thing down with an isopropyl alcohol moistened cloth. You might have to scrub a bit to get some of the cured LOCA off the edges, but it should clean up pretty easily. And that's it! Mine ended up looking perfect. I'll probably clean around the edges in a couple day to remove any dirt that sticks to the excess glue. Also, check for any gaps that form near the corners. If they appear, use a small dab of glue to fill them and hit it with more UV light. Let me know if you have any questions and I hope that is helpful!
dooqi glass: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dooqi-Full...var=541441961034&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
XFactor glue: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GY4LL3G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
UV flashlight: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-LED-U...035402?hash=item5d7a6eb9ca:g:ZHoAAOSwKXdaconH
Thanks. Very nice write up. At 25.77 total, a much better option than the InvisShield True fit kit. I was going to try the Verizon screen protector, but it cost more than this and has terrible reviews. How long did the whole procedure take?
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Thanks. Very nice write up. At 25.77 total, a much better option than the InvisShield True fit kit. I was going to try the Verizon screen protector, but it cost more than this and has terrible reviews. How long did the whole procedure take?
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I was stopping to take pictures so that added to the time, but I'd estimate that it took me about 30 minutes from start to finish. I'm also really picky and used a magnifier to check for even the tiniest bubbles.
Whitestone Dome Glass has international patent for LOCA(Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive) technology. Different from others, why bother with halo, rainbow and bubbles? Whitestone Dome Glass makes it different. Thanks to LOCA liquid adhesive method and curing process, adhesive is on all areas even on the edges of the screen. Hope you try our Dome Glass next time! For your reference please check to see images on our Twitter or Facebook of LG V30 Whitestone Dome Glass
When Whitestone comes out with glass that's actually curved (in spite of what your Amazon ad incorrectly claims), I'll consider it. Until then, I'll stick with the method I've posted here which costs half as much and exhibits none of the issues you mention. Thanks...
Btw - I did some research and found nothing to suggest that Whitestone has any patents on LOCA glue.
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When Whitestone comes out with glass that's actually curved (in spite of what your Amazon ad incorrectly claims), I'll consider it. Until then, I'll stick with the method I've posted here which costs half as much and exhibits none of the issues you mention. Thanks...
Btw - I did some research and found nothing to suggest that Whitestone has any patents on LOCA glue.
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Do you see any halo, rainbow and bubbles? I think Whitestone's LOCA patent claim is full of it. If so, there would not be InvisibleShield, which is similarly LOCA glued.
I was very careful to check for any bubbles, and I can assure you that there aren't any. As for the other stuff, I have no idea what Whitestone is talking about. It looks just like the unprotected screen, with absolutely no visual defects. It covers the sides of the screen to within 1/32", and is a little over 1/16" short of full coverage on the top and bottom. Also, touch sensitivity is unaffected.
The only thing that worries me - is what will happen when you try to remove it.
Dooqi doesn't ship to Canada... just like InvisShield.
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The only thing that worries me - is what will happen when you try to remove it.
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It removes cleanly. Just slide a thin piece of plastic (like a credit card) under the edge and pop it off. A little bit of alcohol under the edge loosens it nicely. I didn't have any residue, but isopropyl alcohol would remove any if you did. The LOCA glue doesn't harden when it cure. It becomes a tacky adhesive.
I did this. Thanks for the tutorial and links! The only difference is i used the liquid adhesive and UV light that came with my whitestone done glass kit. This is a much cheaper solution for me than buying a replacement glass screen protector.
Thanks again!
p.s. make sure you peel off and get all the adhesive off of the dooqi screen protector and get the air bubbles out or you'll get some air bubbles.
ED2O9, thanks for the write up. I'm now in the process of accumulating the materials to do the full adhesive glass protector.
Just a caveat for anyone doing this. I spent 2 hours going through all of the V30 TG screen protectors on Amazon. All of the clear TG screen protectors without the black borders sold on Amazon ARE NOT FULL COVERAGE protectors, but instead are cut narrower in order to avoid fitting issues over the V30's curved edges. Props to ED209 for doing his homework and pointing the way to the appropriate screen protector that works for the full adhesive application which is the Dooqi TG protector sold on eBay.
However, one caveat: Dooqi offers 2 types of TG screen protectors on eBay. Read the item descriptions before buying. Links are embedded.
1. Dooqi Full Coverage 3D Curved Tempered Glass Screen Protector Saver for LG V30 - This is the one to buy. As mentioned by ED209, the cost is $8.79 for one screen protector. This one has curved edges and provides bezel to bezel screen coverage.
2. 3X Dooqi Premium Ultra Clear Tempered Glass Screen Protector Saver for LG V30 - Avoid this one. This one is cut narrow and covers only the flat surface of the screen, leaving the the curved edges uncovered and exposed. For the cheap price of $7.79 for a 3 pack, it's very easy to be tempted into clicking the Buy It Now button. Don't do it.
Interesting! I just put a whitestone dome on my son's V30+ - quite successfully I might add. He's using a Tech21 Evo Check case, so I knew the whitestone was compatible (see YouTube install video by the "naked" guy). Plus I didn't want to wait 2 weeks for the HongKong based alternative to get here. My son carries his phone in his pocket, and the edge adhesive option wouldn't stay in place for him.
Anyways, I have the extra tube of adhesive from the whitestone, so I might order a piece of glass and try it on mine!
Hey, thanks for the guide.
One thing I also did to help with the process - I used a hair dryer after I put the screen protector on the phone (before the LOCA was fully spread out on the phone).
This helped lower the viscosity and make it easier for the LOCA to move around. I used the hair dryer directly above the middle of the phone. (With the phone off of course).
Edit: Also, you can use the screen protectors with the black borders. Acetone (nail polish remover) does a great job at removing it. The adhesive comes off in one piece just by picking it off with your nails. If there's any residue left, acetone will get that too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075Y3BBJC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is the one with black borders that I used, and it worked great!
Excellent post, thought it would be boring duh ?like. NOT! Very informative. I saw on the page for Dooqi Glass a feature is Anti-UV protection!? I assume this adds more cure time..? I thought 10mins was excessive, but using w cheap light could explain.
I actually bought a kickass (seriously bright) LED uv/black light strip on Amazon for about 20$. Has a USB power source, decent length cable, LOW&HIGHT, and assume a extension port.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075K6NM8F?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
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Excellent post, thought it would be boring duh like. NOT! Very informative. I saw on the page for Dooqi Glass a feature is Anti-UV protection!? I assume this adds more cure time..? I thought 10mins was excessive, but using w cheap light could explain.
I actually bought a kickass (seriously bright) LED uv/black light strip on Amazon for about 20$. Has a USB power source, decent length cable, LOW&HIGHT, and assume a extension port.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075K6NM8F?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
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I used this one and it cured in about a minute. Did it extra to make sure it would stay though https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MJI8OCW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Is it possible to apply your solution to this TGSP
Hi,
Thank you for this detailed procedure.
I'have already ordered a TGSP that cover the maximum of the black front face of the phone since I dont care about case-friendly aspect. But because it have the black edges, do you have a solution to apply the LOCA with this one?
The issue with the edged one is it because the extra glue will not be able to flow outward? Or just because the UV will not work on the edges? If it's because of the UV, is the original glue on the edges PLUS the LOCA glue on the screen should not be an alternative?
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07B2NRTXH/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I love my V30, but I've been agonizing over the best way to protect the screen. Flat glass protectors leave the edges exposed and tend to separate from the corners, while all the curved ones only had adhesive around the edges, so adhesion was weak while touch sensitivity suffered. I'd seen the Whitestone Dome glass, but it wasn't full-coverage. I ended up ordering the InvisShield True fit kit from SGFreshIdea for quite a bit more than the advertised price of $23.37. The cost of the UV light and shipping brought the total $44.09, which was a bit steep and the shipping took almost two weeks. It ended up being a decent kit, but there were a couple things I didn't like. First, the LOCA (Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive) came in two clear vials. Considering the fact that this stuff sets when exposed to UV light (such as daylight), this seemed like a really bad idea. Second, the glass had a large cut-out at the top for the earpiece and front camera. I preferred something with more coverage. Long story short, I realized that this was something I could do using cheaper and, in some cases, better components.
First, I ordered a full-coverage glass from a company called dooqi (seriously) off Ebay. It was $8.79 with free shipping and arrived in less than a week. Be sure to order the clear glass, since the black edged one won't allow the LOCA glue to cure. Then I ordered the XFactor Sticky-Icky1000 LOCA glue for $11.99 with free shipping and arrived in two days (gotta love Amazon Prime). There's a LOT of LOCA glue on Amazon, but you need to order the lowest viscosity possible, since the "normal" glue is too thick to work with easily. The InvisShield glue was VERY thin, almost like water, while the XFactor is more like vegetable oil. The thinner glue spread more easily, but I actually preferred the XFactor since small bubbles seemed to push out with less effort. The main difference is that the InvisShield glue requires no pressure during installation (they tell you NOT to press on the glass), while the XFactor has to be pushed to the edges and corners with a squeegee.
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For the UV lamp, I ended up using the one that I purchased with the InvisShield kit. I also tested a UV flashlight I had in the garage for detecting coolant leaks, and it worked great. You can order small UV flashlights on Ebay for around $5 (free shipping) that should work well too, or you can simply let the glue cure by setting it in sunlight. The thing you need to keep in mind is that when the glue sets, it's still sticky. It isn't like epoxy. It cures to a clear, sticky adhesive that's perfect for phone screens. In fact, the LOCA glue is supposed to help fill in and hide cracks in the screen too when sandwiched between the phone and a glass screen protector. I haven't tested it, but it's something to consider if you have a cracked screen.
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I strongly recommend watching the InvisShield installation video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCaOeqCH-2o ). It covers the basics well, but there's one thing that they don't mention that is critical. TAPE OVER ALL OF THE OPENINGS ON THE PHONE! When I first installed the InvisShield, a small amount of the glue ran into the hole for the earpiece. I cleaned it with isopropyl alcohol, and thought everything was fine. After the installation, I powered up the phone and discovered that I could barely hear anything, even at the max volume. I just about puked. After a LOT of stress, I managed to clear the excess glue out of the speaker screen with rubbing alcohol, a tiny brush for cleaning electric razors and some compressed air. I can't emphasize this enough... you NEED to be VERY careful about preventing the glue from getting into any of the openings on the phone. If you screw up your device, PLEASE don't complain to me since I feel I've made it abundantly clear that you need to be careful with this stuff. It runs everywhere, and can make a mess even with proper precautions. I used the glass protector as a template to cut a piece of clear packing tape, so I could be sure that the hole was covered without extending under the close-fitting glass.
The dooqi glass has a thin adhesive strip around the outer edge that can be easily pulled off. Just be sure to remove any adhesive residue with something like Goof-Off Professional-Grade. By the way, this stuff also works great for cleaning up cured LOCA. Next, clean the screen and glass with the alcohol wipes included with the dooqi glass. Unlike the InvisShield method of putting a large pool of glue on the bottom and using gravity and capillary action to spread the glue, I applied a heavy strip of glue down the center of the phone. It's better to use more glue than not enough, since removing the glass to add more glue isn't an option.
When doing so, look VERY carefully for even tiny bubbles. If you see one, use something clean (like the corner of the small plastic card in the dooqi kit) to dab out the bubble. Then just line up the glass and lower it gently onto the phone. Don't worry if it's crooked... you'll have plenty of time to straighten it. Let it sit for a couple minutes while the glue spreads. Then take a squeegee ( I used and old gift card) to push the glue to the edges and corners. Work slowly and carefully, wiping the excess glue away with an alcohol soaked cloth. I used to install vehicle wraps, so I learned a long time ago that rushing the job leads to disaster. If you notice air bubble sucking in at the corners, make sure that the glass is perfectly centered on the phone. I noticed that a few bubble kept sucking in from the top, right corner. So, I pushed them back out, and applied a dab of glue on the edge where the glass meets the phone. This way, glue was pulled into the tiny gap instead of air. Also, don't freak out if glue is running off the sides of your phone. Just make sure that you're working on a clean drop-cloth, and have plenty of alcohol soaked cloth wipes for cleaning the excess glue as you work.
Once it's evenly applied, carefully clean up any excess glue and wait a minute or two to be sure that no bubbles suck in from the edge. If glue is covering the front camera hole, don't worry. It will clean off easily once the glue is cured. Then use you lamp, flashlight or sunlight to cure the LOCA glue. I found that about 10 minutes of moving the UV flashlight back and forth around the screen seemed to be sufficient. The InvisShield video warns about over-curing, but I know that my phone will be used frequently in daylight I don't think this is an issue. In fact, I'd feel safer curing it more than not enough, since the last thing you want is for the glass to shift.
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Finally, remove the tape and wipe the whole thing down with an isopropyl alcohol moistened cloth. You might have to scrub a bit to get some of the cured LOCA off the edges, but it should clean up pretty easily. And that's it! Mine ended up looking perfect. I'll probably clean around the edges in a couple day to remove any dirt that sticks to the excess glue. Also, check for any gaps that form near the corners. If they appear, use a small dab of glue to fill them and hit it with more UV light. Let me know if you have any questions and I hope that is helpful!
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dooqi glass: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dooqi-Full...var=541441961034&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
XFactor glue: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GY4LL3G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
UV flashlight: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-LED-U...035402?hash=item5d7a6eb9ca:g:ZHoAAOSwKXdaconH
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Almost every curved glass I've seen has a black border. While I haven't tested it, I would think that the black paint would block the UV lamp and prevent proper curing. I've removed the black paint from the glass by using Goof-Off Pro Grade or a similar solvent like acetone. Just be careful around plastics, since these solvents can melt them.
Sticking just with original black band glue on the edges and LOCA on the screen is not a viable solution according to you?
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Almost every curved glass I've seen has a black border. While I haven't tested it, I would think that the black paint would block the UV lamp and prevent proper curing. I've removed the black paint from the glass by using Goof-Off Pro Grade or a similar solvent like acetone. Just be careful around plastics, since these solvents can melt them.
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oglaolga said:
Sticking just with original black band glue on the edges and LOCA on the screen is not a viable solution according to you?
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No... why would you do that? The LOCA glue would prevent the adhesive strip from sticking to the screen. Just peel the strip off and use LOCA for the whole screen.
A near-disaster today, fortunately the screen protector saved the day, but was scraped through to the glass, so it is now removed.
Anybody got any recommendations for the best replacement (It's for Mate 40 RS - but I think all 3 variants have the same screen?)
I don't mind glass (sometimes easier to fit bubble free) but only if the fingerprint sensor still works 100% (never did with my Samsungs!)
Thanks for your thoughts.
Before the curved screens ruined the tempered glass strategy for me I always bought Nillkin tempered glasses. For my Galaxy Note 9 I didn't like them but I decided now to try again.
I ordered this one: https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrySJ4R
It hasn't arrived yet but when it comes I will give feedback.
For my wife's P40 Pro I tried liquid glue(uv cured) glass protector but I hate these things. The glue always spills a bit somewhere and it's very hard to clean it. Also it starts to loosen on the edges very quickly.
Update: I received it but don't like it very much. It sticks for now and no problems for touch but still not very pleasant on the sides. I think I will look for a non glass one....
xchatter said:
Before the curved screens ruined the tempered glass strategy for me I always bought Nillkin tempered glasses. For my Galaxy Note 9 I didn't like them but I decided now to try again.
I ordered this one: https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrySJ4R
It hasn't arrived yet but when it comes I will give feedback.
For my wife's P40 Pro I tried liquid glue(uv cured) glass protector but I hate these things. The glue always spills a bit somewhere and it's very hard to clean it. Also it starts to loosen on the edges very quickly.
Update: I received it but don't like it very much. It sticks for now and no problems for touch but still not very pleasant on the sides. I think I will look for a non glass one....
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did you get it?
klemen241 said:
did you get it?
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Yep, just read the last two lines of my comment.
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Yep, just read the last two lines of my comment.
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i searched for a bit. There are glasses with UV glue, which shoul fit best for this kind of screen. But i doubt glue would go far enough. I need to test one, theyare about 4 dollars. For now for all edge screens, uv was best. In my country, you can get foil for screen installed free in huawei store for weekends. Check it out.
klemen241 said:
i searched for a bit. There are glasses with UV glue, which shoul fit best for this kind of screen. But i doubt glue would go far enough. I need to test one, theyare about 4 dollars. For now for all edge screens, uv was best. In my country, you can get foil for screen installed free in huawei store for weekends. Check it out.
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Thanks for the hint.
Right now I am with a hydrogel one. It surely is not as though as glass but its infinitely more comfortable.
xchatter said:
Thanks for the hint.
Right now I am with a hydrogel one. It surely is not as though as glass but its infinitely more comfortable.
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000900534608.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.31be4c4dno4LBH ordered this one, wil keep you guys posted. I doubt the glue will goas far as the screen does haha.
klemen241 said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000900534608.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.31be4c4dno4LBH ordered this one, wil keep you guys posted. I doubt the glue will goas far as the screen does haha.
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I've tried liquid glue too but on my wife's P40 Pro. It started to loosen up on the edges very fast. Also if you don't clean very well any glue spills are quite nasty and difficult to remove postfactum. I also tried to go in a store for a different liquid glue one and while the guy kept it clean(no spills) it again started to loosen up on the edges very fast. :X
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I've tried liquid glue too but on my wife's P40 Pro. It started to loosen up on the edges very fast. Also if you don't clean very well any glue spills are quite nasty and difficult to remove postfactum. I also tried to go in a store for a different liquid glue one and while the guy kept it clean(no spills) it again started to loosen up on the edges very fast. :X
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ah yes, i am only guy around here who know how to do them professionally. But it realyl depends on glue qulity and quantitie. Last time i messed up oneplus 7 pro so bad haha. But i am guessing mate 40 pro special waterfall screen must be pain in the butt
I've been using those hydrogen films ever since curve screens. most have what they say self healing, which is not bad considered that once glass ones chipped and you have to replace. so far its been good, never had any cracked screens from drops or anything( knock on wood)
Well got 2 glass protectors with uv glue. It kept getting bubbles underneath, messed up all the glue, cleaned, and i am gonna use it without protection hahaha
For anyone who has been using the Mate 40 Pro without a screen protector, how have the screens held up?
I've been trying to find decent protectors and so far I've been disappointed. Either they're too small and don't get to the edge of the curve or they cover the front camera.