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Hahah no..
Do you really think a petition will make any difference? If google decides to not give just one more Android update for the Nexus 5, than it will be over.
A petition will not prevent or do anything about that.
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Hahah no..
Do you really think a petition will make any difference? If google decides to not give just one more Android update for the Nexus 5, than it will be over.
A petition will not prevent or do anything about that.
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No srry man, some years back I've done the same thing for the Nexus 3 (Samsung Galaxy Nexus) because it wasn't getting a official Android KitKat update.
Google is such a big company... they don't care about just a petition. They have given us the promised support time, they owe us nothing.
The only thing we can do is keeping our fingers crossed and keep hoping this awesome phone will get just one more Android update.
BTW, with the ''same thing" I mean signing a petition, not creating one.
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Everything has a limit. The petition will not help. If you want Android N, then install custom ROMs. Nexus 5 was released 3 years ago and it's old enough when it comes to technology. Just buy a new Nexus if you want an official Android update, or custom ROMs like I've said.
This is what irks me about the mindset of people and manufacturers these days..
Just because a device was released a little less than 3 years ago, doesn't mean it's ready for the scrapyard yet.
I haven't played with any of the current flagships but I don't feel the need because my Nexus 5 still runs just great for me. I don't notice any real slowdowns and to me it's just as good as the day I bought it so would should I have to upgrade ???
Case in point, take a look at Apple.. I have an ipad 2 that was released in early 2011. It's on iOS V9 and just reached it's end of life for support this month with the release or iOS 10... And I FULLY UNDERSTAND because it is truly starting to show it's age and run like molasses.
Additionally the Nexus 5 still outperforms most if not all of the newly released "mid range" phones and will probably continue to outperform most of them into next year.
Because carriers subsidize phones over 2 year contracts, a lot of people prefer to go that route and get new subsidized devices. That doesn't mean that people who spend their hard earned money on a device should be obligated to buy a new one to remain current. Outside of the Nexus world I realize this gets incrementally complex with the introduction of the Manufacturers and then the carriers but that's the whole point and allure of buying a Nexus to begin with.
As noted you will see updates continue with this phone for a long time to come via custom roms which will be proof enough to show this phone is more than capable of running the latest and greatest.
I'm disappointed that Google has decided to follow what appears to be a carrier life cycle for supporting their devices.
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Everything has a limit. The petition will not help. If you want Android N, then install custom ROMs. Nexus 5 was released 3 years ago and it's old enough when it comes to technology. Just buy a new Nexus if you want an official Android update, or custom ROMs like I've said.
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thogz11 said:
Everything has a limit. The petition will not help. If you want Android N, then install custom ROMs. Nexus 5 was released 3 years ago and it's old enough when it comes to technology. Just buy a new Nexus if you want an official Android update, or custom ROMs like I've said.
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You have been lobotomized jk
N5 will work flawlessly under Android N. I have no doubt about that.
Luckily, we have custom ROMs but Google should support the Nexus devices for 5 years. Google complains about Android's fragmentation but they do participate by limiting their support. There's no (real) need to buy a new Nexus every 2/3 years.
"Just because a device was released a little less than 3 years ago, doesn't mean it's ready for the scrapyard yet."
This is not a mindset, it's reality and people has nothing to do but to accept it. Manufacturers keep on releasing new phones annually, even 2 phones every year.
If they don't scrap old devices, they can't sell and people won't buy the new devices. It's part of marketing. Of course Nexus 5 still performs great and I'm still using it right now running Marshmallow.
Android is different from iOS. Apple devices has longer support and there are only few iOS devices compare to Android devices. There are too many Android Manufacturers and it is still growing, even Google can't stop it. That's one of the reasons why Google limit and had to shorten its support to old devices.
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This is what irks me about the mindset of people and manufacturers these days..
Just because a device was released a little less than 3 years ago, doesn't mean it's ready for the scrapyard yet.
I haven't played with any of the current flagships but I don't feel the need because my Nexus 5 still runs just great for me. I don't notice any real slowdowns and to me it's just as good as the day I bought it so would should I have to upgrade ???
Case in point, take a look at Apple.. I have an ipad 2 that was released in early 2011. It's on iOS V9 and just reached it's end of life for support this month with the release or iOS 10... And I FULLY UNDERSTAND because it is truly starting to show it's age and run like molasses.
Additionally the Nexus 5 still outperforms most if not all of the newly released "mid range" phones and will probably continue to outperform most of them into next year.
Because carriers subsidize phones over 2 year contracts, a lot of people prefer to go that route and get new subsidized devices. That doesn't mean that people who spend their hard earned money on a device should be obligated to buy a new one to remain current. Outside of the Nexus world I realize this gets incrementally complex with the introduction of the Manufacturers and then the carriers but that's the whole point and allure of buying a Nexus to begin with.
As noted you will see updates continue with this phone for a long time to come via custom roms which will be proof enough to show this phone is more than capable of running the latest and greatest.
I'm disappointed that Google has decided to follow what appears to be a carrier life cycle for supporting their devices.
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I am not worried for the sole fact that the Nexus 5 community has done amazing things, this may become a good thing to entice further development knowing that there would be no more reasons to stay with the stock ROM. Knowing the Nexus 5 sales, it would be dumb for Google to not provide Android N for one of the most future proof devices I know of.
Don't care. Custom roms will do me just fine.
I thought Google were really supporting the Nexus line for 5 years, with 2 additional years for just security updates. I think they didn't care about users complaining for new versions.
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I thought Google were really supporting the Nexus line for 5 years, with 2 additional years for just security updates. I think they didn't care about users complaining for new versions.
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5 years? IT would be awesome, if it would be 2 years would be awesome too. With custom roms i dont care about official updates. Nexus 5 is almost 3 years.
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I was reading an article on androidheadlines.com and it mentions that samsung only promises ONE OS update for our phones. I seem to recall them stating this earlier too. So, if you can only have one update, would you rather get the Froyo update or just skip that one and get the Gingerbread update?
http://androidheadlines.com/2010/09/samsung-beam-android-smartphone-is-not-getting-froyo.html
"Hey Beam users, it doesn’t seem like Samsung cares much about you. They’ve just announced that you will not be getting the Froyo update.
Of course, this is not the same time Samsung is doing this and every time they seem to have a different excuse. What’s the excuse this time? They simply don’t want to consume too much resources on a phone that hasn’t been one of their most popular models. So they are basically saying that if you’re not buying their most popular model, then you can forget about upgrading.
And it’s not like you’re getting upgrades for a decade if you buy the most popular one. You only get 1 upgrade, even if the phone is capable of getting OS upgrades at least 2 more years."
Thoughts??
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And it’s not like you’re getting upgrades for a decade if you buy the most popular one. You only get 1 upgrade, even if the phone is capable of getting OS upgrades at least 2 more years."
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They make this comment without a source?
I'm guessing we are owners of Samsung's most popular phone model??? If that's the case...well it's just sad the way things are being handled. Every time someone goes to Samsung for an answer it's different, which is well documented on these forums. I remember a few months ago remarking about how ridiculous it was that Apple released a product with a fault such as the antennae on the iPhone 4, even more ridiculous that people would buy it. Now here I am with an only sometimes working GPS...and Samsung seems to be ignoring it??
I guess the difference is, I will never again blindly buy a Samsung handset on release day which might be a problem as I'm rather impulsive when it comes to consumer electronics. Apple people will keep on buying no matter how hard they get raped.
Honestly, I'd rather have them give us Gingerbread. CM 6.1 is coming out soon anyway
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Yea, they didnt quote a source on that one upgrade bit. But I seem to recall reading the same thing a while back. I think it was on androidandme, I read that site several times every day so it was probably on there.
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Definitely. If we are only going to get one major upgrade then let it be the newest. The only thing 2.2 had that I wanted was the wifi hotspot and I now have that with mobileap.apk so I'm satisfied.
Samsung would lose way too much business by only offering one update per platform. Although from what I've seen so far it's not like they care all that much.
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Consumer are on the loosing end ;(
http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support
Android users unite, demand upgrades
The state of Android software support is ridiculous, and some Android users have their heads in the sand and make excuses for the problem.
As a group we should demand software updates. 6 months ago Google and their partners in the open handset alliance pledged to address the issue of software updates and nothing has come of this. I still own a Droid Charge only officially running an Android version that came out in 2009.
What has Samsung done since releasing my Charge? Released the Stratosphere, as well as numerous other devices across other carriers.
If you think the average consumer does not care that their phone isn't running the latest software, then you may be correct. But, the average consumer sure as heck cares that his phone does not have the features of other competing companies. Also, stability is another issue, some phones are left running unstable software.
Do not ignore this problem. Android will lose the war if this continues. If this is being compared to the PC market, we are in 1989, Android could be any number of platforms that doesn't make it.
If you care about the platform, demand more of the platform.
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The state of Android software support is ridiculous, and some Android users have their heads in the sand and make excuses for the problem.
As a group we should demand software updates. 6 months ago Google and their partners in the open handset alliance pledged to address the issue of software updates and nothing has come of this. I still own a Droid Charge only officially running an Android version that came out in 2009.
What has Samsung done since releasing my Charge? Released the Stratosphere, as well as numerous other devices across other carriers.
If you think the average consumer does not care that their phone isn't running the latest software, then you may be correct. But, the average consumer sure as heck cares that his phone does not have the features of other competing companies. Also, stability is another issue, some phones are left running unstable software.
Do not ignore this problem. Android will lose the war if this continues. If this is being compared to the PC market, we are in 1989, Android could be any number of platforms that doesn't make it.
If you care about the platform, demand more of the platform.
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Yeah this is true, I'd definitely have to agree. Don't get me wrong, I love Android, but there are some things I wish they would fix. Like the caller waiting feature, it should be updated to be more user friendly. Why should you have to hang up and wait for the automatic call back? They need to rebuild that part of the ui where you can.
Very interesting article. Very true also. It is a sad and troubling issue unfortunately for us. Software support and updates seem to be getting worse and worse for us Android users.
Good thing i got my nexus handset...kind of helps as at least i know google will keep rolling out the updates for at least 18 to 24 months.
The problem is with the big phone manufactures...they skin android too deep and take too long to clear up their mess in order to update the builds. Also they just want us to buy new phones every few months it seems. I intend to see my nexus s contract through to the remaining 12 months for sure. Ice Cream Sandwich looks delicious by the way!
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All they do is release a new model so they force us to buy new device, i might go back to iPhone I am really on the edge.
Well LG just impressed my by updating my moms LG Shine Pus ( think GSM Ally) from 2.1 to 2.3 and i mean the only thing that phone is lacking in is processor. 480x800 screen, 512 ram and a wait for it 600mhz processor. And it is a phone which doesn't require a data plan so my mom only pays like $20 a month for it
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Well LG just impressed my by updating my moms LG Shine Pus ( think GSM Ally) from 2.1 to 2.3 and i mean the only thing that phone is lacking in is processor. 480x800 screen, 512 ram and a wait for it 600mhz processor. And it is a phone which doesn't require a data plan so my mom only pays like $20 a month for it
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If you have no data plan, that means she just use the phone to call and text, she does not need update, this is sad for the smartphone users with data
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If you have no data plan, that means she just use the phone to call and text, she does not need update, this is sad for the smartphone users with data
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Yeah well when we were going to get the phone it was a cheap slider dumb phone and we walked out with one of those and with froyo it brought speed increments which help on the phone and i mean my moms not the kind who even uses data just games and such
Totally agree. Fragmentation is a major issue and a lot of people don't realize that if the issues aren't griped about then they have no reason to fix them.
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Totally agree. Fragmentation is a major issue and a lot of people don't realize that if the issues aren't griped about then they have no reason to fix them.
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Yes a lot of android user know that, they just don't want to admit that sometime they visit android market and download an app and found out the app crashes and wouldn't not work on their device, and still they don't want to say it, because they always want android to win vs apple, rim and wp7, the funny thing is they are not even part of the company, and will manufacturers don't update their device but can release new devices with an updated android OS, so people with money on their hand sell their phone and buy new android device just to update, they want android to win but they do not realize that android is sucking the life out of their pocket.
ICS is too late for it, but I hope J(ellybean) functions more like a launcher and its theme. Just mass update the background OS for all phones (whether through OTA or through website), and let manufacturer/telcom update their skin independently, so that consumers don't have to wait for the (unreliable) promise from manufacturer/telcom.
You hate android, good work, insert_manufacturer fanboy.
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Yes a lot of android user know that, they just don't want to admit that sometime they visit android market and download an app and found out the app crashes and wouldn't not work on their device, and still they don't want to say it, because they always want android to win vs apple, rim and wp7, the funny thing is they are not even part of the company, and will manufacturers don't update their device but can release new devices with an updated android OS, so people with money on their hand sell their phone and buy new android device just to update, they want android to win but they do not realize that android is sucking the life out of their pocket.
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Are we guaranteed by policy that the phones need to be updated? If anyone can check the sales agreement, is it mentioned anything about the future software update?
I have not checked, but I think there is no such obligation from manufacturer. So, in essence they are not breaking the law. We buy a phone on what it has presently, not speculating about future enhancements.
It would be great to have manufacturers give more attention to this update issue. But I doubt anyone could hold them accountable.
It's also obvious that if any of these get updated, it would be only the premier ones, not the budget models.
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You hate android, good work, insert_manufacturer fanboy.
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You just can handle the truth jerk butt
spirikitik said:
You just can handle the truth jerk butt
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Android vs iSO is exactly the same as pc vs console, some people enjoy having freedom on their devices, and constantly upgrade, some people want something like a console, nothing ground breaking but has a bit better stability but no flexibility. (I'm assuming your an Apple fan boy due to the lack of depth to your argument, also perceivable intelligence).
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Android vs iSO is exactly the same as pc vs console, some people enjoy having freedom on their devices, and constantly upgrade, some people want something like a console, nothing ground breaking but has a bit better stability but no flexibility. (I'm assuming your an Apple fan boy due to the lack of depth to your argument, also perceivable intelligence).
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You got me wrong, it is just this fact hurt your ego about the stat of updates and you see it and still don't believe it, you are the android fanboy and for that makes you blind, and your intelligence, stay stagnant like a swamp.
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this is the attitude of a fanboy. "Oh, you don't like my OS? You must be a wp7/iOS fanboy."
Gotta say, I'm a fanboy for no OS and have them all but as far as hardware goes, I'm slowly becoming a Nokia fanboy
Lol z33 you really are funny. And quite the fibber.
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All they do is release a new model so they force us to buy new device, i might go back to iPhone I am really on the edge.
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So do you have iOS5 installed on your iphone, iphone 3G?
Which app is exclusive to gingerbread?
I think you should go back to iphone. It looks like you've made up your mind.
As for updates, US carrier versions tend to be slower and no surprises there with all the bloatware and restrictions they have to build into the firmware
Also there are ton of posts on xda where users with 2.3.3/2.3.4 devices complain about not receiving 2.3.5 updates and same goes for 3.0/3.1 users not receiving 3.2 update without knowing what that new revision brings to the table
As corps begin to adopt smartphones, the first thing a CIO will ask, "What's the Product Life Cycle?"
3GS gets iOS5 but the Nexus One won't get ICS!? Lowe's just ordered 42,000 iPhones, I would have too. Pull your head out Google!!! It's not just the kids who want updates but the grown ups too!
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Hi all,
After ICS OTA upgrade, will I have to reconfigure and reinstall all the apps?? Also, what about the media data?
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It dosen't matter. Just backup with Titanium Backup and restore when it comes.
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You'll want to wait for a rooted version of the OTA anyway. It'll be out hours after the source is released. Then you can just use your favorite backup app to get your stuff back.
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Do we know approximately when the ICS is set to come. Since I got the 3D I haven't really kept up with Nexus news but I'm looking to come back to the flagship.
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Samfirmware stated on twitter two days ago that it was close.
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Don't see why it would take Google sooooo long to release the OTA ? I mean, The community has had it built for Weeks. I guess I'm just a bit too impatient and don't really feel like rooting my phone.
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I'm the same. I've rooted by all the ICS ROM's still have bugs. I'd already have a Galaxy Nexus if they did not delay and delay then have volume bugs! If they released all the drivers from day one, we'd have a million decent custom ROM's...
the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark. say what you will about apple but when an update comes out all compatible devices receive the update that day. obviously im not saying every android should get this update in a timely manner, but a phone by google made for this situation certainly should
I have a question when they said that nexus s should receive ice cream sandwich within " weeks" after galaxy nexus release. Do you guys think the clock has started or are did they mean release in the united states?
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the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark.
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Yeah, you may want to recall how us Nexus One users were treated with Gingerbread when the NS came out. ICS was probably developed primarily on the GN, so NS development slips on the totem pole. At least you are getting official ICS...
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Yeah, you may want to recall how us Nexus One users were treated with Gingerbread when the NS came out. ICS was probably developed primarily on the GN, so NS development slips on the totem pole. At least you are getting official ICS...
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yea your right, im very happy just to be on gingerbread (anyone with an x10 or intercept will agree with me) and i wouldnt even mind waiting for the update, its mostly the lack of any information from google thats killing me
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Don't see why it would take Google sooooo long to release the OTA ? I mean, The community has had it built for Weeks. I guess I'm just a bit too impatient and don't really feel like rooting my phone.
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Because unlike the Community, Google has certain standards it must meet before releasing an OTA. I mean no respect towards the community but no company could ever release partially working builds.
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the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark. say what you will about apple but when an update comes out all compatible devices receive the update that day. obviously im not saying every android should get this update in a timely manner, but a phone by google made for this situation certainly should
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The Nexus S will get a ICS update LOOONNNGGGG before any other phone will and ICS was built for the Galaxy Nexus so THAT was the first and easiest to develop for. The Nexus S is next.
I don't really care the Nexus S gets the update before other phones, I just want it asap.
I'd gladly have every compatible phone receive ICS tomorrow as long as I got it on my NS.
And, much as I don't like it; the Apple comparisons are true. Apple do release new OS available for everyone to download on the same day their new device featuring that OS is launched.
People say that it would be ridiculous to expect updates until the GN has been out a while, but why? Google should have made the next update available on the day they announced ICS.
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I don't really care the Nexus S gets the update before other phones, I just want it asap.
I'd gladly have every compatible phone receive ICS tomorrow as long as I got it on my NS.
And, much as I don't like it; the Apple comparisons are true. Apple do release new OS available for everyone to download on the same day their new device featuring that OS is launched.
People say that it would be ridiculous to expect updates until the GN has been out a while, but why? Google should have made the next update available on the day they announced ICS.
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Apple also restricts new features to older phones to encourage people to upgrade. Just look at Siri as a fine example, it's *only* available on the 4s even though it's been proven that it will run fine on the 4. Similar constraints can be found with each model upgrade.
When ICS comes out for the nexus S, it will be fully functional with no neutering of any feature. so how does one "encourage" people to upgrade? you delay the update to crank in some early sales.
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Apple also restricts new features to older phones to encourage people to upgrade. Just look at Siri as a fine example, it's *only* available on the 4s even though it's been proven that it will run fine on the 4. Similar constraints can be found with each model upgrade.
When ICS comes out for the nexus S, it will be fully functional with no neutering of any feature. so how does one "encourage" people to upgrade? you delay the update to crank in some early sales.
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all because thats true it doesnt make the other point invalid. When a new iphone comes out, all iphones (and ipod touches mind you) get the update that day.
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all because thats true it doesnt make the other point invalid. When a new iphone comes out, all iphones (and ipod touches mind you) get the update that day.
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Does the iPod second generation have IOS 5? What about the original iPhone?
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Matridom said:
Does the iPod second generation have IOS 5? What about the original iPhone?
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is the nexus one getting ICS? how about the G1?
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is the nexus one getting ICS? how about the G1?
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Point, but this is due to hardware limitations. Siri for example will run fine on older devices. also if I know the Xda, there will be a ROM available
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Point, but this is due to hardware limitations. Siri for example will run fine on older devices. also if I know the Xda, there will be a ROM available
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of course there will be, there already are roms available now for the g1. the original iphone obviously has the same problem the g1 has, hardware limitations. When 4.0 came out the iphone 3gs was laggy and almost unusable until apple released a second update to fix the mess. But were losing sight of the point, when an OS is released by apple all phones (fine all compatible phones) get it that day. Sure it doesnt have all the features as the newest iphones, and by not all the features i mean ONE feature as in siri, but they get the update at least. What have we received since the galaxy nexus was released? And i honestly dont even care enough to keep talking about it, but when ever people hear about apple they always have to but in with "YEA BUT APPLE SUCKS CAUSE ____" which isnt the point, i was making a comparison.
like i said before all because one statement is true, it doesnt make the other statement false.
So I had a Droid Eris from launch. Rooted, up to 2.2 (2.3 maybe), overclocked, blah blah, then Apple said, "Verizon....thoust shall have iPhone". I was due for an upgrade, traded in my eris, and got an iPhone 4. Well the time has come again. I am due for an upgrade this October. It has been awhile, but my #1 reason for leaving Android was the fragmentation of the software. It seemed that there were only a select few phones that got the new software when it came out. Is this still true? I will wait to see what the iPhone 5 has to offer, but who knows, with the right droid I might come back....
Well, fragmentation has been a problem for android...
Currently, the "best" android on the market are quad core ones, with Sgs3 leading the pack overall...
However, if you want a pure google experience, and a device which is future-update proof, you should seriously consider the Galaxy Nexus...(or its phone successor, in the Nexus line)
These are guaranteed updates for atleast two android versions since they do not run any custom skin on the OS...
Also, the Nexus line is the first to receive official updates, coming directly from Google...
Since you haven't had problems with iOs, you can wait for iPhone 5...
(I'll keep my viees on iOS and Apple to myself, and urge fellow users to give unbiased follow-ups)
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Thanks for the incite. I am a Verizon guy, so the SG3 (for now) is my main choice. Wish google would release the Nexus for Verizon.
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Well, fragmentation has been a problem for android...
Currently, the "best" android on the market are quad core ones, with Sgs3 leading the pack overall...
However, if you want a pure google experience, and a device which is future-update proof, you should seriously consider the Galaxy Nexus...(or its phone successor, in the Nexus line)
These are guaranteed updates for atleast two android versions since they do not run any custom skin on the OS...
Also, the Nexus line is the first to receive official updates, coming directly from Google...
Since you haven't had problems with iOs, you can wait for iPhone 5...
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6.0 update first than the note 5....
And when you go to another manufacturer they may be worse at the next update than Samsung is. There is no consistency when it comes to updates. I have had HTCs that got updates way after Samsung did. It's all pretty much luck of the draw unless you get a Nexus device.
I get your frustration but updates alone do not determine the quality of a device or the manufacturer. Anyone come from a Note 4? Remember the 5.0.1 update that murdered the battery life? I do. 5.1.1 runs beautifully on my phone for now. I'd rather wait a bit longer for a polished update that actually improves my user experience than get fast, half-baked updates that make things worse.
I agree. Note 4 was killed. And I bought nexus 4 after so much hardships and the first update it got was after Motorola and nexus 7 devices. Hahahha even nexus ditched me.
As bad as it is, if you want steady updates get a nexus. I swore off samsung long ago but still played with a note 3 from time to time then one day in Costco, I saw they were running a promotion on the Note 5 where you get all the pay offers but also a $250 Costco card and when I added it all up plus the headphones, wireless charger and the portable charger the deal was just to good and I bit. I do miss frequent updates, the freedom of running whatever I wanted or compiling my own with various cherry picks but I new that going into another samsung device. You have to consider the advantages of the Note 5, it's arguably one of the fastest phones, good camera, good battery life and the s-pen. For all that you don't get zero day updates.
Ducter said:
As bad as it is, if you want steady updates get a nexus. I swore off samsung long ago but still played with a note 3 from time to time then one day in Costco, I saw they were running a promotion on the Note 5 where you get all the pay offers but also a $250 Costco card and when I added it all up plus the headphones, wireless charger and the portable charger the deal was just to good and I bit. I do miss frequent updates, the freedom of running whatever I wanted or compiling my own with various cherry picks but I new that going into another samsung device. You have to consider the advantages of the Note 5, it's arguably one of the fastest phones, good camera, good battery life and the s-pen. For all that you don't get zero day updates.
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I did want steady udpates but couldnt afford to pay full price on a nexus 6p. I couldve got the 6s+ but I came from a 5s so i wanted to try something new. Note 5 was the best when comparing them to the other android flagships at the tmobile store... so i chose it. Before, i heard from someone or an article stating that samsung was going to push updates quicker this time around, and that google will pressure manufacturers to release updates more early. I guess samsung didnt care.. i learned my lesson. This is also my first samsung device.
kabuk1 said:
I get your frustration but updates alone do not determine the quality of a device or the manufacturer. Anyone come from a Note 4? Remember the 5.0.1 update that murdered the battery life? I do. 5.1.1 runs beautifully on my phone for now. I'd rather wait a bit longer for a polished update that actually improves my user experience than get fast, half-baked updates that make things worse.
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I understand what youre saying but how long has marshmallow been out? Since october, right? Almost 4 months. And manufactures are already releasing 6.0 update to their devices.. Eh... whatever. I shouldnt complain, because i dont like complaining. But, i just hate it when people dont keep their word.
I think I'm missing the point here. The pic you posted specifically states only a few Lg G3s got the update. I understand your issue is that it's an older phone and it still got MM before ours did, but even if you were to ditch the Note 5 for a G3, there's still a solid chance you won't be on MM. The only way to guarantee you get the latest update timely is to get a nexus. It's a total crap shoot when it comes to OEMs and updates. This year Samsung is behind, next year it will be another OEM, then another after that. Just about every OEM specific forum complains about slow updates.
Right now, 5.1.1 runs like a bandit on the Note 5. I'd rather Samsung polish it up and release a fully functional, bug-free update, than rush it out the door and destroy my battery life. Plus, who's to say that MM doesn't run like poop on the G3?
My T-Mobile Note5 has had 4 updates already. So technically, Samsung is pushing updates faster. Plus, I mean, it's difficult to punish the manufacturers when the carriers are often what causes delays. I'd rather they take their time then push out a crappy, half-baked update. I don't feel as though I am missing out on anything. I have an M9 (international version. US carriers haven't pushed it) running Marshmallow and it's not all that much different on the surface. Sure Marshmallow adds Doze, permission and more under the hood goodies, but it isn't the be all end all of updates.
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Frustration is understood, but you also expressed your opinion on other posts. If your really that pissed off, just change different brands. Don't keep complaining. Look at the Note 4 thread complaining about the Note 5 features. Everyone that bought this phone should have known from the start that Samsung may not be "timely" with their updates. So? If your phone is working fine, then why complain about it now. If you go to an iPhone 6s+, just warning you, you will miss the features of Android. If you want updates to happen at a timely manner, go with the nexus 6P or 5X since they get updates straight from Google.
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That what kills me, if it works then why be chomping at the bit for the next update in such a way that now you have to run out and get an iPhone. I mean even with the security argument of having older versions of android, now with how they drop service updates that even becomes a thing of the past.
If updates are that important to someone then being an informed consumer would've done this guy a lot of justice instead of running out and impulse buying The Next Big Thing, only to throw a fit over it later.
I would have gotten the 6p if carriers sold it since my work provides my phones as long as the carrier or my choice sells it.
I went with the Note 5 as the best alternative option for my wants and an very happy with the device. Being the first Note I've owned, I really am amazed at how much I like and use the s-pen and at this point don't think I'd want to give it up for the 6P if I could.
The only I'm looking forward to with marshmallow is Doze and the finger print API being switched over to Androids own implementation as I hope it allows me to use my finger print with play store purchases.
All of this talk is making me hungry. Guess I will go have me some marshmallows since my phone can't
Can't rush perfection lol
Looks like sammy is learning from its past
This is been going on since I had the vibrant back in the day. Nexus devices are the only sure way to get updates in a timely matter.
Seriously why do people get up in arms about updates? Marshmallow isnt even that big of a deal anyways. Coming on here and saying you're done with Samsung all because your phone didn't get the update yet is...well...kind of pointless.
Not saying you dont have a right to voice your opinion, but its pointless to get upset over an update. We don't even need an update. Are we really going to benefit from MM? Straight up no.
Leave Samsung, fine. But dont do it just because of a software update. Do it because they suck at making great devices, which obviously they don't.
I'm glad you're able to get a Nexus, at least you will finally be happy to get updates. It sucks losing a fellow device user, but it is what it is.
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Yeah...I'm frustrated too, but I'm not DONE with Samsung. I just call T-Mobile, gripe a bit to Corporate, get a $150 credit! Takes the sting right outta my update complaint. Hahahaha! WINNING!
Please don't talk about quality saying be patient.... Really look at all the other phone manufacturers releasing updates, and we are sitting on one of the flagship phones and don't have access to 6.0.... No excuses,
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Please don't talk about quality saying be patient.... Really look at all the other phone manufacturers releasing updates, and we are sitting on one of the flagship phones and don't have access to 6.0.... No excuses,
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A what other phones have received Marshmallow? Just a couple and those aren't US carrier phones. The fact is, most often US carrier branded phones don't ever get updates before international unlocked phones. The carriers are to blame for that, not the manufacturers. Realistically, very few phones have the Marshmallow update.
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Seriously why do people get up in arms about updates? Marshmallow isnt even that big of a deal anyways. Coming on here and saying you're done with Samsung all because your phone didn't get the update yet is...well...kind of pointless.
Not saying you dont have a right to voice your opinion, but its pointless to get upset over an update. We don't even need an update. Are we really going to benefit from MM? Straight up no.
Leave Samsung, fine. But dont do it just because of a software update. Do it because they suck at making great devices, which obviously they don't.
I'm glad you're able to get a Nexus, at least you will finally be happy to get updates. It sucks losing a fellow device user, but it is what it is.
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Doze will help battery life, and some people are into permissions selection, but that's about it. It's a mentality that some folks have. If they don't have the newest and "best" they feel as if they're missing out. Like I said, I have an HTC M9 running Marshmallow and it's kind of a meh update. Not nearly as exciting as Lollipop was. It's just a mindset with some folk. *shrug*
I agree with others here in regards to Samsung/TMO pushing out smaller updates faster. When that stagefright crap went down, and pretty much all OEMs said 'we are going to start releasing monthly updates', I laughed. No way that was going to happen. 3 or so months later and they have actually been doing a pretty good job. Baby steps.
And let us not forget, TMO doesn't help the problem... they usually make it worse. Two levels to updates.
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I've got the 6p and note 5 and I can tell you the only your missing is doze, permission selection, and imprint. Although layers is enabled in 6.0 we n5 users probably won't be able to use it anyway
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