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I have this weird issue i have only just noticed. In the middle of my screen, there is almost a perfect rectange of slightly discoloured, rainbowy effect on the screen. It is right in the centre of the screen, and goes to aout 1cm from the edge the whole way round.
Its like the digitizer has detached or pushed up against the screen. I cant remember doing anything to it. And if i run my finger over it, the rainbow effect moves/follows my finger then snaps back to the rectangle (kind of like when you have a bubble under a screen protector).
Also the area under this spot is slightly less sensitive and seems to be giving the odd random input.
Do you rekon this would be covered under warranty? I cant remember doing anything to the screen, and the fact is so pefectly placed in the middle of the screen.
Hey,
Mine does this as well... It's a perfect rectangle, and only visible in strong (especially flourescent) light. Can't notice any differences in input though. Interested to see what people think, and if it's a common problem. Can't remember any incident that could have led to this, I take care of my phone.
In case it helps, it's a UK Vodafone Touch Pro, with the latest HTC WWE ROM.
I have had a similair effect but not a perfect rectangle. somewhere mid screen slightly to the right I had a bubble of rainbow colour. I actually thought it was underneath the screenprotector so i bought a new one to change it. To my surprise the bubble was still there but internally.
I used to have my phone with the protective leather thingy in my jeans. I decided to take it out for a while. And what do you know. after a day the bubble dissapeared. I then put it back in my jeans and checked every hour. The bubble came back. So i'm guessing pressure on the glass internally or something.
Nowadays I dont carry it around in my tight jeans anymore. I use the protective leather that came with it and put it in my jacket pocket instead.
Edit: It has all the attributes xternal listed. The bubble that is.. less responsive random input rainbow following finger. In my case it has been due to pressure on the screen from my tight jeans. Yours might be something else though...
thanks for replies guys, sounds identical to what i have. i thought it was screen protector too, took it off to clean and noticed it was below. wasted blue, i was almost about to edit my post to include exactly what you said about flourescent light.
maybe it has happened from being in my tight jeans, strange that wasted blue and i have the same sized area though.
i have a fuze.
Mine is the Htc Touch Pro from HI, KPN Netherlands.
Xternal i would suggest you don't keep your phone in your jeans for a while and see if the bubble dissapears. Might take a few days at first. just put it in your jacket or something. If it dissapears you know what it is. I don't think this will fall under warranty. if it sticks regardless of pressure you might get warranty...
Oeh i just remember. If the backlight is out you will see a blacker than black dot on the screen where the bubble is supposed to be. if the light goes on its rainbowy fluorecent.
Thanks King, i have taken the protector off and will keep it out of my pocket. The pattern is the same if the backlight is on or off. Id post a photo, but its really hard to get it to show up in a photo.
Im of the opinion now that as you say, the digitizer is pushed against the screen, not detached. Hopefully it pops back
Hey guys.. same issue for a lot of people
It is something like this:
http://contactus.htc.com/Download.aspx?TicketID=396548&ReplyID=2&FileName=IMGP6088.jpg
Look at what HTC told me:
New Response From [ Cathy (Malaysia Support (Tech)) ]
Dear xxxx,
We regret to inform you that based on our warranty policy, we can not provide you the free repair on this issue.
If the touch window having some rainbow mark, it is caused by extra force enter to the touch window and it is under user misused. Thus, there is no Warranty Provided.
Thanks.
Best regards.
HTC
After some rants:
Thank you for contacting HTC. With reference to your query, we understand you are upset for this issue. But according to the HTC warranty policy, the LCD is not covered by warranty. Please check the attachment for HTC warranty policy. For the "newton rings" issue, we recommend you send it to service center to replace the LCD. Thanks.
HTC
Some consolidation of threads:
//forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439410 - Diamond Screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475294 - TP and HD screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=504899 - Sprint
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2934571#post2934571 - TP
Thanks for the help guys, I'll try keeping it out of my jeans pocket for a while. Sounds like this "newton ring" problem in the other therads though. I'd tried replacing the screen protector as well before, but no joy there. Might need to try to get a replacement (took out insurance on it), but guess I'd need to flash back to the carrier ROM.
Anybody know how good Vodafone UK's insurance is about newton rings?
Just read kingpinda's post again, when my backlight is off I can still see the rings, so doesn't sound like the same problem. I'll still try it though, thanks.
This topic has clues for replacing the screen. I have not concluded an manual for chancing it yet but reading this whole topic gives you the big picture how it is done. Questions are always welcome and I try to answer them with my knowledge. This 1st post gives you 2 links to follow for pics about changing screen and my own starting point for chancing my own screen.
Has anyone bought and installed a digitizer+screen set which is on sale at ebay? I could not post direct link to ebay because I'm a newbie on these forums. You can find the product searching ebay with these keywords "I9000 digitizer". My galaxy's screen cracked and I need an replacement. Both screen and glass broke. I think that this set includes them both. There is also told in the questions that the set infact includes amoled display and not LCD as the title says.
Second question is that does someone have an service manual somewhere. Would be nice to know how to break apart my phone when replacing screen.
Third question is that doesn't samsung vibrant and galaxy s share the same chassis but different screen with more capacitive buttons. Could it be possible to install vibrant's screen to galaxy s?
PS. The way my galaxy brokedown is very funny. I lay down my phone on the kitchen table and the screen cracked. I was like OMFG when I heard the cracking noise. Phone was like 13 days old. Samsung does not repair it with warranty because they think that it wasn't an manufacturing defect. They said that I have dropped my phone and that's the way it broke. That could not be the case because I handled it like a baby. I would have to pay 255€ for new screen and digitizer. Hell no!! I'm a student so that sum does not fit with my wallet.
New screen installed, see posts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7683527&postcount=37 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7710572&postcount=40
Edit: Ebay's prices have rised noticeable in the last couple of months. At the moment the price for these screens is around 100$. I found this site which sells them for 60£. http://www.shineyourmobile.co.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=8128
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Second question is that does someone have an service manual somewhere. Would be nice to know how to break apart my phone when replacing screen.
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There are 2 videos on the net, both on youtube I think. Just search "i9000 Disassembly" and you'll find one of them.
The Galaxy S has a serious design flaw as the glass goes around the home button (and the call ear/speaker) so it's very vulnerable there to shattering. I had my phone in the pocket and suddenly when I take it out I see it cracked right next to the home button. What had I done during the time it got cracked? The only possible explanation was carrying a _small_ speaker that then probably hit it. I was so surprised when I saw it cracked because even a speaker hit, when I lifted it up, is hard to consider cracking the screen.
So international model Galaxy S owners, be careful at the bottom and top of the screen. They're the weak points of the glass. For me only the glass cracked and not the screen so it will be interesting to see how much it will cost to fix.
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So international model Galaxy S owners, be careful at the bottom and top of the screen. They're the weak points of the glass. For me only the glass cracked and not the screen so it will be interesting to see how much it will cost to fix.
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I think that you can't change only the glass. Amoled screen is so thin and I believe it's glued pretty thight to the glass. Separating them may be impossible without tearing the amoled.
the same...
i had a similar unfortunate event ... my screen cracked when i hit the phone to the metallic frame of a chair (it slipped out of my hand )...
it cracked exactly like you people said... near the home button.
i ordered the display + digitizer and i anxiously await its arrival to see if i can replace the damaged one.
it is quite tricky to dissassemble the display part but hope to succed...
keep you posted with the outcome
respect
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I think that you can't change only the glass. Amoled screen is so thin and I believe it's glued pretty thight to the glass. Separating them may be impossible without tearing the amoled.
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Yeah that's my fear but I presume they just heat up the glue. That's how some industries do for other products. I think dental bracers (& its glue) have a different technique as well. So, will be interesting to see.
gallaxya said:
i ordered the display + digitizer and i anxiously await its arrival to see if i can replace the damaged one.
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Where did you order it from?
If you were asked to pay more than $250 for screen replacement, then why don't you send it to Samsung in Korea? They will replace your SAMOLED for mere USD $100ish and ship it back to you for free (or may be not). This way you get a genium quality from original manufacturer and absolutely no hassles!
I dropped mine from around 4ft onto a concrete floor and its fine. Maybe I just got lucky.
Digitizer+Samoled set ordered from ebay. I should get it in two weeks. If possible I try to take pictures of the changing process and make an manual. I hope it's not glued tight to the chassis.
please do, i have some f***ing little scratches all over the screen, thought it was supposed to be scratch resistant.
Worst part is that it's in it's protective pouch all the time (maybe that's the probleme, dirt/dust might get trapped and rub against the screen).
Got my digitizer and amoled screen t
oday. I will report back if its a hard job or not to replace it.
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Got my digitizer and amoled screen t
oday. I will report back if its a hard job or not to replace it.
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I tried to remove broken screen for 2 hours and no luck. Removing the motherboard is problematic because power button is glued to the chassis so I could only turn the motherboard aside and not remove it completely. I tried also to remove metal edge but I could only separate it from the left and right edge, not from top and bottom. I hope you have better luck and report how you managed to overcome my problems.
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I tried to remove broken screen for 2 hours and no luck. Removing the motherboard is problematic because power button is glued to the chassis so I could only turn the motherboard aside and not remove it completely. I tried also to remove metal edge but I could only separate it from the left and right edge, not from top and bottom. I hope you have better luck and report how you managed to overcome my problems.
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Sorry to say got in to the same problems
Looks like the phone is build around the screen. Be careful with the metal ring, on top and bottom its between the screen and chassis, so if you brute force to much the screen cracks even more. The screen is glued to the chassis all around with superglue. I am not sure if its even possible to repalce the screen. It let me thinking that samsung wont repair broken galaxys , just replace them.
Ill keep working on the phone and keep trying, but compared to changing the screen on iphone is this like changing the screen on a iphone as a blind man without arms.
People thinking of buying this screen kit on eBay, don't do it. Just contact samsung for a repair.
Ill keep you posted.
I got the screen off.
No need to loosen the metaling ring around. The screen in dropped in the chassis from the front.
On the mainboard, just pop off the screen cable, long and flat next to the SD card slot.
The next step is very strange, just use brute force and crack the screen off the chassis, start from the top
When you get around the home button, be careful. Samsung has clued 2 sensors to the screen and chassis for back and option button. Best thing to do here is bend the screen back a little and cut loos the sensors from the digitizer with a sharp knife/scalpel. Samsung has used insane amount of clue on this phone.
Both the digitizer and amoled screen was clued to the chassis.
The next step is to clean off all the clue, buy loads of glue. Fill the chassis with glue and press the new screen on.
Wish me luck.
Ill keep you posted.
Making me a bit scared reading this thread, I`ve just bought phone Insurance just in case.Good luck fitting your replacement screens, sounds a bit daunting.
YES!!!
New screen in place and everything is working perfectly. Took about 3 hours first time (give or take). Its possible to do it a lot faster. The biggeste problem is the glue. Melting at about 120 celsius, but i was scared to heat the glas as i didnt know how much heat the mainbord could stand. All in all a pain in the a**, but doable.
I can also confirm this screen from ebay to be an orginal samsung amoled screen.
Best of luck too others trying a screen replace.
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amoled or samoled though?
My mistake. Its a samoled screen
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Awesome!!! thanks for the review
did you manage to snap a few pictures meanwhile you were working in your phone?
Im sorry, no pictures
The charger is missing to my canon camera, new one incomming from ebay. I'll post pictures next time ill change the screen ;-)
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So, few days ago my Touch pro(GSM) started with this weird issue. It looks like a circular spot <1cm diameter. It looks like pressure is applied to the display from back of the display. I tried to take photo when I disassembled phone and tried to resolve this, but display is glossy and camera cannot properly focus :-( spot i located in place where there are hatch(door) mechanism on back. When I dissasembled phone there was nothing causing pressure. I found out that if I press corners on diagonal axis spot disappears. I think that back of the display is arched in some way and pressure on chasis of phone press arched back againts lcd crystals. It happened when I was wearing my TP in jeans pocket. So first thought was that some stich in pocket, or something was presing againts display, but I am almost sure that this is caused by pressure on body of phone. Its night here so I will see tommorow If dissasembling, tinkering with screwdriver helped, but I dont believe this much. Question is: Did someone experienced this kind of issue? How do you resolved it? Will buying new display from ebay help?(I think yes, but there is possibility that display is ok and body is deformed in some way)
Thanks for your time.
Does it look as an oil spot?
Try to raise the membrane with vacuum or sticker and you'll see,if it disappears for a moment.
If so,I am affraid,you have to replace display/digitizer.
I got this oilspot on one of my Himalayas.
Also touch isn't working on this place,anywhere else is working,but after raising the membrane.
Well, I am 100% sure that digitizer is ok, because spot was on display. Touch functionality was ok but display was having strange colors and after disappearing light yellow tint in place of spot. As I took apart my Touch pro, I was ok with buying new display so I looked how old si attached to the case and bended it a little. Spot disappeared and display is still ok and I consider it repaired. Maybe it was really only the bended back or it was one of those self repairing defects.
I don't have a G2X yet, but I wonder if an owner who has some LCD bleed might want to try this out and report any results.
Screen bleed is a pretty common problem across LCD's. I don't think it's so much of a manufacturing defect as it is due to shifting during transport etc. All that has to happen is a corner of the screen gets too far or too close to the back light behind it. The screens tend to shift around a bit in their casing.
A common fix on regular LCD monitors is to massage the area of the bleed with medium or firm pressure. This can move the screen enough to reduce bleed.
Not sure if this would work on a glass-surface device like the G2X but it's probably worth a shot. Also try massaging with pressure *behind* the phone, not just on the front glass.
Ipad 2 seems to be having some bleed issues as well, and some owners report that slight twisting of the entire device corner-to-corner can re-seat the screen in the proper position and reduce bleed. Be careful with this one, but again, might be worth a shot to apply some twisting pressure.
Not recommending that anyone does this who isn't comfortable and ok with the possible consequences! But... as I live in Canada and want a G2X, it would be a lot easier to know that this sort of thing might fix the bleed than it would be to attempt returning it to the USA or an ebay reseller.
Please keep the "ARE YOU CRAZY?!" replies to a minimum... if you don't want to do it then simply don't do it.
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I don't have a G2X yet, but I wonder if an owner who has some LCD bleed might want to try this out and report any results.
Screen bleed is a pretty common problem across LCD's. I don't think it's so much of a manufacturing defect as it is due to shifting during transport etc. All that has to happen is a corner of the screen gets too far or too close to the back light behind it. The screens tend to shift around a bit in their casing.
A common fix on regular LCD monitors is to massage the area of the bleed with medium or firm pressure. This can move the screen enough to reduce bleed.
Not sure if this would work on a glass-surface device like the G2X but it's probably worth a shot. Also try massaging with pressure *behind* the phone, not just on the front glass.
Ipad 2 seems to be having some bleed issues as well, and some owners report that slight twisting of the entire device corner-to-corner can re-seat the screen in the proper position and reduce bleed. Be careful with this one, but again, might be worth a shot to apply some twisting pressure.
Not recommending that anyone does this who isn't comfortable and ok with the possible consequences! But... as I live in Canada and want a G2X, it would be a lot easier to know that this sort of thing might fix the bleed than it would be to attempt returning it to the USA or an ebay reseller.
Please keep the "ARE YOU CRAZY?!" replies to a minimum... if you don't want to do it then simply don't do it.
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I just tried and I will say that the places that I had it originally did not get fixed or seem to be any dimmer than before which would have been nice... My bleeding is not that bad anyway...
However, the first time i twisted the phone a bit i noticed some more bleeding in the upper left of my phone (portrait directional) before i twisted it back to normal...
Good idea, but i would not recommend anything until we have some concrete evidence of it really working to fix ORIGINAL problems
lol this is not a fix and NEVER was a fix... you cant "massage" a LCD tv.... and a phone is no different gorilla glass or not it will NOT reset the screen.... good attempt at trying to find a solution but the bleeding isnt from the screen being out of place... its from poor manufacturing...
some bleeding is expected with LCD technology ... but not as bad as ive seen on some peoples ..... let alone on a 4" screen... but w/e if you have full brightness and are in a dark room then you must be blind.....
I wouldn't do it because you have to disassemble and it may void the warranty; in addition, you may break the LCD if you apply too much force.
If the bleeding/backlight leak is bad, just send it back and exchange.
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lol this is not a fix and NEVER was a fix... you cant "massage" a LCD tv....
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Yes, you can. I fixed all bleed from my Acer 26" lcd by doing exactly this. I could see and feel the panel noticeably creaking back as I did it.
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Yes, you can. I fixed all bleed from my Acer 26" lcd by doing exactly this. I could see and feel the panel noticeably creaking back as I did it.
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I've done the same, actually.
It made it a lot worse on mine. Good, though, as I plan to exchange it.
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I've done the same, actually.
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well i never herd of "massaging" a tv to fix it but i wouldnt do it to my 52" samsung cuz the manual states DO NOT PUSH FIRMLY ON SCREEN WHEN CLEANING so i dunno how it would work without taking it apart and "pushing the screen" back to the right spot...
let alone i got a 3 year warranty from best buy on it.. and if i crack it open AT ALL it voids so no thanks if anyone does this and it works on a phone i will be awed....
AND you shouldnt have to push the screen on ANYTHING to fix it... it should come correctly assembled in the first place....
just my .02 tho
I actually did fix my girlfriends bleeding with some massaging....Worked for me..
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I actually did fix my girlfriends bleeding with some massaging....Worked for me..
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what you did there. . .
I tried the massage but it doesn't work. I have very bad light bleeding from the top corners, and if I squeeze hard enough on top and bottom of the phone, it's a little better, but as I release my hands, everything goes back to normal, very bad looking darks colors. I'm exchanging it.
When my LCD screen started bleeding, I just put a bandaid on it
Asus bleeding
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Yes, you can. I fixed all bleed from my Acer 26" lcd by doing exactly this. I could see and feel the panel noticeably creaking back as I did it.
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I have heard of this a lot. Massaging the LCD. I too am looking to fix a laptop screen. I heard before to massage the back of it, what side did you do? No one here who was successful mentioned if they did it to the front or back so I figured I'll do as you did? Thanks any help much appreciated!
My iPhone 5 is bleeding, pushed on it gently and it only made the black blotch spread. I don't recommend this
Well, the more posts I see around, the less optimistic I am about seeing Asus fix the light bleed issues with the TF. For some reason, this is the only issue that is bothering me enough to consider returning it. If it wasn't for that, I would be a 95% satisfied customer.
Anyways, instead of waiting for answers, I figured I'd look for alternative methods of fixing the light bleed. I came across this post:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1125227
Do you think it's possible. First we need to know what exactly causes this light bleed to be able to address it. It could be simpler than we thought.
Have you guys tried this? Any other recommendations?
Well bang away and let us know what happens.....
P.S. Go JETS.
Not sure if you could do this due to gorilla glass overlay
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From everything I've seen on the internet, I just think light bleed is problem of the technology, its what happens when you have a screen that is using a side lit LED screen vs a back lit LED screen. (Ipad2, Transformer, and multitude of LED Tv's). Its the drawback of having the thinnest screen that everyone is wanting.
I'm not so sure, mine didn't have bleed at all until after I'd had it a couple of days, it just appeared. I'd handled it with kids gloves. I'm wondered if the light bleed may be caused by the case distorting a bit due to internal heat and or the fact that the housing isn't particularly strong?
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I'm not so sure, mine didn't have bleed at all until after I'd had it a couple of days, it just appeared. I'd handled it with kids gloves. I'm wondered if the light bleed may be caused by the case distorting a bit due to internal heat and or the fact that the housing isn't particularly strong?
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If you carefully put pressure on the bezel you will notice that the light bleed is changing. It seems to be a dynamic process so your observation doesn't mean you "abused" the tablet. It's just the problem with having a flexible material (plastic) as case.
That means that it must be related to some pressure on those spots where the light bleed is originating from. Perhaps there is a way to relieve it some?!
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That means that it must be related to some pressure on those spots where the light bleed is originating from. Perhaps there is a way to relieve it some?!
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I have no idea if the following is true but I think I remember the light bleed is caused by insufficient sealing. So if you morph the case it might lift the seal more. To find the right spots to fix this is very difficult IMHO (acupressure ).
Flex your TF or press on areas of the bezel and you will affect the light bleed.
There is no way to fix without disassembling it and having right tech to reassemble in a way that is perfectly even.
What causes light bleed?
Kinda a dumb question.
You see, an LCD panel needs this thing called a 'backlight', that shines through the liquid crystal layer. It's filtered by the liquid crystals to produce different colors.
Well, sometimes this backlight can 'bleed' around the edges of the LCD because it's not sealed up properly.
The 'fix' for this on a device like a Transformer would require disassembly and reassembly to better seal the edges of the screen.
The best solution any of us will be able to get will be to RMA our units and hope the replacements are a little better built. Personally, the bleed doesn't bother me much at all, so I'm not going to bother.
Could ASUS not ad a this metal support border to the screen, to counteract some of the flexibility in the chassis? EK follows the same principal with their waterblocks (allbeit for different reasons)
Maybe ASUS could fix it by adding some felt around the glass before assembling it, let it act as a washer.
how about some ducktape ... that fixes everything.
the light bleed is def due to to much pressure on the screen
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What causes light bleed?
Kinda a dumb question.
You see, an LCD panel needs this thing called a 'backlight', that shines through the liquid crystal layer. It's filtered by the liquid crystals to produce different colors.
Well, sometimes this backlight can 'bleed' around the edges of the LCD because it's not sealed up properly.
The 'fix' for this on a device like a Transformer would require disassembly and reassembly to better seal the edges of the screen.
The best solution any of us will be able to get will be to RMA our units and hope the replacements are a little better built. Personally, the bleed doesn't bother me much at all, so I'm not going to bother.
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Really? Are you that obnoxious? You gave a pretty complex and technical answer to just a dumb question.