Guys, few days ago I installed resurrection remix which is based on cm13 that is marshmallow version. Everything was fine but after connecting through my lappy using USB, I don't know why but my lappy was unable to access to my phone and don't displayed my files.
If anyone of you know how to proceed then please notify me immediately.
Check your notification panel after connecting. Change USB connection from 'charging only' to 'File Transfer ' mode.
princeakshay27 said:
Guys, few days ago I installed resurrection remix which is based on cm13 that is marshmallow version. Everything was fine but after connecting through my lappy using USB, I don't know why but my lappy was unable to access to my phone and don't displayed my files.
If anyone of you know how to proceed then please notify me immediately.
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You have 3 way
1. Retore your backup rom, or
2. reflash the rom, or
3. Flash antoher rom..
I facing that problem soo many times. I dont know how it happen, tried to restore system rocovery of the laptop didnt work, uninstall and install the drivers didnt work too.. Soo i restore the backup of the rom before. And.. Voila my leppy detected my phone again..
Alternative way :
1. Enable UMS Media Storage Moded if your rom have or simply download UMS by GokulNC
2. Go to your recovery and plug your usb.. Your leppy should detect your phone
Hit thanks if working
shivamgupta1996 said:
Check your notification panel after connecting. Change USB connection from 'charging only' to 'File Transfer ' mode.
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Even after changing it to file transfer..lappy is only playing peep music and showing nothing
GuestStar said:
You have 3 way
1. Retore your backup rom, or
2. reflash the rom, or
3. Flash antoher rom..
I facing that problem soo many times. I dont know how it happen, tried to restore system rocovery of the laptop didnt work, uninstall and install the drivers didnt work too.. Soo i restore the backup of the rom before. And.. Voila my leppy detected my phone again..
Alternative way :
1. Enable UMS Media Storage Moded if your rom have or simply download UMS by GokulNC
2. Go to your recovery and plug your usb.. Your leppy should detect your phone
Hit thanks if working
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Restoring backup rom will take me back to lollipop in which USB drivers are working properly but I want to use resurrection remix and after flashing it. I want to restore my storage by transferring it from pc but it is not working.
princeakshay27 said:
Restoring backup rom will take me back to lollipop in which USB drivers are working properly but I want to use resurrection remix and after flashing it. I want to restore my storage by transferring it from pc but it is not working.
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Go to your Recovery mode (twrp that you used right now)
Plug your phone, now you can transferring your file
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Btw, this thread should be on Q&A Section ..
GuestStar said:
Go to your Recovery mode (twrp that you used right now)
Plug your phone, now you can transferring your file
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Btw, this thread should be on Q&A Section ..
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After opening twrp , lappy don't show my device.. I am using command prompt to open recovery.
BTW sorry I am a junior member don't know much about XDA rules.
@zelendel thread goes to Q&A section
princeakshay27 said:
After opening twrp , lappy don't show my device.. I am using command prompt ctto open recovery.
BTW sorry I am a junior member don't know much about XDA rules.
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What twrp version?
For me.. When on recovery mode (twrp 2.8.7.1 and twrp 3.0.0) my lepy/pc detected my phone..
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If still not detected, maybe the problem from your pc.. Try search on google. There so many trick how to fix that..
But, before that you must check on another pc/leppy it is detected or not..
One more, try to change the usb cable..
Related
I flashed paranoid custom rom 2.53..but realize wifi didnt work hence i went to clear and reflash 2.50 everything works fine except usb debugging.
Whenever i try usb debugging to my laptop, i see a yellow caution under drivers... and then i tried uninstalling and reconnecting and re enabling the USB debugging under development in my tab 7.7
Could it be i didnt tick usb Debugging mode when flashing the rom??
ANy suggestions?
Side Note: Widgets like google-my library also not working. It shows a grey big icon thats all..
LFTI said:
I flashed paranoid custom rom 2.53..but realize wifi didnt work hence i went to clear and reflash 2.50 everything works fine except usb debugging.
Whenever i try usb debugging to my laptop, i see a yellow caution under drivers... and then i tried uninstalling and reconnecting and re enabling the USB debugging under development in my tab 7.7
Could it be i didnt tick usb Debugging mode when flashing the rom??
ANy suggestions?
Side Note: Widgets like google-my library also not working. It shows a grey big icon thats all..
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for usb look at this topic and use this driver.
usb debugging was required for kies also.
bassem.mohsen said:
for usb look at this topic and use this driver.
usb debugging was required for kies also.
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Which post which topic which driver???
I have kies could use it but now kies doesn't detect anythingr
LFTI said:
Which post which topic which driver???
I have kies could use it but now kies doesn't detect anythingr
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LooL, can't believe i forgot to put the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070243
bassem.mohsen said:
LooL, can't believe i forgot to put the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070243
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Hmm not working.. wonder what could be wrong...
LFTI said:
Hmm not working.. wonder what could be wrong...
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uninstall everything.
and you have to follow the instruction.
. Uninstall any previous instance of Kies/USB driver
2. Download the latest Kies, specific to your S3.
3. Download Samsung USB drivers 1.4.6.0 (I've tried newer versions but they all failed)
4. REBOOT
5. Disconnect from internet (VERY IMPORTANT!!! - forcing Windows to install local drivers ONLY)
6. With the phone disconnected, install Kies + USB drivers downloaded in steps 2,3
7. Connect the phone and let Windows install the drivers.
8. Reestablish the internet connection.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ay0aroxd2wdrezc/KiesSetup.exe
https://www.dropbox.com/s/psldnrg39pk6qa0/Samsung_USB_Driver_for_Moblie_Phones_v1_4_6_0.exe
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this worked for me on cyanogenMod.
it was giving me hw id is messing. and this solved it.
ur
Didn't work.. wonder if reflashing will work
LFTI said:
Didn't work.. wonder if reflashing will work
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can you access the data on the tablet and sd card from the computer?
try cm 10 or 10.1 both are cool
bassem.mohsen said:
can you access the data on the tablet and sd card from the computer?
try cm 10 or 10.1 both are cool
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I can access data on the tablet sd too but I cant detect anything on the computer even the sd card nothing is shown... weird..
hmm so the only way i see to get back the USB working is go back to Stock rom?? erm I tried connecting to ODIN nothing is detected.
How to i get back to stock using the nandroid backup i made earlier... anyone?
LFTI said:
hmm so the only way i see to get back the USB working is go back to Stock rom?? erm I tried connecting to ODIN nothing is detected.
How to i get back to stock using the nandroid backup i made earlier... anyone?
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setup latest kies with latest drivers.
go to download mode, download is not related to enabling usb dubugging from settings (it should be detected in odin normally)
first wipe the data and factory reset in twrp, or cwm first to avoid super brick bug.
flash the downloaded rom as the tutorial steps normally.
Hello, this is my first post in XDA and i would like to thank everyone for making all these resources and information available online.
Ok here is the story:
I was trying install SlimBean 4.2.2 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2185107 on my SGH-T679. I had TWRP on the phone. The problem came with the gapps( well not sure the download link is not working) i could not find the gapps for the rom. Every time i flash, after rebooting some of the apps were not working correctly..eg it keep saying calender storage is not responding. So the phone was sluggish and kept freezing.
I tried re-flashing with the latest gapps 4.4.2 on the SlimBean official website but it was not working correctly either cause the rom was version 4.2.2 and UNOFFiCIAL.
So i decided i tried the previous gapps in this thread to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029362 and reflash it. now After rebooting and the phone start up, it got stuck in " unfortunately the process com.google.prosess.gapps has stopped'..then i press ok...it gives unfortunately setup wizard has stopped and keeps saying that forever
i thought it was no big deal:silly: i just reflash it again but now i cannot go in recovery mode anymore. Everytime i reboot the phone and press V+ it does nothing... it just continue...show the SlimBean logo and get stuck in the setup wizard thing. I even connected the phone my computer , i cant access the exter sd card folder either..
The only thing that is still working is the download mode .. when i reboot the phone and press v- it does go to download mode.
So guys what course of actions should i take to resolve this issue? I cant fasboot to reinstall the recovery cause my computer (windows 8.1) cannot correctly detect my phone when it is not working. do i need to download odin?
I would appreciate any help
Marcatus said:
Hello, this is my first post in XDA and i would like to thank everyone for making all these resources and information available online.
Ok here is the story:
I was trying install SlimBean 4.2.2 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2185107 on my SGH-T679. I had TWRP on the phone. The problem came with the gapps( well not sure the download link is not working) i could not find the gapps for the rom. Every time i flash, after rebooting some of the apps were not working correctly..eg it keep saying calender storage is not responding. So the phone was sluggish and kept freezing.
I tried re-flashing with the latest gapps 4.4.2 on the SlimBean official website but it was not working correctly either cause the rom was version 4.2.2 and UNOFFiCIAL.
So i decided i tried the previous gapps in this thread to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029362 and reflash it. now After rebooting and the phone start up, it got stuck in " unfortunately the process com.google.prosess.gapps has stopped'..then i press ok...it gives unfortunately setup wizard has stopped and keeps saying that forever
i thought it was no big deal:silly: i just reflash it again but now i cannot go in recovery mode anymore. Everytime i reboot the phone and press V+ it does nothing... it just continue...show the SlimBean logo and get stuck in the setup wizard thing. I even connected the phone my computer , i cant access the exter sd card folder either..
The only thing that is still working is the download mode .. when i reboot the phone and press v- it does go to download mode.
So guys what course of actions should i take to resolve this issue? I cant fasboot to reinstall the recovery cause my computer (windows 8.1) cannot correctly detect my phone when it is not working. do i need to download odin?
I would appreciate any help
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Odin is the way
LS.xD said:
Odin is the way
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ok ...but how do i proceed with this?
last time i downloaded Odin it was not working ...it could not detect my phone so i could not do anything.
is there some drivers i need to download in addition,,,i did tried Kies but its useless for my phone
I gonna try to follow these directions again http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...08-2013-odin-3-09-odin-1-85-versions-t2189539
Marcatus said:
ok ...but how do i proceed with this?
last time i downloaded Odin it was not working ...it could not detect my phone so i could not do anything.
is there some drivers i need to download in addition,,,i did tried Kies but its useless for my phone
I gonna try to follow these directions again http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...08-2013-odin-3-09-odin-1-85-versions-t2189539
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Uninstall KIES ! Keep the drivers
LS.xD said:
Uninstall KIES ! Keep the drivers
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It still can't detect my phone in download mode despite i installed the drivers...i probably need to have windows 7
Aslo can i install TWRP latest version 2.7.0.0 on my phone sgh t679? I previously had 2.5.0.0
And how do i get the 'tar' file?
What's your windows versionnow?
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Get the firmware from Samsung-Updates.com
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LS.xD said:
What's your windows versionnow?
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Get the firmware from Samsung-Updates.com
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i have windows 8.1 now
Alright i'm download the drivers in Samsung-Updates and see it can work
What about the tar file: i need tar file for cwm or twrp
Marcatus said:
i have windows 8.1 now
Alright i'm download the drivers in Samsung-Updates and see it can work
What about the tar file: i need tar file for cwm or twrp
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Samsung-Updates.com provides the full firmware as tar file flashable via odin.
Alright, i downloaded a 335mb zip file on samsung update for my phone
It has the MD5 file and a SS_DL.dll
is the dl the driver.. do i install it manually?
LS.xD said:
Samsung-Updates.com provides the full firmware as tar file flashable via odin.
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So...i have the md5 file to flash but my laptop still cant recognize my phone
I tried to manually install the dll file by putting in it in the System32 folder and doing regsvr32.exe your_dll.dll in command promt but it only gives me an error.
I guess my only hope is to install windows 7 and it work...
anyone have have some suggestion
I would appreciate the help
Marcatus said:
So...i have the md5 file to flash but my laptop still cant recognize my phone
I tried to manually install the dll file by putting in it in the System32 folder and doing regsvr32.exe your_dll.dll in command promt but it only gives me an error.
I guess my only hope is to install windows 7 and it work...
anyone have have some suggestion
I would appreciate the help
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Did you use THIS this drivers?
LS.xD said:
Did you use THIS this drivers?
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Yeah I tried this driver before.. after reboot and I plug my phone
it says usb connected then a window pop up saying installing driver for this device,,,,and stay stuck there forever. No matter how much time I wait for it to install the goddam driver it never completes it.
So yeah...as for the abd interface driver , I downloaded it. do I need to do something specific with it? I already have the adt bundle on the laptop
Marcatus said:
Yeah I tried this driver before.. after reboot and I plug my phone
it says usb connected then a window pop up saying installing driver for this device,,,,and stay stuck there forever. No matter how much time I wait for it to install the goddam driver it never completes it.
So yeah...as for the abd interface driver , I downloaded it. do I need to do something specific with it? I already have the adt bundle on the laptop
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Go to device manager and installing the driver manually instead of automatic should solve your issue
So My Friend Cellphone's "LENOVO A369i" has been Bricked .. I tried to fix it connect it for the first time, uploaded the firmware and IT FIXES :good: :fingers-crossed: but after installing CWM it still okay. After I install a Flash ROM when I Start It again It cannot start but I can go to CWM recovery :crying: I NEED TO FIX it
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Flash stock firmware back on.
I'm not home or I would search for links sorry.
In Google type your phone name + return to stock.
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The Thing is i cant connect the device to the computer when I plug it in .. it ready in a second again .. it none until it's like that over and over again .. tried to reinstall the drivers but no use!!
PauloAgojo277 said:
The Thing is i cant connect the device to the computer when I plug it in .. it ready in a second again .. it none until it's like that over and over again .. tried to reinstall the drivers but no use!!
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To put the stock rom back on lenovo device, it must be powered off. (if it has a removable battery it must be removed).
preinstal the drivers into pc/laptop.
open device manager
plug in lenovo.
if device manager says 'mediatek,,,,' you are a winner & can use the sp flash tool included in the zipped rom to instal the rom.
if device manager says 'unknown device' you have 2 seconds to click on it & select update driver and a point to the downloaded lenovo driver (then it will be as above).
When you get green circle you are complete and may disconnect and put battery back in.
PauloAgojo277 said:
So My Friend Cellphone's "LENOVO A369i" has been Bricked .. I tried to fix it connect it for the first time, uploaded the firmware and IT FIXES :good: :fingers-crossed: but after installing CWM it still okay. After I install a Flash ROM when I Start It again It cannot start but I can go to CWM recovery :crying: I NEED TO FIX it
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50094020
Here's a step by step guide ..please be aware of the steps .. That help me from bricking my phone almost so many times
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If you are using windows 8 then you can't install USB drives
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PauloAgojo277 said:
So My Friend Cellphone's "LENOVO A369i" has been Bricked .. I tried to fix it connect it for the first time, uploaded the firmware and IT FIXES :good: :fingers-crossed: but after installing CWM it still okay. After I install a Flash ROM when I Start It again It cannot start but I can go to CWM recovery :crying: I NEED TO FIX it
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So if you are using windows 8 or higher version of windows then simply you have to degrade it to windows 7 or lower to install USB driver's
Hi guys .
i flashed "by mistake " the wrong cwm recovery by ( Rsher ) . after the device is restarted the screen just stopped on welcome screen .
now i have no access to recovery mode .
so i tried the other choice which was the download mode .
and here is my problem my pc doesnt recognize my android phone , when i connect the phone the pc displays these words
"usb is not recognized . the last device you connected to computer malfunctioned and windows does not recognized it "
also odin does not recognize it .
now i have no access neither to recovery mod nor to download mode and the device still freezing on welcome screen . so my device practically is DEAD!!
PLEASE IF YOU WANT TO HELP ME :
**KEEP IN MIND THE DEVICE " BEFORE THIS " WAS RECOGNIZED WHEN IT IS TURNED ON
** KEEP IN MIND OTHER PHONES LIKE GALAXY DOUS OR GALAXY BEAM IS WORKING ON THE SAME PC AND RECOGNIZED ON ODIN
** my phone is galaxy s II Plus working on android 4.2.2
**my pc is HP working on windows 10
**i have the latest Samsung kies and the latest drivers
** what i have tried
*update the driver on my pc
*uninstall and reinstall the driver
*using different usb cables
*uninstall the drivers and restarting pc
*updating other generic usb hub
*changing values in the registry
*I have tried all versions of odin
*pull the battery and entering download mode several times
PLEAAAAAAASE HELP :crying::crying::crying:
Try installing the google USB drivers.They are normally installed with the android SDK. Maybe they can help you detect the phone or you can try to manually update the driver.
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Cruzy12100 said:
Try installing the google USB drivers.They are normally installed with the android SDK. Maybe they can help you detect the phone or you can try to manually update the driver.
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thanks for replay but nothing happened still the same problem
abdanoo said:
thanks for replay but nothing happened still the same problem
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Because in most cases this would have fixed the problem.Try some other forum maybe to get a different set of answers.
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Cruzy12100 said:
Because in most cases this would have fixed the problem.Try some other forum maybe to get a different set of answers.
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Or could also try to repeat the same steps in a different system.
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Cruzy12100 said:
Because in most cases this would have fixed the problem.Try some other forum maybe to get a different set of answers.
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Or could also try to repeat the same steps in a different system.
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as i mentioned above sir , the phone is recognized when it is ON but the problem occurs when i go to download mode . i think it is not concerned with the drivers
Have a look at this soft-brick help guide. If your phone is not even able to enter the Recovery Mode, you may have a case of NAND rw corruption and recovery may not even be possible (you may have to look at hard unbrick scenarios).
Having said that, these are a few things I might have still tried if I were you:
1. If you have access to a Linux PC or a bootable Ubuntu drive, start it and see whether it recognizes your phone using the lsusb command. It will help you to rule out any driver issues.
2. Try to drain the battery (by keeping a long time in that welcome screen) and then do a fresh recharge and then try again.
prahladyeri said:
Have a look at this soft-brick help guide. If your phone is not even able to enter the Recovery Mode, you may have a case of NAND rw corruption and recovery may not even be possible (you may have to look at hard unbrick scenarios).
Having said that, these are a few things I might have still tried if I were you:
1. If you have access to a Linux PC or a bootable Ubuntu drive, start it and see whether it recognizes your phone using the lsusb command. It will help you to rule out any driver issues.
2. Try to drain the battery (by keeping a long time in that welcome screen) and then do a fresh recharge and then try again.
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Well. , I have to say this is new solution . thank you brother I'll try and give you feedback ??
Hi everyone, I am a new person in the forums, so please understand if I'm not good at some stuff and if I'm posting this in the wrong place
Well, story is that I found my old Galaxy Tab 2 in my basement after 3 years, and I got it to turn on (no factory cable, 1€ chinese cable). Android version is 4.0.3.
Found a couple of roms in the forums for 6.0, and yes, I've done it before on my phones.
Computer cannot recognize the tab, only says "Unrecognized device", even though I've tried every driver there is to it. Tried kies, no help. Tried odin, no help.
Neither of those detect the tab either, so I rooted it from the tab itself with KingRoot.
Now the tab is rooted, and I tried to flash TWRP to install 6.0.
It says that the recovery is flashed, but when I try to reboot to recovery, it only restarts, with nothing.
It goes into download mode just perfectly, but when connected to the pc, it still doesn't detect it.
I do not have money to buy a new tablet, so I would really like some advice.
Thanks!
hello
go in download mod ( power & vol+ )
go back to origin
use cfautoroot (all needed in it odin + drivers + cfautoroot)
use a new cable
after that install twrp, os ( first cm12.1 )
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Hi, will try!
Don't set auto reboot in Odin.
Once TWRP is flashed wait 1 minute and unplug the tab.
Now directly boot into TWRP, else stock recovery get restored on boot.
You should update over OTA to 4.1 or 4.2 if available first, else you'll have to flash a newer bootloader using Odin to avoid graphics glitches at boot.
Android-Andi said:
Don't set auto reboot in Odin.
Once TWRP is flashed wait 1 minute and unplug the tab.
Now directly boot into TWRP, else stock recovery get restored on boot.
You should update over OTA to 4.1 or 4.2 if available first, else you'll have to flash a newer bootloader using Odin to avoid graphics glitches at boot.
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Hi, thanks! Got it working!
It was a very good idea to ask xda for help
Can you tell me how you did it? Where to get origin? I have the same problem - please help.
dionex2k said:
Can you tell me how you did it? Where to get origin? I have the same problem - please help.
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Read above, lol, he quoted it too
I did.... my computer does not even recognize my tab - I tried 3 different cables and 2 different computers.
Use the driver from here http://developer.samsung.com/galaxy/others/android-usb-driver-for-windows
Android-Andi said:
Use the driver from here http://developer.samsung.com/galaxy/others/android-usb-driver-for-windows
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I installed the drivers from the link you provided - my laptop still does not recognize my tablet... any other suggestions?
dionex2k said:
I installed the drivers from the link you provided - my laptop still does not recognize my tablet... any other suggestions?
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Tired a different cable? Different usb port?
dionex2k said:
I installed the drivers from the link you provided - my laptop still does not recognize my tablet... any other suggestions?
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I have heard about a tool called "Forget Windows Use Linux (FWUL)" but I have not tried it. Maybe give it a shot
hello
cfautoroute gives odin, drivers, ...
regards
dionex2k said:
I installed the drivers from the link you provided - my laptop still does not recognize my tablet... any other suggestions?
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Is your cable a data cable or just a charging cable?
UnavailableSurm said:
Is your cable a data cable or just a charging cable?
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Yes I tried 3 cables they are for data and charging
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validatus said:
hello
cfautoroute gives odin, drivers, ...
regards
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I tried that - did not work.
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Can someone try and help me via teamviewer? It would make me happy because I really want to use this damn tablet again.