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The camera problems on the Xperia L are obvious. Do you have any solutions? If you have any work arounds please post them. Also post any bugs you have noticed and the build number or custom roms used. Here are things I've noticed.
Third party apps like Camera MX works better than the Sony camera app. How is that possible?
Problems
Flash does not expose properly in extreme low light (like a poorly lit livingroom)
Anything over 3 feet is horribly out of focus.
Shutter speed to slow to catch any moving subject.
Horrible noise in anything less than bright sunlight.
Possible reasons
Many phones have a macro setting (This enables the focus to limit the focus distance and speed up focus for close and distant objects)
No continous auto focus (that may be the reason moving subjects are never in focus)
Shutter speed too slow (another reason subjects are often out of focus)
Image size in relation to sensor. (the sensor could be too small or placed where heat is a problem) I'm sure users would rather have a smaller image that is clean over a large image that is noisy.
A setting to allow release of shutter even if no focus lock.
I bought this phone over others is because Sony claimed almost no shutter lag and good images in low light. The phone does neither. I love everything else abou this phone. It's light, packed with excellent features and the audio and the phone's reception are excellent. Why Sony is marketing this as a good camera phone is beyond me.
Xperia L stock build 15.0.A.2.17
I am also experiencing such problems. When my phone was on the old firmware, exposure are always accurate and autofocus functions well. Images are crisp and sharp but after going to 15.0.A.2.17 it seems quality became crappy compare to 15.0.A.1.36
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I'ts a smartphone with camera, not a camera with phone features. give it a break, its good enough for social sharing and common use, you know taking family spontaneous pictures or shooting on the go, it wouldn't be wise if try to make my professional shoots with this one instead of my dslr.
do you think guys that sony can fix the shutter delay/lag and image noise via software update?
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Mbside said:
I'ts a smartphone with camera, not a camera with phone features. give it a break, its good enough for social sharing and common use, you know taking family spontaneous pictures or shooting on the go, it wouldn't be wise if try to make my professional shoots with this one instead of my dslr.
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I don't expect to perform like my DSLR but I do expect it to take a better photo than my 4 yo Sony Xperia X10a. Especially when Sony has sold it as the phone that takes quality photos. I know there is always some hype, it's called marketing. But the phone's photos are horrible. They look worse than a cheapo Chinese knockoff phone.
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i also bought this phone because sony said this is camera phone. -_- (good for low light) and can capture that famous hourse running on the beach
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After seeing this thread, I cant help but to post. Will you guys give our phone a break? If you want to get good pictures, buy a bloody DSLR, not just complain about the bad photos. Or even better create your own firmware.
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Sony can fix all this camera **** in only 1 update..but they just ignore us for some reason...
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allenwalker1998 said:
After seeing this thread, I cant help but to post. Will you guys give our phone a break? If you want to get good pictures, buy a bloody DSLR, not just complain about the bad photos. Or even better create your own firmware.
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Didnt you see the bloody Xperia l camera trailer on YouTube?? Thats why we bought the Xperia L and we will never give it a break until everything is fixed
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Actually the older firmware has better shots. The problem is they adjusted the sharpness
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Sparksys said:
Sony can fix all this camera **** in only 1 update..but they just ignore us for some reason...
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Didnt you see the bloody Xperia l camera trailer on YouTube?? Thats why we bought the Xperia L and we will never give it a break until everything is fixed
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Yes I saw it. But the trailer can be edited or filmed on an DSLR you may nit even know it. This my friend it is called 'marketing'. And I will say it once again. Try fixing it yourself. Stop complaining.
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Chill out please, as you can see SONY are way too slow solving their problem, not just L but also in another devices..
about the camera things? yes..it was a major features that's SONY's proudly shout out to their customers so lets hope there will be major updates that focusing to this matter.
mertmag said:
The camera problems on the Xperia L are obvious. Do you have any solutions? If you have any work arounds please post them. Also post any bugs you have noticed and the build number or custom roms used. Here are things I've noticed.
Third party apps like Camera MX works better than the Sony camera app. How is that possible?
Problems
Flash does not expose properly in extreme low light (like a poorly lit livingroom)
Anything over 3 feet is horribly out of focus.
Shutter speed to slow to catch any moving subject.
Horrible noise in anything less than bright sunlight.
Possible reasons
Many phones have a macro setting (This enables the focus to limit the focus distance and speed up focus for close and distant objects)
No continous auto focus (that may be the reason moving subjects are never in focus)
Shutter speed too slow (another reason subjects are often out of focus)
Image size in relation to sensor. (the sensor could be too small or placed where heat is a problem) I'm sure users would rather have a smaller image that is clean over a large image that is noisy.
A setting to allow release of shutter even if no focus lock.
I bought this phone over others is because Sony claimed almost no shutter lag and good images in low light. The phone does neither. I love everything else abou this phone. It's light, packed with excellent features and the audio and the phone's reception are excellent. Why Sony is marketing this as a good camera phone is beyond me.
Xperia L stock build 15.0.A.2.17
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Even I Got Those Problems Bro
My Front Camera Stopped Working,Camera Took Horrible Pics n blah blah stuff..But What I Did Was Easy..
Try This One Bro,
repair your phone with SUS
Sony Update Service (SUS)
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/tools/update-service/
http://www-support-downloads.sonymob...-2.11.12.5.exe
Dont Forget To Hit Thanks BTW..
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GizmOstic1177 said:
Even I Got Those Problems Bro
My Front Camera Stopped Working,Camera Took Horrible Pics n blah blah stuff..But What I Did Was Easy..
Try This One Bro,
repair your phone with SUS
Sony Update Service (SUS)
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/tools/update-service/
http://www-support-downloads.sonymob...-2.11.12.5.exe
Dont Forget To Hit Thanks BTW..
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It did help a little. Not great but better than it was focus and flash wise)
(Doing a repair-reflash)
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allenwalker1998 said:
Yes I saw it. But the trailer can be edited or filmed on an DSLR you may nit even know it. This my friend it is called 'marketing'. And I will say it once again. Try fixing it yourself. Stop complaining.
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I paid for it, I'll complain if I want. I didn't get a used phone on ebay. I bought it new and Sony needs to support it's products and be honest in it's advertisement. Marketing is one thing, being deseptive is another. If they want to allow it to be unlocked without voiding the warranty I would flash a different rom. BTW if the camera was even better than average I would give it 5 stars. Great sound, very fast, very good battery life, decient screen, packed with features noise canceling mic, dedicated shutter release, fm radio ETC.
mertmag said:
It did help a little. Not great but better than it was focus and flash wise)
(Doing a repair-reflash)
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Bro another thing that I can recommend you is to flash the official stock ftf on your phone.. Via flashtool.. It will work most probably..
Download the flashtool first and then flash this ftf on your phone.Here is the thread-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340948
And mate dont forgive to hit thanks if I helped you..
Dont worry.. Your phone will be alright..
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mertmag said:
I paid for it, I'll complain if I want. I didn't get a used phone on ebay. I bought it new and Sony needs to support it's products and be honest in it's advertisement. Marketing is one thing, being deseptive is another. If they want to allow it to be unlocked without voiding the warranty I would flash a different rom. BTW if the camera was even better than average I would give it 5 stars. Great sound, very fast, very good battery life, decient screen, packed with features noise canceling mic, dedicated shutter release, fm radio ETC.
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Yes you can complain. Not here complain to Sony not XDA.
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allenwalker1998 said:
Yes you can complain. Not here complain to Sony not XDA.
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allenwalker1998 said:
Yes you can complain. Not here complain to Sony not XDA.
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I pointed out problems and yes I did contact Sony no reply as of a week ago. If I had said nothing I wouldn't have received the help of other users. I thought people who are considering the phone would like to know about it's problems.
Hi.I wanna flash cm 12 to z3.But i have worries.Do sony apps work on cm12?And as u know, we haven't Drm keys on cm12.What about camera's quality?Thank u guys.
LeonidasTurk said:
Hi.I wanna flash cm 12 to z3.But i have worries.Do sony apps work on cm12?And as u know, we haven't Drm keys on cm12.What about camera's quality?Thank u guys.
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Search and see other posts before asking same questions as many before you.
ondrejvaroscak said:
Search and see other posts before asking same questions as many before you.
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Can you give me a link for similar posts?I can't find my question.
No, they don't work, for now
I suggest you to wait some time, maybe they will add them when there will be a stable version.
CM12 / DRM
My opinion:
- CM12 is too fresh and still partially buggy. You can play with that, but thats IMHO all. Not considered production.
- Unless somebody makes serious effort, forget about official Sony apps. Some are bound to DRM lost in process of unlocking bootloader.
- Camera will work as good as good is the hardware of it. Picture enhancement provided by software is Sony Stock ROM specific and bound to DRM. I have seen some guys working on DRM removal.
- There may be other apps with postprocessing to compensate for Sony postprocessing (low light etc.).
ondrejvaroscak said:
My opinion:
- CM12 is too fresh and still partially buggy. You can play with that, but thats IMHO all. Not considered production.
- Unless somebody makes serious effort, forget about official Sony apps. Some are bound to DRM lost in process of unlocking bootloader.
- Camera will work as good as good is the hardware of it. Picture enhancement provided by software is Sony Stock ROM specific and bound to DRM. I have seen some guys working on DRM removal.
- There may be other apps with postprocessing to compensate for Sony postprocessing (low light etc.).
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I will wait for "Serious effort".Is there any thread about this?
LeonidasTurk said:
I will wait for "Serious effort".Is there any thread about this?
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Not really as it is way to early. Seems everybody concentrates on L.
What's "L"?
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gnormal said:
What's "L"?
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Lollipop
CM12 is L ...
Don't count on them being able to restore lost drm function. I already jumped ship on sony. The unlock was worth it to me since I came from a nexus. Only issue I really have so far is a battery issue I think might pertain to only a few "testers". Also, camera was never great to me... I went n5 > iPhone 6 (just two weeks) > z3. If anything I'll pick up the iPhone 6 again and use it as a weekend phone if I really start kicking myself over the camera.
Hi everyone. I finally decided to buy a new phone after ages (I have Xperia V )
My definite choice was Nexus 6P, but now I'm also looking into Z5.
I don't care about price.
My only question is Does unlocking bootloader on Z5 affect camera quality?
According to Sony's Official Bootloader Unlock Website :
for instance Xperia Z3, the removal of DRM security keys may affect advanced camera functionality. For example, noise reduction algorithms might be removed, and performance when taking photos in low-light conditions might be affected. The secure user data partition may also become inaccessible
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If yes, I'll stick with 6P
Yes. Stick with the nexus if you want custom rom and lots of development
Ben36 said:
Yes. Stick with the nexus if you want custom rom and lots of development
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Damn Sony!
I can live my life with stock roms, but not without unlocked bootloader and root
To be fair, coming from a Nexus 5, it's not actually bothered me not having root
Ben36 said:
To be fair, coming from a Nexus 5, it's not actually bothered me not having root
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i want root just for adaway
gwiqu said:
i want root just for adaway
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Have you tried Adguard? No root needed.
Well that time has come to move forward and I've upgraded to a new Xperia xa I was gonna keep the m2 but the xa is that good I don't see the need so it's gone. Had the xa since last week and you certainly shouldn't believe everything bad you read about these devices, the xa makes the m2 look like a Xperia E1 I I'll be around in the xa+Sony cross device forums and on g+ thanks for all the help+work with the m2 guys and maybe I'll see you in the xa group.
aidy.lucas said:
Well that time has come to move forward and I've upgraded to a new Xperia xa I was gonna keep the m2 but the xa is that good I don't see the need so it's gone. Had the xa since last week and you certainly shouldn't believe everything bad you read about these devices, the xa makes the m2 look like a Xperia E1 I I'll be around in the xa+Sony cross device forums and on g+ thanks for all the help+work with the m2 guys and maybe I'll see you in the xa group.
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How is it? The XA I mean. I see in some videos the navigation bar buttons don't seem to change applying some themes. As it happened in the previous Xperia with Mediatek SoC (M5/C4/C5). I ask because I wanted to get one myself, the price seems just right, and I really don't care if it looks like plastic as they say, we all put covers anyway.. But if it has issues with the themes I must pass.
Regarding the difference in performances.. Sure! You're comparing a 2014 phone with a 2016 one. Twice the cores, twice the CPU bits and, most important, twice the RAM.
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How is it? The XA I mean. I see in some videos the navigation bar buttons don't seem to change applying some themes. As it happened in the previous Xperia with Mediatek SoC (M5/C4/C5). I ask because I wanted to get one myself, the price seems just right, and I really don't care if it looks like plastic as they say, we all put covers anyway.. But if it has issues with the themes I must pass.
Regarding the difference in performances.. Sure! You're comparing a 2014 phone with a 2016 one. Twice the cores, twice the CPU bits and, most important, twice the RAM.
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I have no regrets at all, currently still stock with only aggressive doze and doze on the go via adb with greenify I've done(yes it'll work without root) haven't used stamina mode once since getting it either(it's stamina mode in name only now anyway just Android battery saver renamed). Currently only way to get root on mm though is to unlock the Bootloader(so don't buy a carrier locked one) and there's currently no way to back up ta keys until someone finds a way to back them up which is why I'm reluctant to rush to unlock it . Root is available if you ain't bothered about not backing up ta it does effect the camera on the xa and be2 and sv drm fix is confirmed working. Themes it seems to depend some change the nav bar buttons some don't. It's no more plasticy than the m2 though the back is a matt finish rather than shiny plastic. You certainly shouldn't believe everything bad you read about them. Volume is well loud compared to the m2 too Getting around 4-5hrs screen time depending on what I'm doing and mm is silky smooth with no lag at all. I'm not really a gamer on phones but been assured it'll run most games with ease It's also by far the better looking of the x range. Oh and did I mention the stunning edge to edge display.
I have only one minor gripe and that's that facebook is a bloody system app. Below is a couple of camera shots superior auto mode 9mp 16.9
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@aidy.lucas Well, impressive pictures indeed! Did you use the flash for the head? Too bad about root. I need that to remove that ads spamfest. And the backup as well. Obviously you can't backup the TA without root, it shouls be readable by root only,. It's a loophole.
About the navigation bar icons.. When they don't change it's because the themes simply do not modify them or it's a bug? I mean, does it ever happen that in the screenshots of the themes the navbar icons are different but then when you apply the themes you still get the stock icons? Otherwise, could you please do a quick test with this one (it's free)? The central button should be a circle. Thanks.
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@aidy.lucas Well, impressive pictures indeed! Did you use the flash for the head? Too bad about root. I need that to remove that ads spamfest. And the backup as well. Obviously you can't backup the TA without root, it shouls be readable by root only,. It's a loophole.
About the navigation bar icons.. When they don't change it's because the themes simply do not modify them or it's a bug? I mean, does it ever happen that in the screenshots of the themes the navbar icons are different but then when you apply the themes you still get the stock icons? Otherwise, could you please do a quick test with this one (it's free)? The central button should be a circle. Thanks.
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Nope doesn't change the nav bar buttons yet this one does http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...peria-stock-x7-stock-sony-style-t3434562/page no idea why
I was hoping that ivy root temp root would work so I could back up ta keys before unlocking like the z5 range. But no it requires a LP kernel before dec15 so won't work as x range doesn't have LP, we need a new exploit if there even is one, kingroot doesn't work either not that I'd use it if it did I don't think. The other back up ta keys programme you mentioned needs full root access to back them up not possible on the x range on mm without unlocking and wiping the keys. Yes there's a drm workaround confirmed working but it's no good if I need my warranty suddenly or want to go back to stock.
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aidy.lucas said:
Nope doesn't change the nav bar buttons yet this one does http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...peria-stock-x7-stock-sony-style-t3434562/page no idea why
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This is ridiculous. That theme is developed with Theme Creator, what the heck is Sony doing, they don't even test their own SW in their phones. I'll see if I manage to decompile the theme you posted and see what's different, thanks.
Is there any info,do we get new camera in Nougat,like a XZ and XP with full manual controls?
while it is mentioned in the latest video posted by sony xperia team, i don't really think it is going to be included for z5 (although our devices are equipped with the same sensor). At least, there's no announcement or indication that it is going to be included.
Jeffrey04 said:
while it is mentioned in the latest video posted by sony xperia team, i don't really think it is going to be included for z5 (although our devices are equipped with the same sensor). At least, there's no announcement or indication that it is going to be included.
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I saw that video and anouncement on Sony global and I am afraid that you in right.We can only hope so that wouldnt be like this cause same camera sensor,but I thinks that chances is minimal.
Why we get a bunch of threads like this -__-
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Why would you think it is not going to be included? Based on what?
We don't know. Chances are no one will know. But so far other devices that got the update also got these features. There are no reason to think they're not going to be included.
furkandeger said:
Why would you think it is not going to be included? Based on what?
We don't know. Chances are no one will know. But so far other devices that got the update also got these features. There are no reason to think they're not going to be included.
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Here - manual camera controls specifically for X performance:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/12...t-rollout-for-xperia-xz-xperia-x-performance/
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Here - manual camera controls specifically for X performance:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/12...t-rollout-for-xperia-xz-xperia-x-performance/
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What about this?
Xperia X also get manual controls in Beta Nougat.Only for Z5 is unknown situation,but I think that we dont get that in update.
Allek84 said:
Xperia X also get manual controls in Beta Nougat.Only for Z5 is unknown situation,but I think that we dont get that in update.
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I think we will get this feature, because since the Z5 came out we wanted this also z5 has the same sensor as X and XZ
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no we wont sony hates us (z5)
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no we wont sony hates us (z5)
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To encourage us to move onto the next product.
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They must to prolong X series shipment.For that reason I am afraid we wont get that.Even if we dont get that its not a huge de except for low light/night photos.These option that we have now is enough for good daylight photography(exposure,ISO,focus mode,WB)
as much as i want it, yea, it is not provided in the nougat update
Already got the manual controls on the z5 https://youtu.be/UQjl-qamO9g no need to get them from sony lol