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I read about that new A2DP functionality for music so I got some interesting idea about turning my TC to a car mp3 player. My TC has 8gb so it's cool to have such amount of music in car without need to change discs or something.
There are new car cd players that support bluetooth, my question is how all this stuff works together ? Has anyone tried ? Is it comfortable at it's current state ? I mean will it connect automatically and will the cd player controls work to browse the music stored on TC or will I need to use the TC to navigate songs(less comfort while driving)... What about sound quality, is A2DP provides good sound ? What should I expect from such a setup ?
I would answer half of the question myself only If I would already have the bluetooth supported cd player, but my one doesn't support it :-( so I am thinking about a replacement and will it be worth or not.
I use my Tytyn2 for this purpose with a pioneer B65 Head unit. The quality is good enough for a car considering the background noise and far superior to using a FM transmitter. You will have to use the TC to control the tracks and the display on the head unit does not show track info.
Doesn't seems to be comfortable solution then... There is no interface that will allow head unit to control it ? :-((... Anyone else tried this ?
I use a Jabra BT320S to hear music in car using the line in of my head unit. Sound is good and obviously i have the TC to control the music. SOme programs have very finger friendly buttons. I'm very happy
This is the solution you are looking for.
Get a headunit with a USB port, such as this Kenwood. http://www.bassjunkies.com/index.php?pid=33470&show=expand_image
Install WM5torage on the PDA, and set it up so that the PDA appears as a mass storage device.
Plug the PDA into the headunit with a USB cable.
The headunit should now see the tracks in the memory card of the PDA.
Hope this helps.
WM5torage is not (currently) compatible with the Touch Cruise.
Hello,
since i'm an owner of an saxo vts, which is equal to say been roubed evey time. i just do not have normal player, i instead add amp. connected to the normal audio pre-installation.
Then a audio cable from the PDA to the input of the amp. this also means stereo no front back sound distribution.
i also thought about the bluetooth but then, i realize that with TomTom, phone call , plus blue streaming, the device was not power enough.
Ah since then no one broke in, why because there's actually nothing there to robe.
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X-Kent. I have been using bluetooth in my car for nearly a year now and it's definately the way forward. Forget plugging it in via USB!
My HU is a JVC BT-1.
First of all the quality of your A2DP can be configured using the 'Advance config' program (found on this forum). I also use a Sony bluetooth headphone receiver and at first my Orbit 2 sounded a bit...cheap! However by cranking up the sample rate to 48000, bit pool to 58 and the max bit pool to 80, it has increased the quality from a decent FM quality to CD quality. This is just in my experience and audio purists would argue otherwise. Nonetheless this applies to my reciever and my car BT.
Next is that if you use BT in your car you would change the tracks by using the phone NOT the head unit. But I think this is FAR better and safer. I have my phone mounted next to the wheel, and not only can I see what track is playing on my phone, I have big pause and next/back track buttons to press and I can even see the album art. Far better than the crappy text display you get on a head unit (unless you have a v.expensive one!) If you did use USB then it would put the track names on the HU and allow full control, but why when you can use the lovely phone touch functions.
Finally (this is where it comes into it's own). The BT-1 has a small mic that you can locate anywhere and you can make calls in the car without touching anything. The BT-1 allows voice dialling and you can speak to people thru your car. And because it's BT then you can have the phone in your pocket. The Headunit is intelligent enough to automatically pick up the phone when it's in range and link them together. No buttons required. If a call comes in and you're listening to music, the ring comes through the speakers of the car. You can then pick up and it pauses the music. When your conversation's done, the music starts up where you left off!
If you use Sat Nav, even if you're listening to music or having a convo, the voice instructions are also routed through your speakers.
Why use anything else other than bluetooth? Hope that helps
Jon
Hi,
I searched the forum, wiki, etc., but didn't find an answer.
I have an AT&T Fuze with the stock ROM (WM 6.1). I know the Fuze is supposed to support multiple simultaneous bt connections. What I would like to do is connect A2DP to my Pioneer stereo for music playback, and also connect handsfree to my Jawbone 2 headset for phone calls while in the car.
I can successfully connect A2DP to my stereo for music by itself.
I can successfully connect HFP to my Jawbone 2 by itself.
I *have* managed to connect to both at the same time, by staying on an active phone call with my Jawbone, then telling my Fuze to connect to the car stereo. However, no music could be heard (from either Mortplayer or WMP). The phone call stayed up just fine though.
Anyone know if there's a way to get both working at the same time?
(And before you ask, I would just use the hands-free capability of my Pioneer stereo for phone calls too, but I've found my car is too noisy for anyone to hear me with the Pioneer's microphone unless I hold it right in front of my mouth, which defeats the "hands free" goal...)
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Best,
Chris
In your case I do not think that is possible since the concept of being able to juggle 2 devices at the same time requires 1 to relinquish control while the other goes active. It turns off the music so you do not get distracted while talking and reconects the music after the call is over.
It seems to be a software protocol if anything. Yes both can be connected at the same time, but both cannot be "active" as in doing both music playback and voice calls.
I have a bt headset that handles 2 profiles at once and according to the protocol, if a call comes in, it pauses my ipod and then picks up the call and then resets back to normal after the call.. Either you have to mess with the coding itself or someone has to come up with a workaround, but I do not think that is possible.
Thanks for the reply. I had hoped it might be possible for the Fuze to route stereo audio to one BT profile (A2DP), while non-stereo audio (e.g., phone call, system tones, etc.) to the HFP profile, almost as though the profiles acted as addressable "service ports" (ala HTTP, SMTP, etc.).
But, unlike with TCP/IP, I admit to knowing next to nothing about how the BT stack works and how profiles are applied to certain types of data (or, how data is routed to a given BT association based on profile).
Thanks again,
Chris
well the thing is.. the fuze can connect to multiple devices simultaneously, but based on the music and voice call order, it is prohibited from doing both at the same time. so therefore when there is no call, the music plays, but when a call comes it, the music is paused and resumed after the call is done. (obviously the call has higher priority here).
My only suggestion is to leave it as it is since it is done so that you do not get distracted while talking and probably while you're driving.
Multitasking is difficult when you're listening to 2 things, responding to 1, and driving at the same time. The more you multitask the less you are able to devote to your main activity (in your case, driving).
but yeah. if you can find someone who can mess with that and allow for both to be active at the same time, then congrats. Otherwise just think of it as a safety measure.
Except that, when I had both the headset and the stereo connected to the Fuze, the music *didn't* pause. It just didn't output (as though the volume was muted). In fact, in both Mortplayer and WMP, it appeared as though it was playing at ~2X the normal rate (just watching the track playback time counter).
I know what you're talking about re: listen to music, call comes in, music pauses, call ends, music resumes. That's the behavior I get when I use the car stereo for both handsfree and A2DP.
The behavior when connected to two different devices seemed to be different, though, so I hoped that might mean it was in fact possible.
-Chris
yeah I know what you mean, but maybe the fact that it tried to do both tripped it up and so it took the call as a higher priority and focused the data towards the call.
atleast that is what I think.
I have almost the exact same configuration, except I am using a Sony car stereo but have a jawbone. What I have to do every time I get in the car is the following.
1. Let my stereo connect to both hands free and wireless headphone services.
2. Open bluetooth settings
3. Manually connect to my Jawbone.
It works great.
ATT Fuze
Energy Rom 072209
Old jawbone
Sony XPLOD Car Stereo
I'll also add it's pretty neat to be able to push the jawbone to activate MS Voice Commander and choose what music I want to play over my car stereo.
frankrizzo said:
What I have to do every time I get in the car is the following.
1. Let my stereo connect to both hands free and wireless headphone services.
2. Open bluetooth settings
3. Manually connect to my Jawbone.
It works great.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll give that a shot. I'm not sure that my Pioneer stereo will automatically connect both handsfree and A2DP. I know it will do handsfree automatically. We'll see...
-Chris
I just got an after market radio that supports bluetooth audio streaming & voice call. (Eclipse CD5030) After several tries, I seem to have it figured out so I wanna share my finding.
1 - Audio quality is ok. Acceptable, but not great. Bass output is fine, but treble is almost gone & distorted.
2 - When trying to transfer contact list from phone to the radio, bluetooth connection dropped instantly.
3 - Voice call quality appears to be normal. (i.e. similar to when you use handset / headset) According to callers, they can hear me just fine. Caller audio is fine on my end. I mounted the microphone near the visor, to the middle of the windshield.
4 - This radio can configure caller's audio output to only driver's side or both. But output is for front speakers only.
5 - This radio doesn't pipe phone's ringtone through. So you only get basic ringtone that comes with the radio.
6 - On my first try with navigation + music player, audio skip/drop out very often. On second+ tries with phone plugged in, no problem. -- I remember reading somewhere that max CPU frequency is automatically lowered when battery is low. This seems to make sense.
7 - I don't have a car dock for N1 yet. (waiting for Google official N1 car dock). Only voice prompt was adequate.
7 - You can skip forward/backward from the radio. But there's no pause button. The only way to pause is to switch to other audio source.
8 - If you prefer better audio quality, you can plug the phone into radio's USB port and enable USB storage mode. It will play music off the phone's memory card. -- Or just plug the 3.5mm cable to the phone, but you lose ability to control what is played.
9 - When using BT audio streaming, it doesn't display song's name. Just your phone's BT name.
That's hit. Hope it's useful for people looking to use/get BT car radio with N1.
After having the phone for a while today was the first day I did this with mine as well, also an Eclipse head unit.
My findings were pretty much the exact same. I did get a kick out of playing pandora out of the car stereo though while running navigation and it all working just perfectly.
Audio could be improved but it really is pretty cool.
for those not yet purchased.
Kenwood BT8044U
Audio quality excellent, does have pause, phonebook works, and works with car steering controls (with adapter)
Took awhile but the N1 works with MS Sync in my girlfriends fusion and in my Escape with an after market JVC with the bluetooth addon.
trinode said:
for those not yet purchased.
Kenwood BT8044U
Audio quality excellent, does have pause, phonebook works, and works with car steering controls (with adapter)
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This sounds very promising.
Have you had a chance to try it with any of the GPS navigations apps? I would reallly like to know if you can play music and navigate at the same time with the GPS instructions coming through via BT as well ...
this thread is making me want to dump my 2004 ish alpine head unit for something newer with BT... argggh
bball said:
This sounds very promising.
Have you had a chance to try it with any of the GPS navigations apps? I would reallly like to know if you can play music and navigate at the same time with the GPS instructions coming through via BT as well ...
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Works just fine, I play music and navigate with andnav2 only issue is that both music and andnav are classed under "media volume" so I can't make the navigation louder in relation to the music.
- Anthony
trinode said:
Works just fine, I play music and navigate with andnav2 only issue is that both music and andnav are classed under "media volume" so I can't make the navigation louder in relation to the music.
- Anthony
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This - I use co-pilot and Google's Navigation as well as stream music and it works quite well. I do wish there was a different volume toggle between music/nav but other than that it works quite well.
Thanks guys, sounds good.
trinode said:
Works just fine, I play music and navigate with andnav2 only issue is that both music and andnav are classed under "media volume" so I can't make the navigation louder in relation to the music.
- Anthony
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my navigation volume is seperate of the media volume.
For those looking for a simpler solution, see my post on Kensington Liquidaux BT car adapter. U$25 delivered, very stylish design, works great. BUT, you'd need either an aux input or go with a tape adapter or an external FM transmitter.
Hi,
I'm wondering if there is any way to stream audio music and/or FM radio from Windows Phone 7 (I have the HTC HD7) to a non A2DP Bluetooth headset (I have the Jabra EasyGO).
It seems that I can only make and receive calls with it.
I've searched all over the place (and web) and cannot find a way to do that.
The only way is to get a new Bluetooth headset with A2DP capability?
Is there is a workaround, please let me know.
Thanks.
I don't know of one. As far as I know, the Headset profile is mono-channel only (plus another channel for the mic) anyhow, and probably quite low bandwidth, so it would likely sound awful.
Thanks for your answer GoodDayToDie.
But I don't mind for quality... Actually I'm not interested to listen for audio.
I just want, for example, to hear drive directions when I'm driving using navigation software (Navigon) instead of hearing from the loudspeaker.
Hmm... I thought the phone *would* use Headset profile for driving directions. Weird. I find the WP7 implementation to be so bad that I prefer to keep using a 4-year-old Garmin Nuvi instead, but I could have sworn I tested it and it came over the BT (and my car only has Headset, not A2DP). Maybe poke around in Settings?
Alternatively, if your car has Aux In, you could use a ripping cable (double-ended headphone cord, they're very cheap) and then the phone will play instructions over the cable into the car's stereo. This is also a great way to use the phone's music player, including Zune Pass if you have it, to play music in the car (I do this all the time). It uses less battery than having Bluetooth transmitting constantly would anyhow.
Hello all
One of the issues I have with Bluetooth on this phone is that the controls aren't granular enough. I want to be able to make and answer phone calls in my car using the Bluetooth connectivity, however, when I turn Bluetooth on, Google Now and Maps also try to send their audio to the car speakers, and either A) you can barely hear the voice, or B) it doesn't work at all and I hear nothing (this is especially true when I'm playing other music media in the car that isn't coming from the phone).
Is there any way (or is there an app) that can redirect Google Now and Maps to continue to use the phone speaker, while phone calls can go through the car? Right now it seems like it's the same setting to control both phone calls and audio output from apps.