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Touch cruise as car mp3 base ?

I read about that new A2DP functionality for music so I got some interesting idea about turning my TC to a car mp3 player. My TC has 8gb so it's cool to have such amount of music in car without need to change discs or something.
There are new car cd players that support bluetooth, my question is how all this stuff works together ? Has anyone tried ? Is it comfortable at it's current state ? I mean will it connect automatically and will the cd player controls work to browse the music stored on TC or will I need to use the TC to navigate songs(less comfort while driving)... What about sound quality, is A2DP provides good sound ? What should I expect from such a setup ?
I would answer half of the question myself only If I would already have the bluetooth supported cd player, but my one doesn't support it :-( so I am thinking about a replacement and will it be worth or not.

I use my Tytyn2 for this purpose with a pioneer B65 Head unit. The quality is good enough for a car considering the background noise and far superior to using a FM transmitter. You will have to use the TC to control the tracks and the display on the head unit does not show track info.

Doesn't seems to be comfortable solution then... There is no interface that will allow head unit to control it ? :-((... Anyone else tried this ?

I use a Jabra BT320S to hear music in car using the line in of my head unit. Sound is good and obviously i have the TC to control the music. SOme programs have very finger friendly buttons. I'm very happy

This is the solution you are looking for.
Get a headunit with a USB port, such as this Kenwood. http://www.bassjunkies.com/index.php?pid=33470&show=expand_image
Install WM5torage on the PDA, and set it up so that the PDA appears as a mass storage device.
Plug the PDA into the headunit with a USB cable.
The headunit should now see the tracks in the memory card of the PDA.
Hope this helps.

WM5torage is not (currently) compatible with the Touch Cruise.

Hello,
since i'm an owner of an saxo vts, which is equal to say been roubed evey time. i just do not have normal player, i instead add amp. connected to the normal audio pre-installation.
Then a audio cable from the PDA to the input of the amp. this also means stereo no front back sound distribution.
i also thought about the bluetooth but then, i realize that with TomTom, phone call , plus blue streaming, the device was not power enough.
Ah since then no one broke in, why because there's actually nothing there to robe.

My Solution
X-Kent. I have been using bluetooth in my car for nearly a year now and it's definately the way forward. Forget plugging it in via USB!
My HU is a JVC BT-1.
First of all the quality of your A2DP can be configured using the 'Advance config' program (found on this forum). I also use a Sony bluetooth headphone receiver and at first my Orbit 2 sounded a bit...cheap! However by cranking up the sample rate to 48000, bit pool to 58 and the max bit pool to 80, it has increased the quality from a decent FM quality to CD quality. This is just in my experience and audio purists would argue otherwise. Nonetheless this applies to my reciever and my car BT.
Next is that if you use BT in your car you would change the tracks by using the phone NOT the head unit. But I think this is FAR better and safer. I have my phone mounted next to the wheel, and not only can I see what track is playing on my phone, I have big pause and next/back track buttons to press and I can even see the album art. Far better than the crappy text display you get on a head unit (unless you have a v.expensive one!) If you did use USB then it would put the track names on the HU and allow full control, but why when you can use the lovely phone touch functions.
Finally (this is where it comes into it's own). The BT-1 has a small mic that you can locate anywhere and you can make calls in the car without touching anything. The BT-1 allows voice dialling and you can speak to people thru your car. And because it's BT then you can have the phone in your pocket. The Headunit is intelligent enough to automatically pick up the phone when it's in range and link them together. No buttons required. If a call comes in and you're listening to music, the ring comes through the speakers of the car. You can then pick up and it pauses the music. When your conversation's done, the music starts up where you left off!
If you use Sat Nav, even if you're listening to music or having a convo, the voice instructions are also routed through your speakers.
Why use anything else other than bluetooth? Hope that helps
Jon

Advice needed on Bluetooth music to Hi-Fi.

Hi,
I have a HTC Touch which I am currently using the Pocket Player software to stream my music from my PC which is located upstairs. I can connect the Touch to my Stereo amplifier through a USB/Jack cable and play the music through my Hifi speakers rather than headphones but I was wondering if it would be possible for me to transmit the audio to my amplifier by way of Bluetooth. It would cerntainly allow me the freedom of changing tracks on my phone sitting in my armchair rather than sat next to my amplifier through a cable. I.E Streaming music from my PC through Wi-FI, via my HTC Touch through bluetooth.
Hope this makes sense. Has anyone done it and is there a noticible difference in sound quality when sending music by bluetooth rather than a wired connection.
I have seen various Bluetooth type devices on ebay and amazon that claim to do this type of thing but as I have never tried Bluetooth I am a little sceptical and not sure exactly what is required. I assume that as my Touch can send Bluetooth beam I would only need a reciever to connect the Jack plug from my amp, is this correct? Or would it be better to buy a jack transmitter/receiver for the job.
I don't want to spend a whole lot of money doing this just to test so can anyone recomend a device.
Thanks in advance for any help.

hi there,
i use this device:
http://www.itechdynamic.com/en/products_spec.asp?cid=6&pid=06020 it's by itech and it's called bluecon35. the picture shows the black unit but i have the white one =) the 3.5mm jack is connected to the aux plug of my amplifier. my stereo system combined with the speakers are then also connected. from there, the bluecon is paired via bluetooth to my x7500. this gives me the luxury of changing track, albums, volume, etc. basically all the music is streamed to my amplifier via the bluecon. with regards to the quality, i would say it's quite good. i don't hear "noise" or static in the background...nor are there jumps or pauses in the connection. everything is just fine except that i'm using a much better set of speakers as compared to headphones.
disadvantages:
- if you listen to your sounds like for 8 hours, then you could have a problem. the battery life of bluecon is around and doesn't have an external power source that allows it to play even when paired. i read that itech is planning to come out with a new similar bt device but this time it's also plugged to the wall socket or a car charger. no idea when that will be
- a minor detail is that if you receive a call, an sms or your phone has an alarm for an event then these sounds are streamed into the amplifier as well.
cost? i got it from thailand and it was for 2000 baht....that's around 63 usd (based on a 32baht to dollar exchange rate).
hope that helps

I use a pinnacle soundbridge, which cost under £50, and it plugs into your hi-fi and streams music from your pc over your wireless network. It can be controlled using the ir remote control, or your pda can access it over wi-fi to control it. As well as streaming from you pc, you can also use it to listen to internet radio.

Thanks for the advice guys. Robson, the Bluetooth receiver is a possibility however after googling it I found a couple of bad reviews. Some people seem to have a problem connecting their devices to it and others have said it has trouble with streaming MP3's over 192kbps. I will look into this further.
Jez83uk, the Pinnacle Soundbridge looks like a really good idea. Is it differcult to set up with a PDA and will it connect to my PC through a wireless router.
Also were would you recomend picking one up for under £50.
Cheers for all the help!

Mine was £39.99 at ebuyer.com, but looking around a few websites they seem to be out of stock everywhere, google products. I recommend keeping an eye on ebay if you're interested in getting one. I have mine connected through a wireless router, and setup was extremely easy. You need to run a media server- I use firefly, but I believe that itunes or windows media player 11 can do the same thing. PDA control is just a case of installing two cab files for a package called visualmr. Hope this helps you.

belkin tunestage 1 here
...was originally only advertised as working with the supplied dongle for earlier ipods, which is how i used to use it, but i discovered it works great with A2DP too. should be v cheap on ebay...

Fuze - connect A2DP to car stereo for music, and HFP to Jawbone at same time?

Hi,
I searched the forum, wiki, etc., but didn't find an answer.
I have an AT&T Fuze with the stock ROM (WM 6.1). I know the Fuze is supposed to support multiple simultaneous bt connections. What I would like to do is connect A2DP to my Pioneer stereo for music playback, and also connect handsfree to my Jawbone 2 headset for phone calls while in the car.
I can successfully connect A2DP to my stereo for music by itself.
I can successfully connect HFP to my Jawbone 2 by itself.
I *have* managed to connect to both at the same time, by staying on an active phone call with my Jawbone, then telling my Fuze to connect to the car stereo. However, no music could be heard (from either Mortplayer or WMP). The phone call stayed up just fine though.
Anyone know if there's a way to get both working at the same time?
(And before you ask, I would just use the hands-free capability of my Pioneer stereo for phone calls too, but I've found my car is too noisy for anyone to hear me with the Pioneer's microphone unless I hold it right in front of my mouth, which defeats the "hands free" goal...)
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Best,
Chris

In your case I do not think that is possible since the concept of being able to juggle 2 devices at the same time requires 1 to relinquish control while the other goes active. It turns off the music so you do not get distracted while talking and reconects the music after the call is over.
It seems to be a software protocol if anything. Yes both can be connected at the same time, but both cannot be "active" as in doing both music playback and voice calls.
I have a bt headset that handles 2 profiles at once and according to the protocol, if a call comes in, it pauses my ipod and then picks up the call and then resets back to normal after the call.. Either you have to mess with the coding itself or someone has to come up with a workaround, but I do not think that is possible.

Thanks for the reply. I had hoped it might be possible for the Fuze to route stereo audio to one BT profile (A2DP), while non-stereo audio (e.g., phone call, system tones, etc.) to the HFP profile, almost as though the profiles acted as addressable "service ports" (ala HTTP, SMTP, etc.).
But, unlike with TCP/IP, I admit to knowing next to nothing about how the BT stack works and how profiles are applied to certain types of data (or, how data is routed to a given BT association based on profile).
Thanks again,
Chris

well the thing is.. the fuze can connect to multiple devices simultaneously, but based on the music and voice call order, it is prohibited from doing both at the same time. so therefore when there is no call, the music plays, but when a call comes it, the music is paused and resumed after the call is done. (obviously the call has higher priority here).
My only suggestion is to leave it as it is since it is done so that you do not get distracted while talking and probably while you're driving.
Multitasking is difficult when you're listening to 2 things, responding to 1, and driving at the same time. The more you multitask the less you are able to devote to your main activity (in your case, driving).
but yeah. if you can find someone who can mess with that and allow for both to be active at the same time, then congrats. Otherwise just think of it as a safety measure.

Except that, when I had both the headset and the stereo connected to the Fuze, the music *didn't* pause. It just didn't output (as though the volume was muted). In fact, in both Mortplayer and WMP, it appeared as though it was playing at ~2X the normal rate (just watching the track playback time counter).
I know what you're talking about re: listen to music, call comes in, music pauses, call ends, music resumes. That's the behavior I get when I use the car stereo for both handsfree and A2DP.
The behavior when connected to two different devices seemed to be different, though, so I hoped that might mean it was in fact possible.
-Chris

yeah I know what you mean, but maybe the fact that it tried to do both tripped it up and so it took the call as a higher priority and focused the data towards the call.
atleast that is what I think.

I have almost the exact same configuration, except I am using a Sony car stereo but have a jawbone. What I have to do every time I get in the car is the following.
1. Let my stereo connect to both hands free and wireless headphone services.
2. Open bluetooth settings
3. Manually connect to my Jawbone.
It works great.
ATT Fuze
Energy Rom 072209
Old jawbone
Sony XPLOD Car Stereo

I'll also add it's pretty neat to be able to push the jawbone to activate MS Voice Commander and choose what music I want to play over my car stereo.

frankrizzo said:
What I have to do every time I get in the car is the following.
1. Let my stereo connect to both hands free and wireless headphone services.
2. Open bluetooth settings
3. Manually connect to my Jawbone.
It works great.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll give that a shot. I'm not sure that my Pioneer stereo will automatically connect both handsfree and A2DP. I know it will do handsfree automatically. We'll see...
-Chris

Stereo Bluetooth Problem

Hi, I have a Palm Treo 750 and an original jawbone bluetooth headset. I was wondering if there's a way for me to play music through my bluetooth headset? Thanks!

i highly doubt it, those types of bluetooth earpieces are designed specifically for talking and as far as i know do not support stereo sound.
if you want to listen to music through bluetooth headphones you have to go out and purchase a pair of MotorROKR S9 headphones
http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/s9/
i own a pair and they are wicked for listening to music, although i'm not a fan of the earbud types of headphones and if you don't have the right sized head they wont fit properly, however they do support stereo sound for music. another point about them, they suck for taking phone calls and talking with them, they pick up way too much background noise, i only use them for music.
The only other alternative would be the logitech type, which i believe are more expensive but same idea. and they're not earbuds which appeals to me, i only bought the motorola type cuz they had been reduced to half as much as i remembered them being when i used to work for best buy lol.
these are the logitech alternative (never used them so i don't know what they're like although i imagine they kick ass for listening to music)
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/headphones/devices/212&cl=US,EN
Looking at the product info on the site, these do come with an adapter for any other music device with a jack plug-in that doesn't have built in bluetooth.

BT sound in Car

Hello, my new car has a bluetooth support, that if I keep my fuze with bt turned on, when the fuze rings it ring on the car's sound, if I answer it works by car's sound and the BT integrated mic, and when I call also, it works the same way.
I'd like to transmit my fuze's sound I hear on WMP, or TCMP right to the car's sound, so I think I would have to configure car's sound as a handsfree.
Would anybody know if the bluetooth's sound would have a good quality? And if there is a away for transmit it?
Thanks

if the car's bt support a2dp you can choose it as wireless stereo under bluetooth settings
if it don't support that you cant

I can't see any configuration about it. what is this a2dp?
My car's bt is only a button, that u press two times to call, and one time to answer, it configures automatically, and I can not see anything about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile#Advanced_Audio_Distribution_Profile_.28A2DP.29

Rudegar is right - if your car supports a2dp you can connect the device to your cars stereo. However some car maufacturers offer upgrades for BT-audio for their car stereos (Audi for example) if it´s not buil in originally.
I have a Sony car stereo (BT5100) and tried it with my touch pro. The sound quality however is fairly poor. I have tried different audio players with no improvement.

hippokrates, any idea if the built in bluetooth in a BMW M6 supports a2dp?

I found a PDF-File on the BMW Homepage. Apparently they don´t support a2dp (even though they don´t specificcally mention it) but offer so called snap-in adapters for a bunch of cellphones. Unfotunately the TP is not one of them. However, they tested the BT-functions (hands free protocoll and SIM-card access) and they are officially working with the touch pro. But I suppose you found that out allready ;-)

H, thanks for that. I couldn't find it on the BMW site. The bluetooth does work well with my TP in the M6. I only use it for the phone, which works very well. I'll have to experiment with the music and see if I can get that working. I'll report back.