I just got an after market radio that supports bluetooth audio streaming & voice call. (Eclipse CD5030) After several tries, I seem to have it figured out so I wanna share my finding.
1 - Audio quality is ok. Acceptable, but not great. Bass output is fine, but treble is almost gone & distorted.
2 - When trying to transfer contact list from phone to the radio, bluetooth connection dropped instantly.
3 - Voice call quality appears to be normal. (i.e. similar to when you use handset / headset) According to callers, they can hear me just fine. Caller audio is fine on my end. I mounted the microphone near the visor, to the middle of the windshield.
4 - This radio can configure caller's audio output to only driver's side or both. But output is for front speakers only.
5 - This radio doesn't pipe phone's ringtone through. So you only get basic ringtone that comes with the radio.
6 - On my first try with navigation + music player, audio skip/drop out very often. On second+ tries with phone plugged in, no problem. -- I remember reading somewhere that max CPU frequency is automatically lowered when battery is low. This seems to make sense.
7 - I don't have a car dock for N1 yet. (waiting for Google official N1 car dock). Only voice prompt was adequate.
7 - You can skip forward/backward from the radio. But there's no pause button. The only way to pause is to switch to other audio source.
8 - If you prefer better audio quality, you can plug the phone into radio's USB port and enable USB storage mode. It will play music off the phone's memory card. -- Or just plug the 3.5mm cable to the phone, but you lose ability to control what is played.
9 - When using BT audio streaming, it doesn't display song's name. Just your phone's BT name.
That's hit. Hope it's useful for people looking to use/get BT car radio with N1.
After having the phone for a while today was the first day I did this with mine as well, also an Eclipse head unit.
My findings were pretty much the exact same. I did get a kick out of playing pandora out of the car stereo though while running navigation and it all working just perfectly.
Audio could be improved but it really is pretty cool.
for those not yet purchased.
Kenwood BT8044U
Audio quality excellent, does have pause, phonebook works, and works with car steering controls (with adapter)
Took awhile but the N1 works with MS Sync in my girlfriends fusion and in my Escape with an after market JVC with the bluetooth addon.
trinode said:
for those not yet purchased.
Kenwood BT8044U
Audio quality excellent, does have pause, phonebook works, and works with car steering controls (with adapter)
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This sounds very promising.
Have you had a chance to try it with any of the GPS navigations apps? I would reallly like to know if you can play music and navigate at the same time with the GPS instructions coming through via BT as well ...
this thread is making me want to dump my 2004 ish alpine head unit for something newer with BT... argggh
bball said:
This sounds very promising.
Have you had a chance to try it with any of the GPS navigations apps? I would reallly like to know if you can play music and navigate at the same time with the GPS instructions coming through via BT as well ...
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Works just fine, I play music and navigate with andnav2 only issue is that both music and andnav are classed under "media volume" so I can't make the navigation louder in relation to the music.
- Anthony
trinode said:
Works just fine, I play music and navigate with andnav2 only issue is that both music and andnav are classed under "media volume" so I can't make the navigation louder in relation to the music.
- Anthony
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This - I use co-pilot and Google's Navigation as well as stream music and it works quite well. I do wish there was a different volume toggle between music/nav but other than that it works quite well.
Thanks guys, sounds good.
trinode said:
Works just fine, I play music and navigate with andnav2 only issue is that both music and andnav are classed under "media volume" so I can't make the navigation louder in relation to the music.
- Anthony
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my navigation volume is seperate of the media volume.
For those looking for a simpler solution, see my post on Kensington Liquidaux BT car adapter. U$25 delivered, very stylish design, works great. BUT, you'd need either an aux input or go with a tape adapter or an external FM transmitter.
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I read about that new A2DP functionality for music so I got some interesting idea about turning my TC to a car mp3 player. My TC has 8gb so it's cool to have such amount of music in car without need to change discs or something.
There are new car cd players that support bluetooth, my question is how all this stuff works together ? Has anyone tried ? Is it comfortable at it's current state ? I mean will it connect automatically and will the cd player controls work to browse the music stored on TC or will I need to use the TC to navigate songs(less comfort while driving)... What about sound quality, is A2DP provides good sound ? What should I expect from such a setup ?
I would answer half of the question myself only If I would already have the bluetooth supported cd player, but my one doesn't support it :-( so I am thinking about a replacement and will it be worth or not.
I use my Tytyn2 for this purpose with a pioneer B65 Head unit. The quality is good enough for a car considering the background noise and far superior to using a FM transmitter. You will have to use the TC to control the tracks and the display on the head unit does not show track info.
Doesn't seems to be comfortable solution then... There is no interface that will allow head unit to control it ? :-((... Anyone else tried this ?
I use a Jabra BT320S to hear music in car using the line in of my head unit. Sound is good and obviously i have the TC to control the music. SOme programs have very finger friendly buttons. I'm very happy
This is the solution you are looking for.
Get a headunit with a USB port, such as this Kenwood. http://www.bassjunkies.com/index.php?pid=33470&show=expand_image
Install WM5torage on the PDA, and set it up so that the PDA appears as a mass storage device.
Plug the PDA into the headunit with a USB cable.
The headunit should now see the tracks in the memory card of the PDA.
Hope this helps.
WM5torage is not (currently) compatible with the Touch Cruise.
Hello,
since i'm an owner of an saxo vts, which is equal to say been roubed evey time. i just do not have normal player, i instead add amp. connected to the normal audio pre-installation.
Then a audio cable from the PDA to the input of the amp. this also means stereo no front back sound distribution.
i also thought about the bluetooth but then, i realize that with TomTom, phone call , plus blue streaming, the device was not power enough.
Ah since then no one broke in, why because there's actually nothing there to robe.
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X-Kent. I have been using bluetooth in my car for nearly a year now and it's definately the way forward. Forget plugging it in via USB!
My HU is a JVC BT-1.
First of all the quality of your A2DP can be configured using the 'Advance config' program (found on this forum). I also use a Sony bluetooth headphone receiver and at first my Orbit 2 sounded a bit...cheap! However by cranking up the sample rate to 48000, bit pool to 58 and the max bit pool to 80, it has increased the quality from a decent FM quality to CD quality. This is just in my experience and audio purists would argue otherwise. Nonetheless this applies to my reciever and my car BT.
Next is that if you use BT in your car you would change the tracks by using the phone NOT the head unit. But I think this is FAR better and safer. I have my phone mounted next to the wheel, and not only can I see what track is playing on my phone, I have big pause and next/back track buttons to press and I can even see the album art. Far better than the crappy text display you get on a head unit (unless you have a v.expensive one!) If you did use USB then it would put the track names on the HU and allow full control, but why when you can use the lovely phone touch functions.
Finally (this is where it comes into it's own). The BT-1 has a small mic that you can locate anywhere and you can make calls in the car without touching anything. The BT-1 allows voice dialling and you can speak to people thru your car. And because it's BT then you can have the phone in your pocket. The Headunit is intelligent enough to automatically pick up the phone when it's in range and link them together. No buttons required. If a call comes in and you're listening to music, the ring comes through the speakers of the car. You can then pick up and it pauses the music. When your conversation's done, the music starts up where you left off!
If you use Sat Nav, even if you're listening to music or having a convo, the voice instructions are also routed through your speakers.
Why use anything else other than bluetooth? Hope that helps
Jon
Did anyone try this? I'm thinking of buying a new radio WITH bluetooth..
IF the bluetooth radio stuff works, then tomtom/music could go via my HTC which would be awesome... or is it possible to play MP3's via an USB outlet, or have some auxout to my htc?
A few months ago, I bought a head unit (Dual XHD6425) that has front panel aux out, usb, and bluetooth. I originally got it for its 3.5 mm auxillary out for my ipod, but I then bought the add-on bluetooth module and started using my cellphone and now my Fuze. Bluetooth audio streaming (A2DP) is much more convenient as there are no wires to deal with. The TF3D music program supports AVRC so you can use the unit's fast fwd/rewind/stop buttons to control playback. Tomtom also routes its audio through the bluetooth interface as well. Of course, you also get hands-free calling, which is great as I usually forget to put on or turn on my bluetooth headset when I enter my car.
My head unit could also play music from USB sources (name hard drives, etc, but strangely not ipods). The unit was able to read from the Fuze since it can mount itself as a storage drive providing access to the microsd card. However, in this mode, I'd have to scroll through songs using the unit's interface, which was not very easy to navigate. Still, I can use the USB port to charge/power devices if I needed to do so.
^^^Ditto what he said^^^
My Xterra has a Pioneer single din headunit with built-in Bluetooth. A2DP streaming works great, but sometimes sounds a little tinny or washed-out. If you have added a subwoofer to your vehicle then get a headunit with an independent subwoofer level control. Some songs will be very bassy, while others will need some added punch...this can be adjusted very easily especially with a remote-mount bass level knob.
You can also sync your contacts over to the BT headunits and set speed dials as well as picture dials in some cases. My Pioneer replacement will be a double din 7" touchscreen dvd player with BT. Make sure it has plenty of audio controls/adjustments...digital time correction is a nice feature to help balance sound and set stage.
Are there any good in-ear headphones with working previous/next buttons to control next/previous track and volume in any music player?
Hi well I've been using the Altec Lansing BackBeat 903 Bluetooth Headset for about 3 months now and that has all the features your looking for plus they sound damn good as well.
I use the stock headphones with winamp, and double tap the pause button and it skips to the next track
But for a real solution with back.. you could get one of the little reciever thingies with a 3.5 jack, so you get wireless + controls + any headphone you like ^_^. But there could be some quality loss if its cheap..
Motorola's s9-HD also have theses foncions enabled.
Thanks for the replies. Those two seem to be ear-hugging types, are there any with regular design?
the best would be to use the Nokia remotes that came with the n95 and others. But apparently it doesn't work since the layout inside the jack are not the same between Samsung and Nokia... too bad
I have a question about this topic, I tried to use the apple in-ear headphones with the mic and the volume buttons on my SGS but when i fully plug it into the jack, theres no sound.... but if i leave it out abit then it works fine.... Do u guys know what is going on?
Any Bluetooth headset supporting A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile : For Stereo audio) and AVRCP (Audio/Video Remote Control Profile) should work. There are plenty of BT headsets out there. Search for A2DP Bluetooth headsets (if they have media player controls then the chances are they support AVRCP too).
I use a Bluetooth clip, it gives a certain amount of wireless freedom and the ability to use any 3.5mm headphone. If you already have a good pair of headphones you like then a BT clip is perhaps the best way to go.
Here is what I use (Motorola S605):
With a display (SonyEricsson WM600 ):
Both of them have a built in Stereo FM radio as well, if you listen to radio that could come in handy (since the radio on SGS is mono ).
EDIT: One last thing, Audio quality over Bluetooth is slightly lower compared to a wired connection. This is due to the compression codec used in Bluetooth transmission. However, the difference depends entirely on your expectation of sound quality and the quality of your audio files. For example if you are an average user who is happy with a pair of $25 head/earphones listening to MP3s encoded at 128kbps then you won't notice a difference. But if you are an audiophile having $100+ headphones listening to 256kbps+ encoded MP3s then you’ll definitely notice a difference.
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But if you are an audiophile having $100+ headphones listening to 256kbps+ encoded MP3s then you’ll definitely notice a difference.
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Could you please tell me is this possible with bluetooth clips:
I connect wired headphones to SGS directly (not to the bluetooth clip 3.5mm hole), pair the bluetooth clip with SGS, start player and listen to music through headphones and have ability to start-stop player by bluetooth clip buttons. When the call comes I hear it in headphones and start-stop player or push call answer button on bluetooth clip. After pushing answer button I hear calling person's voice in headphones but talk to the bluetooth mic. After call is ended I can start-stop playing music again by bluetooth buttons. This is 100% tested or it's is appeared to be working? Thanks.
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Could you please tell me is this possible with bluetooth clips:
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I don't think it works like that, but I have to check to confirm.
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pair the bluetooth clip with SGS, start player and listen to music through headphones and have ability to start-stop player by bluetooth clip buttons.
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When you are not using BT audio, I doubt the player will respond to BT player controls.
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After pushing answer button I hear calling person's voice in headphones but talk to the bluetooth mic.
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I dont think you can split the mic and headset function like that, either you use the BT for both mic and headphone or not at all. (unless someone modifies the driver). But again, something I have to check to confirm.
For basic call and volume controls something like this might work.
Here is another alternative, but no mic (not released yet either).
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Here is what I use (Motorola S605):
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Very helpful, purchasing from ebay as we speak, im sick of not being able to switch song whilst cycling...
Just a question really, do you just use the standard samsung music player?
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Any Bluetooth headset supporting A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile : For Stereo audio) and AVRCP (Audio/Video Remote Control Profile) should work. There are plenty of BT headsets out there. Search for A2DP Bluetooth headsets (if they have media player controls then the chances are they support AVRCP too).
I use a Bluetooth clip, it gives a certain amount of wireless freedom and the ability to use any 3.5mm headphone. If you already have a good pair of headphones you like then a BT clip is perhaps the best way to go.
Here is what I use (Motorola S605):
With a display (SonyEricsson WM600 ):
Both of them have a built in Stereo FM radio as well, if you listen to radio that could come in handy (since the radio on SGS is mono ).
EDIT: One last thing, Audio quality over Bluetooth is slightly lower compared to a wired connection. This is due to the compression codec used in Bluetooth transmission. However, the difference depends entirely on your expectation of sound quality and the quality of your audio files. For example if you are an average user who is happy with a pair of $25 head/earphones listening to MP3s encoded at 128kbps then you won't notice a difference. But if you are an audiophile having $100+ headphones listening to 256kbps+ encoded MP3s then you’ll definitely notice a difference.
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I like these, thanks.
How does this things work? Do you plug anything to the usb port or do you just enable blutooth and play? Also can you use previous/next buttons while the screen is locked? Can you do these with the default player or do you need anything like WidgetLocker and add the player to the lock screen?
Also are there any wired versions of these?
I'm in my car a lot. So I like to listen to podcasts, Pandora or music from my Infuse. The problem I'm having now is that I just got a Bluetooth speaker that mounts to my visor.
What's happening is when I connect to the Bluetooth speaker and I want to listen to music instead of the music going through the auxiliary port it plays through my Bluetooth speaker. The only way I can fix this is to open my audio player (I use the one that came installed on the infuse) click the menu button and select "via phone." Then I get my podcast or music to play through the auxiliary port.
Is there a quicker way to do this or an easier way? I can't just open up Pandora and with my Bluetooth speaker connected have it play through my auxiliary port. It always defaults to playing through bluetooth if it's enabled and connected. I have to manually open my music player select a song then hit menu and change it to "via phone"
Its just frustrating. Any help is appreciated.
Dont think so. Why dont you just take your calls through the AUX port instead? i do that and it ways works fine. As for your bluetooth issue. Since your visor clip supports A2DP streamig it will automatically play through bluetooth since its connected
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Optimus-Prime,
I suppose I could take my calls through the aux port the only thing is I have to jack up the volume to be able to hear the person on the other end. I also have not tested the quality of using my phones speaker vs the quality of the visor mounted Motorola Bluetooth device. I'm hoping/thinking the Motorola will have better audio quality. This I have yet to determine.
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I suppose I could take my calls through the aux port the only thing is I have to jack up the volume to be able to hear the person on the other end. I also have not tested the quality of using my phones speaker vs the quality of the visor mounted Motorola Bluetooth device. I'm hoping/thinking the Motorola will have better audio quality. This I have yet to determine.
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Yeah I do that too on my car but no biggie for me.
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Hi,
I'm wondering if there is any way to stream audio music and/or FM radio from Windows Phone 7 (I have the HTC HD7) to a non A2DP Bluetooth headset (I have the Jabra EasyGO).
It seems that I can only make and receive calls with it.
I've searched all over the place (and web) and cannot find a way to do that.
The only way is to get a new Bluetooth headset with A2DP capability?
Is there is a workaround, please let me know.
Thanks.
I don't know of one. As far as I know, the Headset profile is mono-channel only (plus another channel for the mic) anyhow, and probably quite low bandwidth, so it would likely sound awful.
Thanks for your answer GoodDayToDie.
But I don't mind for quality... Actually I'm not interested to listen for audio.
I just want, for example, to hear drive directions when I'm driving using navigation software (Navigon) instead of hearing from the loudspeaker.
Hmm... I thought the phone *would* use Headset profile for driving directions. Weird. I find the WP7 implementation to be so bad that I prefer to keep using a 4-year-old Garmin Nuvi instead, but I could have sworn I tested it and it came over the BT (and my car only has Headset, not A2DP). Maybe poke around in Settings?
Alternatively, if your car has Aux In, you could use a ripping cable (double-ended headphone cord, they're very cheap) and then the phone will play instructions over the cable into the car's stereo. This is also a great way to use the phone's music player, including Zune Pass if you have it, to play music in the car (I do this all the time). It uses less battery than having Bluetooth transmitting constantly would anyhow.