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How I integrated my Trinity into my car

Hi all -
I have an older Audi a4 with the factory Concert/Bose radio. I replaced the CD changer input with one of these:
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=50900&i=581DFVW&tp=1672
This allows me to input audio to my car radio using RCA-type connectors. I then got one of these:
http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=2009&sku=03178
that lets me plug into a 1/8 jack and send the audio to the RCA jacks. I then got:
http://www.ppc4you.com/pages/13635.html
which allows me to pluf the 1/8" plug into my Trinity. I didn't use this exact one, but mine is similar to this one. Don't use the 1/8" converter that is in the form of a single solid piece, only use the ones that have a short length of wire between the two ends. The solid ones do not stay in properly. Also, by using the Y connector, I can both plug my Trinity into my stereo as well as plug in a regular 12v lighter power converter and power it. I then finished it off with the ProClip/Brodit cradle:
http://www.proclipusa.com/home/home.aspx?afid=42&admkt=670ca577
Everything works great! Once I have it all hooked in,
1.) I can play MP3's through my car stereo (useful)
2.) TomTom directions also go through my car stereo, and the music is slightly muted making directions easier to follow (very useful)
3.) Best of all, I tried calling my girlfriend (while the Trinity was in the cradle, playing MP3's through my stereo), and a.) her side of the conversation came through my car speakers, with the music muted, and b.) she said she could hear me just fine (but a little loud), which tells me the Trinity continued to use the internal microphone and amplified my voice the same way it would when set on speakerphone!
So, I now have the equivalent of in-dash navigation, integrated cellphone, and MP3 player. And I can take it with me when I leave the car! This is exactly why I bought this phone in the first place. What surprises me is that it actually worked!!! <grin>
Mike

Thanks for sharing your setup!

Good on ya!!
I share a similar story.
I drive a Mazda 3.
I installed a chip at the back of the stereo so that it allows an audio auxiliary input into my car stereo.
I then bought a 3-in-1 adaptor, car charger and mic adaptor from ebay.
This is so that I can place my craddle and phone further away, while having the mic externalised and stuck near my dashboard.
So in effect, same deal! GPS navigation + mp3 player while charging, calls get accepted no problem, and make calls via voice speed dial. Absolutely loving it.

Hey guys,
You should check out my set up, I have my Trinity on a GPS holder (suction cup), my trinity is then connected to a device like this:
http://www.oo.com.au/MP3_Player_Car_Modulator_FM_T_P5477C75.cfm
It accepts USB drives to play MP3's through the FM Transmitter, however I used the USB port to power my device, and the 3.5mm port (this allows you to plug in other devices and play through the device via FM) goes to my Bluetooth handsfree (i-Tech Radio Clip).
From here I have an ultimate wireless solution apart from the recharging, however Bluetooth really takes a lot of memory and slows the Trinity, however music plays and Tomtom works! no issues with that, the Radio Clip has remote functions so I can change music while Tomtom is still on, I don't have to minimise Tomtom and go to WMP to change music, I just do it on my Bluetooth device.
However this isn't a perfect solution, as Bluetooth really takes a lot of memory

I looked into using an FM transmitter approach, but there are a lot of FM stations around where I drive, so finding a clear channel gets to be a pain. Also, I'm stupidly picky when it comes to audio quality, which is better using a wired solution rather than the FM solution. Looks like a good apprach though!

hey guys
I bought a £50 car stereo from Lidl
which has a usb port
superb
x

In most cases with FM Transmittors and it depends on the FM Transmittor, it usually dominates the FM Channel, so if you had it on say 104.1 in which in Australia is 104.1 Today FM as long as the Transmittor is nearby and close to your aerial it is all good!
But yeah, I feel that bluetooth and FM Transmission can cause quality lose in Audio, however sometimes I can't tell the difference, I have the USB to 3.5mm converter and I was dumb enough not to find the USB and 3.5mm unit, which was available at that time, but oh well, alls well ends well.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...item=160180673140&_trksid=p3984.cWON.m313.lVI
I bought this one and works great, it has everything I need, but when I connect it to my stereo, the music has no bass. Still have to figure that one out. Any ideas?
I have a small 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter, then connect that to one of those tapes with 3.5mm jack. It works great on my PSP, but with my phone the bass is gone. I have 1.23 with GPS and WM5. I have to try different player (Using WMP) and the HTC equalizer & audio manager.
Anyway, I love the setup, everything is together into a cool device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333607

Hey! Exactly the same setup I had with my old Magician! I had glued the 2,5mm jack to the Brodit holder, so it would connect power and audio at the same time. It was a treat to use!
However, now I have a Sony BT2500 Bluetooth car radio and don't need no connectors (besides USB power) any more.

landshark said:
3.) Best of all, I tried calling my girlfriend (while the Trinity was in the cradle, playing MP3's through my stereo), and a.) her side of the conversation came through my car speakers, with the music muted, and b.) she said she could hear me just fine (but a little loud), which tells me the Trinity continued to use the internal microphone and amplified my voice the same way it would when set on speakerphone!
Mike
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I have a similar configuration, on my alpine stereo.
Sound quality is great and everything works as you told.. very good but,
when i have a call, i can hear very well from my car speaker but the other side can't hear me my Trinity don't continue to use the internal microphone. I'm quite sure it's a trouble by audio jack to htc usb converter: every post i read i found only Y cables (audio and input power)... mine is 3 way: http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=7920
Or maybe a rom trouble? i'm using Bepe's 0.79 WM6...
does exist a cab file witch forces trinity to keep using internal microphone always??

i'm planning to buy a new radio with bluetooth audio streaming capabilities for my Trans Am.
probably this radio:
http://www.amazon.de/LG-MP3-CD-Tune...r_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1202059350&sr=8-1
Nice Price, Nice Functions, less Cable-Chaos....

Touch cruise as car mp3 base ?

I read about that new A2DP functionality for music so I got some interesting idea about turning my TC to a car mp3 player. My TC has 8gb so it's cool to have such amount of music in car without need to change discs or something.
There are new car cd players that support bluetooth, my question is how all this stuff works together ? Has anyone tried ? Is it comfortable at it's current state ? I mean will it connect automatically and will the cd player controls work to browse the music stored on TC or will I need to use the TC to navigate songs(less comfort while driving)... What about sound quality, is A2DP provides good sound ? What should I expect from such a setup ?
I would answer half of the question myself only If I would already have the bluetooth supported cd player, but my one doesn't support it :-( so I am thinking about a replacement and will it be worth or not.

I use my Tytyn2 for this purpose with a pioneer B65 Head unit. The quality is good enough for a car considering the background noise and far superior to using a FM transmitter. You will have to use the TC to control the tracks and the display on the head unit does not show track info.

Doesn't seems to be comfortable solution then... There is no interface that will allow head unit to control it ? :-((... Anyone else tried this ?

I use a Jabra BT320S to hear music in car using the line in of my head unit. Sound is good and obviously i have the TC to control the music. SOme programs have very finger friendly buttons. I'm very happy

This is the solution you are looking for.
Get a headunit with a USB port, such as this Kenwood. http://www.bassjunkies.com/index.php?pid=33470&show=expand_image
Install WM5torage on the PDA, and set it up so that the PDA appears as a mass storage device.
Plug the PDA into the headunit with a USB cable.
The headunit should now see the tracks in the memory card of the PDA.
Hope this helps.

WM5torage is not (currently) compatible with the Touch Cruise.

Hello,
since i'm an owner of an saxo vts, which is equal to say been roubed evey time. i just do not have normal player, i instead add amp. connected to the normal audio pre-installation.
Then a audio cable from the PDA to the input of the amp. this also means stereo no front back sound distribution.
i also thought about the bluetooth but then, i realize that with TomTom, phone call , plus blue streaming, the device was not power enough.
Ah since then no one broke in, why because there's actually nothing there to robe.

My Solution
X-Kent. I have been using bluetooth in my car for nearly a year now and it's definately the way forward. Forget plugging it in via USB!
My HU is a JVC BT-1.
First of all the quality of your A2DP can be configured using the 'Advance config' program (found on this forum). I also use a Sony bluetooth headphone receiver and at first my Orbit 2 sounded a bit...cheap! However by cranking up the sample rate to 48000, bit pool to 58 and the max bit pool to 80, it has increased the quality from a decent FM quality to CD quality. This is just in my experience and audio purists would argue otherwise. Nonetheless this applies to my reciever and my car BT.
Next is that if you use BT in your car you would change the tracks by using the phone NOT the head unit. But I think this is FAR better and safer. I have my phone mounted next to the wheel, and not only can I see what track is playing on my phone, I have big pause and next/back track buttons to press and I can even see the album art. Far better than the crappy text display you get on a head unit (unless you have a v.expensive one!) If you did use USB then it would put the track names on the HU and allow full control, but why when you can use the lovely phone touch functions.
Finally (this is where it comes into it's own). The BT-1 has a small mic that you can locate anywhere and you can make calls in the car without touching anything. The BT-1 allows voice dialling and you can speak to people thru your car. And because it's BT then you can have the phone in your pocket. The Headunit is intelligent enough to automatically pick up the phone when it's in range and link them together. No buttons required. If a call comes in and you're listening to music, the ring comes through the speakers of the car. You can then pick up and it pauses the music. When your conversation's done, the music starts up where you left off!
If you use Sat Nav, even if you're listening to music or having a convo, the voice instructions are also routed through your speakers.
Why use anything else other than bluetooth? Hope that helps
Jon

Advice needed on Bluetooth music to Hi-Fi.

Hi,
I have a HTC Touch which I am currently using the Pocket Player software to stream my music from my PC which is located upstairs. I can connect the Touch to my Stereo amplifier through a USB/Jack cable and play the music through my Hifi speakers rather than headphones but I was wondering if it would be possible for me to transmit the audio to my amplifier by way of Bluetooth. It would cerntainly allow me the freedom of changing tracks on my phone sitting in my armchair rather than sat next to my amplifier through a cable. I.E Streaming music from my PC through Wi-FI, via my HTC Touch through bluetooth.
Hope this makes sense. Has anyone done it and is there a noticible difference in sound quality when sending music by bluetooth rather than a wired connection.
I have seen various Bluetooth type devices on ebay and amazon that claim to do this type of thing but as I have never tried Bluetooth I am a little sceptical and not sure exactly what is required. I assume that as my Touch can send Bluetooth beam I would only need a reciever to connect the Jack plug from my amp, is this correct? Or would it be better to buy a jack transmitter/receiver for the job.
I don't want to spend a whole lot of money doing this just to test so can anyone recomend a device.
Thanks in advance for any help.

hi there,
i use this device:
http://www.itechdynamic.com/en/products_spec.asp?cid=6&pid=06020 it's by itech and it's called bluecon35. the picture shows the black unit but i have the white one =) the 3.5mm jack is connected to the aux plug of my amplifier. my stereo system combined with the speakers are then also connected. from there, the bluecon is paired via bluetooth to my x7500. this gives me the luxury of changing track, albums, volume, etc. basically all the music is streamed to my amplifier via the bluecon. with regards to the quality, i would say it's quite good. i don't hear "noise" or static in the background...nor are there jumps or pauses in the connection. everything is just fine except that i'm using a much better set of speakers as compared to headphones.
disadvantages:
- if you listen to your sounds like for 8 hours, then you could have a problem. the battery life of bluecon is around and doesn't have an external power source that allows it to play even when paired. i read that itech is planning to come out with a new similar bt device but this time it's also plugged to the wall socket or a car charger. no idea when that will be
- a minor detail is that if you receive a call, an sms or your phone has an alarm for an event then these sounds are streamed into the amplifier as well.
cost? i got it from thailand and it was for 2000 baht....that's around 63 usd (based on a 32baht to dollar exchange rate).
hope that helps

I use a pinnacle soundbridge, which cost under £50, and it plugs into your hi-fi and streams music from your pc over your wireless network. It can be controlled using the ir remote control, or your pda can access it over wi-fi to control it. As well as streaming from you pc, you can also use it to listen to internet radio.

Thanks for the advice guys. Robson, the Bluetooth receiver is a possibility however after googling it I found a couple of bad reviews. Some people seem to have a problem connecting their devices to it and others have said it has trouble with streaming MP3's over 192kbps. I will look into this further.
Jez83uk, the Pinnacle Soundbridge looks like a really good idea. Is it differcult to set up with a PDA and will it connect to my PC through a wireless router.
Also were would you recomend picking one up for under £50.
Cheers for all the help!

Mine was £39.99 at ebuyer.com, but looking around a few websites they seem to be out of stock everywhere, google products. I recommend keeping an eye on ebay if you're interested in getting one. I have mine connected through a wireless router, and setup was extremely easy. You need to run a media server- I use firefly, but I believe that itunes or windows media player 11 can do the same thing. PDA control is just a case of installing two cab files for a package called visualmr. Hope this helps you.

belkin tunestage 1 here
...was originally only advertised as working with the supplied dongle for earlier ipods, which is how i used to use it, but i discovered it works great with A2DP too. should be v cheap on ebay...

BT sound in Car

Hello, my new car has a bluetooth support, that if I keep my fuze with bt turned on, when the fuze rings it ring on the car's sound, if I answer it works by car's sound and the BT integrated mic, and when I call also, it works the same way.
I'd like to transmit my fuze's sound I hear on WMP, or TCMP right to the car's sound, so I think I would have to configure car's sound as a handsfree.
Would anybody know if the bluetooth's sound would have a good quality? And if there is a away for transmit it?
Thanks

if the car's bt support a2dp you can choose it as wireless stereo under bluetooth settings
if it don't support that you cant

I can't see any configuration about it. what is this a2dp?
My car's bt is only a button, that u press two times to call, and one time to answer, it configures automatically, and I can not see anything about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile#Advanced_Audio_Distribution_Profile_.28A2DP.29

Rudegar is right - if your car supports a2dp you can connect the device to your cars stereo. However some car maufacturers offer upgrades for BT-audio for their car stereos (Audi for example) if it´s not buil in originally.
I have a Sony car stereo (BT5100) and tried it with my touch pro. The sound quality however is fairly poor. I have tried different audio players with no improvement.

hippokrates, any idea if the built in bluetooth in a BMW M6 supports a2dp?

I found a PDF-File on the BMW Homepage. Apparently they don´t support a2dp (even though they don´t specificcally mention it) but offer so called snap-in adapters for a bunch of cellphones. Unfotunately the TP is not one of them. However, they tested the BT-functions (hands free protocoll and SIM-card access) and they are officially working with the touch pro. But I suppose you found that out allready ;-)

H, thanks for that. I couldn't find it on the BMW site. The bluetooth does work well with my TP in the M6. I only use it for the phone, which works very well. I'll have to experiment with the music and see if I can get that working. I'll report back.

[Q] iPod USB Emulator... possible?

I am curious to know it if would be at all possible to develop a USB mode to emulate an iPod's USB connection. It'd be a tedious reverse engineering process to see how the iPod pairs with stereos, docks and such, however the outcome would be great considering how Android has no love in the stereo market right now. Perhaps the JVC receiver that will be coming out soon will change this... (http://ceoutlook.com/2011/12/05/jvc-mobile-gets-android-and-gesture-control/)
An ideal application would be to pair with your car stereo, just plug in your phone to the stereo and select the iPod emulator and voila, you can browse your music, play your music, etc. from your car stereo.
Yes, we have bluetooth, but as far as I know you're unable to browse your device on your car stereo using this. The audio quality is probably not as good as a direct connection to the stereo. Just recently I've become aware that it can transmit the song information to the receiver. The problem with this is finding a receiver that supports it, and for a relatively low price tag. Most low-end receivers already have iPod hookups, but if you throw in HD Radio, SiriusXM, Bluetooth, Navigation, or anything else the price will quickly double. You can also just get a simple receive that allows calls via Bluetooth but not A2DP for a lot less.
We also have an audio jack we could connect to, or audio through USB, but you still don't get interfacing as an iPod would (such as skipping tracks, browsing music, play/pausing)

Yes we need android connectivity just like the iPod. Why hasn't this happened yet?

i also was searching for this.
now i use this solution
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000PS70DM

This is needed
Old thread, I know, but this is an excellent idea. I had thought about such an emulation over the last few years, but had been happy to use DAB radio in my current car. We get a new car this weekend that doesn't have DAB, so I'm left with the old iPod USB connection issue.
I'm no coder these days, but is some reverse engineering of the USB signals not possible? Using bluetooth audio is *some* sort of solution, but doesn't go as far as to allow browsing tracks, albums, artists, playlists etc from my car's interface.
It seems like this is the obvious solution that no-one has thought of.
D

I've been wanting to do this for years, ever since iPod control in car stereos became commonplace (2006-ish?). That is, build a little box with a female iPod dock connector and a USB port. Plug any USB flash drive or hard drive into the box, and it reads the MP3 files on the drive and emulates an iPod. The iPod protocol is serial and seems to be hacked and documented on the web.
https://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/ee476/FinalProjects/s2007/awr8_asl45/awr8_asl45/index.html
https://nuxx.net/wiki/Apple_Accessory_Protocol
My problem is I don't have the programming ability to write the software for the little iPod emulator box.