How I integrated my Trinity into my car - P3600 Accessories

Hi all -
I have an older Audi a4 with the factory Concert/Bose radio. I replaced the CD changer input with one of these:
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=50900&i=581DFVW&tp=1672
This allows me to input audio to my car radio using RCA-type connectors. I then got one of these:
http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=2009&sku=03178
that lets me plug into a 1/8 jack and send the audio to the RCA jacks. I then got:
http://www.ppc4you.com/pages/13635.html
which allows me to pluf the 1/8" plug into my Trinity. I didn't use this exact one, but mine is similar to this one. Don't use the 1/8" converter that is in the form of a single solid piece, only use the ones that have a short length of wire between the two ends. The solid ones do not stay in properly. Also, by using the Y connector, I can both plug my Trinity into my stereo as well as plug in a regular 12v lighter power converter and power it. I then finished it off with the ProClip/Brodit cradle:
http://www.proclipusa.com/home/home.aspx?afid=42&admkt=670ca577
Everything works great! Once I have it all hooked in,
1.) I can play MP3's through my car stereo (useful)
2.) TomTom directions also go through my car stereo, and the music is slightly muted making directions easier to follow (very useful)
3.) Best of all, I tried calling my girlfriend (while the Trinity was in the cradle, playing MP3's through my stereo), and a.) her side of the conversation came through my car speakers, with the music muted, and b.) she said she could hear me just fine (but a little loud), which tells me the Trinity continued to use the internal microphone and amplified my voice the same way it would when set on speakerphone!
So, I now have the equivalent of in-dash navigation, integrated cellphone, and MP3 player. And I can take it with me when I leave the car! This is exactly why I bought this phone in the first place. What surprises me is that it actually worked!!! <grin>
Mike

Thanks for sharing your setup!

Good on ya!!
I share a similar story.
I drive a Mazda 3.
I installed a chip at the back of the stereo so that it allows an audio auxiliary input into my car stereo.
I then bought a 3-in-1 adaptor, car charger and mic adaptor from ebay.
This is so that I can place my craddle and phone further away, while having the mic externalised and stuck near my dashboard.
So in effect, same deal! GPS navigation + mp3 player while charging, calls get accepted no problem, and make calls via voice speed dial. Absolutely loving it.

Hey guys,
You should check out my set up, I have my Trinity on a GPS holder (suction cup), my trinity is then connected to a device like this:
http://www.oo.com.au/MP3_Player_Car_Modulator_FM_T_P5477C75.cfm
It accepts USB drives to play MP3's through the FM Transmitter, however I used the USB port to power my device, and the 3.5mm port (this allows you to plug in other devices and play through the device via FM) goes to my Bluetooth handsfree (i-Tech Radio Clip).
From here I have an ultimate wireless solution apart from the recharging, however Bluetooth really takes a lot of memory and slows the Trinity, however music plays and Tomtom works! no issues with that, the Radio Clip has remote functions so I can change music while Tomtom is still on, I don't have to minimise Tomtom and go to WMP to change music, I just do it on my Bluetooth device.
However this isn't a perfect solution, as Bluetooth really takes a lot of memory

I looked into using an FM transmitter approach, but there are a lot of FM stations around where I drive, so finding a clear channel gets to be a pain. Also, I'm stupidly picky when it comes to audio quality, which is better using a wired solution rather than the FM solution. Looks like a good apprach though!

hey guys
I bought a £50 car stereo from Lidl
which has a usb port
superb
x

In most cases with FM Transmittors and it depends on the FM Transmittor, it usually dominates the FM Channel, so if you had it on say 104.1 in which in Australia is 104.1 Today FM as long as the Transmittor is nearby and close to your aerial it is all good!
But yeah, I feel that bluetooth and FM Transmission can cause quality lose in Audio, however sometimes I can't tell the difference, I have the USB to 3.5mm converter and I was dumb enough not to find the USB and 3.5mm unit, which was available at that time, but oh well, alls well ends well.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...item=160180673140&_trksid=p3984.cWON.m313.lVI
I bought this one and works great, it has everything I need, but when I connect it to my stereo, the music has no bass. Still have to figure that one out. Any ideas?
I have a small 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter, then connect that to one of those tapes with 3.5mm jack. It works great on my PSP, but with my phone the bass is gone. I have 1.23 with GPS and WM5. I have to try different player (Using WMP) and the HTC equalizer & audio manager.
Anyway, I love the setup, everything is together into a cool device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333607

Hey! Exactly the same setup I had with my old Magician! I had glued the 2,5mm jack to the Brodit holder, so it would connect power and audio at the same time. It was a treat to use!
However, now I have a Sony BT2500 Bluetooth car radio and don't need no connectors (besides USB power) any more.

landshark said:
3.) Best of all, I tried calling my girlfriend (while the Trinity was in the cradle, playing MP3's through my stereo), and a.) her side of the conversation came through my car speakers, with the music muted, and b.) she said she could hear me just fine (but a little loud), which tells me the Trinity continued to use the internal microphone and amplified my voice the same way it would when set on speakerphone!
Mike
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I have a similar configuration, on my alpine stereo.
Sound quality is great and everything works as you told.. very good but,
when i have a call, i can hear very well from my car speaker but the other side can't hear me my Trinity don't continue to use the internal microphone. I'm quite sure it's a trouble by audio jack to htc usb converter: every post i read i found only Y cables (audio and input power)... mine is 3 way: http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=7920
Or maybe a rom trouble? i'm using Bepe's 0.79 WM6...
does exist a cab file witch forces trinity to keep using internal microphone always??

i'm planning to buy a new radio with bluetooth audio streaming capabilities for my Trans Am.
probably this radio:
http://www.amazon.de/LG-MP3-CD-Tune...r_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1202059350&sr=8-1
Nice Price, Nice Functions, less Cable-Chaos....

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Integrating trinity with car

I am looking for a quick and easy way to integrate my trinity with my car.
Currently I have have a generic car mount with charger. However, I find that TomTom and telephone calls over the speakers are too quiet.
I was thinking of installing a Parrot MK6000 in my car as a method to stream audio from my trinity to the car stereo whilst also acting as a car kit for hands free use while driving. Has anybody had any experience with wiring up this kit? is it easy for a moderate level electronics users (able to solder wires proficiently etc.) to wire up?
Alternatively does anybody know of other solutions to integrate the trinity with the car stereo?
Hello:
I installed this hands free in my car, and it works really fine as a hands free. The audio streaming works well too, but the sound is quite methalic. With tomtom, there is a delay in the sound, the first word it says, for example "...Turn on the left in...." you listen "...urn on the left in ..." and it hanpens allways when tomtom starts to talk.
My OS version is wm5 and I read that wm6 solves this problem.
I recently bought a LG LAC7700R (carstereo with bluetooth and cd/mp3/wma player, with a seperate mic you can place somewhere in your car) works good, up to 5 phones can connect, last six called contacts it will remember. no phonebook in carstereo. Carstereo mutes automaticly by incoming call. You can even use BT audiostream.
i have always BT on, on my phone, it will connect by itself with the carstereo.
works fine for me.
now i am looking for a nice phoneholder with only a charger.
stormyb said:
I recently bought a LG LAC7700R (carstereo with bluetooth and cd/mp3/wma player, with a seperate mic you can place somewhere in your car) works good, up to 5 phones can connect, last six called contacts it will remember. no phonebook in carstereo. Carstereo mutes automaticly by incoming call. You can even use BT audiostream.
i have always BT on, on my phone, it will connect by itself with the carstereo.
works fine for me.
now i am looking for a nice phoneholder with only a charger.
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I have a similar setup, with the Sony MEX-BT2500 instead.
However I did not manage to route the Tomtom or iGO sound over the BT A2DP stream.
As a charging holder I have the Brodit Cradle installed.
esackbauer said:
I have a similar setup, with the Sony MEX-BT2500 instead.
However I did not manage to route the Tomtom or iGO sound over the BT A2DP stream.
As a charging holder I have the Brodit Cradle installed.
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check this, maybe it will help:
goto bt settings in your phone and activate bluetooth stereo on. that's the thing for play mp3's and navigationvoices over BT. The handsfree mode is for phone voice. (leave that on!)
does sony support a2dp ? maybe that's the problem.
stormyb said:
check this, maybe it will help:
goto bt settings in your phone and activate bluetooth stereo on. that's the thing for play mp3's and navigationvoices over BT. The handsfree mode is for phone voice. (leave that on!)
does sony support a2dp ? maybe that's the problem.
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Actually I bought the Sony because it supports A2DP. And with MortPlayer it works flawless when listening music. With activated Bluetooth Stereo (Headphone Symbol in top bar) Tomtom still uses the internal speaker.

Touch cruise as car mp3 base ?

I read about that new A2DP functionality for music so I got some interesting idea about turning my TC to a car mp3 player. My TC has 8gb so it's cool to have such amount of music in car without need to change discs or something.
There are new car cd players that support bluetooth, my question is how all this stuff works together ? Has anyone tried ? Is it comfortable at it's current state ? I mean will it connect automatically and will the cd player controls work to browse the music stored on TC or will I need to use the TC to navigate songs(less comfort while driving)... What about sound quality, is A2DP provides good sound ? What should I expect from such a setup ?
I would answer half of the question myself only If I would already have the bluetooth supported cd player, but my one doesn't support it :-( so I am thinking about a replacement and will it be worth or not.
I use my Tytyn2 for this purpose with a pioneer B65 Head unit. The quality is good enough for a car considering the background noise and far superior to using a FM transmitter. You will have to use the TC to control the tracks and the display on the head unit does not show track info.
Doesn't seems to be comfortable solution then... There is no interface that will allow head unit to control it ? :-((... Anyone else tried this ?
I use a Jabra BT320S to hear music in car using the line in of my head unit. Sound is good and obviously i have the TC to control the music. SOme programs have very finger friendly buttons. I'm very happy
This is the solution you are looking for.
Get a headunit with a USB port, such as this Kenwood. http://www.bassjunkies.com/index.php?pid=33470&show=expand_image
Install WM5torage on the PDA, and set it up so that the PDA appears as a mass storage device.
Plug the PDA into the headunit with a USB cable.
The headunit should now see the tracks in the memory card of the PDA.
Hope this helps.
WM5torage is not (currently) compatible with the Touch Cruise.
Hello,
since i'm an owner of an saxo vts, which is equal to say been roubed evey time. i just do not have normal player, i instead add amp. connected to the normal audio pre-installation.
Then a audio cable from the PDA to the input of the amp. this also means stereo no front back sound distribution.
i also thought about the bluetooth but then, i realize that with TomTom, phone call , plus blue streaming, the device was not power enough.
Ah since then no one broke in, why because there's actually nothing there to robe.
My Solution
X-Kent. I have been using bluetooth in my car for nearly a year now and it's definately the way forward. Forget plugging it in via USB!
My HU is a JVC BT-1.
First of all the quality of your A2DP can be configured using the 'Advance config' program (found on this forum). I also use a Sony bluetooth headphone receiver and at first my Orbit 2 sounded a bit...cheap! However by cranking up the sample rate to 48000, bit pool to 58 and the max bit pool to 80, it has increased the quality from a decent FM quality to CD quality. This is just in my experience and audio purists would argue otherwise. Nonetheless this applies to my reciever and my car BT.
Next is that if you use BT in your car you would change the tracks by using the phone NOT the head unit. But I think this is FAR better and safer. I have my phone mounted next to the wheel, and not only can I see what track is playing on my phone, I have big pause and next/back track buttons to press and I can even see the album art. Far better than the crappy text display you get on a head unit (unless you have a v.expensive one!) If you did use USB then it would put the track names on the HU and allow full control, but why when you can use the lovely phone touch functions.
Finally (this is where it comes into it's own). The BT-1 has a small mic that you can locate anywhere and you can make calls in the car without touching anything. The BT-1 allows voice dialling and you can speak to people thru your car. And because it's BT then you can have the phone in your pocket. The Headunit is intelligent enough to automatically pick up the phone when it's in range and link them together. No buttons required. If a call comes in and you're listening to music, the ring comes through the speakers of the car. You can then pick up and it pauses the music. When your conversation's done, the music starts up where you left off!
If you use Sat Nav, even if you're listening to music or having a convo, the voice instructions are also routed through your speakers.
Why use anything else other than bluetooth? Hope that helps
Jon

Advice needed on Bluetooth music to Hi-Fi.

Hi,
I have a HTC Touch which I am currently using the Pocket Player software to stream my music from my PC which is located upstairs. I can connect the Touch to my Stereo amplifier through a USB/Jack cable and play the music through my Hifi speakers rather than headphones but I was wondering if it would be possible for me to transmit the audio to my amplifier by way of Bluetooth. It would cerntainly allow me the freedom of changing tracks on my phone sitting in my armchair rather than sat next to my amplifier through a cable. I.E Streaming music from my PC through Wi-FI, via my HTC Touch through bluetooth.
Hope this makes sense. Has anyone done it and is there a noticible difference in sound quality when sending music by bluetooth rather than a wired connection.
I have seen various Bluetooth type devices on ebay and amazon that claim to do this type of thing but as I have never tried Bluetooth I am a little sceptical and not sure exactly what is required. I assume that as my Touch can send Bluetooth beam I would only need a reciever to connect the Jack plug from my amp, is this correct? Or would it be better to buy a jack transmitter/receiver for the job.
I don't want to spend a whole lot of money doing this just to test so can anyone recomend a device.
Thanks in advance for any help.
hi there,
i use this device:
http://www.itechdynamic.com/en/products_spec.asp?cid=6&pid=06020 it's by itech and it's called bluecon35. the picture shows the black unit but i have the white one =) the 3.5mm jack is connected to the aux plug of my amplifier. my stereo system combined with the speakers are then also connected. from there, the bluecon is paired via bluetooth to my x7500. this gives me the luxury of changing track, albums, volume, etc. basically all the music is streamed to my amplifier via the bluecon. with regards to the quality, i would say it's quite good. i don't hear "noise" or static in the background...nor are there jumps or pauses in the connection. everything is just fine except that i'm using a much better set of speakers as compared to headphones.
disadvantages:
- if you listen to your sounds like for 8 hours, then you could have a problem. the battery life of bluecon is around and doesn't have an external power source that allows it to play even when paired. i read that itech is planning to come out with a new similar bt device but this time it's also plugged to the wall socket or a car charger. no idea when that will be
- a minor detail is that if you receive a call, an sms or your phone has an alarm for an event then these sounds are streamed into the amplifier as well.
cost? i got it from thailand and it was for 2000 baht....that's around 63 usd (based on a 32baht to dollar exchange rate).
hope that helps
I use a pinnacle soundbridge, which cost under £50, and it plugs into your hi-fi and streams music from your pc over your wireless network. It can be controlled using the ir remote control, or your pda can access it over wi-fi to control it. As well as streaming from you pc, you can also use it to listen to internet radio.
Thanks for the advice guys. Robson, the Bluetooth receiver is a possibility however after googling it I found a couple of bad reviews. Some people seem to have a problem connecting their devices to it and others have said it has trouble with streaming MP3's over 192kbps. I will look into this further.
Jez83uk, the Pinnacle Soundbridge looks like a really good idea. Is it differcult to set up with a PDA and will it connect to my PC through a wireless router.
Also were would you recomend picking one up for under £50.
Cheers for all the help!
Mine was £39.99 at ebuyer.com, but looking around a few websites they seem to be out of stock everywhere, google products. I recommend keeping an eye on ebay if you're interested in getting one. I have mine connected through a wireless router, and setup was extremely easy. You need to run a media server- I use firefly, but I believe that itunes or windows media player 11 can do the same thing. PDA control is just a case of installing two cab files for a package called visualmr. Hope this helps you.
belkin tunestage 1 here
...was originally only advertised as working with the supplied dongle for earlier ipods, which is how i used to use it, but i discovered it works great with A2DP too. should be v cheap on ebay...

Bluetooth CAR radio with HTC TP

Did anyone try this? I'm thinking of buying a new radio WITH bluetooth..
IF the bluetooth radio stuff works, then tomtom/music could go via my HTC which would be awesome... or is it possible to play MP3's via an USB outlet, or have some auxout to my htc?
A few months ago, I bought a head unit (Dual XHD6425) that has front panel aux out, usb, and bluetooth. I originally got it for its 3.5 mm auxillary out for my ipod, but I then bought the add-on bluetooth module and started using my cellphone and now my Fuze. Bluetooth audio streaming (A2DP) is much more convenient as there are no wires to deal with. The TF3D music program supports AVRC so you can use the unit's fast fwd/rewind/stop buttons to control playback. Tomtom also routes its audio through the bluetooth interface as well. Of course, you also get hands-free calling, which is great as I usually forget to put on or turn on my bluetooth headset when I enter my car.
My head unit could also play music from USB sources (name hard drives, etc, but strangely not ipods). The unit was able to read from the Fuze since it can mount itself as a storage drive providing access to the microsd card. However, in this mode, I'd have to scroll through songs using the unit's interface, which was not very easy to navigate. Still, I can use the USB port to charge/power devices if I needed to do so.
^^^Ditto what he said^^^
My Xterra has a Pioneer single din headunit with built-in Bluetooth. A2DP streaming works great, but sometimes sounds a little tinny or washed-out. If you have added a subwoofer to your vehicle then get a headunit with an independent subwoofer level control. Some songs will be very bassy, while others will need some added punch...this can be adjusted very easily especially with a remote-mount bass level knob.
You can also sync your contacts over to the BT headunits and set speed dials as well as picture dials in some cases. My Pioneer replacement will be a double din 7" touchscreen dvd player with BT. Make sure it has plenty of audio controls/adjustments...digital time correction is a nice feature to help balance sound and set stage.

[Q] Audio to non A2DP headset

Hi,
I'm wondering if there is any way to stream audio music and/or FM radio from Windows Phone 7 (I have the HTC HD7) to a non A2DP Bluetooth headset (I have the Jabra EasyGO).
It seems that I can only make and receive calls with it.
I've searched all over the place (and web) and cannot find a way to do that.
The only way is to get a new Bluetooth headset with A2DP capability?
Is there is a workaround, please let me know.
Thanks.
I don't know of one. As far as I know, the Headset profile is mono-channel only (plus another channel for the mic) anyhow, and probably quite low bandwidth, so it would likely sound awful.
Thanks for your answer GoodDayToDie.
But I don't mind for quality... Actually I'm not interested to listen for audio.
I just want, for example, to hear drive directions when I'm driving using navigation software (Navigon) instead of hearing from the loudspeaker.
Hmm... I thought the phone *would* use Headset profile for driving directions. Weird. I find the WP7 implementation to be so bad that I prefer to keep using a 4-year-old Garmin Nuvi instead, but I could have sworn I tested it and it came over the BT (and my car only has Headset, not A2DP). Maybe poke around in Settings?
Alternatively, if your car has Aux In, you could use a ripping cable (double-ended headphone cord, they're very cheap) and then the phone will play instructions over the cable into the car's stereo. This is also a great way to use the phone's music player, including Zune Pass if you have it, to play music in the car (I do this all the time). It uses less battery than having Bluetooth transmitting constantly would anyhow.

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