Hi. I have an S5 16 GB. I am planning to flash other country's stock rom to solve the problem I'm having. But there is a problem. I have CWM recovery and the size for backup is too much. I don't have enough that space on my sdcard. Is there a way to backup to PC via CWM recovery? Or other way?
But, if you flash a stock firmware with Odin you change the recovery to the stock recovery so the backup will be useless
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The obvious thing to do, would be to free some space. However if you can't, you could try installing TWRP recovery, which compresses the backups so they don't take that much space. Also, if ik not mistaken (but I may be) cwm allows you to save the backup to your internal storage. So if you have more free space available on your device, than your SD card and cwm allows to save your backups to the internal memory (at least TWRP does) you could make a backup, then transfer it to your PC. Then flash whatever you want to flash, then reinstall cwm (because it will be replaced from stick recovery) and finally tranfer the backup back to your phone
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But, if you flash a stock firmware with Odin you change the recovery to the stock recovery so the backup will be useless
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But I can flash custom recovery even after flash a stock firmware right?
karasahin said:
But I can flash custom recovery even after flash a stock firmware right?
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Oh yes, but if you flash another country stock firmware the mount point changes probably, and I'm not sure that you can restore your backup
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giannism13 said:
The obvious thing to do, would be to free some space. However if you can't, you could try installing TWRP recovery, which compresses the backups so they don't take that much space.
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I might install TWRP too. I have one question though. Does it backup everything right? So I suppose I can backup musics, photos and videos to my PC and delete them from the phone after. These are probably taking the most space. Will it work this way?
Yes
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karasahin said:
I might install TWRP too. I have one question though. Does it backup everything right? So I suppose I can backup musics, photos and videos to my PC and delete them from the phone after. These are probably taking the most space. Will it work this way?
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No it doesn't backup photos and videos, but it is in every way better than cwm
giannism13 said:
No it doesn't backup photos and videos, but it is in every way better than cwm
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But he can makes a backup of the photo in the PC and after restore it
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joe2k01 said:
Oh yes, but if you flash another country stock firmware the mount point changes probably, and I'm not sure that you can restore your backup
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Understood. If flashing another country stock firmware solves my problem then I won't restore anything from my old firmware except musics, photos and videos. But if flashing another country stock firmware doesn't help to solve my problem either, then I could roll back to my old firmware and restore it. I think this will be OK. Of course I still need to find a way to backup to PC.
karasahin said:
Understood. If flashing another country stock firmware solves my problem then I won't restore anything from my old firmware except musics, photos and videos. But if flashing another country stock firmware doesn't help to solve my problem either, then I could roll back to my old firmware and restore it. I think this will be OK. Of course I still need to find a way to backup to PC.
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Read my first post again, I edited
For the data backup try to use adb
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giannism13 said:
Also, if ik not mistaken (but I may be) cwm allows you to save the backup to your internal storage. So if you have more free space available on your device, than your SD card and cwm allows to save your backups to the internal memory (at least TWRP does) you could make a backup, then transfer it to your PC. Then flash whatever you want to flash, then reinstall cwm (because it will be replaced from stick recovery) and finally tranfer the backup back to your phone
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OK, time to free some space then
joe2k01 said:
For the data backup try to use adb
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Does it work like Nandroid backup? I mean does it backup everything?
The adb backup will backups all your data (application, ecc..)
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The adb backup will backups all your data (application, ecc..)
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It looks like a bit complicated and some say it is like an experimental program for its backup feature.
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It looks like a bit complicated and some say it is like an experimental program for its backup feature.
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I use adb regularly and it's not difficult to use , it's a terminal tool, try it
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I use adb regularly and it's not difficult to use , it's a terminal tool, try it
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Any article links please that can ease my doing?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351 ,you can also visit the official page
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Flashing another country ROM didn't solve my problem either so I am going to use my old firmware.
I have a backup for my old firmware but I don't know how to proceed. Do I need to flash the old ROM first, and then recover via CWM recovery?
It's better if you first flash your stock firmware, then flash the CWM and finally flash the backup. You can do this only if your backup is in CWM backup format.
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Looking for a way to revert back to stock recovery i'm currently on 4.1.1 stock rom with twrp recovery installed is this possible i have searched the internet for it could find it also i don't not want to re flash the firmware again and lose everything
ryuken11221 said:
Looking for a way to revert back to stock recovery i'm currently on 4.1.1 stock rom with twrp recovery installed is this possible i have searched the internet for it could find it also i don't not want to re flash the firmware again and lose everything
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I have not been successful flashing stock recovery as a blob or img file; and yes I have tried.
I have always had to flash the complete firmware which means total loss of apps and data.
You could consider backing up your apps and data with many of the options available. Many swear by titanium backup. I don't use it. Maybe search for backup apps that also handle data.
I use app2zip pro or rom toolbox pro and just bite the bullet for any data lost.
Good Luck!
tobdaryl said:
I have not been successful flashing stock recovery as a blob or img file; and yes I have tried.
I have always had to flash the complete firmware which means total loss of apps and data.
You could consider backing up your apps and data with many of the options available. Many swear by titanium backup. I don't use it. Maybe search for backup apps that also handle data.
I use app2zip pro or rom toolbox pro and just bite the bullet for any data lost.
Good Luck!
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There still has to be a way to extract the recovery from it tho. I mean wouldn't it possible to do so we can flash things through fast boot can't we dump it through it
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ryuken11221 said:
There still has to be a way to extract the recovery from it tho. I mean wouldn't it possible to do so we can flash things through fast boot can't we dump it through it
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We can extract recovery and everything else using blobtools.
See post #14 in this thread.
Is it possible to return to stock without losing my data? My data really isn't that necessary, as I could make a TB backup and save it to the internal memory, but the main question is: Can I return to stock ROM without having to to wipe my internal memory?
absoluterebirth said:
Is it possible to return to stock without losing my data? My data really isn't that necessary, as I could make a TB backup and save it to the internal memory, but the main question is: Can I return to stock ROM without having to to wipe my internal memory?
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no. of course you can set it for google to restore your settings, and apps with settings, but your data will get wiped.
simms22 said:
no. of course you can set it for google to restore your settings, and apps with settings, but your data will get wiped.
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Alright, thanks
Yes you can. Just download the stock factory image and extract it. Then using adb (I hope you know how if not tell me and I'll try to explain) flash the recovery, system, and boot images. That will restore your stock ROM, kernel, and recovery. Just don't flash the userdata image and all your internal data on your "SD card" will be fine. All you have to do is restore your titanium backup apps and all their data will still be there and your pictures and everything will all be available.
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Yes you can. Just download the stock factory image and extract it. Then using adb (I hope you know how if not tell me and I'll try to explain) flash the recovery, system, and boot images. That will restore your stock ROM, kernel, and recovery. Just don't flash the userdata image and all your internal data on your "SD card" will be fine. All you have to do is restore your titanium backup apps and all their data will still be there and your pictures and everything will all be available.
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Provided your bootloader is unlocked
jd1639 said:
Provided your bootloader is unlocked
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Well his boot loader has to be unlocked to run a custom ROM.
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abdel12345 said:
Yes you can. Just download the stock factory image and extract it. Then using adb (I hope you know how if not tell me and I'll try to explain) flash the recovery, system, and boot images. That will restore your stock ROM, kernel, and recovery. Just don't flash the userdata image and all your internal data on your "SD card" will be fine. All you have to do is restore your titanium backup apps and all their data will still be there and your pictures and everything will all be available.
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Cool I was wondering this too as I made a nandroid when I first started but not sure I had all my apps set up yet. From here I would just reflash twrp and reroot, correct?
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ldubs said:
Cool I was wondering this too as I made a nandroid when I first started but not sure I had all my apps set up yet. From here I would just reflash twrp and reroot, correct?
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Yes but you'll still lose your apps just not the internal data so make sure you backup with titanium. It'll be like flashing a new ROM.
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I am new to rooting. I just rooted my mobile but don't know about recovery and rom. Please help me learn more about this field.
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skumar9296 said:
I am new to rooting. I just rooted my mobile but don't know about recovery and rom. Please help me learn more about this field.
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Got your back bro!
Xda's own learning wiki, here
recovery is basically a backup environment that you key combo into to perform repair tasks. (Full wipe, installing stuff, aroma file manager)
A rom is android of any sorts. Just like a regular Operating system on a full pc.
You typically install a rom from recovery using installer zips. (Its called flashing)
Flashing a rom is like installing Windows.
The developers here will make custom roms. Faster, better battery life, different theme, newer version of android, etc.
If I helped I would appreciate it a lot if you hit the thanks button.
In the future when you are working with android, you will use command line tools like adb(android debug bridge) and fastboot(bootloader tool)
to mess with android.
I have a tool in my signature that will prove to be helpful in the future if you run windows.
Need anymore info just pm me anytime.
Recovery is pre installed or we install it later
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Lgrootnoob said:
Got your back bro!
Xda's own learning wiki, here
recovery is basically a backup environment that you key combo into to perform repair tasks. (Full wipe, installing stuff, aroma file manager)
A rom is android of any sorts. Just like a regular Operating system on a full pc.
You typically install a rom from recovery using installer zips. (Its called flashing)
Flashing a rom is like installing Windows.
The developers here will make custom roms. Faster, better battery life, different theme, newer version of android, etc.
If I helped I would appreciate it a lot if you hit the thanks button.
In the future when you are working with android, you will use command line tools like adb(android debug bridge) and fastboot(bootloader tool)
to mess with android.
I have a tool in my signature that will prove to be helpful in the future if you run windows.
Need anymore info just pm me anytime.
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Recovery is pre installed or we install it later
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skumar9296 said:
Recovery is pre installed or we install it later
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Stock devices have the manufacturer's recovery preinstalled. But its worthless to us because utilizing it requires the keys to flash anything.
We later install recoverys that allow us to do more.
Example: Twrp, cwm , 4ext recovery etc.
Lgrootnoob said:
Stock devices have the manufacturer's recovery preinstalled. But its worthless to us because utilizing it requires the keys to flash anything.
We later install recoverys that allow us to do more.
Example: Twrp, cwm , 4ext recovery etc.
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Thnx bro
Lgrootnoob said:
Stock devices have the manufacturer's recovery preinstalled. But its worthless to us because utilizing it requires the keys to flash anything.
We later install recoverys that allow us to do more.
Example: Twrp, cwm , 4ext recovery etc.
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We use recovery just for flashing rom?
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skumar9296 said:
We use recovery just for flashing rom?
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No, Also for a full wipe of the device.
Also you can install Application/mod on recovery aswell.
and Make a backup if something went wrong.
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No, Also for a full wipe of the device.
Also you can install Application/mod on recovery aswell.
and Make a backup if something went wrong.
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Hey bro what is firmwere
skumar9296 said:
We use recovery just for flashing rom?
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Even fix what went wrong with the help of tools like the file manager and terminal in TWRP. Lets you remove or replace a file you changed or added. Most of these recoveries let you mount USB storage on a PC and use adb even when the device won't boot(ex: a mod or installed app soft bricked the device or caused boot loops(repeating parts of boot cycle infinitely to no end, never letting you boot into Android)). Even more useful if say you pull build.prop with adb, edit the bad lines with a code editor on your PC(or any text editor that follows UNiX standards for encoding. Not notepad!!!!). Then just push the edited file back to the device. Or being able to delete an offending app by hand. Just a couple examples of how it's not just about rolling back or starting over, but being able to actually fix an unbootable system and just carry on then experiment some more. Such possibilities can never be achieved with stock recoveries.
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skumar9296 said:
Hey bro what is firmwere
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Another word for ROM when used in Phone language.
Fantassy123 said:
Another word for ROM when used in Phone language.
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Hey bro which is the best recovery app and what is nandriod?
skumar9296 said:
Hey bro which is the best recovery app and what is nandriod?
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There isn't a recovery "app", It's just a Recovery, There are plenty of good Recoverys like : TWRP,4ext or CWM.
I Use CWM since i like that the most.
Nandroid is a full backup of the partitions on your device’s NAND flash (NAND actually stands for NOT AND,which in simple terms means an electronic gate). Basically a backup of your phones hard drive if you will... The Nandroid backup is a snapshot of your device (it means everything on your phone – your apps, data, your current ROM and even the kernel is backed up) at the time you do the back up. If you restore the back up, it changes your phone BACK to that state. You will need clockworkmod (CWM). So make sure prior to this you have CWM on your device.
I also prefer CWM especially for backing up phone encase of bricking phone when trying to install new roms in this case it comes in handy though the others are also great but personally haven't tried them
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There isn't a recovery "app", It's just a Recovery, There are plenty of good Recoverys like : TWRP,4ext or CWM.
I Use CWM since i like that the most.
Nandroid is a full backup of the partitions on your device’s NAND flash (NAND actually stands for NOT AND,which in simple terms means an electronic gate). Basically a backup of your phones hard drive if you will... The Nandroid backup is a snapshot of your device (it means everything on your phone – your apps, data, your current ROM and even the kernel is backed up) at the time you do the back up. If you restore the back up, it changes your phone BACK to that state. You will need clockworkmod (CWM). So make sure prior to this you have CWM on your device.
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can a bricked phone be recovered in which there is no recovery from stock recovery
skumar9296 said:
can a bricked phone be recovered in which there is no recovery from stock recovery
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Do you mean you don't have a Custom recovery? If yes : It depends on each phone, I don't really know much about the question, since i never had a bricked phone without a Custom recovery.
I think it's possible to Unbrick a Bricked phone without Customr recovery just search the internet and something will eventually pop up.
What is kernel?
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What is kernel?
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The kernel is basically the core of your Operating system.
Android devices use the Linux kernel, but it's not the exact same kernel other Linux-based operating systems use. There's a lot of Android specific code built in, and Google's Android kernel maintainers have their work cut out for them. OEMs have to contribute as well, because they need to develop hardware drivers for the parts they're using for the kernel version they're using. This is why it takes a while for independent Android developers and hackers to port new versions to older devices and get everything working. Drivers written to work with the Gingerbread kernel on a phone won't necessarily work with the Ice Cream Sandwich kernel. And that's important, because one of the kernel's main functions is to control the hardware. It's a whole lot of source code, with more options while building it than you can imagine, but in the end it's just the intermediary between the hardware and the software.
What is mod?
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What is mod?
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Something that will change your some parts of your system (Depends on which mod).
Hello
All XDA members
I have a problem that made me raise a question an that is an we know the name of a rom from a nanriod backup either on PC or on Andriod.??
Ideally PC would be good !!
Thanks
Most ( not all) recovery apps let you name the file. Are you asking how to find the file? If so, it likely is in a folder named backups. You can move the file to your pc and keep it there if you are out of storage space.
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stevens243 said:
Most ( not all) recovery apps let you name the file. Are you asking how to find the file? If so, it likely is in a folder named backups. You can move the file to your pc and keep it there if you are out of storage space.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear please consider the following situation :
I have around 12 backups of different roms and I dont want to restore each n every backup for sake of simple file or simple thing. So any tool which can read the name of Rom? Probably the buildprop or about phone info will help
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Well, if you gave a single boot system, your recovery should "see" all of those files. If so, you can usb them or copy to a sd card and move them. Just move them back when you need to.
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Can someone explain nandroid backup to me? Does it mean I can make a backup my current rom and save it? Sorry for the dumb question.
Yep
TPS_Reports said:
Can someone explain nandroid backup to me? Does it mean I can make a backup my current rom and save it? Sorry for the dumb question.
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Simply,it is a backup of your OS and settings. It is extremely valuable if you flash a new ROM that doesn't/won't function. Then, you can use your recovery to, well, recover your previous WORKING OS.
When/if you begin to flash new ROMs (and other tools that may corrupt your OS) you should always.first.backup.your.files.
Can I assume I would need to wipe data/factory reset, etc. before I restore the backup?
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No assumptions
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Can I assume I would need to wipe data/factory reset, etc. before I restore the backup?
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So, that depends on what your starting config is, what you upgraded to.
For instance, if you are stock and flash a ROM using the stock recovery, then likely yes. You should and you would use the stock bootloader to wipe with.
If you have loaded a new recovery (TWRP, CWM) then read(!) the instructions on the developers page. My example is that on my tablet, once I upgraded to TWRP, I SHOULD NOT use the factory wipe option as that would wipe both TWRP and the backup files. That would cause lots of problems so, don't assume.
Typically, you do need to data/reset/wipe prior to flashing a new or recovering to an old ROM, just be careful what/how you do it.
I have a CWM recovery installed and installed custom Rome before. I have always redid everything again. So a backup would save me a lot of time.
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I have a CWM recovery installed and installed custom Rome before. I have always redid everything again. So a backup would save me a lot of time.
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Then, unless the ROM developer states otherwise, you should make backups, wipe data, install ROMs and recover your device using the Nandroid backup.
You likely shouldn't use the "factory" wipe data as that would cause issues.
Larry
So forgive the noobishness here. I own a Samsung SM-A500H. Basically, I rooted it using Kingroot which worked out fine. Then I flashed a TWRP 3.0.0-1 file using flashify (flashed recovery). The phone rebooted, and I got to the TWRP recovery. So naturally I wanted to reboot my device normally, but it wouldn't do it. It kept rebooting into TWRP recovery. After about 30 tries I gave up and decided to flash the original ROM using Odin. Before I did however, I backed up my Data on my external SD card. The backup files are now present in my SD card.
I want to restore that backup. But with no functioning TWRP recovery so far for my device, can I do it through any other method? Thanks.
After get back to stock
Install titanium backup
Titanium backup is able to restore from Cwm and twrp make sure u have rooted
Give a thanks if i helped u
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Fadzz said:
So forgive the noobishness here. I own a Samsung SM-A500H. Basically, I rooted it using Kingroot which worked out fine. Then I flashed a TWRP 3.0.0-1 file using flashify (flashed recovery). The phone rebooted, and I got to the TWRP recovery. So naturally I wanted to reboot my device normally, but it wouldn't do it. It kept rebooting into TWRP recovery. After about 30 tries I gave up and decided to flash the original ROM using Odin. Before I did however, I backed up my Data on my external SD card. The backup files are now present in my SD card.
I want to restore that backup. But with no functioning TWRP recovery so far for my device, can I do it through any other method? Thanks.
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If you are able to access the phone , there a about zillion apps to restore files from EXT SD card.
If you are not able to access the phone, try ADB sideload.
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After get back to stock
Install titanium backup
Titanium backup is able to restore from Cwm and twrp make sure u have rooted
Give a thanks if i helped u
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Thanks a lot man. It worked.
Close this thread by giving a resolved tag
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