I am new to rooting. I just rooted my mobile but don't know about recovery and rom. Please help me learn more about this field.
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skumar9296 said:
I am new to rooting. I just rooted my mobile but don't know about recovery and rom. Please help me learn more about this field.
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Got your back bro!
Xda's own learning wiki, here
recovery is basically a backup environment that you key combo into to perform repair tasks. (Full wipe, installing stuff, aroma file manager)
A rom is android of any sorts. Just like a regular Operating system on a full pc.
You typically install a rom from recovery using installer zips. (Its called flashing)
Flashing a rom is like installing Windows.
The developers here will make custom roms. Faster, better battery life, different theme, newer version of android, etc.
If I helped I would appreciate it a lot if you hit the thanks button.
In the future when you are working with android, you will use command line tools like adb(android debug bridge) and fastboot(bootloader tool)
to mess with android.
I have a tool in my signature that will prove to be helpful in the future if you run windows.
Need anymore info just pm me anytime.
Recovery is pre installed or we install it later
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Lgrootnoob said:
Got your back bro!
Xda's own learning wiki, here
recovery is basically a backup environment that you key combo into to perform repair tasks. (Full wipe, installing stuff, aroma file manager)
A rom is android of any sorts. Just like a regular Operating system on a full pc.
You typically install a rom from recovery using installer zips. (Its called flashing)
Flashing a rom is like installing Windows.
The developers here will make custom roms. Faster, better battery life, different theme, newer version of android, etc.
If I helped I would appreciate it a lot if you hit the thanks button.
In the future when you are working with android, you will use command line tools like adb(android debug bridge) and fastboot(bootloader tool)
to mess with android.
I have a tool in my signature that will prove to be helpful in the future if you run windows.
Need anymore info just pm me anytime.
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Recovery is pre installed or we install it later
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skumar9296 said:
Recovery is pre installed or we install it later
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Stock devices have the manufacturer's recovery preinstalled. But its worthless to us because utilizing it requires the keys to flash anything.
We later install recoverys that allow us to do more.
Example: Twrp, cwm , 4ext recovery etc.
Lgrootnoob said:
Stock devices have the manufacturer's recovery preinstalled. But its worthless to us because utilizing it requires the keys to flash anything.
We later install recoverys that allow us to do more.
Example: Twrp, cwm , 4ext recovery etc.
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Thnx bro
Lgrootnoob said:
Stock devices have the manufacturer's recovery preinstalled. But its worthless to us because utilizing it requires the keys to flash anything.
We later install recoverys that allow us to do more.
Example: Twrp, cwm , 4ext recovery etc.
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We use recovery just for flashing rom?
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skumar9296 said:
We use recovery just for flashing rom?
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No, Also for a full wipe of the device.
Also you can install Application/mod on recovery aswell.
and Make a backup if something went wrong.
Fantassy123 said:
No, Also for a full wipe of the device.
Also you can install Application/mod on recovery aswell.
and Make a backup if something went wrong.
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Hey bro what is firmwere
skumar9296 said:
We use recovery just for flashing rom?
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Even fix what went wrong with the help of tools like the file manager and terminal in TWRP. Lets you remove or replace a file you changed or added. Most of these recoveries let you mount USB storage on a PC and use adb even when the device won't boot(ex: a mod or installed app soft bricked the device or caused boot loops(repeating parts of boot cycle infinitely to no end, never letting you boot into Android)). Even more useful if say you pull build.prop with adb, edit the bad lines with a code editor on your PC(or any text editor that follows UNiX standards for encoding. Not notepad!!!!). Then just push the edited file back to the device. Or being able to delete an offending app by hand. Just a couple examples of how it's not just about rolling back or starting over, but being able to actually fix an unbootable system and just carry on then experiment some more. Such possibilities can never be achieved with stock recoveries.
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skumar9296 said:
Hey bro what is firmwere
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Another word for ROM when used in Phone language.
Fantassy123 said:
Another word for ROM when used in Phone language.
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Hey bro which is the best recovery app and what is nandriod?
skumar9296 said:
Hey bro which is the best recovery app and what is nandriod?
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There isn't a recovery "app", It's just a Recovery, There are plenty of good Recoverys like : TWRP,4ext or CWM.
I Use CWM since i like that the most.
Nandroid is a full backup of the partitions on your device’s NAND flash (NAND actually stands for NOT AND,which in simple terms means an electronic gate). Basically a backup of your phones hard drive if you will... The Nandroid backup is a snapshot of your device (it means everything on your phone – your apps, data, your current ROM and even the kernel is backed up) at the time you do the back up. If you restore the back up, it changes your phone BACK to that state. You will need clockworkmod (CWM). So make sure prior to this you have CWM on your device.
I also prefer CWM especially for backing up phone encase of bricking phone when trying to install new roms in this case it comes in handy though the others are also great but personally haven't tried them
Fantassy123 said:
There isn't a recovery "app", It's just a Recovery, There are plenty of good Recoverys like : TWRP,4ext or CWM.
I Use CWM since i like that the most.
Nandroid is a full backup of the partitions on your device’s NAND flash (NAND actually stands for NOT AND,which in simple terms means an electronic gate). Basically a backup of your phones hard drive if you will... The Nandroid backup is a snapshot of your device (it means everything on your phone – your apps, data, your current ROM and even the kernel is backed up) at the time you do the back up. If you restore the back up, it changes your phone BACK to that state. You will need clockworkmod (CWM). So make sure prior to this you have CWM on your device.
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can a bricked phone be recovered in which there is no recovery from stock recovery
skumar9296 said:
can a bricked phone be recovered in which there is no recovery from stock recovery
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Do you mean you don't have a Custom recovery? If yes : It depends on each phone, I don't really know much about the question, since i never had a bricked phone without a Custom recovery.
I think it's possible to Unbrick a Bricked phone without Customr recovery just search the internet and something will eventually pop up.
What is kernel?
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What is kernel?
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The kernel is basically the core of your Operating system.
Android devices use the Linux kernel, but it's not the exact same kernel other Linux-based operating systems use. There's a lot of Android specific code built in, and Google's Android kernel maintainers have their work cut out for them. OEMs have to contribute as well, because they need to develop hardware drivers for the parts they're using for the kernel version they're using. This is why it takes a while for independent Android developers and hackers to port new versions to older devices and get everything working. Drivers written to work with the Gingerbread kernel on a phone won't necessarily work with the Ice Cream Sandwich kernel. And that's important, because one of the kernel's main functions is to control the hardware. It's a whole lot of source code, with more options while building it than you can imagine, but in the end it's just the intermediary between the hardware and the software.
What is mod?
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What is mod?
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Something that will change your some parts of your system (Depends on which mod).
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Hey guys..
I just today rooted my lovely Nexus S, 9023 or what its called (non branded or nothing)
But i cant load recovery.. went fine when i rooted it, but now that i want to load an custom rom it fails.. i followed this guide to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883032
Anyone have some ideas??
I just get a android logo and triangle + ! in it.. as error.. (
Best regrads
n0ta
Just tested with ROM Mananger, it can backup just fine.. as soon i choose a ROM to install it loads recovery and fails, just like when you do it manually.
n0ta said:
Just tested with ROM Mananger, it can backup just fine.. as soon i choose a ROM to install it loads recovery and fails, just like when you do it manually.
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Sounds like stock recovery installed itself. If you are rooted remove/rename /etc/install-recovery.sh then reflash cwm manually or through rom manager.
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I have had this happen on my NS4G. I know they are a little different, but it seems like you are having the same thing happen that I did and to solve it, I open Windows command prompt(or terminal depending on you OS) and fastboot flash recovery (insert recovery.img name here) and reflashed the recovery partition with clockwork. Very easy fix. Just make sure you boot straight into recovery after flashing and flash the Rom you want to flash before booting back into stock(also make a nandroid before that). After that you shouldn't have any more problems unless you unroot. There must be a small glitch somewhere when flashing the clockwork doesn't fully erase stock recovery partition.
krohnjw said:
Sounds like stock recovery installed itself. If you are rooted remove/rename /etc/install-recovery.sh then reflash cwm manually or through rom manager.
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Works now thanks all to both of you.
n0ta said:
Works now thanks all to both of you.
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Pretty common lately...Android for Nexus S recovers its recovery if it is changes...
"You dawg, we heard you like recovering your recoveries, so we made recovery recover in recovery." and all that...
bender_123 said:
Pretty common lately...Android for Nexus S recovers its recovery if it is changes...
"You dawg, we heard you like recovering your recoveries, so we made recovery recover in recovery." and all that...
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The Nexus one did the same thing. Most OTAs verify / replace this file. It's easy enough to deal with if you're unlocked and rooted.
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This is about the third or fourth time this question has come up over the past week...
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This is about the third or fourth time this question has come up over the past week...
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I assure you it won't be the last.
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Ok everyone. Horrible question I know but here goes. I want to be right so please excuse a question I am sure has been asked many many times.
Situational info:
HTC one s s4 boot loader 1.06
No regular PC access.
Extensive knowledge and experience rooting and flashing G1 and G2X
Goal: unlock boot loader and open root access to enable flashing of roms via recovery while remaining PC independent
Steps I plan to execute:
1) unlock bootloader on htcdev site
2)grant root access following instructions(or all in one tool - your input here is appreciated)
3)instal CWM
4)download rom and kernel of choice
5) boot into boot loader, enter recovery, wipe, flash, boot
If I have any of this wrong please advise.
Again I apologize for the redundancy of this thread. Mods please delete after my process is verified to keep board clean. I only have one crack at this (PC access extremely limited) and I want to get it right.
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Looks correct. First install HTC drivers & HTC Sync software (in order to unlock bootloader, I believe HTCdev site will instruct this).
I recommend (as well as many others, I believe) TWRP over CWM. ESPECIALLY if you do not have computer access. The 1S does not have S-OFF, which makes it very hard for us to flash kernels & radios. Well, not hard, but you need a PC if using CWM. Using TWRP, you can usually flash these things from your device. So definitely use TWRP for your situation.
You can't root without a PC. It's impossible. You are required to get a token that you can only get from a command prompt on the computer. Sorry, but you're out of luck. But when/if you get a PC the steps you wrote were mostly right
1) Correct
2) FLASH RECOVERY (use TWRP, CWM is not good on this device)
3) Then root by flashing a SuperSU zip in RECOVERY (that's why #2 and #2 are switched)
4) Yep
5) Always always always BACKUP YOUR ROM. Then wipe system, data, cache, and dalvik cache. then flash the ROM. If you have extra time you should fastboot your kernel if your hboot is below 1.13 (meaning 1.13 is NOT able to flash the kernel.)
Hope I helped. If I did press thanks
OP did mention that he will have limited PC access to perform the unlock process, so he will be able to do it initially.
Here's the link for TWRP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677670 (make sure to use this one, the other link in the forums is for the S3 processor)
Ok so I can flash recovery as soon as I unlock boot loader and use twrp check.
The supersu, that's just a zip to flash in recovery to grant root access?
What is fasbooting kernel?
Thanks guys, appreciate the help. Will be performing this within the next two hours. Just trying to be ready so it goes off smooth. Once I get this done I need to do my friend's G2(condition for PC time lol)
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TWRP is a recovery. You will use that instead of CWM, not in addition to.
If you're going to flash a custom rom then you don't have to worry about rooting first. The rom will be rooted already.
Fastbooting kernel is a method of using a pc + command prompt to flash the kernel on your phone. Because HTC hasn't completely "unlocked" the 1S, we need workarounds like that to do certain things. However. TWRP will allow you to flash most things, including most kernels. If you use TWRP and yout hboot is low (which yours is) you shouldn't have too many issues.
Brief note here, I won't have adb access on this pc....will I be able to flash twrp without adb? I see there is an app in the market for it but seems to require root first. Thanks again for the input
Also, downloaded roms and kernels will need to reside on my SD card. This will become an issue if pre install format/wipe kills my SD card. Please advise. Roms and kernels will need to always be installed from SD card via recovery
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briandresstoyota said:
Brief note here, I won't have adb access on this pc....will I be able to flash twrp without adb? I see there is an app in the market for it but seems to require root first. Thanks again for the input
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You need adb access. That's how you flash recovery, using command prompt on the PC.
Not sure about this app, what's the name of it? To my knowledge you need adb to flash recovery on this phone.
If this isn't possible, you will still be able to root, just not have a custom recovery or flash roms. I don't believe you need to unlock the bootloader to root...not 100% sure but I believe you can root without it, which should be pretty simple.
On twrp website there is an option to install recovery via an app called goomanager. In the app store goo manager states root required. Should I revise my steps to this:
1)unlock bl
2) root using supersu img
3)goomanager install twrp
4)use twrp to flash roms and kernels
I would really love to avoid flashing radios btw. I just feel like it might be safer to let it be. Radios always made me nervous on previous devices
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You could download goo manager from the play store then install open recovery script from menu..then flash the SuperSU zip. You wouldn't require ADB then.
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You could download goo manager from the play store then install open recovery script from menu..then flash the SuperSU zip. You wouldn't require ADB then.
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This is correct. I forgot about goomanager.
As for the radios, there isn't really too much risk on the 1S. I remember it was always a scary issue on the HD2 because of EU vs. US radios, which could cause a brick. On the 1S you can flash EU radios with no prob. Actually, some people report better performance in the US with EU radio. So yeah, don't be worried about it, it's pretty safe on this device - with normal precautions and proper flashing of course.
HOWEVER:
Make sure to only use S4 radios/roms on S4 processor. There is an S3 version of the 1S as well, and you cannot switch any roms/kernels/radios between the two.
Hey hey!!! Made it work. Flashed aokp. Running sooooo amazing. Anyone know how to make home screen and app store rotate?
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Can't make home screen. But turn on auto-rotate in settings and it should rotate the store.
So I am a happy rooted owner. No sound in music apps or YouTube.
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Soo started with aokp then cm10. No sound on either except in power amp. So weird
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Try flashing official CM10
http://get.cm/?device=ville
If you prefer a stock look try TrickDroid or Viper
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Actually flashed most recent cm10 nightly after my go with AOKP. Still no dice. I've posted the issue on both ROM dev forums so hopefully it will get resolved. I feel like it is operator error but I have flashed each ROM twice with a full wipe before each install. I understand the process for flashing so I hope its something small I missed.
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briandresstoyota said:
Actually flashed most recent cm10 nightly after my go with AOKP. Still no dice. I've posted the issue on both ROM dev forums so hopefully it will get resolved. I feel like it is operator error but I have flashed each ROM twice with a full wipe before each install. I understand the process for flashing so I hope its something small I missed.
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Do you have no sound from the speaker or do you have headphones or something plugged in?
I rooted my S3. I have not unlocked it.
I would like to backup the android operating system, the apps, and the data before I allow the recent OTA update.
Based on my research, I believe I can use titanium to backup everything except the operating system. How do I backup the operating system?
I tried the Volume Up/Power/Home Button restart. It gives me the option to restore but not to backup.
What am I missing??
chinook9 said:
I rooted my S3. I have not unlocked it.
I would like to backup the android operating system, the apps, and the data before I allow the recent OTA update.
Based on my research, I believe I can use titanium to backup everything except the operating system. How do I backup the operating system?
I tried the Volume Up/Power/Home Button restart. It gives me the option to restore but not to backup.
What am I missing??
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Have to install a custom recovery.
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Have to install a custom recovery.
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prdog1
Thank you for the speedy reply. I did a quick search and found quite a bit written on installing a custom recovery including on the S3.
It appears that I can only back up to a custom ROM such as ClockworkMod Recovery or TWRP Recovery and not the base ROM as it is on the phone now. Is that correct?
I have ROM manager on the phone so I expect the ClockworkMod Recovery would be the way to go.
Nope, CWM and TWRP are custom recoveries. You'll have to install one of those in order to backup. Go onto the app store and search for EZ Recovery. Use that app to install the recoveries(it's the easiest way for someone new). Then you just boot into your recovery and do a backup of your current setup.
Download EZ Recovery and flash CWM then boot into recovery and choose the backup option.
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Custom recovery will backup stock rom. You will not be able to install any OTA until untill you Odin back to stock.
Thank you for the replies.
I guess I should have included in the initial post that all I have done is root the phone......I think.
I never unlocked the phone with Ez-Unlocker
I never used Rom-Manager either.
I did install SD Speed Increase and increased the SD cache size from 128kb to 1024 kb.
Thats it.
Does this information change the previous recommendations?
No, just install EZ Recovery and follow the directions listed in one of the guides in the stickies.
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chinook9 said:
Thank you for the replies.
I guess I should have included in the initial post that all I have done is root the phone......I think.
I never unlocked the phone with Ez-Unlocker
I never used Rom-Manager either.
I did install SD Speed Increase and increased the SD cache size from 128kb to 1024 kb.
Thats it.
Does this information change the previous recommendations?
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Yes, if you have a custom recovery you cannot accept an OTA. The install will fail. You will have to Odin back to stock in order to take the OTA.
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Thank you for the input.
There is a lot of information on this topic but its not easy to determine which of it applies to my situation. I feel pretty good about being able to Odin back to stock but I'm not sure I want to take the risk of doing that (probably not much risk) just to get the latest update.
I expect the best thing for me to do is decide to either 1) go ahead and install CM10 (I think that's the one I would want) or 2) go back to stock and stick with the Verizon software. I'd like to get Jelly Bean now, but I'm not sure its worth the risk. We'll see.
Thanks again!
If u use ez recovery and flash back the stock recovery u can then accept the ota just fine. As long as u haven't messed with any system files you are good. Then just re root it once ota is done.
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If u use ez recovery and flash back the stock recovery u can then accept the ota just fine. As long as u haven't messed with any system files you are good. Then just re root it once ota is done.
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Thanks for the info.
I have installed EZRecovery and it seems pretty straightforward. I'm still trying to decide if I want to go for a Jelly Bean ROM now or just wait.
I'll just keep reading until I'm comfortable that first, Jelly Bean will give me improvements worth the risk, and second, I won't brick the phone.
I have been fooling with computers since the 70s but Android is somewhat different and it will take a while to learn something about the architecture.
Thanks again.
chinook9 said:
Thanks for the info.
I have installed EZRecovery and it seems pretty straightforward. I'm still trying to decide if I want to go for a Jelly Bean ROM now or just wait.
I'll just keep reading until I'm comfortable that first, Jelly Bean will give me improvements worth the risk, and second, I won't brick the phone.
I have been fooling with computers since the 70s but Android is somewhat different and it will take a while to learn something about the architecture.
Thanks again.
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If new I would flash an ICS rom first and get you a stable daily driver setup and backed up. Regardless of what you read all JB builds are buggy to an extent since they are all ports. The advantage of Android is as long as you have a stable Nandroid you can experiment with more advanced ports. Backup IEMI also and be careful jumping back and forth between AOSP and TW based roms. This is where the most problems come up. From what I've seen if flashed AOSP base it is best to Odin back to stock before going back to Touchwiz.
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Download EZ Recovery and flash CWM then boot into recovery and choose the backup option.
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Or Twrp
I prefer twrp as it will allow you to name the backup from within recovery as well as some things cwm doesnt do.
what is the diffrence between twrp and clockworkmod? ever since i started rooting and flashing all ive known is clockworkmod....but it wont work with some of my apps like rom toolbox to flash roms....its telling me to use twrp......whats the diffrence though? i tried twrp touch once and it bricked my phone......so what is the diffrence? which one is better? should i get it? is there any risk on roms not being flashable with twrp? if so can i get the latest link and how to? i realize these might all be opinions but would really like to hear what you all have to say...thanks
I've never used an app to flash a Rom. I prefer to go to recovery myself, so I know what gets wiped. I've tried twrp a couple times before, but my phone didn't play nice with it, and it would refuse to boot, telling me there was no recovery or boot img loaded.
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I've never used an app to flash a Rom. I prefer to go to recovery myself, so I know what gets wiped. I've tried twrp a couple times before, but my phone didn't play nice with it, and it would refuse to boot, telling me there was no recovery or boot img loaded.
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Crap Installed twrp and haven't used it but after what you said I'm scared to.....anyway to go back to cwm?
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Flash it thru fastboot or use the app "flash image gui" it is a paid app on the market, but has also been offered here on xda by the dev for free. I haven't used the app in awhile, but it worked for me back on ics when I used it last.
If you use fastboot it's fastboot flash recovery recovery.img just make sure to use the actual recovery img file name instead of "recovery.img" at the end
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mcluvin1065 said:
Crap Installed twrp and haven't used it but after what you said I'm scared to.....anyway to go back to cwm?
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Use this guide
I use twrp and have for months. If your phone got bricked you probably did something wrong. Most likely flashed the wrong image. Use the goomanager app from the market to install the twrp. Open the app press menu and select install open recovery script option. Works like a charm.
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Yea i love twerps ui. It is slick. And all the features are awesome.
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They are just both recoveries that you can use on your device. TWRP is based on the stock recovery and is all touch compatible whereas ClockWorkMod or CWM for short is a recovery where it does all the same features but some features of it are not available whereas in TWRP they are and vise versa. I use TWRP and I personally think that it is better than CWM any day. Yes like you I started of knowing only what CWM is but then I researched and found TWRP. I used TWRP ever since.
Although there are some disadvantages and Advantages of the both.
ClockworkMod:
The Advantages of CWM is that the backups are all in a way "linked" together. This means if you have the app swype for example and you backed that rom up that has Swype, and then made another backup of another ROM but with the same app Swype CWM recognizes that and uses the apk from the previous backup on the new one. So according to me it makes the backup faster.
Also there is a feature which is Fixing Permissions. TWRP has Fixing Permissions but it is not really that well made. With the Fixing Permissions it lets you fix apps that stop or like crash when you try and launch them. That helps when you flash a custom ROM and when you boot you get all these errors like "YouTube has stopped".
TWRP:
The advantages of TWRP is that it is all touch compatible and all "open source" in a way. I'm not sure about CWM but in TWRP you can customize it very easily if you know XML, with CWM I don't know. With TWRP it uses less data or memory on your SD card so it saves space on your internal storage which is a bonus.
Anything else I find about the advantages about the 2 I will post here in this post.
UselessSniper001 said:
They are just both recoveries that you can use on your device. TWRP is based on the stock recovery and is all touch compatible whereas ClockWorkMod or CWM for short is a recovery where it does all the same features but some features of it are not available whereas in TWRP they are and vise versa. I use TWRP and I personally think that it is better than CWM any day. Yes like you I started of knowing only what CWM is but then I researched and found TWRP. I used TWRP ever since.
Although there are some disadvantages and Advantages of the both.
ClockworkMod:
The Advantages of CWM is that the backups are all in a way "linked" together. This means if you have the app swype for example and you backed that rom up that has Swype, and then made another backup of another ROM but with the same app Swype CWM recognizes that and uses the apk from the previous backup on the new one. So according to me it makes the backup faster.
Also there is a feature which is Fixing Permissions. TWRP has Fixing Permissions but it is not really that well made. With the Fixing Permissions it lets you fix apps that stop or like crash when you try and launch them. That helps when you flash a custom ROM and when you boot you get all these errors like "YouTube has stopped".
TWRP:
The advantages of TWRP is that it is all touch compatible and all "open source" in a way. I'm not sure about CWM but in TWRP you can customize it very easily if you know XML, with CWM I don't know. With TWRP it uses less data or memory on your SD card so it saves space on your internal storage which is a bonus.
Anything else I find about the advantages about the 2 I will post here in this post.
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Last CWMR touch 6.0.1.0 !
FULLY WORKING!
Flashable zip!
http://db.tt/vBx3A1UF
OK yesterday I rooted my nexus 5 using chain fire. I then installed the ROM manger app to install CWM. Does this mean I can now flash ROMs or zip files (eg. Beats audio) straight away or am I missing steps.
Sorry and thank you in advanced
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You need to head to CWM recovery and then flash the rom.zip files...
Make sure you do a complete wipe before installing a new rom...
dec1153 said:
OK yesterday I rooted my nexus 5 using chain fire. I then installed the ROM manger app to install CWM. Does this mean I can now flash ROMs or zip files (eg. Beats audio) straight away or am I missing steps.
Sorry and thank you in advanced
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Dude, uninstall Rom Manager asap and never use it again, this has always been a terrible app and now its real terrible. Flash a custom recovery with Flashify (Play) or in fastboot (fastboot flash recovery namerecovery.img). Rom Manger is not a solution but a problem.
Sorry I don't understand!!! I have been using CWM for a very long time. I am just asking now that I am able to flash ROMs?
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dec1153 said:
Sorry I don't understand!!! I have been using CWM for a very long time. I am just asking now that I am able to flash ROMs?
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Rom Manager is unstable and buggy mate, if you have a working recovery then you`re lucky. Make sure to backup your current rom before you start flashing and backup your EFS folder and store it on the PC to be sure.
gee2012 said:
Rom Manager is unstable and buggy mate, if you have a working recovery then you`re lucky. Make sure to backup your current rom before you start flashing and backup your EFS folder and store it on the PC to be sure.
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I have done a nandroid backup through CWM which functiond fine. Thanks anyways. One question, after root my nexus 5 is a tad slower. Is it possible to turn ART on while rooted because I heard people are getting bootloops when they do this.
Thanks
dec1153 said:
I have done a nandroid backup through CWM which functiond fine. Thanks anyways. One question, after root my nexus 5 is a tad slower. Is it possible to turn ART on while rooted because I heard people are getting bootloops when they do this.
Thanks
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ART is still experimental atm and some apps are not optimized for it yet. That can cause bootloops in some cases. If that should happen restore the backup.
dec1153 said:
... Thanks anyways...
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Dude, @gee2012 is just trying to help, and is right about RM. I used it back in the day on my Nexus One running CM before there were any alternatives. Over time, RM got wonkier and wonkier, ending up an app that is best avoided. I recommend that you take the advice of a recognized contributer, and don't continue to be loyal to a has-been app that could bork your system.
PS. Welcome to the forum!
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Dude, @gee2012 is just trying to help, and is right about RM. I used it back in the day on my Nexus One running CM before there were any alternatives. Over time, RM got wonkier and wonkier, ending up an app that is best avoided. I recommend that you take the advice of a recognized contributer, and don't continue to be loyal to a has-been app that could bork your system.
PS. Welcome to the forum!
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Hi I only used ROM manger to install CWM. I don't plan to use it for anything else. I plan to boot into CWM and flash a .zip from there. Is this not safe?
dec1153 said:
Hi I only used ROM manger to install CWM. I don't plan to use it for anything else. I plan to boot into CWM and flash a .zip from there. Is this not safe?
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Sure it is. I was talking about Rom Manager, please don`t ever use it again. Just for your sake mate.
Everything said about Rom Manager is 100% correct; it's long been known to brick some phones, due to the recovery files it lists not being compatible with a lot of devices (and poorly defined).
Great advice, @PhilipTD and @gee2012.
Haha OK. I just like CWM so I used it to install it. How do I boot into CWM without using the app? So I can delete ROM manger after
dec1153 said:
... my nexus 5 is a tad slower. Is it possible to turn ART on...
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Further to @gee2012's response, rather than switch to ART, and thereby forego the use of Xposed, check out the optimized Dalvik library.
dec1153 said:
Haha OK. I just like CWM so I used it to install it. How do I boot into CWM without using the app? So I can delete ROM manger after
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Download it from here https://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager and flash in fastboot or with Flashify (Google Play.)
PhilipTD said:
Further to @gee2012's response, rather than switch to ART, and thereby forego the use of Xposed, check out the optimized Dalvik library.
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I don't need closed framework. So uninstalling and then switching ART should work? I'm scared it will go into a bootloop!
You might like Philz, btw. (With a nod to @rootSU)
dec1153 said:
I don't need closed framework. So uninstalling and then switching ART should work? I'm scared it will go into a bootloop!
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You might want to read the first 5 threads in the General section well, this will give you the basics knowledge you need to not to brick your phone
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Download it from here https://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager and flash in fastboot or with Flashify (Google Play.)
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I already have CWM installed? Do I have to install it again? If so can you take me on a step by step guide, I'm a utter noon! Thanks
So step 1) download ROM manger
Then.....
dec1153 said:
... can you take me on a step by step guide...
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Wouldn't you rather learn it yourself? It's so much more rewarding.
dec1153 said:
I already have CWM installed? Do I have to install it again? If so can you take me on a step by step guide, I'm a utter noon! Thanks
So step 1) download ROM manger
Then.....
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If it works for you, it works. Don`t have to flash it twice. Look above @PhilipTD`s post for Philz Touch CWM, which is even better and has more options than CWM. Its a zip and you can flash it in CWM.
And its noob, not noon