what is the diffrence between twrp and clockworkmod? ever since i started rooting and flashing all ive known is clockworkmod....but it wont work with some of my apps like rom toolbox to flash roms....its telling me to use twrp......whats the diffrence though? i tried twrp touch once and it bricked my phone......so what is the diffrence? which one is better? should i get it? is there any risk on roms not being flashable with twrp? if so can i get the latest link and how to? i realize these might all be opinions but would really like to hear what you all have to say...thanks
I've never used an app to flash a Rom. I prefer to go to recovery myself, so I know what gets wiped. I've tried twrp a couple times before, but my phone didn't play nice with it, and it would refuse to boot, telling me there was no recovery or boot img loaded.
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I've never used an app to flash a Rom. I prefer to go to recovery myself, so I know what gets wiped. I've tried twrp a couple times before, but my phone didn't play nice with it, and it would refuse to boot, telling me there was no recovery or boot img loaded.
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Crap Installed twrp and haven't used it but after what you said I'm scared to.....anyway to go back to cwm?
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Flash it thru fastboot or use the app "flash image gui" it is a paid app on the market, but has also been offered here on xda by the dev for free. I haven't used the app in awhile, but it worked for me back on ics when I used it last.
If you use fastboot it's fastboot flash recovery recovery.img just make sure to use the actual recovery img file name instead of "recovery.img" at the end
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Crap Installed twrp and haven't used it but after what you said I'm scared to.....anyway to go back to cwm?
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Use this guide
I use twrp and have for months. If your phone got bricked you probably did something wrong. Most likely flashed the wrong image. Use the goomanager app from the market to install the twrp. Open the app press menu and select install open recovery script option. Works like a charm.
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Yea i love twerps ui. It is slick. And all the features are awesome.
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They are just both recoveries that you can use on your device. TWRP is based on the stock recovery and is all touch compatible whereas ClockWorkMod or CWM for short is a recovery where it does all the same features but some features of it are not available whereas in TWRP they are and vise versa. I use TWRP and I personally think that it is better than CWM any day. Yes like you I started of knowing only what CWM is but then I researched and found TWRP. I used TWRP ever since.
Although there are some disadvantages and Advantages of the both.
ClockworkMod:
The Advantages of CWM is that the backups are all in a way "linked" together. This means if you have the app swype for example and you backed that rom up that has Swype, and then made another backup of another ROM but with the same app Swype CWM recognizes that and uses the apk from the previous backup on the new one. So according to me it makes the backup faster.
Also there is a feature which is Fixing Permissions. TWRP has Fixing Permissions but it is not really that well made. With the Fixing Permissions it lets you fix apps that stop or like crash when you try and launch them. That helps when you flash a custom ROM and when you boot you get all these errors like "YouTube has stopped".
TWRP:
The advantages of TWRP is that it is all touch compatible and all "open source" in a way. I'm not sure about CWM but in TWRP you can customize it very easily if you know XML, with CWM I don't know. With TWRP it uses less data or memory on your SD card so it saves space on your internal storage which is a bonus.
Anything else I find about the advantages about the 2 I will post here in this post.
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They are just both recoveries that you can use on your device. TWRP is based on the stock recovery and is all touch compatible whereas ClockWorkMod or CWM for short is a recovery where it does all the same features but some features of it are not available whereas in TWRP they are and vise versa. I use TWRP and I personally think that it is better than CWM any day. Yes like you I started of knowing only what CWM is but then I researched and found TWRP. I used TWRP ever since.
Although there are some disadvantages and Advantages of the both.
ClockworkMod:
The Advantages of CWM is that the backups are all in a way "linked" together. This means if you have the app swype for example and you backed that rom up that has Swype, and then made another backup of another ROM but with the same app Swype CWM recognizes that and uses the apk from the previous backup on the new one. So according to me it makes the backup faster.
Also there is a feature which is Fixing Permissions. TWRP has Fixing Permissions but it is not really that well made. With the Fixing Permissions it lets you fix apps that stop or like crash when you try and launch them. That helps when you flash a custom ROM and when you boot you get all these errors like "YouTube has stopped".
TWRP:
The advantages of TWRP is that it is all touch compatible and all "open source" in a way. I'm not sure about CWM but in TWRP you can customize it very easily if you know XML, with CWM I don't know. With TWRP it uses less data or memory on your SD card so it saves space on your internal storage which is a bonus.
Anything else I find about the advantages about the 2 I will post here in this post.
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Last CWMR touch 6.0.1.0 !
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Flashable zip!
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ok so i am planning to use the nvflash to flash clockworkmod and then cyanogen after all that can i overwrite the recovery with the 1 in rom manager because rom manger is easier to operate then to boot in to recovery and so on so is the rommanager recovery image stable and safe to use because ive been hearing that its bad and its temporary.
Never use rom manager on the g2x. Seriously, just don't do it. You'll get aids.
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Lol ok but what is the problem with rom manager
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Lol ok but what is the problem with rom manager
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A lot of people will tell you nothing is wrong with it. The thing is it doesn't actually use the real recovery partition on any Tegra device. The recovery partition can only be written by NVFlash. Rom Manager flashes a fake (but mostly working) CWM to another partition. Issues can rise up if you have incompatible versions of CWM on each; you wont be able to use backups properly and other issues can pop up. If something happens to you Rom the Rom Manager flashed recovery goes with it. I just generally prefer to avoid Rom Manager on Tegra devices entirely.
Went to flash an updated Rom on my ATT One X. Been using CWM recovery.
Reboot into recovery, wipe/factory reset.
Go to find the file, SDCard is almost completely gone/items deleted.
I load up TWRP, mount the SDCard, nothing, all gone. So I just format the SDCard, copy the new Rom over to the SDCard root.
Reboot into recovery. Try to install, when I select it in TWRP, swipe, it sits, then just reboots the app and goes back to the main screen.
At a loss right now, phone apparently soft bricked. Maybe bad Rom zip?
Rooted/Unlocked of course, been working fine the past week. Only had the phone 1 week.
Ideas? Help..haha...
Easy, except you gonna have to reunlock boot loader.you can't boot into fast boot OEM relock bootloader and run ruu. You could also try using fast boot to flash something.
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Or it might be a case of twrp going bad. Fast boot flash recovery img and boot back into recovery.
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Or it might be a case of twrp going bad. Fast boot flash recovery img and boot back into recovery.
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It was clockwork I was using at the time.
Everytime I rebooted into recovery and selected the file to install, more stuff was missing.
I'm wondering if the SDCard got corrupt, recovery went crazy and wiped etc...or bad Rom.
Redownloaded Rom.
Reformatted SDCard for good measure since it was all pretty much gone.
Flashed TWRP back as the recovery.
Installing the Rom now. CleanRom 4.1SE.
But...all my Sh&t is gone off the SDCard. Backups, photos etc...buh-bye forever.
Side note, my camera lens area on the phone has been getting hot. Not sure where the processor is located on this phone, maybe it is just doing that while trying to install Rom and CPU is running a little hot and normal?
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It was clockwork I was using at the time.
Everytime I rebooted into recovery and selected the file to install, more stuff was missing.
I'm wondering if the SDCard got corrupt, recovery went crazy and wiped etc...or bad Rom.
Redownloaded Rom.
Reformatted SDCard.
Flashed TWRP back as the recovery.
Installing the Rom now.
But...all my Sh&t is gone off the SDCard. Backups, photos etc...buh-bye forever.
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Cwm has been known to have instability which is why almost everyone suggests using twrp, which is officially supported.
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Cwm has been known to have instability which is why almost everyone suggests using twrp, which is officially supported.
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Ok. I noticed it was nowhere near as complete and slick at say 4EXT recovery on my Inspire and suspected some weirdness was going on.
Back on TWRP now and seems to be installing the new Rom I just downloaded again.
Rebooting now...guess I should start copying my SDCard to my computer
Go to cnet.com and download recuva. Do a deep scam and it will recover most of your stuff.. worked for me.. do it on your computer.
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Go to cnet.com and download recuva. Do a deep scam and it will recover most of your stuff.. worked for me.. do it on your computer.
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Ok, cool, will give it a look.
The CleanRom thread blew up, apparently me and bunch of others had this happen using CWM and the latest build....
All working again, now if I can recovery some stuff, like the photos I had, that would be nice.
Appreciate the replies and help.
Edit: recuva didn't find anything useful. SDCard was blasted for good somehow.
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The CleanRom thread blew up, apparently me and bunch of others had this happen using CWM and the latest build....
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scrosler warned very clearly (even before the latest 4.1 build) not to use CWM. Why so many people chose to ignore him, I have no idea. For some reason the SD card wipe issue was much worse on CleanROM 4.1 than previous versions (and other ROMs).
Take note that the SD wipe issue has also happened on TWRP. Safest approach is to backup SD data to your desktop computer before flashing anything. In particular, your Titanium folder and anything not easily replaceable (photos, etc.). Its a bit of an annoyance to have to do this whenever you want to flash something. But until the cause of the issue is found and fixed, this is the safest way.
Not sure why everyone is blaming the Recovery's for loosing pictures and stuff from there internal SD card. Same thing happened to me with my HTC Touch Diamond, We all came to the conclusion it was from so much flashing. I have used both recovery's and lost pictures and My Documents. Just my 2cents worth.
Is there a tutorial somewhere showing how to switch from CWM to TWRP?
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Is there a tutorial somewhere showing how to switch from CWM to TWRP?
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Doload goo manager and use it to install recovery. Or you can go to twrp dev thread directions are there.
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I just finished rooting my Verizon GS3 using the Easy root method ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVRjAiW7HdE&feature=plcp ) and everything went well, Installed Rom Manager, flashed Verizon GS3 CWM Recovery. Booted into Recovery, went to make a backup and it keeps giving me an error "Error while backing up boot image!" I've checked and it seems the the root took just fine, Superuser is working. I just can't make a backup in CWM. Please help
If you're using CWM Touch than that's the cause for not backing up. Use a non-touch CWM, preferably 6.0.1.0 so that you have the ability to use kexec and custom roms later to prevent potential issues later
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You Da'man! Thanks so much
No problem, glad to help!
And meant to say custom kernels
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What's a non-touch cwm?
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when you go into Rom Manager and flash CWM it asked me if I want to purchase the "Touch". I did the first time I and was having an issue making a backup. When you are in CWM you usually have to use your volume up/down to toggle through it. If you add the "tough" you can use the screen and just tough what command you want to do. For some reason it didn't like it and wouldn't let me make a backup. So I flashed CWM again and it let me make the backup.
So I installed Clockwork mod touch via terminal emulator and the image on their site. It installs fine and works.....not really.
When I get into recovery and attempt to perform a backup of my current rom it simply says an error has a occured. this happens weather I boot into recovery to do it manually or i attempt to do it through rom manager.
Any ideas of what could be wrong?
Try installing EZ-Recovery from the market, then flash CWM Touch from there. It's a one click flash to recovery, no terminal commands.
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Try installing EZ-Recovery from the market, then flash CWM Touch from there. It's a one click flash to recovery, no terminal commands.
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jesus that app made it so much simpler. too bad it's still not working correctly. Now I'm wordering if the img got corrupted somehow during download to the phone.
After redownloading and flashing it the error is still happening. Regular CWM Recovery works perfectly. Touch...still getting errors. Basically when I click backup it says "backing up boot image" then nothing happens and it goes right back the menu. When I click it again I get the erroer message "Error while backing up root image"
One thing I've noticed is, even with CWM Touch flashed, rom manager still sees it as CWM Recovery 5.8.4.9
Is it possible it just doesn't like synergy?
Yeah I had the same problem when I installed CWM touch using the adb push method. Wouldn't backup, backup was fine with the non-touch version. However, installing via ez-recovery worked.
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Yeah I had the same problem when I installed CWM touch using the adb push method. Wouldn't backup, backup was fine with the non-touch version. However, installing via ez-recovery worked.
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even using ez-recovery didn't work for me.
Hitman3984 said:
even using ez-recovery didn't work for me.
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Same issue for me. Looking for possible solutions.....
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Same issue for me. Looking for possible solutions.....
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glad I'm not the only one.
Also noticed tonight smart alert isn't working after flashing to synergy. I thought maybe haptic feedback in power saving could be the cause but it isn't.
Edit: Tried again for the hell of it and this time I pointed to the cwm touch apart of ezrecovery and not the custom option by chossing the file and it now works.
All of that said rom manager and the cwm touch don't seem to work well together(im guessing unless you purchase
?) When you make a backup manually from going into recovery rom manager doesn't see it. CWM Touch also doesn't see the recovery made from non touch made in rom manager. Also Clockwork mod also still shows recovery as cwm 4.8.4.9
I'm relatively experienced in flashing roms but not ALL things root so this could be normal and just how things work.
Smart alert, still doesn't work.
So I like to use Rom Manager to manage my backups. I downloaded it but now it says I don't have cwm installed. I flashed it with EZ recovery. Would I be okay to flash recovery again so RM acknowledges it and I can then manage backups or would that conflict.
Great Question - Thanks for asking it
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So I like to use Rom Manager to manage my backups. I downloaded it but now it says I don't have cwm installed. I flashed it with EZ recovery. Would I be okay to flash recovery again so RM acknowledges it and I can then manage backups or would that conflict.
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By now you've probably plotted the solution. But, I was wondering the same question. Which App is better and why?
I will continue working on this for myself. All I have come up with so far: Some ROM's install better with one or the other and it's best to have all-hands-on-deck, so to speak
Again thanks for starting this thread!
I have the same question.
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rom manager has cwm 6.0.1.2 touch which has issues restoring backups on some roms from what I have read. cwm 6.0.1.1 non touch from ez recovery works flawless for everything and thats what I stick with. the only issue found with it is the nandroid dates are way off, but simply renaming them fixes that issue.
I thought the issue was with cwm touch 5 . something that ez recovery offers and not with the updated 6.0.1.2 through rom manager?
I'm running 6.0.1.2 without any issues, including multiple touchwiz and one aosp backup. Haven't noticed any problems other than never going back to the standard version cause touch is pure awesomeness
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