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Hey guys..
I just today rooted my lovely Nexus S, 9023 or what its called (non branded or nothing)
But i cant load recovery.. went fine when i rooted it, but now that i want to load an custom rom it fails.. i followed this guide to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883032
Anyone have some ideas??
I just get a android logo and triangle + ! in it.. as error.. (
Best regrads
n0ta
Just tested with ROM Mananger, it can backup just fine.. as soon i choose a ROM to install it loads recovery and fails, just like when you do it manually.
n0ta said:
Just tested with ROM Mananger, it can backup just fine.. as soon i choose a ROM to install it loads recovery and fails, just like when you do it manually.
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Sounds like stock recovery installed itself. If you are rooted remove/rename /etc/install-recovery.sh then reflash cwm manually or through rom manager.
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I have had this happen on my NS4G. I know they are a little different, but it seems like you are having the same thing happen that I did and to solve it, I open Windows command prompt(or terminal depending on you OS) and fastboot flash recovery (insert recovery.img name here) and reflashed the recovery partition with clockwork. Very easy fix. Just make sure you boot straight into recovery after flashing and flash the Rom you want to flash before booting back into stock(also make a nandroid before that). After that you shouldn't have any more problems unless you unroot. There must be a small glitch somewhere when flashing the clockwork doesn't fully erase stock recovery partition.
krohnjw said:
Sounds like stock recovery installed itself. If you are rooted remove/rename /etc/install-recovery.sh then reflash cwm manually or through rom manager.
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Works now thanks all to both of you.
n0ta said:
Works now thanks all to both of you.
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Pretty common lately...Android for Nexus S recovers its recovery if it is changes...
"You dawg, we heard you like recovering your recoveries, so we made recovery recover in recovery." and all that...
bender_123 said:
Pretty common lately...Android for Nexus S recovers its recovery if it is changes...
"You dawg, we heard you like recovering your recoveries, so we made recovery recover in recovery." and all that...
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The Nexus one did the same thing. Most OTAs verify / replace this file. It's easy enough to deal with if you're unlocked and rooted.
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This is about the third or fourth time this question has come up over the past week...
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This is about the third or fourth time this question has come up over the past week...
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I assure you it won't be the last.
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Can someone tell me what cwm stands for. I would like to install the updated infused rom over my 1.5 version but for what I've read they said not to use rom manager but to do it in cwm
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Clockwork mod. They're the devs of rom manager.
So your statement makes no sense to not use ROM Manager but to use CWM...
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Enraged21 said:
Clockwork mod. They're the devs of rom manager.
So your statement makes no sense to not use ROM Manager but to use CWM...
Evo SHIFT
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Your right, it doesn't but that's what I read...I think. Ill go back and copy what I read.
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Rom manager uses green cwm more for non voodoo Roms. Red cwm is more geared toward voodoo enabled roms
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That's what I read.
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tyshemi said:
Rom manager uses green cwm more for non voodoo Roms. Red cwm is more geared toward voodoo enabled roms
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So what's the best way to flash the updated rom over my 1.5.
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nash2000 said:
That's what I read.
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If you want to know how to get into red cwm, simply hold the power button and press on "Recovery" or manually do it by fully powering down ur phone. And then hold both volume buttons down and hold the power button. When the samsung logo appears, let go of the power button and itll boot into red cwm.
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nash2000 said:
So what's the best way to flash the updated rom over my 1.5.
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Red cwm
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CWM installed via ROM Manager is the same as any other CWM for our phone. CWM means ClockWorkMod Recovery.
However, for whatever reason, when accessing CWM by using "Recovery" from the poweroff menu (only on custom ROMs, not stock to my knowledge) and via the trick mentioned above (Although I think it's either VolUp or VolDown only when powering up - both leads you to bootloader mode, aka Odin downloader mode), the text of CWM is red. AKA "red CWM".
When you enter Recovery via ROM Manager, you get Green CWM (all text is green) - Don't know what the difference is or why there is one.
Rule of thumb. If you are on stock, you may flash any rom from Green cwm and via rom manager.
If you are on any Voodoo enabled rom with lagfix (which all of these custom roms are), DO NOT EVER use Rom manager to flash anything. It flashes from green cwm, and you will brick.
Manually copy the ROM to your SD card and boot into red CWM, and flash from there.
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Rule of thumb. If you are on stock, you may flash any rom from Green cwm and via rom manager.
If you are on any Voodoo enabled rom with lagfix (which all of these custom roms are), DO NOT EVER use Rom manager to flash anything. It flashes from green cwm, and you will brick.
Manually copy the ROM to your SD card and boot into red CWM, and flash from there.
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but WHAT IF you're on a stock rom.. and you boot into recovery from rom manager? lol
bradbusa said:
but WHAT IF you're on a stock rom.. and you boot into recovery from rom manager? lol
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Ummm. As i stated, in the first line of my response, you may flash from the recovery in rom manager...
hoofadoo said:
Ummm. As i stated, in the first line of my response, you may flash from the recovery in rom manager...
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lol i'm just being ornery
hoofadoo said:
Ummm. As i stated, in the first line of my response, you may flash from the recovery in rom manager...
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Hoofa LOL whats this LOL. I'm edumacated now lol
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Well not that I really know what I'm doing but, I just open rom manager and down load the rom and follow the prompts. I flashed 3 infused roms this way. currently on 1.5.2 never really payed attention to the color of the text. Am I doing it wrong? Lol
jayson94538 said:
If you want to know how to get into red cwm, simply hold the power button and press on "Recovery" or manually do it by fully powering down ur phone. And then hold both volume buttons down and hold the power button. When the samsung logo appears, let go of the power button and itll boot into red cwm.
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Or download Quickboot. When I select "boot to recovery" using Quickboot it always takes me to "red" recovery.
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lol i'm just being ornery
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lol i just thought you were being stupid... sorry
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Rule of thumb. If you are on stock, you may flash any rom from Green cwm and via rom manager.
If you are on any Voodoo enabled rom with lagfix (which all of these custom roms are), DO NOT EVER use Rom manager to flash anything. It flashes from green cwm, and you will brick.
Manually copy the ROM to your SD card and boot into red CWM, and flash from there.
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Can I do all of this from my phone?
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nash2000 said:
Can someone tell me what cwm stands for. I would like to install the updated infused rom over my 1.5 version but for what I've read they said not to use rom manager but to do it in cwm
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if this hasnt been properly cleared up clockworkmod developed cloclworkmod recovery and rom manager. cwm recovery can be used independant of rom manager. rom manager is just an app to access the features of cwm recovery when the phone is booted. but using any of those features will cause the phone to reboot into cwm recovery to complete the action. rom manager also has an interface to download roms and make unique names for your backups.
there are many versions of cwm recovery. some use edify scripting, some use amend scripting. there the infuse uses the same versions of cwm recovery as the i9000. but there is also red cwm recovery which is modded with controls for voodoo lagfix and is integrated into voodoo enabled kernels. if you have a voodoo kenrel installed you have red cwm and should be able to get to it from rom manager, but it may try to launch the update.zip instead.
rom manager is not needed, it is totally optional. having rom manager doesnt automatically give you green cwm recovery. you still need to flash it. (unless you have a voodoo kernel)
Dani897 said:
if this hasnt been properly cleared up clockworkmod developed cloclworkmod recovery and rom manager. cwm recovery can be used independant of rom manager. rom manager is just an app to access the features of cwm recovery when the phone is booted. but using any of those features will cause the phone to reboot into cwm recovery to complete the action. rom manager also has an interface to download roms and make unique names for your backups.
there are many versions of cwm recovery. some use edify scripting, some use amend scripting. there the infuse uses the same versions of cwm recovery as the i9000. but there is also red cwm recovery which is modded with controls for voodoo lagfix and is integrated into voodoo enabled kernels. if you have a voodoo kenrel installed you have red cwm and should be able to get to it from rom manager, but it may try to launch the update.zip instead.
rom manager is not needed, it is totally optional. having rom manager doesnt automatically give you green cwm recovery. you still need to flash it. (unless you have a voodoo kernel)
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All I have is infused 1.5, I haven't installed a differnet kernal. So do toy think I have green cwm
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Is there a way to fully wipe cwm from the phone if it was flashed with NV flasher? I flashed the internal support one when I started flashing roms and now I notice that trying to flash external support roms has put me in a pickle. I've asked before whether I needed to switch support or something and was told the newest rom manager supports both... this is wrong. Upon installing eaglesblood 2.3.5 and installing rom manager...no cwm detected, so I flash it. Now when I reboot doing power and down I boot into an old internal support cwm that only has old backups and access to the internal SD. If I reboot from rom manager it will boot into the new cwm. How do I erase the old NV flash version. It wont hold any new backups, so if I crash it will leave me with old cwm. Plus its a pain when I don't have access to downloads I do via rom manager.....
Summary - old version of cwm bootable through power and down (nvflash version) . New version flashed by rom manager only shows up booting through rom manager. Want to erase NV flash version so there's only one. Frustrated.
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No need to erase, just nvflash over current will replace old.....if you flash newest 5.0.1.6 i belive, it lets you choose zip from sd card or internal memory....BUT have the latest nvflash one, its a must if you are gonna flash roms.
http://db.tt/Rl6YH0B
I see, what about flashing through rom manager? Is there a way to rid the rom manager install before I do the NV flash... should I not flash through rom manager?
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unique77 said:
I see what about flashing through rom manager. Is there a way to rid that one before I do the NV flash... should I not flash through rom manager?
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Just have both, make sure both are latest, but the nvflash one is most important. That one will/can save your life (phone)
For all intents and purposes, you cannot actually flash CWM from ROM manager with this phone. All it can do is reboot into CWM from the app. If you ever need to access CWM from a power-off state (bad flash, bootloop, etc.) you will only be able to enter the NVFlash version. Strongly recommend always having the NVFlashed version of CWM. Maybe even give up using ROM Manager altogether.
If you can't do without ROM Manager, keep using it. But it would be a good idea to flash CWM 5.x.x.x through NVFlash so that you have an emergency recovery that can read both internal and external memory.
Thanks Frisco and r4. Totally understand now. Relief. Now to Eb 1.9!
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The first time I flashed a from I used NVFlash but after that I used rom manager to boot into recovery when I was on gb now I'm running ics and I just hold down the power button click reboot>recovery and flash rooms from there and it works is this normal? Cuz I heard ur suppose to ALWAYS use nvflash
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Laxshanth said:
The first time I flashed a from I used NVFlash but after that I used rom manager to boot into recovery when I was on gb now I'm running ics and I just hold down the power button click reboot>recovery and flash rooms from there and it works is this normal? Cuz I heard ur suppose to ALWAYS use nvflash
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So which is it? If you're always doing Power button > Reboot > Recovery you are booting into the NvFlash'd CWM recovery not ROM Manager
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So which is it? If you're always doing Power button > Reboot > Recovery you are booting into the NvFlash'd CWM recovery not ROM Manager
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Ohh ok thanks makes sense but what about when I use to be on gb I use to use rom manager
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You can also use ROM manager to boot to recovery, the reason people advise against using the app altogether is because the fake flashing that ROM manager does.
ROM manager will boot into nvflash recovery successfully as long as you never flashed the fake recovery via ROM manager.
So again, if you never flashed via ROM manager, then holding power>reboot recovery = going to ROM manager and booting to recovery.
buru898 said:
You can also use ROM manager to boot to recovery, the reason people advise against using the app altogether is because the fake flashing that ROM manager does.
ROM manager will boot into nvflash recovery successfully as long as you never flashed the fake recovery via ROM manager.
So again, if you never flashed via ROM manager, then holding power>reboot recovery = going to ROM manager and booting to recovery.
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Okayy that's why it works lol thanks alot!
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Not that it matters, but I have always flashed both recoveries. It's not that Rom Manager "fake" flashes it, it isn't flashed on a persistent partition that can be reached via button combo. I use Rom Manager and it's "fake" recovery mostly for nandroids. In reality, there's literally 2 separate recoveries, albeit, one is worthless in any "no boot" situation. Other than that, it's fine to flash roms and what not, just always have both, never just R M.
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Not that it matters, but I have always flashed both recoveries. It's not that Rom Manager "fake" flashes it, it isn't flashed on a persistent partition that can be reached via button combo. I use Rom Manager and it's "fake" recovery mostly for nandroids. In reality, there's literally 2 separate recoveries, albeit, one is worthless in any "no boot" situation. Other than that, it's fine to flash roms and what not, just always have both, never just R M.
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Before I'm pretty sure I downloaded a rom and it didn't have rom manager so I downloaded it from the play store and went into recovery through that and flashed a rom? Or is that normal?
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That's fine, what we're all trying to explain is that if you mess up and your phone won't boot normally, you won't be able to recover it with the Rom Manager recovery since it is only accessible through a working a ROM. This is why we Nvflash it on a persistent partition that can be accessed regardless if you have a working rom or not. There's no difference between the two recoveries, only where they are flashed.
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You can also use ROM manager to boot to recovery, the reason people advise against using the app altogether is because the fake flashing that ROM manager does.
ROM manager will boot into nvflash recovery successfully as long as you never flashed the fake recovery via ROM manager.
So again, if you never flashed via ROM manager, then holding power>reboot recovery = going to ROM manager and booting to recovery.
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I agree. ROM Manager which should be named ROM Mangler has seriously messed up phones causing its victims many hours of panic and grief. Stay away from it.
Kinda off topic but if rom manager is so bad why is it included with custom roms? One of the first things i do is uninstall it with titanium backup
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Kinda off topic but if rom manager is so bad why is it included with custom roms? One of the first things i do is uninstall it with titanium backup
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Because it can be used to boot into Recovery, and it is useful for the purpose of organizing backups
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what is the diffrence between twrp and clockworkmod? ever since i started rooting and flashing all ive known is clockworkmod....but it wont work with some of my apps like rom toolbox to flash roms....its telling me to use twrp......whats the diffrence though? i tried twrp touch once and it bricked my phone......so what is the diffrence? which one is better? should i get it? is there any risk on roms not being flashable with twrp? if so can i get the latest link and how to? i realize these might all be opinions but would really like to hear what you all have to say...thanks
I've never used an app to flash a Rom. I prefer to go to recovery myself, so I know what gets wiped. I've tried twrp a couple times before, but my phone didn't play nice with it, and it would refuse to boot, telling me there was no recovery or boot img loaded.
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I've never used an app to flash a Rom. I prefer to go to recovery myself, so I know what gets wiped. I've tried twrp a couple times before, but my phone didn't play nice with it, and it would refuse to boot, telling me there was no recovery or boot img loaded.
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Crap Installed twrp and haven't used it but after what you said I'm scared to.....anyway to go back to cwm?
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Flash it thru fastboot or use the app "flash image gui" it is a paid app on the market, but has also been offered here on xda by the dev for free. I haven't used the app in awhile, but it worked for me back on ics when I used it last.
If you use fastboot it's fastboot flash recovery recovery.img just make sure to use the actual recovery img file name instead of "recovery.img" at the end
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mcluvin1065 said:
Crap Installed twrp and haven't used it but after what you said I'm scared to.....anyway to go back to cwm?
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Use this guide
I use twrp and have for months. If your phone got bricked you probably did something wrong. Most likely flashed the wrong image. Use the goomanager app from the market to install the twrp. Open the app press menu and select install open recovery script option. Works like a charm.
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Yea i love twerps ui. It is slick. And all the features are awesome.
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They are just both recoveries that you can use on your device. TWRP is based on the stock recovery and is all touch compatible whereas ClockWorkMod or CWM for short is a recovery where it does all the same features but some features of it are not available whereas in TWRP they are and vise versa. I use TWRP and I personally think that it is better than CWM any day. Yes like you I started of knowing only what CWM is but then I researched and found TWRP. I used TWRP ever since.
Although there are some disadvantages and Advantages of the both.
ClockworkMod:
The Advantages of CWM is that the backups are all in a way "linked" together. This means if you have the app swype for example and you backed that rom up that has Swype, and then made another backup of another ROM but with the same app Swype CWM recognizes that and uses the apk from the previous backup on the new one. So according to me it makes the backup faster.
Also there is a feature which is Fixing Permissions. TWRP has Fixing Permissions but it is not really that well made. With the Fixing Permissions it lets you fix apps that stop or like crash when you try and launch them. That helps when you flash a custom ROM and when you boot you get all these errors like "YouTube has stopped".
TWRP:
The advantages of TWRP is that it is all touch compatible and all "open source" in a way. I'm not sure about CWM but in TWRP you can customize it very easily if you know XML, with CWM I don't know. With TWRP it uses less data or memory on your SD card so it saves space on your internal storage which is a bonus.
Anything else I find about the advantages about the 2 I will post here in this post.
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They are just both recoveries that you can use on your device. TWRP is based on the stock recovery and is all touch compatible whereas ClockWorkMod or CWM for short is a recovery where it does all the same features but some features of it are not available whereas in TWRP they are and vise versa. I use TWRP and I personally think that it is better than CWM any day. Yes like you I started of knowing only what CWM is but then I researched and found TWRP. I used TWRP ever since.
Although there are some disadvantages and Advantages of the both.
ClockworkMod:
The Advantages of CWM is that the backups are all in a way "linked" together. This means if you have the app swype for example and you backed that rom up that has Swype, and then made another backup of another ROM but with the same app Swype CWM recognizes that and uses the apk from the previous backup on the new one. So according to me it makes the backup faster.
Also there is a feature which is Fixing Permissions. TWRP has Fixing Permissions but it is not really that well made. With the Fixing Permissions it lets you fix apps that stop or like crash when you try and launch them. That helps when you flash a custom ROM and when you boot you get all these errors like "YouTube has stopped".
TWRP:
The advantages of TWRP is that it is all touch compatible and all "open source" in a way. I'm not sure about CWM but in TWRP you can customize it very easily if you know XML, with CWM I don't know. With TWRP it uses less data or memory on your SD card so it saves space on your internal storage which is a bonus.
Anything else I find about the advantages about the 2 I will post here in this post.
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Last CWMR touch 6.0.1.0 !
FULLY WORKING!
Flashable zip!
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