The first time I flashed a from I used NVFlash but after that I used rom manager to boot into recovery when I was on gb now I'm running ics and I just hold down the power button click reboot>recovery and flash rooms from there and it works is this normal? Cuz I heard ur suppose to ALWAYS use nvflash
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Laxshanth said:
The first time I flashed a from I used NVFlash but after that I used rom manager to boot into recovery when I was on gb now I'm running ics and I just hold down the power button click reboot>recovery and flash rooms from there and it works is this normal? Cuz I heard ur suppose to ALWAYS use nvflash
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So which is it? If you're always doing Power button > Reboot > Recovery you are booting into the NvFlash'd CWM recovery not ROM Manager
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So which is it? If you're always doing Power button > Reboot > Recovery you are booting into the NvFlash'd CWM recovery not ROM Manager
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Ohh ok thanks makes sense but what about when I use to be on gb I use to use rom manager
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You can also use ROM manager to boot to recovery, the reason people advise against using the app altogether is because the fake flashing that ROM manager does.
ROM manager will boot into nvflash recovery successfully as long as you never flashed the fake recovery via ROM manager.
So again, if you never flashed via ROM manager, then holding power>reboot recovery = going to ROM manager and booting to recovery.
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You can also use ROM manager to boot to recovery, the reason people advise against using the app altogether is because the fake flashing that ROM manager does.
ROM manager will boot into nvflash recovery successfully as long as you never flashed the fake recovery via ROM manager.
So again, if you never flashed via ROM manager, then holding power>reboot recovery = going to ROM manager and booting to recovery.
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Okayy that's why it works lol thanks alot!
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Not that it matters, but I have always flashed both recoveries. It's not that Rom Manager "fake" flashes it, it isn't flashed on a persistent partition that can be reached via button combo. I use Rom Manager and it's "fake" recovery mostly for nandroids. In reality, there's literally 2 separate recoveries, albeit, one is worthless in any "no boot" situation. Other than that, it's fine to flash roms and what not, just always have both, never just R M.
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Not that it matters, but I have always flashed both recoveries. It's not that Rom Manager "fake" flashes it, it isn't flashed on a persistent partition that can be reached via button combo. I use Rom Manager and it's "fake" recovery mostly for nandroids. In reality, there's literally 2 separate recoveries, albeit, one is worthless in any "no boot" situation. Other than that, it's fine to flash roms and what not, just always have both, never just R M.
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Before I'm pretty sure I downloaded a rom and it didn't have rom manager so I downloaded it from the play store and went into recovery through that and flashed a rom? Or is that normal?
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That's fine, what we're all trying to explain is that if you mess up and your phone won't boot normally, you won't be able to recover it with the Rom Manager recovery since it is only accessible through a working a ROM. This is why we Nvflash it on a persistent partition that can be accessed regardless if you have a working rom or not. There's no difference between the two recoveries, only where they are flashed.
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buru898 said:
You can also use ROM manager to boot to recovery, the reason people advise against using the app altogether is because the fake flashing that ROM manager does.
ROM manager will boot into nvflash recovery successfully as long as you never flashed the fake recovery via ROM manager.
So again, if you never flashed via ROM manager, then holding power>reboot recovery = going to ROM manager and booting to recovery.
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I agree. ROM Manager which should be named ROM Mangler has seriously messed up phones causing its victims many hours of panic and grief. Stay away from it.
Kinda off topic but if rom manager is so bad why is it included with custom roms? One of the first things i do is uninstall it with titanium backup
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Kinda off topic but if rom manager is so bad why is it included with custom roms? One of the first things i do is uninstall it with titanium backup
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Because it can be used to boot into Recovery, and it is useful for the purpose of organizing backups
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I recently purchased Rom Manager but every time I select backup current rom it reboots the phone to a screen that only has options to reboot recovery, reboot, recover, & shutdown. Its the same screen I saw when holding the volume up and turning on the phone. What am I missing?
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diggmc said:
I recently purchased Rom Manager but every time I select backup current rom it reboots the phone to a screen that only has options to reboot recovery, reboot, recover, & shutdown. Its the same screen I saw when holding the volume up and turning on the phone. What am I missing?
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You need to root and install Clockwork Recovery to use the built in Backups of ROM Manager.
The phone is rooted and rom manager says clockworkmod is installed but Im still not getting anywhere
I just checked again, and I have 3.0.2.4 of clockworkmod installed.
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The phone is rooted and rom manager says clockworkmod is installed but Im still not getting anywhere
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Try installing clockwork recovery manually. It doesn't sound like you have it installed. At least not correctly.
AHA! Success... I redownloaded and flashed clockworkmod again and this time I was able to backup my rom.
Thanks for the help, much appreciated
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Hey guys..
I just today rooted my lovely Nexus S, 9023 or what its called (non branded or nothing)
But i cant load recovery.. went fine when i rooted it, but now that i want to load an custom rom it fails.. i followed this guide to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883032
Anyone have some ideas??
I just get a android logo and triangle + ! in it.. as error.. (
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Just tested with ROM Mananger, it can backup just fine.. as soon i choose a ROM to install it loads recovery and fails, just like when you do it manually.
n0ta said:
Just tested with ROM Mananger, it can backup just fine.. as soon i choose a ROM to install it loads recovery and fails, just like when you do it manually.
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Sounds like stock recovery installed itself. If you are rooted remove/rename /etc/install-recovery.sh then reflash cwm manually or through rom manager.
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I have had this happen on my NS4G. I know they are a little different, but it seems like you are having the same thing happen that I did and to solve it, I open Windows command prompt(or terminal depending on you OS) and fastboot flash recovery (insert recovery.img name here) and reflashed the recovery partition with clockwork. Very easy fix. Just make sure you boot straight into recovery after flashing and flash the Rom you want to flash before booting back into stock(also make a nandroid before that). After that you shouldn't have any more problems unless you unroot. There must be a small glitch somewhere when flashing the clockwork doesn't fully erase stock recovery partition.
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Sounds like stock recovery installed itself. If you are rooted remove/rename /etc/install-recovery.sh then reflash cwm manually or through rom manager.
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Works now thanks all to both of you.
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Works now thanks all to both of you.
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Pretty common lately...Android for Nexus S recovers its recovery if it is changes...
"You dawg, we heard you like recovering your recoveries, so we made recovery recover in recovery." and all that...
bender_123 said:
Pretty common lately...Android for Nexus S recovers its recovery if it is changes...
"You dawg, we heard you like recovering your recoveries, so we made recovery recover in recovery." and all that...
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The Nexus one did the same thing. Most OTAs verify / replace this file. It's easy enough to deal with if you're unlocked and rooted.
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This is about the third or fourth time this question has come up over the past week...
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This is about the third or fourth time this question has come up over the past week...
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I assure you it won't be the last.
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Can someone tell me what cwm stands for. I would like to install the updated infused rom over my 1.5 version but for what I've read they said not to use rom manager but to do it in cwm
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Clockwork mod. They're the devs of rom manager.
So your statement makes no sense to not use ROM Manager but to use CWM...
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Enraged21 said:
Clockwork mod. They're the devs of rom manager.
So your statement makes no sense to not use ROM Manager but to use CWM...
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Your right, it doesn't but that's what I read...I think. Ill go back and copy what I read.
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Rom manager uses green cwm more for non voodoo Roms. Red cwm is more geared toward voodoo enabled roms
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That's what I read.
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Rom manager uses green cwm more for non voodoo Roms. Red cwm is more geared toward voodoo enabled roms
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So what's the best way to flash the updated rom over my 1.5.
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That's what I read.
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If you want to know how to get into red cwm, simply hold the power button and press on "Recovery" or manually do it by fully powering down ur phone. And then hold both volume buttons down and hold the power button. When the samsung logo appears, let go of the power button and itll boot into red cwm.
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So what's the best way to flash the updated rom over my 1.5.
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Red cwm
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CWM installed via ROM Manager is the same as any other CWM for our phone. CWM means ClockWorkMod Recovery.
However, for whatever reason, when accessing CWM by using "Recovery" from the poweroff menu (only on custom ROMs, not stock to my knowledge) and via the trick mentioned above (Although I think it's either VolUp or VolDown only when powering up - both leads you to bootloader mode, aka Odin downloader mode), the text of CWM is red. AKA "red CWM".
When you enter Recovery via ROM Manager, you get Green CWM (all text is green) - Don't know what the difference is or why there is one.
Rule of thumb. If you are on stock, you may flash any rom from Green cwm and via rom manager.
If you are on any Voodoo enabled rom with lagfix (which all of these custom roms are), DO NOT EVER use Rom manager to flash anything. It flashes from green cwm, and you will brick.
Manually copy the ROM to your SD card and boot into red CWM, and flash from there.
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Rule of thumb. If you are on stock, you may flash any rom from Green cwm and via rom manager.
If you are on any Voodoo enabled rom with lagfix (which all of these custom roms are), DO NOT EVER use Rom manager to flash anything. It flashes from green cwm, and you will brick.
Manually copy the ROM to your SD card and boot into red CWM, and flash from there.
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but WHAT IF you're on a stock rom.. and you boot into recovery from rom manager? lol
bradbusa said:
but WHAT IF you're on a stock rom.. and you boot into recovery from rom manager? lol
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Ummm. As i stated, in the first line of my response, you may flash from the recovery in rom manager...
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Ummm. As i stated, in the first line of my response, you may flash from the recovery in rom manager...
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lol i'm just being ornery
hoofadoo said:
Ummm. As i stated, in the first line of my response, you may flash from the recovery in rom manager...
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Hoofa LOL whats this LOL. I'm edumacated now lol
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Well not that I really know what I'm doing but, I just open rom manager and down load the rom and follow the prompts. I flashed 3 infused roms this way. currently on 1.5.2 never really payed attention to the color of the text. Am I doing it wrong? Lol
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If you want to know how to get into red cwm, simply hold the power button and press on "Recovery" or manually do it by fully powering down ur phone. And then hold both volume buttons down and hold the power button. When the samsung logo appears, let go of the power button and itll boot into red cwm.
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Or download Quickboot. When I select "boot to recovery" using Quickboot it always takes me to "red" recovery.
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bradbusa said:
lol i'm just being ornery
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lol i just thought you were being stupid... sorry
hoofadoo said:
Rule of thumb. If you are on stock, you may flash any rom from Green cwm and via rom manager.
If you are on any Voodoo enabled rom with lagfix (which all of these custom roms are), DO NOT EVER use Rom manager to flash anything. It flashes from green cwm, and you will brick.
Manually copy the ROM to your SD card and boot into red CWM, and flash from there.
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Can I do all of this from my phone?
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nash2000 said:
Can someone tell me what cwm stands for. I would like to install the updated infused rom over my 1.5 version but for what I've read they said not to use rom manager but to do it in cwm
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if this hasnt been properly cleared up clockworkmod developed cloclworkmod recovery and rom manager. cwm recovery can be used independant of rom manager. rom manager is just an app to access the features of cwm recovery when the phone is booted. but using any of those features will cause the phone to reboot into cwm recovery to complete the action. rom manager also has an interface to download roms and make unique names for your backups.
there are many versions of cwm recovery. some use edify scripting, some use amend scripting. there the infuse uses the same versions of cwm recovery as the i9000. but there is also red cwm recovery which is modded with controls for voodoo lagfix and is integrated into voodoo enabled kernels. if you have a voodoo kenrel installed you have red cwm and should be able to get to it from rom manager, but it may try to launch the update.zip instead.
rom manager is not needed, it is totally optional. having rom manager doesnt automatically give you green cwm recovery. you still need to flash it. (unless you have a voodoo kernel)
Dani897 said:
if this hasnt been properly cleared up clockworkmod developed cloclworkmod recovery and rom manager. cwm recovery can be used independant of rom manager. rom manager is just an app to access the features of cwm recovery when the phone is booted. but using any of those features will cause the phone to reboot into cwm recovery to complete the action. rom manager also has an interface to download roms and make unique names for your backups.
there are many versions of cwm recovery. some use edify scripting, some use amend scripting. there the infuse uses the same versions of cwm recovery as the i9000. but there is also red cwm recovery which is modded with controls for voodoo lagfix and is integrated into voodoo enabled kernels. if you have a voodoo kenrel installed you have red cwm and should be able to get to it from rom manager, but it may try to launch the update.zip instead.
rom manager is not needed, it is totally optional. having rom manager doesnt automatically give you green cwm recovery. you still need to flash it. (unless you have a voodoo kernel)
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All I have is infused 1.5, I haven't installed a differnet kernal. So do toy think I have green cwm
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ok so i am planning to use the nvflash to flash clockworkmod and then cyanogen after all that can i overwrite the recovery with the 1 in rom manager because rom manger is easier to operate then to boot in to recovery and so on so is the rommanager recovery image stable and safe to use because ive been hearing that its bad and its temporary.
Never use rom manager on the g2x. Seriously, just don't do it. You'll get aids.
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Lol ok but what is the problem with rom manager
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wiswis said:
Lol ok but what is the problem with rom manager
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A lot of people will tell you nothing is wrong with it. The thing is it doesn't actually use the real recovery partition on any Tegra device. The recovery partition can only be written by NVFlash. Rom Manager flashes a fake (but mostly working) CWM to another partition. Issues can rise up if you have incompatible versions of CWM on each; you wont be able to use backups properly and other issues can pop up. If something happens to you Rom the Rom Manager flashed recovery goes with it. I just generally prefer to avoid Rom Manager on Tegra devices entirely.
So i downloaded rom manager from the market. I went to flash clockworkmod recovery to the phone and selected verizon galaxy s3. It progressed a certain amount then stopped responding. I'm a bit hesitant to reboot my phone but should this have worked?
I'm rooted and unlocked bootloader.
SerialTurd said:
So i downloaded rom manager from the market. I went to flash clockworkmod recovery to the phone and selected verizon galaxy s3. It progressed a certain amount then stopped responding. I'm a bit hesitant to reboot my phone but should this have worked?
I'm rooted and unlocked bootloader.
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Try reflashing or ditch Rom Manager and use EZ-Recovery to flash CWM 6.0.1.0.
PJnc284 said:
Try reflashing or ditch Rom Manager and use EZ-Recovery to flash CWM 6.0.1.0.
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I did it a second time and it asked for SU. Seemed to go through. I'm going to reboot and see if it works.
Do not use ROM manager, just use EZ Recovery from the market.
Is there something wrong with ROM manager?
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Is there something wrong with ROM manager?
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Well apparently it bricked the OP's phone.
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Taehee. said:
Well apparently it bricked the OP's phone.
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It didn't brick his phone, for some reason the first time you flash cwm from rom manager, it hangs when it's about to ask for SU permissions, it force closes. Second time it will go through, doesn't brick your phone or anything of that nature.
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Try reflashing or ditch Rom Manager and use EZ-Recovery to flash CWM 6.0.1.0.
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I don't believe you can hard brick a phone from a recovery. You can always flash the stock recovery.img and be fine. I used ez recovery and chose custom and selected CMW 6 flashed, said ok, rebooted and the phone automatically went into download mode and would not boot up. All i did was flash the recovery.img i pulled from cmw non touch and flashed recovery and all was good.
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I don't believe you can hard brick a phone from a recovery. You can always flash the stock recovery.img and be fine. I used ez recovery and chose custom and selected CMW 6 flashed, said ok, rebooted and the phone automatically went into download mode and would not boot up. All i did was flash the recovery.img i pulled from cmw non touch and flashed recovery and all was good.
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well cwm bricked my phone. phone turns on says samsung and goes black. also when i plug the charger in it vibrates intermitently.
Install CWM Touch here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719744