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All XDA members
I have a problem that made me raise a question an that is an we know the name of a rom from a nanriod backup either on PC or on Andriod.??
Ideally PC would be good !!
Thanks
Most ( not all) recovery apps let you name the file. Are you asking how to find the file? If so, it likely is in a folder named backups. You can move the file to your pc and keep it there if you are out of storage space.
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stevens243 said:
Most ( not all) recovery apps let you name the file. Are you asking how to find the file? If so, it likely is in a folder named backups. You can move the file to your pc and keep it there if you are out of storage space.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear please consider the following situation :
I have around 12 backups of different roms and I dont want to restore each n every backup for sake of simple file or simple thing. So any tool which can read the name of Rom? Probably the buildprop or about phone info will help
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Well, if you gave a single boot system, your recovery should "see" all of those files. If so, you can usb them or copy to a sd card and move them. Just move them back when you need to.
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Can someone explain nandroid backup to me? Does it mean I can make a backup my current rom and save it? Sorry for the dumb question.
Yep
TPS_Reports said:
Can someone explain nandroid backup to me? Does it mean I can make a backup my current rom and save it? Sorry for the dumb question.
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Simply,it is a backup of your OS and settings. It is extremely valuable if you flash a new ROM that doesn't/won't function. Then, you can use your recovery to, well, recover your previous WORKING OS.
When/if you begin to flash new ROMs (and other tools that may corrupt your OS) you should always.first.backup.your.files.
Can I assume I would need to wipe data/factory reset, etc. before I restore the backup?
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No assumptions
TPS_Reports said:
Can I assume I would need to wipe data/factory reset, etc. before I restore the backup?
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So, that depends on what your starting config is, what you upgraded to.
For instance, if you are stock and flash a ROM using the stock recovery, then likely yes. You should and you would use the stock bootloader to wipe with.
If you have loaded a new recovery (TWRP, CWM) then read(!) the instructions on the developers page. My example is that on my tablet, once I upgraded to TWRP, I SHOULD NOT use the factory wipe option as that would wipe both TWRP and the backup files. That would cause lots of problems so, don't assume.
Typically, you do need to data/reset/wipe prior to flashing a new or recovering to an old ROM, just be careful what/how you do it.
I have a CWM recovery installed and installed custom Rome before. I have always redid everything again. So a backup would save me a lot of time.
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I have a CWM recovery installed and installed custom Rome before. I have always redid everything again. So a backup would save me a lot of time.
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Then, unless the ROM developer states otherwise, you should make backups, wipe data, install ROMs and recover your device using the Nandroid backup.
You likely shouldn't use the "factory" wipe data as that would cause issues.
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I'm having issues backing up my Verizon S3. It is rooted with an unlocked bootloader (not sure if that helps), and I'm just trying to backup the stock ROM. I am seeing that the backups I create are only 22 MB in size (clearly not right). I've tried making the backups through ROM Manager as well as CWM, with the same results. There's no failure in making the backup, but when I go to restore it, I'm getting the message "error while restoring /system". When I boot my phone after this, it gets stuck on the Samsung screen. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong with the backups? Really trying to avoid having to use Odin to put the phone back to stock. Thanks!
Thats because the latest cwm uses a blobs folder to store most of the backup. This process allows back up and restore to complete much faster.
Interesting...so how do I get the data from these files to restore?
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it should restore like you did it normally...i missed part of your post about failing to restore. Which version of cwm are you using? 6.0.1 is recomended and works for everthing currently flashable on our device.
Oh duh...I'm trying to restore to a different device. I need to copy over the blob folder too...that's where I screwed up. Thanks!
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bobmundo said:
Oh duh...I'm trying to restore to a different device. I need to copy over the blob folder too...that's where I screwed up. Thanks!
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Yea thats an important detail left out lol...glad you figured it out!
I am currently running CM 10 and I want to switch roms but I am not sure how... I have 4EXT recovery and I'm not sure how to re-flash the rom.. Can someone help me?
Put the ROM zip to SD card. Go to recovery and do a factory reset. Then select the ROM zip and flash it.
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sepsep 21 said:
Put the ROM zip to SD card. Go to recovery and do a factory reset. Then select the ROM zip and flash it.
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Thanks, so I don't have to do anything else like I did the first time round?
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Thanks, so I don't have to do anything else like I did the first time round?
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You said you are running cm10 so its not the
first time that you change your rom. So you can flash the ROM without any problem.
But if your device is s-on you must flash
The rom with smartflash method. You can choose it in recovery. Sry for my bad English.
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Put the ROM zip to SD card. Go to recovery and do a factory reset. Then select the ROM zip and flash it.
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No.
Do not do a factory reset. This will just delete your user data. It will not delete the system data so if you try to install a new ROM overtop of an existing one that's different things could get messy. You want to do a full wipe, not just a factory reset.
The FIRST step is to make a backup of your currenr ROM. That way you can easily revert back to it as if you never left. This is valuable for many reasons. You may decide you don't like your new rom. Your new rom may have problems and not work properly and you'll want to go back to a working phone quickly. You may forget to back something up and will want to be able to extra some data from the backup (That's easy to do, but only if you have a backup). The list goes on and on.
Backing up your rom is super easy with 4EXT. You just tell it to back up your ROM and it will do the rest. It takes about 5 minutes.
Then you'll want to back up certain data that you'll want to use on your new ROM. Contacts, wifi access points, app data, text messages, etc etc etc. Whatever you want. Use Titanium Backup. It's super easy to use and works great. It will let you take all your apps and data off one ROM and put it onto another.
After you back up your rom, boot into recovery and do a full wipe using "format all partitions (except SD card)". The option is written exactly like that in the menu. You can't miss it. This will format the data and system files so you'll have a blank slate to install a new ROM from.
NOW flash the new rom. Then flash GApps if required. Boot the phone.
Download Titanium Backup from teh Play Store and use it to restore apps and data you want. (Your saves Titanium data will be ready to use when you install Titanium on the new ROM)
Enjoy your new ROM.
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No.
Do not do a factory reset. This will just delete your user data. It will not delete the system data so if you try to install a new ROM overtop of an existing one that's different things could get messy. You want to do a full wipe, not just a factory reset.
The FIRST step is to make a backup of your currenr ROM. That way you can easily revert back to it as if you never left. This is valuable for many reasons. You may decide you don't like your new rom. Your new rom may have problems and not work properly and you'll want to go back to a working phone quickly. You may forget to back something up and will want to be able to extra some data from the backup (That's easy to do, but only if you have a backup). The list goes on and on.
Backing up your rom is super easy with 4EXT. You just tell it to back up your ROM and it will do the rest. It takes about 5 minutes.
Then you'll want to back up certain data that you'll want to use on your new ROM. Contacts, wifi access points, app data, text messages, etc etc etc. Whatever you want. Use Titanium Backup. It's super easy to use and works great. It will let you take all your apps and data off one ROM and put it onto another.
After you back up your rom, boot into recovery and do a full wipe using "format all partitions (except SD card)". The option is written exactly like that in the menu. You can't miss it. This will format the data and system files so you'll have a blank slate to install a new ROM from.
NOW flash the new rom. Then flash GApps if required. Boot the phone.
Download Titanium Backup from teh Play Store and use it to restore apps and data you want. (Your saves Titanium data will be ready to use when you install Titanium on the new ROM)
Enjoy your new ROM.
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Hello
ust to confirm, instead of using 4EXT im using CWM recovery. I have read that 4EXT and CWM actually does the same job(recovery) so using CWM does not affect the subsequent steps right? (ie using Titanium Backup to back up messages and contacts and doing a full wipe). it will be the same process just using different recovery tool right?
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Hello
ust to confirm, instead of using 4EXT im using CWM recovery. I have read that 4EXT and CWM actually does the same job(recovery) so using CWM does not affect the subsequent steps right? (ie using Titanium Backup to back up messages and contacts and doing a full wipe). it will be the same process just using different recovery tool right?
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In theory, yes. But some roms don't install properly from cwm and some absolutely require 4ext due to the use of aroma installer.
Just switch to 4ext. Takes 2 seconds to switch. The app doss all the work to install the recovery.
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In my opinion 4ext is better than cmw but cmw show the aroma installer and install everything. But 4ext is better at all.
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ah i see . alright i shall follow the changing cmw to 4ext recovery thread and change the recovery thingy. thank you all!
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ah i see . alright i shall follow the changing cmw to 4ext recovery thread and change the recovery thingy. thank you all!
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You don't even have to do all that if you're willing to buy the $3 4EXT app.
The guide you'll find will have to flash 4EXT with a PM58IMG file in the bootloader. It's easy enough. But you'll lack the app that goes with it that lets you manage your backups, control the recovery module, and update the recovery quickly and easily when new versions are available.
Just buy the 4EXT app on the play store, then from within the app tell it to install the 4EXT recovery module and it'll install the recovery for you quickly and easily.
Plus you're giving $3 to a developer who made a REALLY fantastic recovery and app for you.
I have what seems like a very basic question on backing up using TWRP, and yet I havent been able to find this anywhere in the help threads.
When I am creating a backup it asks for what I want to backup: System, Data, Boot, Recovery, Cache, .android_secure.
Which of these do I want to make sure are checked? The first backup I did I left the default (which was only System and Data) and now I am unable to restore to that backup (I just get a blank, dark screen). Looking through the forums it seems I may need to flash boot.img in order to restore?
So does that mean in the future I should make sure to also check the Book option when I create backups? Any others?
Thanks.
system, data, boot
leave the other 3 unchecked
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system, data, boot
leave the other 3 unchecked
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Thanks again for all of your help over the last few days!
Would the failure to check Boot on my first backup be the reason I am getting that blank screen when I try to restore? And is this fixable by flashing "boot.img" if I can find it somewhere?
Would the failure to check Boot on my first backup be the reason I am getting that blank screen when I try to restore? > yes
And is this fixable by flashing "boot.img" if I can find it somewhere? > yes from another backup from siimar rom through the backup utility from twrp, but just flashing a rom would be easier
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And is this fixable by flashing "boot.img" if I can find it somewhere? > yes from another backup from siimar rom through the backup utility from twrp, but just flashing a rom would be easier
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You could probably just flash the same ROM you made the backup from and then just restore the data from that backup through TWRP. Then you'd be back to the same setup you tried to backup originally, right?
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If you want your backup to work after you do it - don't touch the default selection.
And this is also the reason you don't see any threads about it. All those who don't understand what each partition does just don't touch anything, and all those that understand don't write about it.
Read more to see why the first suggestion you got (system, data, boot) might fail you.
Backing up recovery in recovery is useless, though.
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If you want your backup to work after you do it - don't touch the default selection.
And this is also the reason you don't see any threads about it. All those who don't understand what each partition does just don't touch anything, and all those that understand don't write about it.
Read more to see why the first suggestion you got (system, data, boot) might fail you.
Backing up recovery in recovery is useless, though.
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My initial backup was made just with the default - first two boxes ticked. Unfortunately I now cannot get that backup to recover and boot, which is why I am asking. What else might be the cause or how would you suggest I try to solve?
Also, apologies but I dont understand what you mean when you say "Backing up recovery in recovery is useless, though." Do you mean this isnt the best way to make a backup/nandroid to recover to?
Alright, here's a short explanation to get you started:
/boot - your kernel partition. Without it the ROM won't boot.
/system - your ROM.
/data - user data, all the apps and app settings that user has.
/.android_secure - all the apps that are on SD (or USB storage).
/cache - temporary place for storing downloads, exchanging data with recovery and such.
/recovery - where your recovery resides.
From this you should be able to understand why it's useless to backup recovery partition - you won't be able to restore it if you don't have custom recovery in place, and if you have custom recovery in place - you don't need to restore this partition, it's already populated.
This should also tell you why you need .android_secure. Some apps are still installed by default to SD card, and these will be lost if you don't back it up.
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Alright, here's a short explanation to get you started:
/boot - your kernel partition. Without it the ROM won't boot.
/system - your ROM.
/data - user data, all the apps and app settings that user has.
/.android_secure - all the apps that are on SD (or USB storage).
/cache - temporary place for storing downloads, exchanging data with recovery and such.
/recovery - where your recovery resides.
From this you should be able to understand why it's useless to backup recovery partition - you won't be able to restore it if you don't have custom recovery in place, and if you have custom recovery in place - you don't need to restore this partition, it's already populated.
This should also tell you why you need .android_secure. Some apps are still installed by default to SD card, and these will be lost if you don't back it up.
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Thanks. I think I misunderstood your initial post. When you said "system, data, boot" advice might fail me, I thought you meant NOT to backup boot. But I think you meant to ALSO backup .android_secure, not to avoid backing up boot.
When doing a recover, is it generally advised to do full cache, davlik wipe and factory reset, like when flashing a new ROM?
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When doing a recover, is it generally advised to do full cache, davlik wipe and factory reset, like when flashing a new ROM?
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I never do any of the wipes and never have had a problem when restoring a nandroid.
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I never do any of the wipes and never have had a problem when restoring a nandroid.
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and you're totally wrong...the only "cleaning" the restore function is doing is erasing boot before restoring (to at least protect from statements like yours) , imagine you restore a windows image over another windows installation ...
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and you're totally wrong...the only "cleaning" the restore function is doing is erasing boot before restoring (to at least protect from statements like yours) , imagine you restore a windows image over another windows installation ...
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Only erasing boot? So the only thing that remotely connects to what you're saying would be boot.IMG which is the kernel in which case you would be incorrect. Please if you plan on correcting someone at least be concise so people understand the point you are trying to convey.
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Only erasing boot? So the only thing that remotely connects to what you're saying would be boot.IMG which is the kernel in which case you would be incorrect. Please if you plan on correcting someone at least be concise so people understand the point you are trying to convey.
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LOL. Can't we all just get along.
Since I'm not one to speak for others I'll only guess that what he was trying to get at is restoring only erases the boot.img. It then restores boot.img, system, data, android.secure, and cache. So in theory it doesn't actually erase any of the remaining partitions. It just writes over them. Whether or not this leaves any residual parts of any of the partitions has been a source of debate for quite some time. If it does format the partitions before restore there is no indication textually that I have seen.
Carry on.
EDIT: I might as well point this out before some one else does. The restores I stated above where done from CWM not TWRP. I forget what the thread was originally about. For that I apologize. The logic behind the post stands for either recovery though.
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and you're totally wrong...the only "cleaning" the restore function is doing is erasing boot before restoring (to at least protect from statements like yours) , imagine you restore a windows image over another windows installation ...
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Maybe. But a couple of points. First, I've never had any issues. Second, have you watched what happens when you restore?
Wiping system.....
Formatting system....
Restoring system....
Wiping data....
Formatting data....
Restoring data....
Restoring boot...
This is on twrp 2.3.3.0 and 2.4.0.0. So technically it does the wipes for you.
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So TWRP restore system, data, cache before boot ? Big fail...
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So TWRP restore system, data, cache before boot ? Big fail...
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Is this even English because I can't understand the point of this sentence. Was it meant to be an insult? It honestly makes no sense.
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Is this even English because I can't understand the point of this sentence. Was it meant to be an insult? It honestly makes no sense.
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It's Japanese
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It's Japanese
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So basically you have no idea what you're saying. I guess I'll go back to my being concise point
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So TWRP restore system, data, cache before boot ? Big fail...
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You're obviously a CWM guy. I'm a TWRP guy. Both are good recoveries and used by many. So use what you're comfortable with and you know works.
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Looking for a way to revert back to stock recovery i'm currently on 4.1.1 stock rom with twrp recovery installed is this possible i have searched the internet for it could find it also i don't not want to re flash the firmware again and lose everything
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Looking for a way to revert back to stock recovery i'm currently on 4.1.1 stock rom with twrp recovery installed is this possible i have searched the internet for it could find it also i don't not want to re flash the firmware again and lose everything
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I have not been successful flashing stock recovery as a blob or img file; and yes I have tried.
I have always had to flash the complete firmware which means total loss of apps and data.
You could consider backing up your apps and data with many of the options available. Many swear by titanium backup. I don't use it. Maybe search for backup apps that also handle data.
I use app2zip pro or rom toolbox pro and just bite the bullet for any data lost.
Good Luck!
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I have not been successful flashing stock recovery as a blob or img file; and yes I have tried.
I have always had to flash the complete firmware which means total loss of apps and data.
You could consider backing up your apps and data with many of the options available. Many swear by titanium backup. I don't use it. Maybe search for backup apps that also handle data.
I use app2zip pro or rom toolbox pro and just bite the bullet for any data lost.
Good Luck!
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There still has to be a way to extract the recovery from it tho. I mean wouldn't it possible to do so we can flash things through fast boot can't we dump it through it
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There still has to be a way to extract the recovery from it tho. I mean wouldn't it possible to do so we can flash things through fast boot can't we dump it through it
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We can extract recovery and everything else using blobtools.
See post #14 in this thread.
Is it possible to return to stock without losing my data? My data really isn't that necessary, as I could make a TB backup and save it to the internal memory, but the main question is: Can I return to stock ROM without having to to wipe my internal memory?
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Is it possible to return to stock without losing my data? My data really isn't that necessary, as I could make a TB backup and save it to the internal memory, but the main question is: Can I return to stock ROM without having to to wipe my internal memory?
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no. of course you can set it for google to restore your settings, and apps with settings, but your data will get wiped.
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no. of course you can set it for google to restore your settings, and apps with settings, but your data will get wiped.
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Alright, thanks
Yes you can. Just download the stock factory image and extract it. Then using adb (I hope you know how if not tell me and I'll try to explain) flash the recovery, system, and boot images. That will restore your stock ROM, kernel, and recovery. Just don't flash the userdata image and all your internal data on your "SD card" will be fine. All you have to do is restore your titanium backup apps and all their data will still be there and your pictures and everything will all be available.
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Yes you can. Just download the stock factory image and extract it. Then using adb (I hope you know how if not tell me and I'll try to explain) flash the recovery, system, and boot images. That will restore your stock ROM, kernel, and recovery. Just don't flash the userdata image and all your internal data on your "SD card" will be fine. All you have to do is restore your titanium backup apps and all their data will still be there and your pictures and everything will all be available.
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Provided your bootloader is unlocked
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Provided your bootloader is unlocked
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Well his boot loader has to be unlocked to run a custom ROM.
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abdel12345 said:
Yes you can. Just download the stock factory image and extract it. Then using adb (I hope you know how if not tell me and I'll try to explain) flash the recovery, system, and boot images. That will restore your stock ROM, kernel, and recovery. Just don't flash the userdata image and all your internal data on your "SD card" will be fine. All you have to do is restore your titanium backup apps and all their data will still be there and your pictures and everything will all be available.
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Cool I was wondering this too as I made a nandroid when I first started but not sure I had all my apps set up yet. From here I would just reflash twrp and reroot, correct?
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ldubs said:
Cool I was wondering this too as I made a nandroid when I first started but not sure I had all my apps set up yet. From here I would just reflash twrp and reroot, correct?
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Yes but you'll still lose your apps just not the internal data so make sure you backup with titanium. It'll be like flashing a new ROM.
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