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Hey all, I just wanted to put a question out to see if anyone else may be experiencing this issue. I got my I9003 last year in March and after few months I noticed that the display Glass/Screen is coming out or slightly popping out of the frame of the phone on the top edge. It appears as if it is put on with adhesive that is not working to well. The bottom edge feels good, the edge is slightly up beyond the glass, but on the top edge, the glass is coming above the level of the edge. Initially, it was very slight, and the glass would go inside to fit in the frame when i push it. But recently, the problem has amplified, the difference between the glass and the frame has increased much, and the MAIN PROBLEM is that due to a small gap on the top, dust has entered and my front camera is all filled with dirt. Now I fear that if dust enters above the sensors (proximity and light), that would make the the phone quite less useful.
I would appreciate it if anyone else has noticed this if they could let me, and others know. And also if the the phone can be replaced in guarantee period for this problem (manufacturer's defect).
Thanks.
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Hey all, I just wanted to put a question out to see if anyone else may be experiencing this issue. I got my I9003 last year in March and after few months I noticed that the display Glass/Screen is coming out or slightly popping out of the frame of the phone on the top edge. It appears as if it is put on with adhesive that is not working to well. The bottom edge feels good, the edge is slightly up beyond the glass, but on the top edge, the glass is coming above the level of the edge. Initially, it was very slight, and the glass would go inside to fit in the frame when i push it. But recently, the problem has amplified, the difference between the glass and the frame has increased much, and the MAIN PROBLEM is that due to a small gap on the top, dust has entered and my front camera is all filled with dirt. Now I fear that if dust enters above the sensors (proximity and light), that would make the the phone quite less useful.
I would appreciate it if anyone else has noticed this if they could let me, and others know. And also if the the phone can be replaced in guarantee period for this problem (manufacturer's defect).
Thanks.
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Did the phone fell from your hand to the floor. I had this problem earlier and top right side of the screen bulged out from the edge. My hardware got some problem and i got the handset replacd
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sirilpta said:
Did the phone fell from your hand to the floor. I had this problem earlier and top right side of the screen bulged out from the edge. My hardware got some problem and i got the handset replacd
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No, the phone is kept/handled with utmost care and LOVE
Never dropped it even 1 feet distance. This problem, as i mentioned earlier, was since long time back, but only it gets into my notice more often now, just because of the dirty camera.
i noticed same thing not from fall.right top edge of glass.
DeepakG said:
No, the phone is kept/handled with utmost care and LOVE
Never dropped it even 1 feet distance. This problem, as i mentioned earlier, was since long time back, but only it gets into my notice more often now, just because of the dirty camera.
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When you put your mobile in the pocket of a tight jean will also cause this problem when you move your mobile gets stressed and popping of upper portion of screen happens
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sirilpta said:
When you put your mobile in the pocket of a tight jean will also cause this problem when you move your mobile gets stressed and popping of upper portion of screen happens
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ya, makes sense. but i don't keep it in my jeans pocket often, very rarely. if you have any idea, then please tell me if it would be worth visiting the customer care office.
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ya, makes sense. but i don't keep it in my jeans pocket often, very rarely. if you have any idea, then please tell me if it would be worth visiting the customer care office.
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Goto the customer service and say them that the mobile earpiece's upper portion gets overheated when charging and as a result the upper body part is popping out slowly due to heating... Hope this would help you..
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sirilpta said:
Goto the customer service and say them that the mobile earpiece's upper portion gets overheated when charging and as a result the upper body part is popping out slowly due to heating... Hope this would help you..
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Thanks for the tip.
Will visit soon and explain them (with extras). Lets see if they replace, or at least fix it.
Sorry for bumping, but i'd just like to report that i'm also experiencing this. Apparently the same thing happened with some galaxy tab's too.
I am the oldest user of i9003 bought the 1st lot of phone made on 4th Feb 2011 but since then never heard of this problem, seems a particular batch problem with sicking glue.
Take it to service center either they will repair it of replace it.
took it to the service center. they didn't replace the phone in whole but they changed the front panel, which holds the LCD (they said that the LCD is not separate but comes with the panel), with the LCD. anyways, i'm happy that the package feels nice touch and hold now
How much time it will take to fix it by service center
DeepakG said:
took it to the service center. they didn't replace the phone in whole but they changed the front panel, which holds the LCD (they said that the LCD is not separate but comes with the panel), with the LCD. anyways, i'm happy that the package feels nice touch and hold now
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How much time it will take to fix it by service center
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I took it on a Saturday. They told me they'll fix it by the coming Tuesday. Although I could collect it only on the next Saturday.
Even i noticed this.
Planning to take it to the centre, should I as a precaution remove all mods, root n stuff before giving it to them
ybyb said:
Even i noticed this.
Planning to take it to the centre, should I as a precaution remove all mods, root n stuff before giving it to them
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Just reflash a stock rom clean and give it to them
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sgsI9003 said:
Take it to service center either they will repair it of replace it.
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Bit hard when i imported the phone, lol. I'll just leave it - it isn't too bad and it doesn't seem to be getting any worse, heh.
The phone was fully submerged for about 5 seconds, i removed the back cover and the sim tray and put in a sealed bowl of rice for a day. It started up ok and i was able to make a call but the screen is very dim with no change if i adjust the brightness settings. I then just switched it off again and put it back in the rice as wasn't sure if this was because there may still be moisture in it. I didn't try any of the other functions so not sure if everything else still works. I am new to the site and a noob with phones so was just looking for advice on where i should go from here. Do i phone Alcatel? phone my service provider? repair centre (will it cost alot)? Wait it out? or try starting it up again? (its been in the rice another day) Will my warranty be void? Can the dim screen be fixed DIY?
Sorry for the many questions i've never had this happen and its the first contract phone I've had and only for two months
Hoping for help
DAferr said:
The phone was fully submerged for about 5 seconds, i removed the back cover and the sim tray and put in a sealed bowl of rice for a day. It started up ok and i was able to make a call but the screen is very dim with no change if i adjust the brightness settings. I then just switched it off again and put it back in the rice as wasn't sure if this was because there may still be moisture in it. I didn't try any of the other functions so not sure if everything else still works. I am new to the site and a noob with phones so was just looking for advice on where i should go from here. Do i phone Alcatel? phone my service provider? repair centre (will it cost alot)? Wait it out? or try starting it up again? (its been in the rice another day) Will my warranty be void? Can the dim screen be fixed DIY?
Sorry for the many questions i've never had this happen and its the first contract phone I've had and only for two months
Hoping for help
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It takes longer than a day to dry out. Also make sure you are using new rice from a sealed bag and putting it into a completely sealable container. Give it a few more days. Sometimes it takes a week to completely dry out.
kevev said:
It takes longer than a day to dry out. Also make sure you are using new rice from a sealed bag and putting it into a completely sealable container. Give it a few more days. Sometimes it takes a week to completely dry out.
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Thanks for the reply and advice. Its in an airtight container. The rice was boxed rice but not in a bag will this make a big difference? should i swap some bagged rice into the container when i can get some? I was tempted earlier to try it again but glad i didn't after reading your post i'll give it a few more days. Do you think the dim screen problem may sort its self out with extra time to dry out? Any idea why it was so dim?
Fingers crossed
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DAferr said:
Thanks for the reply and advice. Its in an airtight container. The rice was boxed rice but not in a bag will this make a big difference? should i swap some bagged rice into the container when i can get some? I was tempted earlier to try it again but glad i didn't after reading your post i'll give it a few more days. Do you think the dim screen problem may sort its self out with extra time to dry out? Any idea why it was so dim?
Fingers crossed
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Box rice will have absorbed all the moisture it can while on the shelf. Yes use bagged rice. Dim screen is usually water affecting screen. The backlight will not light up. It is a safety feature if a short is detected anywhere in the device.
kevev said:
Box rice will have absorbed all the moisture it can while on the shelf. Yes use bagged rice. Dim screen is usually water affecting screen. The backlight will not light up. It is a safety feature if a short is detected anywhere in the device.
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Transferred it into some bagged rice. Gonna try stop myself from trying to start it up until Sunday night. Happened on wed morning do you think that will be long enough of a wait.
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It's a pretty common problem. You should take to a repair center. It's sounds like pm (Power management) ic gone bad. It' not user serviceable. Forget that rice bs. Take to a professional and get it repaired as fast as possible. Warranty won't cover this.
Sportsmaster said:
It's a pretty common problem. You should take to a repair center. It's sounds like pm (Power management) ic gone bad. It' not user serviceable. Forget that rice bs. Take to a professional and get it repaired as fast as possible. Warranty won't cover this.
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Why "as fast as possible" ? is it not worth waiting to see if the rice thing works then if not go down the repair centre route?
DAferr said:
Why "as fast as possible" ? is it not worth waiting to see if the rice thing works then if not go down the repair centre route?
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His running the risk of messing up his board completely. The fault is becoming more expensive. Who knows where the water has gotten in. That rise trick is lame and it doesn't work. Some youtube celebrity made it up for views and subs and what not. There are people educated who feed there family by working as repair technicians. Digital ic are very fragile and he is corrupting his memory more and more as time goes bye.
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His running the risk of messing up his board completely. The fault is becoming more expensive. Who knows where the water has gotten in. That rise trick is lame and it doesn't work. Some youtube celebrity made it up for views and subs and what not. There are people educated who feed there family by working as repair technicians. Digital ic are very fragile and he is corrupting his memory more and more as time goes bye.
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I saw that you are the op. Pay the piper and next time don't be a fool and mind your phone.
Sportsmaster said:
His running the risk of messing up his board completely. The fault is becoming more expensive. Who knows where the water has gotten in. That rise trick is lame and it doesn't work. Some youtube celebrity made it up for views and subs and what not. There are people educated who feed there family by working as repair technicians. Digital ic are very fragile and he is corrupting his memory more and more as time goes bye.
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I saw that you are the op. Pay the piper and next time don't be a fool and mind your phone.
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Those dam celebs and their rice tricks wheres the piper so i can pay him?
out of the rice!
put the cover back on and charged it and started it up the screen wasn't coming on at all now then put a little pressure on the screen as the cover hadn't clicked in right and the faint screen showed up. Could barely see but managed to make a call and receive one. everything seems to work so far except the screen is still almost unreadable. also sometime when using the touchscreen it will go completely black again but randomly putting a bit of pressure on the screen with my thumbs it will then show up again for a while then it goes black agin at some point pop using the touch screen.
Any ideas what the problem is or what i should do now?
Also the dimness varies very slightly with pressure on the screen when trying to get it to come back on.
replace screen
Would replacing the screen fix the backlight problem or is the light produced from another part of the phone?
Fix Backlight???
Anyone know how to fix the backlight?
oh dear, what are you trying to get for a advice? you droped it into water. the water entered the phone, so there is no warranty. you can try to repair it, but when the corrosion starts it can affect every part of a phone (in days, weeks months). Of course you can repair the LCD and touch screen next time motherboard etc. It will definitely cost you more than a new 6039 device. So get over it and buy a new one, ther eis nothing you can do with it.
Just buy the 5.5 inch from cricket it us 129 right now unlocked it from unlock code either from eBay or several unlocker sites u can find with Google search. This is cheaper this n repairing it and u also get the better version of this phone.
My Moto Turbo went unresponsive sometime back after getting discharged. It never switched ON after i kept it in charging. After a couple of days of hoping it would come back to life i finally took it to Motorola authorized service center (IRLA, Vila Parle, Mumbai). My phone was well within warranty as it was bought in June 2015 but after making me run around to the service station and wait for one and a half hours i was given the shocking news that the phone cannot be treated under warranty as there are signs of liquid damage!!! Since i was 110% sure my phone wasn't exposed to any water drenching or water spilling leave alone submersion i argued with them that it's not possible. Upon listening to my argument the service center head called me to his office cabin and tried to show and explain me the issue. There were white residual marks near the ear piece and camera area inside the phone on the motherboard which were evidence of liquid damage but the only possibility for same was sweat. Now the company claims that the device is water resistant / splash proof and then when something like this happens they say they can't touch it! This is such bull @#&* on the company's part. A mail with snaps of the affected area to the service center area manager and lenovo manager showed zero support and arrogance. Further a call to Motorola customer care showed same or more negligence. I request the XDA community to help me raise this issue with the company and help me out over here.
The pics aren't super clear but it does look like there has been quite a bit of moisture in the phone, and that is likely what caused the damage. Maybe try disconnecting the battery, cleaning the PCB with alcohol and then reconnecting the battery. I doubt you will win a battle for a warranty claim.
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The pics aren't super clear but it does look like there has been quite a bit of moisture in the phone, and that is likely what caused the damage. Maybe try disconnecting the battery, cleaning the PCB with alcohol and then reconnecting the battery. I doubt you will win a battle for a warranty claim.
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Hi Steve,
Thanks for the suggestion. Will try and do that and see.
That's very unfortunate to hear. Another possibility was if you shower with the phone in the bathroom. The hot moisture/humidity really takes a toll on the phone over a period of time, nearly identical to that of wetting a phone.
Anyhow, the reason why I'm saying this is because some people including myself have experienced that before. I'm sharing this with you just in case you also do that so you do not damage any future product you may have. Best of luck.
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Placing it in the freezer then out in the hot does this too. However the water should be relatively distilled. The dirt and oils that has already made it's way in there will bring the electrolytes out.
Does anyone have servis manual? Thanks
@emailrex Is your turbo gets back life or not? if not pm me or watsapp me on 8 4 0 8 8 0 5 0 0 2 will see if i can help you.
Hi Shreyas,
Nope it couldn't be made functional. If I may ask how would you attempt to repair it?
emailrex said:
Hi Shreyas,
Nope it couldn't be made functional. If I may ask how would you attempt to repair it?
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First sorry for my late reply. Busy in Exams . Actually i repair mobiles. By seeing the image where the moisture is taken on that part is related to the sensors area so at first investigation i didn't think that there is any issue with that. As u think that it cant be made functional i think i will just get a chance to try if it gets repaires it will be gain for u.
My Z5 got water damaged from fresh water pool. Everything was still working except that it didn't charge anymore.
I've tried a warranty claim but unfortunately, my phone has UB and it's rooted. The service center voided my warranty because the technician detected the unofficial firmware. When I pulled out my unit, it was already turned on. The tech noted corroded mobo from the results. I'm not sure if he opened up my phone but I was happy because everything was working again.
When I came home, I tried to insert my sim card which works with my spare phones. It says "No Service". I also can't see the sim number from the default "Myself" contact list in Phonebook. I tried manual and automatic search for network operators to no avail.
Do you guys think this is a hardware issue already? If yes, then I got a z5 phone which can't even handle the most basic purpose of one.
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how this happened? this phone should be water resistant upto 1 meter for 30 minutes
Bro, is your Z5 a brand-new or a second-hand?
Superrman said:
how this happened? this phone should be water resistant upto 1 meter for 30 minutes
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It wasn't even a meter and less than 30 minutes of dip. I even clean it with drinking water after every splash. I suspect that the chemical seal on backglass may have been loose over time as this unit have been with me for almost a year already.
sirdoha said:
Bro, is your Z5 a brand-new or a second-hand?
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I've owned this for almost a year already.
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boyq said:
I've owned this for almost a year already.
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Have u backup DRM key? If yes, you can simply restore it and relock your bootloader.
sirdoha said:
Have u backup DRM key? If yes, you can simply restore it and relock your bootloader.
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Warranty already expired :/. The price they're asking is too much. I'd rather buy a new phone than pay the warranty service contractor of Sony in our area.
I don't trust the water tightness of Sony phones anymore..
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boyq said:
Warranty already expired :/. The price they're asking is too much. I'd rather buy a new phone than pay the warranty service contractor of Sony in our area.
I don't trust the water tightness of Sony phones anymore..
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Mine Z5 which also have moisture in the camera after being with me while taking shower , was fixed totally FREE by the Sony Warranty Centre. Where do you live?
sirdoha said:
Mine Z5 which also have moisture in the camera after being with me while taking shower , was fixed totally FREE by the Sony Warranty Centre. Where do you live?
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Philippines.
Although I reported a water damage (physical damage), they voided my last remaining warranty due to unofficial firmware (I have UB/root). It's not like I had the chance to revert to stock after the phone had been water damaged..
The network signal was still good before I handed my phone to the service center. I'm not sure if the moisture inside damaged the chip responsible for the signal or it was the technician's fault assuming he opened up my phone or whatever.
They should've done pressure test FIRST and dried up what's inside if ever it's the chemical glue that's faulty over time. But what they did was to check the firmware first! I heard pressure test wasn't done because of the unofficial firmware. That's just so stupid of Sony.
The service center contractor is Telecom Concepts Inc. or TCI-Sony Philippines. I’m very disappointed. I've been using their products since the good old Sony Ericsson days. Now, I'm thinking of switching to those with better and competent after-sales support. Maybe it's time to go the Apple way.
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boyq said:
Philippines.
Although I reported a water damage (physical damage), they voided my last remaining warranty due to unofficial firmware (I have UB/root). It's not like I had the chance to revert to stock after the phone had been water damaged..
The network signal was still good before I handed my phone to the service center. I'm not sure if the moisture inside damaged the chip responsible for the signal or it was the technician's fault assuming he opened up my phone or whatever.
They should've done pressure test FIRST and dried up what's inside if ever it's the chemical glue that's faulty over time. But what they did was to check the firmware first! I heard pressure test wasn't done because of the unofficial firmware. That's just so stupid of Sony.
The service center contractor is Telecom Concepts Inc. or TCI-Sony Philippines. I’m very disappointed. I've been using their products since the good old Sony Ericsson days. Now, I'm thinking of switching to those with better and competent after-sales support. Maybe it's time to go the Apple way.
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Oh. I sympathize with you. Apple is a pretty good one, if you can live without root, xposed and mods, since iOS 10.3 is really difficult to jailbreak.
Found this in another post.
"I'll try answer it.
the custom rom trigger sony's security system and lock the phone. you need to flash the security system partition to fix it. the stock rom tft bundle doesn't have the image file needed to flash the security partition. thus, reflash a stock rom won't fix it. sony's security system is also very secure and at this time no one is able to hack it."
I suspect this is what happened to my phone! Apparently Sony DID this! I can't believe they rendered my device useless. I could've continued drying the device myself using rice or silica. This is totally unacceptable.
Update: Here's the post.
Update2: This can also be hardware issue just like this post.
I have ordered replacement signal cable and back cover glue in Aliexpress already. I hope it's just a faulty/corroded cable as I'll try to repair it myself. :/
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Mine got water damaged just by washing the screen under the tap . water got in and "no service", no front camera, blurred back camera , random reboot and no sd card problems appeared but i was lucky because it was summer and outside were 40c so the phone recovered in about a week but the sd card slot is gone forever...it can't detect any sd card so be careful with this sony devices because you can have big surprises.
I have dipped my phone on clorine water 3 times and it's water thight, just mic didn't work while it dries,
You need to verify if it's water tight by checking f the pressure sensor is changing when you press the screen ,that can maybe fin a little leak of the waterseal
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I've been playing around the service menu and tested the Pressure Sensor. In a solid waterproof phone, pressure should remain steady when acted upon by outside forces.
I simply tried to moderately blow some air into the USB port and there's a notable difference. Also removed the sim cap and sucked on the port. Air was clearly passing through.
I'm curious if it's just my phone with this issue in which case I'll replace it, or if it's a design fault, in which case you shouldn't submerge it.
In the screenshots you'll see the pressure difference. So please test this by accessing the service menu *#*#service#*#*, > tests > pressure sensor and simply blow some air into it.
And for the giggles and ranting, there's the sony talk thread https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...s-waterproof/m-p/1237116/highlight/true#M2652
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I've been playing around the service menu and tested the Pressure Sensor. In a solid waterproof phone, pressure should remain steady when acted upon by outside forces.
I simply tried moderately blowing some air into the USB port and there's a notable difference. Also removed the sim cap and sucked on the port. Air was clearly passing through.
I'm curious if it's just my phone with this issue in which case I'll replace it, or if it's a design fault, in which case you shouldn't submerge it.
In the screenshots you'll see the presiune difference. So please test this by accessing the service menu *#*#service#*#*, > tests > pressure sensor and simply blow some air into it.
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In Xperia Z3 there was a hole in the lower-left corner that if not covered by hand also let the pressure to drop down.
I think that every phone has to have some kind of a "blow off valve" to prevent internal pressure from rising when the phone heats up to avoid damaging the seals around the screen and the back.
Note that when you cover the usb port pressure stays perfectly stable. The phone is still waterproof it just lets the internals "breathe"
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In Xperia Z3 there was a hole in the lower-left corner that if not covered by hand also let the pressure to drop down.
I think that every phone has to have some kind of a "blow off valve" to prevent internal pressure from rising when the phone heats up to avoid damaging the seals around the screen and the back.
Note that when you cover the usb port pressure stays perfectly stable. The phone is still waterproof it just lets the internals "breathe"
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It's far more than a simple valve. For example if you have water in the port and you blow some air to take it out, that water will actually go inside the phone. I'm asking because if ever submerged, water pressure will be far grater than my air blowing capabilities ))) so things can get messy pretty fast.
It's far too easy to change the pressure inside it, so all I need to know is if other XZp are behaving the same way or if it's just mine.
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It's far more than a simple valve. For example if you have water in the port and you blow some air to take it out, that water will actually go inside the phone. I'm asking because if ever submerged, water pressure will be far grater than my air blowing capabilities ))) so things can get messy pretty fast.
It's far too easy to change the pressure inside it, so all I need to know is if other XZp are behaving the same way or if it's just mine.
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As I said Z3 behaved similarly and I have submerged this phone a couple of times and never had any problems with it. Note that air particles are much more able to squeeze through tight spaces than water.
Same principle aplies to waterproof jackets, they let the air pass through so that you wont get sweaty while at the same time the won't let water go through.
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As I said Z3 behaved similarly and I have submerged this phone a couple of times and never had any problems with it. Note that air particles are much more able to squeeze through tight spaces than water.
Same principle aplies to waterproof jackets, they let the air pass through so that you wont get sweaty while at the same time the won't let water go through.
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Yes man, I know what a valve is and how it operates in a phone. I've been having xperias for over 5 years. I'm not on Talk.sonymobile, I'm on xda. So if you can try the test whenever you can. All it takes is 1 minute.
I opened this thread because I need to see if mine has those rubber seals too loose or if it's a general and normal thing. I asked for xzp owners to try the test because on my phone air passes virtually unobstructed.
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Yes man, I know what a valve is and how it operates in a phone. I've been having xperias for over 5 years. I'm not on Talk.sonymobile, I'm on xda. So if you can try the test whenever you can. All it takes is 1 minute.
I opened this thread because I need to see if mine has those rubber seals too loose or if it's a general and normal thing. I asked for xzp owners to try the test because on my phone air passes virtually unobstructed.
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It works for me exactly the same way as you described. Sorry I didn't mean to patronise you in any way
There is a pressure regulation in every phone. The reason is the battery, in case the battery is defective (see Shamesung Note ), it will produce gas. This gas can later inflame, hence it is important to get it out of the device.
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There is a pressure regulation in every phone. The reason is the battery, in case the battery is defective (see Shamesung Note ), it will produce gas. This gas can later inflame, hence it is important to get it out of the device.
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I know, I just spent a lot of money on this thing and I'd rather avoid damaging it. In my opinion that valve is way too lose.
Check this video out, I do not agree with this idiotic test but in the end the phone got water damaged. Vibrator Motor is right next to the USB port which in this video it keeps on vibrating even after device is off.
https://youtu.be/Z3JUGkXXXJw?t=17m52s
I might be a bit paranoid but submerging this phone is not a good idea. Maybe something like this will help https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91LUJPpD45L._SL1500_.jpg
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It works for me exactly the same way as you described. Sorry I didn't mean to patronise you in any way
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I know, I'm sorry for jumping the gun. Didn't get a full night sleep.
I'm weary because I had Xperia XZ for a week, did the same test but the breathability on the usb port was minimum. Anyway, I'll be careful. My (very) old Xperia Z got water damaged in the pool due to a worn rubber band on the headphone jack. Damage was extensive.
Sebi673 said:
I know, I just spent a lot of money on this thing and I'd rather avoid damaging it. In my opinion that valve is way too lose.
Check this video out, I do not agree with this idiotic test but in the end the phone got water damaged. Vibrator Motor is right next to the USB port which in this video it keeps on vibrating even after device is off.
https://youtu.be/Z3JUGkXXXJw?t=17m52s
I might be a bit paranoid but submerging this phone is not a good idea. Maybe something like this will help https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91LUJPpD45L._SL1500_.jpg
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If damaged by submerging, I'd send it on for guarantee and request a new one. It states IP68 proof, that means 30 minutens fully submerged.
Oh and btw, the guy actually FROZE his phone for 12 hours .
Illux said:
If damaged by submerging, I'd send it on for guarantee and request a new one. It states IP68 proof, that means 30 minutens fully submerged.
Oh and btw, the guy actually FROZE his phone for 12 hours .
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I know.... It's an idiotic test. But leaving that aside, it is compared to another waterproof phone which worked as good as new afterwards. So it's safe too assume that the USB might be letting in a bit more than just data and power.
It's a bit of a letdown, I'll wait for the teardown videos to see if they finally coated the motherboard and other boards against water ingress. Just like you see in the iphone and samsung.
Sebi673 said:
I know.... It's an idiotic test. But leaving that aside, it is compared to another waterproof phone which worked as good as new afterwards. So it's safe too assume that the USB might be letting in a bit more than just data and power.
It's a bit of a letdown, I'll wait for the teardown videos to see if they finally coated the motherboard and other boards against water ingress. Just like you see in the iphone and samsung.
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Well, I'm the kinda guy who tries out things if promised . What I can tell you, my phone spent a fair amount of time submerged already, I always wanted to try out underwater video recording. No real sense in it, but it's fun .
Still working and it's drying real quick.
Illux said:
Well, I'm the kinda guy who tries out things if promised . What I can tell you, my phone spent a fair amount of time submerged already, I always wanted to try out underwater video recording. No real sense in it, but it's fun .
Still working and it's drying real quick.
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I know it's fun, it's even more so when you wash it in the sink in front of people haha. Can you please do me a solid and test the pressure sensor while blowing air into the usb? like I tried - 2 cm away, full lung pressure on the usb, and tell me if that pressure rapidly moves up. It will help me sleep better at night after I wash the thing haha.
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I know it's fun, it's even more so when you wash it in the sink in front of people haha. Can you please do me a solid and test the pressure sensor while blowing air into the usb? like I tried - 2 cm away, full lung pressure on the usb, and tell me if that pressure rapidly moves up. It will help me sleep better at night after I wash the thing haha.
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I'll do so in 13 minutes, im currently running a battery test. Just as side note, Amazon Underground seems to drain battery like hell on 7.1.
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Sebi673 said:
I know it's fun, it's even more so when you wash it in the sink in front of people haha. Can you please do me a solid and test the pressure sensor while blowing air into the usb? like I tried - 2 cm away, full lung pressure on the usb, and tell me if that pressure rapidly moves up. It will help me sleep better at night after I wash the thing haha.
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Ok, done. Pressure going up rapidly. Consider it normal.
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I'll do so in 13 minutes, im currently running a battery test. Just as side note, Amazon Underground seems to drain battery like hell on 7.1.
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Ok, done. Pressure going up rapidly. Consider it normal.
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YAY!!!! Paranoid Parrot now returning to its cage :victory:
Mine does the same
I have the same problem and my xzp had water damaged,they changed me a new one which still have this problem....I will not try twice.Maybe this is a manufacturing problem.
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I have the same problem and my xzp had water damaged,they changed me a new one which still have this problem....I will not try twice.Maybe this is a manufacturing problem.
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It's a design flaw then..... I'll buy the usb silicon caps just to be extra safe.... Shame they didn't manage to build this properly.....
Forgive me my ignorance. I know it's stupid question and I know answer will be yes, but it's always worth double checking.
So I can submerge xz premium without any usb/jack and other ports covers as they were just designed to be able to handle that?
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Forgive me my ignorance. I know it's stupid question and I know answer will be yes, but it's always worth double checking.
So I can submerge xz premium without any usb/jack and other ports covers as they were just designed to be able to handle that?
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Yes, that is the idea behind IP68 certification. I dumped my phone in the pool yesterday, just for fun. Just PLEASE make sure to dry the phone before charging it. I know that sounds stupid but there is some photos around of ppl claiming their devices just started burning. Due to the nature of energy transport in USB-C 3.1, that is almost impossible - unless you short-circuit it with water .