"No Service" after water damage - Xperia Z5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My Z5 got water damaged from fresh water pool. Everything was still working except that it didn't charge anymore.
I've tried a warranty claim but unfortunately, my phone has UB and it's rooted. The service center voided my warranty because the technician detected the unofficial firmware. When I pulled out my unit, it was already turned on. The tech noted corroded mobo from the results. I'm not sure if he opened up my phone but I was happy because everything was working again.
When I came home, I tried to insert my sim card which works with my spare phones. It says "No Service". I also can't see the sim number from the default "Myself" contact list in Phonebook. I tried manual and automatic search for network operators to no avail.
Do you guys think this is a hardware issue already? If yes, then I got a z5 phone which can't even handle the most basic purpose of one.
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how this happened? this phone should be water resistant upto 1 meter for 30 minutes

Bro, is your Z5 a brand-new or a second-hand?

Superrman said:
how this happened? this phone should be water resistant upto 1 meter for 30 minutes
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It wasn't even a meter and less than 30 minutes of dip. I even clean it with drinking water after every splash. I suspect that the chemical seal on backglass may have been loose over time as this unit have been with me for almost a year already.
sirdoha said:
Bro, is your Z5 a brand-new or a second-hand?
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I've owned this for almost a year already.
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boyq said:
I've owned this for almost a year already.
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Have u backup DRM key? If yes, you can simply restore it and relock your bootloader.

sirdoha said:
Have u backup DRM key? If yes, you can simply restore it and relock your bootloader.
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Warranty already expired :/. The price they're asking is too much. I'd rather buy a new phone than pay the warranty service contractor of Sony in our area.
I don't trust the water tightness of Sony phones anymore..
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boyq said:
Warranty already expired :/. The price they're asking is too much. I'd rather buy a new phone than pay the warranty service contractor of Sony in our area.
I don't trust the water tightness of Sony phones anymore..
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Mine Z5 which also have moisture in the camera after being with me while taking shower , was fixed totally FREE by the Sony Warranty Centre. Where do you live?

sirdoha said:
Mine Z5 which also have moisture in the camera after being with me while taking shower , was fixed totally FREE by the Sony Warranty Centre. Where do you live?
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Philippines.
Although I reported a water damage (physical damage), they voided my last remaining warranty due to unofficial firmware (I have UB/root). It's not like I had the chance to revert to stock after the phone had been water damaged..
The network signal was still good before I handed my phone to the service center. I'm not sure if the moisture inside damaged the chip responsible for the signal or it was the technician's fault assuming he opened up my phone or whatever.
They should've done pressure test FIRST and dried up what's inside if ever it's the chemical glue that's faulty over time. But what they did was to check the firmware first! I heard pressure test wasn't done because of the unofficial firmware. That's just so stupid of Sony.
The service center contractor is Telecom Concepts Inc. or TCI-Sony Philippines. I’m very disappointed. I've been using their products since the good old Sony Ericsson days. Now, I'm thinking of switching to those with better and competent after-sales support. Maybe it's time to go the Apple way.
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boyq said:
Philippines.
Although I reported a water damage (physical damage), they voided my last remaining warranty due to unofficial firmware (I have UB/root). It's not like I had the chance to revert to stock after the phone had been water damaged..
The network signal was still good before I handed my phone to the service center. I'm not sure if the moisture inside damaged the chip responsible for the signal or it was the technician's fault assuming he opened up my phone or whatever.
They should've done pressure test FIRST and dried up what's inside if ever it's the chemical glue that's faulty over time. But what they did was to check the firmware first! I heard pressure test wasn't done because of the unofficial firmware. That's just so stupid of Sony.
The service center contractor is Telecom Concepts Inc. or TCI-Sony Philippines. I’m very disappointed. I've been using their products since the good old Sony Ericsson days. Now, I'm thinking of switching to those with better and competent after-sales support. Maybe it's time to go the Apple way.
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Oh. I sympathize with you. Apple is a pretty good one, if you can live without root, xposed and mods, since iOS 10.3 is really difficult to jailbreak.

Found this in another post.
"I'll try answer it.
the custom rom trigger sony's security system and lock the phone. you need to flash the security system partition to fix it. the stock rom tft bundle doesn't have the image file needed to flash the security partition. thus, reflash a stock rom won't fix it. sony's security system is also very secure and at this time no one is able to hack it."
I suspect this is what happened to my phone! Apparently Sony DID this! I can't believe they rendered my device useless. I could've continued drying the device myself using rice or silica. This is totally unacceptable.
Update: Here's the post.
Update2: This can also be hardware issue just like this post.
I have ordered replacement signal cable and back cover glue in Aliexpress already. I hope it's just a faulty/corroded cable as I'll try to repair it myself. :/
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Mine got water damaged just by washing the screen under the tap . water got in and "no service", no front camera, blurred back camera , random reboot and no sd card problems appeared but i was lucky because it was summer and outside were 40c so the phone recovered in about a week but the sd card slot is gone forever...it can't detect any sd card so be careful with this sony devices because you can have big surprises.

I have dipped my phone on clorine water 3 times and it's water thight, just mic didn't work while it dries,
You need to verify if it's water tight by checking f the pressure sensor is changing when you press the screen ,that can maybe fin a little leak of the waterseal
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[Q] Anyone been charged for repairs? FORGOT MICROSD CARD! :(

I've had my TF101 since launch and recently purchased a dock. Only trackpad on the dock works, none of the keys work. Tried the dock on another tf101 and it worked fine. After trying different roms and reverting to stock, came to the point where I had to send it in to Asus.
My question is, my bezel has 2 dents/knocks on the bottom corners, what are the chances Asus is going to say it's customer induced damaged and charge me for the repairs?
I remember reading a thread where someone had the same issue but I can't find it. Also I forgot to mention my light bleed had gotten worse and the rear case creaks, can I call them back up and tell them about that?
UPDATE: I just remembered that I complete forgot my 32GB microSD in the TF and it has a bunch of custom rom .zip files in it! What are the chances I get my microSD card back with my tF if they do replace the bezel?
*Sigh*
It's 50/50 about the chances that they will call it customer induced damage.
Go ahead and call them up and tell them about it.
I'll be honest. Chances are you won't get your sdcard back. There's been too many reports of people not getting their stuff back. Here's why. In order to take out the bezel, they will need to remove the microsdcard. Chances are the card will get lost because it is so small.
My condolences.
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On a lighter note, here's a funny story. As you may know, I modify docks to solder in a 500/750gb hard drive. One time someone sent me his dock with his sdcard inside. I promised him I'd put pictures of the mod process inside his sdcard. When I opened it up, I found 16gb of gay porn inside. Thought it was hilarious.
Note that I am not homophobic. I date guys, actually. Still think that was hilarious. Hope you didn't leave your porn collection in there LOL.
Haha, thank you, but thankfully it's a fairly new card and haven't had time to put anything on it
I had the latest version of Prime! and Revolver roms on their along with cwm and root apk's. Also had some videos of a storm that rolled through here last week and I think that's about it. But I just got the card, and for a good deal so I'll be pretty upset if I don't get it back
Side story: A couple years back I found a memory stick someone had left in the student lab, so I opened it up seeing if I could identify the owner and get it back to him/her. Well, turns out it was loaded with BEASTIALITY porn! I unplugged that thing soo quick and threw it across the lab floor, I didn't want to be caught with that **** on university computers!
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Just got off the phone with Asus, I added the light bleed and rear case creak to my RMA but now i'm thinking I shouldn't have. This is probably going to make the repair longer and I'm planning on heading out of town next weekend, I highly doubt it's going to get back to me in time . Also it wasn't bothering me that much before and now i'm worried it's going to get back worse then before. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
Regarding the microSD, the rep said he'd have to escalate my case to get the card sent back to me asap but no guarantee. TF hasn't reached them yet, should arrive either later today or early tomorrow. fingers crossed.
With their computer components you get ~14 days to post mark the item after you setup your RMA. You may want to read the entire email for your RMA.
And generally, no, you won't get your card back unless they immediately see the dents and package it up and send it back to you. Normally, ASUS isn't too picky, but there have been horror stories about the Texas RMA facility, sorry to say. If they do claim it as user damage, then they will email you before they repair it and ask if you want it done.
Edit: for I can count to potato.
Got the delivery confirmation earlier today at noon, but the RMA status says they still haven't received it. I Know they usually take a while to update the status but i'm going to call tomorrow to check if they've mailed back my microSD card.
fone_fanatic said:
Got the delivery confirmation earlier today at noon, but the RMA status says they still haven't received it. I Know they usually take a while to update the status but i'm going to call tomorrow to check if they've mailed back my microSD card.
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The people in charge of updating your status can sometimes be pretty lazy. Last time I sent one in, confirmation said it arrived on monday, but their status said they hadn't received it until thursday. In fact, on thursday alone, it changed from not recieved to repairing to being inspected to ready to be shipped.
It's obvious they do everything and then changed the statuses all at once.
I just sent mine into the TX RMA facility and received notiifcation that the cracked screen was due to customer induced damage. I have babied that damn thing since day one and it's always been in a case when not docked in the keyboard. All this to say, if my experience is any indication, it doesn't matter what happened, they will blame it on you and you'll have to pay. Good luck, ASUS customer support is a joke.
vf171 said:
I just sent mine into the TX RMA facility and received notiifcation that the cracked screen was due to customer induced damage. I have babied that damn thing since day one and it's always been in a case when not docked in the keyboard. All this to say, if my experience is any indication, it doesn't matter what happened, they will blame it on you and you'll have to pay. Good luck, ASUS customer support is a joke.
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How did the screen crack?
My guess is cracked either closing it while docked to the keyboard or from inserting it into the dock/keyboard. Not sure which. It's never been dropped, abused, or misused that is for sure. I was told by the tech and her manager that the LCD screen never fails because of defects. It's always because of customer induced damage. That was an wesome hour-long conversation.
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My guess is cracked either closing it while docked to the keyboard or from inserting it into the dock/keyboard. Not sure which. It's never been dropped, abused, or misused that is for sure.
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If this is the case, then it's still customer induced damage.
I was told by the tech and her manager that the LCD screen never fails because of defects. It's always because of customer induced damage. That was an wesome hour-long conversation.
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Haha, if they said this, then it's total BS.
vf171 said:
My guess is cracked either closing it while docked to the keyboard or from inserting it into the dock/keyboard. Not sure which. It's never been dropped, abused, or misused that is for sure. I was told by the tech and her manager that the LCD screen never fails because of defects. It's always because of customer induced damage. That was an wesome hour-long conversation.
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That sucks. I had a dell streak 5" and they manufactured it by putting the digitzer on the lcd too tight. So if you'd tap normally in any of the corners it would show on the lcd as if you're pushing really hard on it. Someone on xda posted that dell had acknowledged it's their fault so a bunch of people sent theirs in for repair, but I guess they got flooded with repairs that the customer service was told the LCD was not covered. Had a fun convo with one gentleman who kept assuring me that the LCD was software and not covered by dell's hardware warranty!
In the end I just told them it was white in the corner, although the lcd was clearly damaged, sent it in and they mailed me a new one without charging me .
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If this is the case, then it's still customer induced damage.
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Really? That's like saying if GM designed the tailgate on a pick up with a defect and when you closed it, using normal, proper methods and forces, if it breaks that is customer induced damage.
My point is that unless I'm doing something that is prohibited in the warranty (abuse/misues) then the damage should be covered because it obviously is a result of a defect (manufacturing, design, etc..., take your pick I don't care which). Your logic (and ASUS') suggests that ALL damage that occurs while a customer is using the device is customer induced. So the only way to avoid customer induced damage is to not use your device. Genius.
Really, I was just sharing a data point for the OP to consider since he asked if the group thought ASUS would invoke the magical and all-encompassing "Customer Induced Damage".
So no one has yet to contact me about my microSD card although someone was supposed to. Called Asus up a few moments ago and rep said he'd put the escalation on high priority.
Also the charger on my dad's tf just went out so had to do another rma for that. Why do these companies insist on using proprietary ports?
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Really? That's like saying if GM designed the tailgate on a pick up with a defect and when you closed it, using normal, proper methods and forces, if it breaks that is customer induced damage.
My point is that unless I'm doing something that is prohibited in the warranty (abuse/misues) then the damage should be covered because it obviously is a result of a defect (manufacturing, design, etc..., take your pick I don't care which). Your logic (and ASUS') suggests that ALL damage that occurs while a customer is using the device is customer induced. So the only way to avoid customer induced damage is to not use your device. Genius.
Really, I was just sharing a data point for the OP to consider since he asked if the group thought ASUS would invoke the magical and all-encompassing "Customer Induced Damage".
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I guess in a sense you're right. You gotta understand, though, I've worked with a couple dozen units. Never had a problem with the dock causing any kind of physical damage. I'm just having a hard time visualizing how this was done.
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I guess in a sense you're right. You gotta understand, though, I've worked with a couple dozen units. Never had a problem with the dock causing any kind of physical damage. I'm just having a hard time visualizing how this was done.
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That is exactly my point! It would NEVER happen unless there was something wrong with the device or he dock.
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fone_fanatic said:
So no one has yet to contact me about my microSD card although someone was supposed to. Called Asus up a few moments ago and rep said he'd put the escalation on high priority.
Also the charger on my dad's tf just went out so had to do another rma for that. Why do these companies insist on using proprietary ports?
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Good luck. I just received notice that my TF shipped back today. I haven't decided if I'm going to and fix it or burn it in the backyard as I record it on my wife's iPad and upload to my new Facebook page, Asus Customer Service Sucks.
I did include all the original packaging and my wall adapter and power cord. I bet they don't make it back to me. I'd be interested to hear if your sd card makes it back.
I've had a couple folks ask to see a pic of the crack in my screen. Why can't I post directly from my phone?
I just checked the RMA status now and it finally updated from device not received to "Repairing". I guess this is a good sign as I've seen in other threads for those being charged or denied repairs had a different status.
Still no call from them regarding my microSD Said I would get a call 24-48hours from Thursday, I'll give them till afternoon today then I'll call them up and see what they have to say.
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I've had a couple folks ask to see a pic of the crack in my screen. Why can't I post directly from my phone?
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You can using the xda app, Sometimes uploads fail, but you can go into settings and change whether to upload the pic to xda or tapatalk's servers.
Just got my TF back and it's LOADED WITH ICS!!11!1!!!one11!!
ok, it's not... but on the bright side, my microSD card is still in it
As for the repair, the dock now works and I knew I shouldn't have said anything about the light bleed and case creak.
It does appear they put a new LCD and Digitizer, but now rather than having a couple light bleed spots that were only visible in the dark, there is now one really bright spot in the bottom left. I haven't even viewed it in the dark so don't know if there are more.
For the creak, looks like they just put something behind the case where the creak was, but now the rear case is sticking out by a few millimeters. This makes it hard to put the tablet in and out of the dock.
Also they didn't say anything or replace the dented bezel. I think i'm going to take things into my own hands and do what this guy did.
glad you got it back ,,,,, time for me to get an RMA mine will not power on so wish me luck now...
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glad you got it back ,,,,, time for me to get an RMA mine will not power on so wish me luck now...
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that sucks. Is your charger dead? Plug it into your pc overnight and see if that wakes it up.

Second faulty Z3 - screen glitches while scrolling

Hello all,
So my first Z3 broke the day I got it after getting wet. Was slightly annoyed. Spent two days finding an EE store that had one in stock to replace it. Finally, today I got my replacement Z3.
However, my joy was quickly shadowed by what appears to be faulty graphics, though hopefully one of you folks can shine some light on this issue.
Image: http://imgur.com/XmTsNNy
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuMhRA5dmtk
I'm getting black lines and glitches while scrolling in any app like Facebook, Reddit or even the phone's settings menu. The lines seem to actually replace entire letters, as you can see in the image above. I'm also getting some odd behaviour with live wallpapers, though games and benchmarks seem to run fine.
Anyone have any ideas? I've tried resetting it. I really don't want to have to go through the pain of finding a third replacement...
Edit: The actual problem seems constrained to one line of pixels, and flickers as text scrolls through that line.
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Hello all,
So my first Z3 broke the day I got it after getting wet. Was slightly annoyed. Spent two days finding an EE store that had one in stock to replace it. Finally, today I got my replacement Z3.
However, my joy was quickly shadowed by what appears to be faulty graphics, though hopefully one of you folks can shine some light on this issue.
Image: http://imgur.com/XmTsNNy
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuMhRA5dmtk
I'm getting black lines and glitches while scrolling in any app like Facebook, Reddit or even the phone's settings menu. The lines seem to actually replace entire letters, as you can see in the image above. I'm also getting some odd behaviour with live wallpapers, though games and benchmarks seem to run fine.
Anyone have any ideas? I've tried resetting it. I really don't want to have to go through the pain of finding a third replacement...
Edit: The actual problem seems constrained to one line of pixels, and flickers as text scrolls through that line.
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you should've taken it to sony repair center earlier maybe it's because of that replacement you did? why not try taking it to repair center now?
I'd take it back again. They should give you a brand new one if its within 28 days.
Sony repair centres I believe are hard to find in England, at least i've never seen one.
Your gpu or software relating to gpu is nackered. Take it back to EE, there are no sony centres in most UK now and they will repair not replace. Be reasonable with EE and they'll swap it out again but when they do, you sit in store and check everything, I did in o2 and found a fault but because I was in store they just immediately swapped. Better than any more trips and you know you've got a solid phone.
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Your gpu or software relating to gpu is nackered. Take it back to EE, there are no sony centres in most UK now and they will repair not replace. Be reasonable with EE and they'll swap it out again but when they do, you sit in store and check everything, I did in o2 and found a fault but because I was in store they just immediately swapped. Better than any more trips and you know you've got a solid phone.
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Completely agree with tihs. always open it in front of them and the fact you got a picture/ video as evidence will help your case.
corallus said:
Your gpu or software relating to gpu is nackered. Take it back to EE, there are no sony centres in most UK now and they will repair not replace. Be reasonable with EE and they'll swap it out again but when they do, you sit in store and check everything, I did in o2 and found a fault but because I was in store they just immediately swapped. Better than any more trips and you know you've got a solid phone.
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Thanks! I took it back and they tried telling me it was just because of a faulty sim card... -_- The same EE advisor also told me that the processor and RAM is inside the sim card, so I just needed to get a new sim and the issue would be fixed.
I'm not even joking.
Anyway, I was adamant that he replaced the phone and he did. The new unit is a beaut.
Thanks guys!
My beloved z3 cracked itself, let in water and died at 8 months old. I decided to claim on my insurance as I couldn't face the ordeal of trying to convince Sony that i hadn't damaged (or dropped/twisted/ hit/taken to below 1.5m of water etc) my phone and being told that I had damaged it myself and am either a liar or an idiot. My insurance company took nearly 3 weeks to return the repaired phone which was still very faulty, no Bluetooth, no wifi, no calls and no MAC address. I re-returned it, got it back again with the same faults and eventually got a new Z3 only to find screen faults of overall flickering and intermittent screen blurring like an old tv set.
I'll have to send this one back too, another week without a phone and another installation.
It is so sad that the Z3 which was by far my favourite phone so far and was hailed by Sony as robust and waterproof is so disappointing and fragile in real life. BTW my phone had always been in a case with screen protectors.

USB flap.....

Hey there!
Ive bought this Device 4 weeks ago. It was perfectly fine until now as the usb flap seems to not close properly anymore by charging etc. What can I do? It already got ripped off once but I've replaced it with a new one.
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Might affect the waterproof feature. Return it and get a magnetic charger.
They wont let me return it. Just for repair and I need this phone for work
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They wont let me return it. Just for repair and I need this phone for work
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If it's faulty I don't see how they can refuse to let you return it. It's not up to them!
Is the frame bent?
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If it's faulty I don't see how they can refuse to let you return it. It's not up to them!
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Easy - if it's a user-caused physical damage, most companies will refuse any returns and will only offer a repair . With the flap torn off or deformed to the point it can't close anymore, the company can NEVER be sure whether it was due to manufacturing defect OR because the user applied too much force when opening it, so for the company it's just safer to assume that it was a user-caused physical damage.
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Hey there!
Ive bought this Device 4 weeks ago. It was perfectly fine until now as the usb flap seems to not close properly anymore by charging etc. What can I do? It already got ripped off once but I've replaced it with a new one.
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What can you do? Basically, 2 things. Either rip the flap off if you don't NEED waterproof feature and continue using the microUSB cable for charging OR put a new flap and use a different charging cable, not microUSB but the one with magnet which can attach to the side "port" with exposed "pins", this way you will NEVER have to open the flap for charging. Or! Or find a different phone which can be both waterproof AND has wireless charging, these do exist, Samsung makes one It will have plastic body but hey, if your phone is a work tool and NOT just a toy for impressing your simple-minded "friends" with - plastic body is actually the better choice
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Easy - if it's a user-caused physical damage, most companies will refuse any returns and will only offer a repair . With the flap torn off or deformed to the point it can't close anymore, the company can NEVER be sure whether it was due to manufacturing defect OR because the user applied too much force when opening it, so for the company it's just safer to assume that it was a user-caused physical damage.
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They can assume what they want. I'd expect a flap to last more than 4 weeks and, personally, I'd pursue it and see what they say rather than just assuming.
Well, the problem is, that I already exchanged the flap with a new one because the old one just came off after 3 days of usage. Even then they refused as it is a damage which they thought was caused by mishandling the phone. I really care bout my things and handle them correctly, especially if its such a fragile device like the Z3 is. The first thing I did when I got it is drive to the city and buy an Adore June Soft case and I have no scratches or anything until now(no screen protector but i am thinking of that). So it wasn't my fault that it came off once in my eyes. It's just that it seems that there is a "left over" from the old flap inside the phone which means the new one doesn't fit correctly, sometimes it does sometimes it does not.
What shall I do if they just refuse it..
This is really frustrating bought a new one and even a NEEDLE thin tweezer to dig the bit inside the phone out. No way to get it out or anything near by that. Tried to put the new one in and guess what? It got stuck a bit so I had to turn it around and it snapped off! Now I have two of those **** things in side there. What to do? Send it to Sony? How much does that cost..?
Dude, just send it to Sony before you make even more scratches around the flap area with your tools. Or find a local smartphone repair shop (which can fix all smartphone models), they should be able to properly attach it for much cheaper price than Sony might charge you.
And like I mentioned before - consider using a cable which attaches to side "port" with magnet (it's called "Magnector" or whatever), OR switch to a different phone model from different manufacturer which doesn't require removing any flaps for charging. Then wait for brain-dead Sony "engineers" to release a proper carrier-free model with built-in wireless charging (like they did for Verizon), hopefully all of Z4 models will have that...
realfelix said:
Hey there!
Ive bought this Device 4 weeks ago. It was perfectly fine until now as the usb flap seems to not close properly anymore by charging etc. What can I do? It already got ripped off once but I've replaced it with a new one.
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yes this problem is facing me in my z3 Dual D6633 after relative 2 Months ago​
I am guessing not all markets get an extra one in the box. I have the T-Mobile version and mine has an extra one in the box.

Help! Shafted by Sony's incompetence and false waterproof claims!

Repair # 1-20162112859
My phone was left on the table while it was raining last week (flaps fully closed of course) and when I picked it up to check something after a while I saw it was turning itself off. After that it never came back alive no matter what I tried. I noticed the camera lenses had fully frosted up so it was apparent that water had seeped in somehow.
I dried the phone for over a day but it simply didn't work! I sent it to Sony for warranty repair as I expected it to be covered since I used it under their advertised conditions and you expect it to take a bit of rain at the minimum.
To my utter horror they have come back as saying that because the phone has some other physical damage on the other side (it has a very slight bend in the left side middle which i don't recall it having) it means that the warranty is automatically void and they don't even need to investigate the water damage or the reason why the waterproofing failed via faulty flaps! But the failed flap is the one on the opposite/right side where the SIM and memory card go! It doesn't even make sense!
I have attached the repair centre (SBE Ltd. UK) sent pictures as evidence.
I assure you that the 2 are completely unrelated and on the opposite sides of the phone. They are simply using cause and effect and not scientific tests to rub their hands off my claim. There are plenty threads online showing that Sony Z3 phones have been failing at waterproofing. Given Sony's dropping sales they should at least help out their customers and stick by their principles and marketing claims.
To top up the experience the rude customer service even charge me £20 to ship phone back! Extortion?
I was a staunch Sony fan who owned the Xperia S, Z, Z2 and Z3 but my Sony story is well and truly over! I will go to a small consumer court as I will not give up because I am right! can anyone in UK advise what are my rights and course of action?
More shocked than disappointed.
is good to konw that sony isn't that good in customer help...too bad sony, too bad.
by the way yestarday a whashed my 4 days z3 in cold water (there where ice cubes in) and today i noticed that the camera and the led are covered by water bubbles.
now i hope that in few days water will evaporate. so sony's phones aren't all waterproof....i think they sell even phones that don't pass all the quality controls. so bad.
Luckily mine got replaced by Carphone Warehouse but this'll be my last Sony phone probably. Problem is I'm running out of manufacturers as they all end up disappointing in one way or another. In fact only Apple have failed to let me down with phones so far.
Good luck with the claim BTW. Small claims court is a good idea; no way will Sony bother to send anyone along to the hearing.
Good luck. So annoying when one of the best devices o the market has so little customer care behind it. I suggest you take it to twitter, seems to be the place where no company wants to tarnish their reputation.
23dno said:
is good to konw that sony isn't that good in customer help...too bad sony, too bad.
by the way yestarday a whashed my 4 days z3 in cold water (there where ice cubes in) and today i noticed that the camera and the led are covered by water bubbles.
now i hope that in few days water will evaporate. so sony's phones aren't all waterproof....i think they sell even phones that don't pass all the quality controls. so bad.
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WtF!?!?!? Where have you read physical caused damage is covered under warranty?!?!? Where?!?!?
I understand OP frustration, but it is obvious that some physical force bent phone and that caused waterproof fail, and that caused phone to die...
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netizensmith said:
Luckily mine got replaced by Carphone Warehouse but this'll be my last Sony phone probably. Problem is I'm running out of manufacturers as they all end up disappointing in one way or another. In fact only Apple have failed to let me down with phones so far.
Good luck with the claim BTW. Small claims court is a good idea; no way will Sony bother to send anyone along to the hearing.
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Try to bend iPhone and claim warranty...
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netizensmith said:
Luckily mine got replaced by Carphone Warehouse but this'll be my last Sony phone probably. Problem is I'm running out of manufacturers as they all end up disappointing in one way or another. In fact only Apple have failed to let me down with phones so far.
Good luck with the claim BTW. Small claims court is a good idea; no way will Sony bother to send anyone along to the hearing.
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cyborg_001 said:
Repair # 1-20162112859
My phone was left on the table while it was raining last week (flaps fully closed of course) and when I picked it up to check something after a while I saw it was turning itself off. After that it never came back alive no matter what I tried. I noticed the camera lenses had fully frosted up so it was apparent that water had seeped in somehow.
I dried the phone for over a day but it simply didn't work! I sent it to Sony for warranty repair as I expected it to be covered since I used it under their advertised conditions and you expect it to take a bit of rain at the minimum.
To my utter horror they have come back as saying that because the phone has some other physical damage on the other side (it has a very slight bend in the left side middle which i don't recall it having) it means that the warranty is automatically void and they don't even need to investigate the water damage or the reason why the waterproofing failed via faulty flaps! But the failed flap is the one on the opposite/right side where the SIM and memory card go! It doesn't even make sense!
I have attached the repair centre (SBE Ltd. UK) sent pictures as evidence.
I assure you that the 2 are completely unrelated and on the opposite sides of the phone. They are simply using cause and effect and not scientific tests to rub their hands off my claim. There are plenty threads online showing that Sony Z3 phones have been failing at waterproofing. Given Sony's dropping sales they should at least help out their customers and stick by their principles and marketing claims.
To top up the experience the rude customer service even charge me £20 to ship phone back! Extortion?
I was a staunch Sony fan who owned the Xperia S, Z, Z2 and Z3 but my Sony story is well and truly over! I will go to a small consumer court as I will not give up because I am right! can anyone in UK advise what are my rights and course of action?
More shocked than disappointed.
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Well the bend could indeed compromise waterproofing.
But what service centre do to you still a **** move.
23dno said:
is good to konw that sony isn't that good in customer help...too bad sony, too bad.
by the way yestarday a whashed my 4 days z3 in cold water (there where ice cubes in) and today i noticed that the camera and the led are covered by water bubbles.
now i hope that in few days water will evaporate. so sony's phones aren't all waterproof....i think they sell even phones that don't pass all the quality controls. so bad.
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If the water was really cold, it will sublimated to the innards of the phone (duh)
Oh Sony quality control ist one of the best but Ive gone trough 3 z3 to find the present one without hardware defects. But all 3 of them survive a pool dive so I trust Sony with waterproofing (ironically)
I've got a Xperia Z3 Compact that has already been for repairs 3 times(1 with initial problem the other two was to fix their repair twice), unfortunately last week decided to clean the phone under water tap, and found that after a while the phone stopped working, water went through, so water proofing had gone after they repaired, right now still waiting for their escalation team to get my phone to go for repair. Not happy at all, I also own 3 other Sony phones Z, Z2,Z3 and my Z2 has gone to repairs last year but now I would not have 100% confidence that the phone is water proof. SBE UK LTD really has bad workmanship.
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I've got a Xperia Z3 Compact that has already been for repairs 3 times(1 with initial problem the other two was to fix their repair twice), unfortunately last week decided to clean the phone under water tap, and found that after a while the phone stopped working, water went through, so water proofing had gone after they repaired, right now still waiting for their escalation team to get my phone to go for repair. Not happy at all, I also own 3 other Sony phones Z, Z2,Z3 and my Z2 has gone to repairs last year but now I would not have 100% confidence that the phone is water proof. SBE UK LTD really has bad workmanship.
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I had them repair a tablet which had bright spots and it came back with a dead pixel...so I was without a tablet for over a month and no compensation. What a bunch of dicks.
parental92 said:
Well the bend could indeed compromise waterproofing.
But what service centre do to you still a **** move.
If the water was really cold, it will sublimated to the innards of the phone (duh)
Oh Sony quality control ist one of the best but Ive gone trough 3 z3 to find the present one without hardware defects. But all 3 of them survive a pool dive so I trust Sony with waterproofing (ironically)
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i think that cold water was the problem :silly: , i've tried in normal water and water doesnt get in.
hardware defects remain front and back glass aren't aligned to the frame as they shoud ( i went to a store and watched another z3 and it hadn't that problem. So quality controll isn't perfect for me...you can't sell a phone for 500+ euros and admit such imperfections.
I have the same problem of being denied, but instead because there are two small cracks on the glass.
See my thread on this; I'm going to try and force them into an arbitration in the hopes they'll service my phone instead of paying their lawyer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/help/small-crack-denied-service-unrelated-t3174528
Sony phones are not water PROOF but are water RESISTANT upto certain limits provided the flaps are tightly secured.
If phone gets damaged due to water then warranty is void. Sony is bluffing the customers with their water proof gimmicks which we should not fall prey. My phone got wet in rain but I was lucky to save it without going to worst service center chain of Sony. It did it myself using DIY videos carefully

Moto Maxx / Turbo XT1225 dead / unresponsive

My Moto Turbo went unresponsive sometime back after getting discharged. It never switched ON after i kept it in charging. After a couple of days of hoping it would come back to life i finally took it to Motorola authorized service center (IRLA, Vila Parle, Mumbai). My phone was well within warranty as it was bought in June 2015 but after making me run around to the service station and wait for one and a half hours i was given the shocking news that the phone cannot be treated under warranty as there are signs of liquid damage!!! Since i was 110% sure my phone wasn't exposed to any water drenching or water spilling leave alone submersion i argued with them that it's not possible. Upon listening to my argument the service center head called me to his office cabin and tried to show and explain me the issue. There were white residual marks near the ear piece and camera area inside the phone on the motherboard which were evidence of liquid damage but the only possibility for same was sweat. Now the company claims that the device is water resistant / splash proof and then when something like this happens they say they can't touch it! This is such bull @#&* on the company's part. A mail with snaps of the affected area to the service center area manager and lenovo manager showed zero support and arrogance. Further a call to Motorola customer care showed same or more negligence. I request the XDA community to help me raise this issue with the company and help me out over here.
The pics aren't super clear but it does look like there has been quite a bit of moisture in the phone, and that is likely what caused the damage. Maybe try disconnecting the battery, cleaning the PCB with alcohol and then reconnecting the battery. I doubt you will win a battle for a warranty claim.
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The pics aren't super clear but it does look like there has been quite a bit of moisture in the phone, and that is likely what caused the damage. Maybe try disconnecting the battery, cleaning the PCB with alcohol and then reconnecting the battery. I doubt you will win a battle for a warranty claim.
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Hi Steve,
Thanks for the suggestion. Will try and do that and see.
That's very unfortunate to hear. Another possibility was if you shower with the phone in the bathroom. The hot moisture/humidity really takes a toll on the phone over a period of time, nearly identical to that of wetting a phone.
Anyhow, the reason why I'm saying this is because some people including myself have experienced that before. I'm sharing this with you just in case you also do that so you do not damage any future product you may have. Best of luck.
Sent from my DROID Turbo using Tapatalk
Placing it in the freezer then out in the hot does this too. However the water should be relatively distilled. The dirt and oils that has already made it's way in there will bring the electrolytes out.
Does anyone have servis manual? Thanks
@emailrex Is your turbo gets back life or not? if not pm me or watsapp me on 8 4 0 8 8 0 5 0 0 2 will see if i can help you.
Hi Shreyas,
Nope it couldn't be made functional. If I may ask how would you attempt to repair it?
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Hi Shreyas,
Nope it couldn't be made functional. If I may ask how would you attempt to repair it?
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First sorry for my late reply. Busy in Exams . Actually i repair mobiles. By seeing the image where the moisture is taken on that part is related to the sensors area so at first investigation i didn't think that there is any issue with that. As u think that it cant be made functional i think i will just get a chance to try if it gets repaires it will be gain for u.

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