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Brazilian version with only 2 gb certainly lacks in this deparment.

Pretty smooth and quick in my 4/32gb variant.

Nothing to complain about, my version is Brazilian with 2GB and Mult-task works fine, it just happens that it closes all open apps if I stop using the device for more than 5 hours, it happens when I'm sleeping.

My BR version 2/32 for now is working fine!! But there are many complaints from other users regarding lockups and crashes programs.

Us 2/32 variant (wished I would have gotten the 4) but so far not too bad. Had to replace a 9 month old lg g5 that bootloops when hot.
Might root it if it gets slow but for now it's ok.
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4/64 version running pure nexus. Almost keeps too many apps hibernating. When I pull recent apps list to go back to something else I was doing I have found apps that were active days ago still hibernating. Memory has been stable across both rooms I have used.

Stock rom no root no bootloader unlocked antutu scores
64081 not bad.

I'm coming from a Zenfone 2 Z00A 4gb/32gb. Do you guys think that I will suffer with a 2gb RAM phone (Brazilian model only has 2gb)?
I never leave more than 5 apps in multitasking, and I always close all apps before locking screen (except when I'm listening music on Spotify or using YouTube with background playback).
Just using apps like Telegram, Facebook, Tapatalk, Chrome, YouTube, Spotify, Instagram, Greenify, Lastfm Scroobler and sometimes Netflix, Discord, Google Photos... And rarely playing games, and nothing like Asphalt 8, just more simple games that don't get all my battery. I just want to see no lag in my device while using those apps continuously. What you guys think?
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By closing apps Android actually uses more memory and battery to reopen them I'm using 2 gig variant everything is smooth so no worries also look for alternatives to heavy apps like facebook metal is great and u can theme it

Graphics and Storage improvements on MIUI 10

So I was pretty unsatisfied about the advertised and actual performance of the device in terms of benchmarks, atleast in the default version of the MIUI installed. Strangely, the graphics and the storage performance was much inferior than all other 845 flagships.
But then I saw few people on youtube posting increased benchmark results after flashing MIUI 10. I was intrigued by this, and to test whether or not this conception is actually correct, I decided to note down the numbers myself.
At the end of the day, the result is still not entirely clear, due to the fact that somehow 3DMark's OpenGL ES 3.0 and 3.1 tests were unable to run on MIUI 10 (8.9.4).
Okay enough talking, let's see the numbers. Also, unless otherwise mentioned, on the top is MIUI 9, on the bottom is MIUI 10. Both debloated.
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As you can see, the score is pretty low on MIUI 9 and faaar below the advertised as well as the average. MIUI 10 however, does justice.
Not only the graphics score is much better, the storage score is also heavily increased. Here are the detailed scores shown below.
Now, on the light of recent events (the OEMs cheating in benchmarks), I was skeptical. To check whether similar trend continues or not, next up, I put GeekBench's CPU test.
Alright, CPU performance seems unchanged, just like Antutu reported. Let's try the GPU (Compute) Test.
Say what? GeekBench is reporting much lower RenderScript scores on MIUI 10 than 9. Is it really some kind of "special modification" by Xiaomi for Antutu? I'm not quite sure. I would have if 3DMark would have run, but now, I'm really that not impressed. Some GFXBench results do show some improvements on FPSs for some tests, but others remained same.
Let's check out the storage performance.
So at least some sigh of relief. As reported by Androbench, the storage performance is indeed increased in all categories.
To double check, I ran PCMark's storage benchmark too.
So, in conclusion, storage performance is indeed increased on MIUI 10.
Overall I'm liking MIUI 10 way too much. It's battery performance is also much much better than MIUI 9. But the whole Antutu thing made the numbers look very fishy.
Now, I don't want to conclude anything. By part, because 3DMark didn't run, and by another part, because MIUI 10 is still in closed beta. All in all, MIUI 10 looks very promising, and no doubt it will get more polish before it officially comes out.
Hopefully 3DMark will run smoothly by then and give us some concrete numbers to reach to the conclusion.
By the way, if anyone's interested, here's the full imgur album :
MIUI 9 : https://imgur.com/a/FsELCJW
MIUI 10 : https://imgur.com/a/iSlDuvY

Thanks for your feedback, very interesting and complete.

Thanks for sharing.

Jeeeesus, i'm getting 10h on screen time on MIUI 9.6.22 .... how can it be even better ??? And the UI is speedy as F already .....
I'm very very curious if I'll even notice the difference when MIUI10 officially arrives.

iamsubhranil said:
So I was pretty unsatisfied about the advertised and actual performance of the device in terms of benchmarks, atleast in the default version of the MIUI installed.
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By the way, if anyone's interested, here's the full imgur album :
MIUI 9 : https://imgur.com/a/FsELCJW
MIUI 10 : https://imgur.com/a/iSlDuvY
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I am on MIUI Global 10.2 Stable (6/64). I ran Androbench and I get quite low Sequential Write Speeds (Screenshot attached). I repeated it a few times and the Sequential Write Speeds still hover around 100 MB/s.
Could this be a hardware issue with my device?

Question xiaomi 13 8/256Gb

First impression.
Very friendly in size, screen, handling.
MIUI 14 Android 13.0.9 update. Interesting in many ways, but more difficult to discover the properties in the setup than MIUI 13.
Apparently the same problems in the older MIUI configuration. (Difficult to change the MIUI system launcher or cancel the apk download from unauthorized sources, for example)
Chinese apks almost all uninstallable.
Google play pre-installed, Chrome installable, Maps, Google One.
Fast wireless charging
A very good phone, a bit expensive, but much better than the xiaomi 12.
Unlock in 7 days.

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First impression.
Very friendly in size, screen, handling.
MIUI 14 Android 13.0.9 update. Interesting in many ways, but more difficult to discover the properties in the setup than MIUI 13.
Apparently the same problems in the older MIUI configuration. (Difficult to change the MIUI system launcher or cancel the apk download from unauthorized sources, for example)
Chinese apks almost all uninstallable.
Google play pre-installed, Chrome installable, Maps, Google One.
Fast wireless charging
A very good phone, a bit expensive, but much better than the xiaomi 12.
Unlock in 7 days.
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An FHD+ screen on a device of this price is a bit of an overkill.
12 pro WQHD+, LTPO (Low Temperature PolySilicon oxide).

Hi, forgot to ask, what is the current version on your Xiaomi 13 now?

kennethyha said:
Hi, forgot to ask, what is the current version on your Xiaomi 13 now?
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if you change your region to china you will get 14.0.13 instant

marcel112 said:
if you change your region to china you will get 14.0.13 instant
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Oh, I see. Thanks.

I had the Xiaomi 12 and found that to be an excellent device with very few flaws in my eyes. The only thing I missed was a flat screen. Purchased my Xiaomi 13 12gb 256gb storage from china. Only issue I have found so far was that it has taken a bit of setting up to get the majority of google services on there and working. So far the only thing that does not work is google assistant via voice recognition.

marcel112 said:
if you change your region to china you will get 14.0.13 instant
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Stable beta, 1 in 2 chance for bugs.
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i am little sad that due to cn software i get a few apps not running, also not from 3rd party links, besides the flaw off not gonna use my smartwatch till xiaomi.eu of aosp will come out, big dissapointment

Question Frustrated with app reload/redraws. RAM performance vs 4a 5G? Anything safe to debloat without losing function?

I've been very frustrated with my current 4a 5G. It seems to have trouble managing with 6GB of RAM and redraws every time I switch between apps.
I am considering upgrading to the 6A but I see thatit also has 6GB. Has anyone gone from 4a 5G to a 6A? Is performance any better?
The other thing I was wondering if it pays to debloat things like Digital Wellbeing etc (I'm rooted) to free up RAM and improve performance.

harryspar said:
I've been very frustrated with my current 4a 5G. It seems to have trouble managing with 6GB of RAM and redraws every time I switch between apps.
I am considering upgrading to the 6A but I see thatit also has 6GB. Has anyone gone from 4a 5G to a 6A? Is performance any better?
The other thing I was wondering if it pays to debloat things like Digital Wellbeing etc (I'm rooted) to free up RAM and improve performance.
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I looked up a quick comparison. You will find it below:
Pixel 6a:
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Pixel 4a 5G:
It seems cpu is almost double the speed of the 4a 5G.
GPU is about 3x.
Memory is about 30% faster.
User experience is 50% better.
Overall, even though it has the same RAM (6GB) you will be dealing with a much faster and smoother phone experience with the 6a.
Also, you're guaranteed a longer shelf life of Android updates, but we all know that, don't we? :3

Thank you for this!

harryspar said:
I've been very frustrated with my current 4a 5G. It seems to have trouble managing with 6GB of RAM and redraws every time I switch between apps.
I am considering upgrading to the 6A but I see thatit also has 6GB. Has anyone gone from 4a 5G to a 6A? Is performance any better?
The other thing I was wondering if it pays to debloat things like Digital Wellbeing etc (I'm rooted) to free up RAM and improve performance.
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Task swapping wise its the same, I am also struggling. Waiting for 7a and 8 to see if 8gb becomes stock, or maybe 8 will get a 12gb variant.

What all are you all doing on these phones?
I consider myself a fairly power user of the phone (not gaming or streaming but actual work, including collecting 3 gmail and about a dozen other imap accounts, maps (waze and G), communications (incl. G voice, What'sapp and a few others).
I use Nova and I have a half dozen widgets.
I don't see my phone struggling with task swapping or anything else very often (occasional glitch here and there but I'm being generous if I say it happens 4 times a month) so I'm not sure why yours would be so disappointing.
I'm Magisk rooted and running the recent quarterly Beta but my exp. so far has been pretty consistent starting with Android 12 and through to now.
There might be some resource hogs you need to hunt down or otherwise try to figure out your bottleneck. I don't think your experience, or OP's, is very typical.
Good luck.

Samsung 10e (SM-G970U1)

Hi there,
recently I purchased the obove mentioned Smartphone.
Its my first Samsung and I was quite scared by the encroaching behavior of OneUI, paired with Google this a no Go.
I heard, that Samsung has locked my Phone very well, so please kann you give a Guide how to get LineageOS on this Phone.
Btw. i live in Germany and i wonder how I came to an US Version of the S10e .....
Thx a lot in advance

If it's the Snapdragon SOC the bootloader is likely locked.
The Samsung UI is extremely customizable. Galaxy store, choose a theme (the native high contrast one works well), then free icon pack, then choose whatever wallpaper you want.
Turn on dark mode.
Get the Good Lock family of apps especially One Handed Operation Plus and these:
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All Samsung's should be optimized. I use most of the Samsung apps instead of Google except for gmail and gmaps. Google play Services is normally temporarily disabled unless I need it as is Playstore. It increases speed and reduces battery usage.
Disable global power management and deal with power hogs on a case by case basis. Use app settings first and either Package Disabler or adb edits to take out the trash. Don't go too nuts, dependencies! Most of the small Samsung system apps should be left alone as many provide functionality and appearance enhancements for the UI, they use very little resources.
Disable Bixby and disable the cloud crap if you don't use it. Battery hogs. Get a V30 rated SD card like a Sandisk Extreme and use it as the data drive, all critical data goes here, then back that up.
A stock N10+ (Pie) tricked out as described.

Thank you for the Answer.
But thats not what I had in Mind. I want to get rid of all the Samsungness' Samsung is calling more home than Google. For privacy reasons, I wont use Phone that way.
Btw.
Its a Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 with 8 Cores

innercity said:
Thank you for the Answer.
But thats not what I had in Mind. I want to get rid of all the Samsungness' Samsung is calling more home than Google. For privacy reasons, I wont use Phone that way.
Btw.
Its a Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 with 8 Cores
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Use a firewall to lock it down. Bixby is the worst in that respect, read its EULA for fun, it's nasty.
If it's using the Snapdragon chipset loading a custom rom probably isn't doable. If it's the Exynos chipset you can.

I used Android Debloater and AdAway. Now i'm feeling much better with the phone
Thx