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Did anyone check out the unboxing video for the new sprint touch pro2. It looks great and has gsm support. Even Noah says if your tmobile user, maybe you should just buy the sprint touch pro 2 version and unlock it. what do you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwvuwz7cuLg&eurl=http://wmpoweruser.com/&feature=player_embedded
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Already a poll with the same topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431
it doesnt say sprint on the poll tho XD
No, but says any other version
And there are pics of all versions
Well from what I've read & seen on xda, I like the Tmobile version
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You'd think CDMA ver, hands-down. However, the CDMA vers, although CDMA/GSM, they don't support US 3G, or do they? H3LL!, I don't see why GSM radios can't support the full HSDPA spectrum, U & overseas included.
orb3000 said:
Already a poll with the same topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431
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magicalan said:
it doesnt say sprint on the poll tho XD
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No, but says any other version
And there are pics of all versions
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FYI there is almost certainly going to be at least one big difference between the CDMA Sprint and CDMA Verizon for people who travel and are interested int the GSM capabilities overseas: Verizon's practice has been to lock the GSM sim card to Verizon only sims and Sprint has followed in the TP2 its practice of unlocked SIM for its CDMA/GSM.
So on the Sprint version, if you travel to France you can stick a local and considerably cheaper per minute SIM in your TP2, and the jury is out on Verizons and if Verizon goes by past history they will lock that out, forcing you to use their VERY expensive (10 times or so) per minute sim on international roaming and with no free incoming.
Secondarily, although not quad frequency GSM, also if you needed the cash, you could sell you Sprint TP2 for something in Europe and it certainly would work there fine for the buyer.
kain144000 said:
You'd think CDMA ver, hands-down. However, the CDMA vers, although CDMA/GSM, they don't support US 3G, or do they? H3LL!, I don't see why GSM radios can't support the full HSDPA spectrum, U & overseas included.
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Because this would create a gray market/arbitrage opportunity making the phones subsidized phones totally unlocked and meaning the subsided price would have to be list price minus ETF penalty ($500 cheapest subsidized price), and the discount is currently more than that.
IE it would make the phones
a) have to be more expensive for those of us buying subsidized (new line or renewal); or
b) have carrier locked SIM slot which makes use as primary CDMA with gSM capacity world phone considerably more expensive to use.
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Because this would
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b) have carrier locked SIM slot which makes...[worldphones] considerably more expensive to use.
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[email protected]$74RD$! So hard to save a buck these days on Turtle Island.
Not only in Turtle Isaland mate
Something is breaking the GSM Radio in US CDMA TP2's from being used with US GSM operators. Trying both a ATT and TMo SIM in a Sprint TP2 fails - network search shows no networks available.
Closer inspection shows that while the devices are SIM unlocked, they Ignore/Reject any networks with US MCC's.
Attempting to show networks with MCC 310 and 311 failed, while 334 and 666 showed up just fine.
Running the fieldTest utility (not to be confused with fieldTrial) shows the GSM radio a-flutter with activity, finding and listing UMTS and GSM networks stateside.
I've poured over the registry and nothing sticks out as the culprit for this behavior; I fear that certain MCC's are locked out of the baseband - but I'm not sure how one would go about examining such configurations and removing such limitations.
Thoughts?
Forgive my naivety, but will this benefit people like me who are VZW subscribers? Is there GSM speeds that CDMA can't reach in certain areas, which unlocking the other radios would allow us to automatically latch onto?
I'm just wondering if this discussion is geared more towards those trying to unlock to move to ATT, or if it can benefit us all equally.
fronc said:
Forgive my naivety, but will this benefit people like me who are VZW subscribers? Is there GSM speeds that CDMA can't reach in certain areas, which unlocking the other radios would allow us to automatically latch onto?
I'm just wondering if this discussion is geared more towards those trying to unlock to move to ATT, or if it can benefit us all equally.
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I have accounts with Sprint, Verizon, and ATT. If I can pop in my ATT SIM in my Sprint TP2, and switch service at will (depending on coverage or preference), it would be most excellent.
Maybe I don't get it, but isn't this known? I thought the GSM radios were locked out in the U.S.? It has something to do with FCC compliance?
I believe US GSM frequencies are locked out via software and hardware, either by request of the CDMA carriers and/or the FCC's requirements.
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I believe US GSM frequencies are locked out via software and hardware, either by request of the CDMA carriers and/or the FCC's requirements.
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It's an FCC thing, they have not authorized the GSM radio in it for use in the United States, even though it can do 850/1900 GSM. I'm afraid the GSM in these things is strictly for traveling outside the USA. It will show the GSM networks here, as you have found out, but the networks here will not allow it to use them, so no amount of hacks will make it work.
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It's an FCC thing, they have not authorized the GSM radio in it for use in the United States, even though it can do 850/1900 GSM. I'm afraid the GSM in these things is strictly for traveling outside the USA. It will show the GSM networks here, as you have found out, but the networks here will not allow it to use them, so no amount of hacks will make it work.
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Are you sure about it being an "FCC thing"?
There have been a few reports of people getting an unlock code, and getting their hybrid TP2 to work domestically...sans 3G connectivity, apparently.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555067
The cheapest I've found for an unlock code for the TP2 is $20 from here:
http://www.uniquephones.com/
but I don't know what their success rate is like; some companies charge as much as $35 for one.
That's a Canadian version though, I'm sure the models sold there are not subject to US FCC Laws.
Edit-I found this- http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/05/20/htc-passes-cdma-gsm-hybrid-touch-pro2-through-the-fcc/
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That's a Canadian version though, I'm sure the models sold there are not subject to US FCC Laws.
Edit-I found this- http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/05/20/htc-passes-cdma-gsm-hybrid-touch-pro2-through-the-fcc/
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Hmm... SIM lock and firmware lock--both "modifiable". I have hope.
I give it a month max till there is a workaround.
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That's a Canadian version though, I'm sure the models sold there are not subject to US FCC Laws.
Edit-I found this- http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/05/20/htc-passes-cdma-gsm-hybrid-touch-pro2-through-the-fcc/
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The Verizon version if you get the unlock code, it will work in the US GSM.
Gsm not enabled
Hi does anyone know if there is a work around for this it sounds like a firmware thing and not a hardware limitation also I have installed 6.5 on my GSM TP2 is there an SPL for the cdma version yet sorry to post here on this however im trying to get to the bottom of this
Thanks in advance for any help
I got my Verizon TP2 unlocked (just emailed support and they mailed back the unlock code). Popped in my Orange (UK) SIM, told the phone to use GSM only and was able to TXT/call from it and receive calls/TXT just fine via my UK number. (I'm physically in the US).
So it's not a lock so much on registering with US networks... but it may be a lock on US GSM SIM cards so you can't go toss in your TMobile (US) SIM and dump VZ service.
--Chris
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I got my Verizon TP2 unlocked (just emailed support and they mailed back the unlock code). Popped in my Orange (UK) SIM, told the phone to use GSM only and was able to TXT/call from it and receive calls/TXT just fine via my UK number. (I'm physically in the US).
So it's not a lock so much on registering with US networks... but it may be a lock on US GSM SIM cards so you can't go toss in your TMobile (US) SIM and dump VZ service.
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This is great news! I like to unlock any GSM enabled phone I get for Verizon, just in case I ever decide to leave - so I can take my phone with me
I'll be unlocking mine tomorrow when I get it, if they'll allow it. I've been a customer for over a year, and they allowed it on the Storm and Tour, so this shouldn't be a problem.
I've been with them for several years and as far as I know as long as you're current on your bill they'll give you the unlock code. I had mine for 2 whole days and they gave it to me.
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This is great news! I like to unlock any GSM enabled phone I get for Verizon, just in case I ever decide to leave - so I can take my phone with me
I'll be unlocking mine tomorrow when I get it, if they'll allow it. I've been a customer for over a year, and they allowed it on the Storm and Tour, so this shouldn't be a problem.
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Well thats good news I will see if Sprint allows me to do the same as I have accounts with AT&T and TMO also I would really like to use this on my ATT plan but it appears from reading the previous posts that perhaps US based sims are locked out I will attempt to unlock it tommorow nonetheless and see what happens on the other hand my VZW Storm worked like a charm after getting it unlocked ........... for some reason this seems different though if the FCC notice is read at face value Anyone having any experience with this giving feedback would be much appreciated
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I've been with them for several years and as far as I know as long as you're current on your bill they'll give you the unlock code. I had mine for 2 whole days and they gave it to me.
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Are you with VZW OR Sprint
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Are you with VZW OR Sprint
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Yes are we talking VZW or Sprint?
I have had my phone two days on VZW. The CSR first said I have to wait 60 days, then checked with T2 and came back and said it is not available. I am sure he doesn't know what I was talking about. I will call again and then a third and if that doesn't work I will just email support as mentioned above. I need an unlock code before November as I will be on the road again overseas and I don't want to pay crazy International VZW rates!
californiarailroader said:
It's an FCC thing, they have not authorized the GSM radio in it for use in the United States, even though it can do 850/1900 GSM. I'm afraid the GSM in these things is strictly for traveling outside the USA. It will show the GSM networks here, as you have found out, but the networks here will not allow it to use them, so no amount of hacks will make it work.
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mmmmmmmm. do i have a fellow railroader on this site besides me??????
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Yes are we talking VZW or Sprint?
I have had my phone two days on VZW. The CSR first said I have to wait 60 days, then checked with T2 and came back and said it is not available. I am sure he doesn't know what I was talking about. I will call again and then a third and if that doesn't work I will just email support as mentioned above. I need an unlock code before November as I will be on the road again overseas and I don't want to pay crazy International VZW rates!
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Hmmm VZW Global support was not given the instructions to SIM unlock this TP2 from HTC. Sounds strange to me, has anyone had any luck getting it unlocked in order to use and overseas SIM while overseas instead of the VZW SIM with access to high rates?
I will contact HTC.
I am picking up the S8+ but I want the unlocked version. It's probably to early to talk about root right now but if I buy the unlocked version will I be able to root the phone before I connect it to Verizon? I'm sick of the bloatware and miss having root access. Once I connect a rooted phone to Verizon will I lose root?
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I am picking up the S8+ but I want the unlocked version. It's probably to early to talk about root right now but if I buy the unlocked version will I be able to root the phone before I connect it to Verizon? I'm sick of the bloatware and miss having root access. Once I connect a rooted phone to Verizon will I lose root?
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Lol...unlocked in this sense is sim unlocked and has nothing to do with root.
If things are the same as the s7 and note 7 for the US then the snapdragon S8swill have locked bootloaders which means no traditional root (not counting on leaked engineering firmware again) and def no custom recovery.
You need to buy a exynos model which hopefully are still unlocked.
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Thanks for the reply and great info.
I understand the unlocked part but I thought it was the carrier locking down the bootloader. My s6 with Verizon you could downgrade and then root as long as you didn't have their newest firmware which locked it down. I was hoping that if I picked up an unlocked version I could root it before the carrier gets their service on it.
I am looking at international version but didn't know it was the chip that handled the lock down. That's great info and thanks for that.
My end game is to get rid of the bloatware. One I put the phone on Verizon service won't it upload all the crap in an update?
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Thanks for the reply and great info.
I understand the unlocked part but I thought it was the carrier locking down the bootloader. My s6 with Verizon you could downgrade and then root as long as you didn't have their newest firmware which locked it down. I was hoping that if I picked up an unlocked version I could root it before the carrier gets their service on it.
I am looking at international version but didn't know it was the chip that handled the lock down. That's great info and thanks for that.
My end game is to get rid of the bloatware. One I put the phone on Verizon service won't it upload all the crap in an update?
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In the past carriers have had a say or decision when it comes to unlocked boot loaders. It depends on what type of deal is made with Samsung and that particular carrier.
Gotcha. I didn't know that was an issue with the s7. I have the s6 and before Verizon locked the bootloader you could downgrade Android which would then allow you to root it. I was completely unaware it was on the cpu side of things.
So I need to wait a bit after release so the community can get their hands on one and see what's possible.
Thanks for the education guys. Very helpful indeed.
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Lol...unlocked in this sense is sim unlocked and has nothing to do with root.
If things are the same as the s7 and note 7 for the US then the snapdragon S8swill have locked bootloaders which means no traditional root (not counting on leaked engineering firmware again) and def no custom recovery.
You need to buy a exynos model which hopefully are still unlocked.
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Nevermind, thought there was only an exynos version this time around but not true.. sorry.
force70 said:
You need to buy a exynos model which hopefully are still unlocked.
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But no CDMA radios/modems, correct?
LoliSmith said:
But no CDMA radios/modems, correct?
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I believe you are correct...all GSM.
But having cdma means your on verizon more or less and why anyone bothers with them i dont get.
Cdma is outdated tech for one thing and limits what device you can use...such as in this case.
They also lock the Bootloaders which makes having a Verizon device pointless if your here on xda. And again you cant just nab another device with an unlocked BL since your stuck on cdma lol.
I would ditch that carrier in a heartbeat if it were me.
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But having cdma means your on verizon more or less and why anyone bothers with them i dont get.
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There are lots of reasons. I have grandfathered UDP, which is unthrottled and not deprioritized, and Verizon's network is the best in the US.
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Cdma is outdated tech for one thing
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I am rarely on the CDMA network, all my calls are VoLTE. But without CDMA radios/modems, the firmware of a phone won't support VoLTE because the manufacturer doesn't intend for the device to be used on Verizon.
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Yes, it does, that is why I asked.
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They also lock the Bootloaders
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When it comes to Samsung, all of the US models have locked bootloaders.
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which makes having a Verizon device pointless if your here on xda.
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Well you are wrong. My Verizon Pixel was unlocked with depixel8.
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And again you cant just nab another device with an unlocked BL since your stuck on cdma
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But no Samsung US devices have unlocked bootloaders. And the international model doesn't have HD/WiFi calling on the US GSM carriers and you can't use Samsung Pay.
force70 said:
I would ditch that carrier in a heartbeat if it were me.
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You don't have grandfathered UDP on Verizon, I do.
LoliSmith said:
There are lots of reasons. I have grandfathered UDP, which is unthrottled and not deprioritized, and Verizon's network is the best in the US.
I am rarely on the CDMA network, all my calls are VoLTE. But without CDMA radios/modems, the firmware of a phone won't support VoLTE because the manufacturer doesn't intend for the device to be used on Verizon.
and limits what device you can useYes, it does, that is why I asked.
Yes, it does, that is why I asked.
They also lock the BootloadersWhen it comes to Samsung, all of the US models have locked bootloaders.
which makes having a Verizon device pointless if your here on xda. Well you are wrong. My Verizon Pixel was unlocked with depixel8.
Well you are wrong. My Verizon Pixel was unlocked with depixel8.
And again you cant just nab another device with an unlocked BL since your stuck on cdmaBut no Samsung US devices have unlocked bootloaders. And the international model doesn't have HD/WiFi calling on the US GSM carriers and you can't use Samsung Pay.
You don't have grandfathered UDP on Verizon, I do.
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True but for me it still wouldn't be worth it.
Id rather pay for data then be stuck having one device which is unlocked (pixel) and also have a choice to use almost any gsm device out there.
And yes the US Samsung devices are locked and also now here in canada which is why i buy the international exynos version as thet are unlocked....which of course you cannot do because your on cdma.
Its a personal choice of course and I prefer to be able to do what i want with my devices so a locked bootloader is unacceptable for me and I also refuse to be stuck tunning whatever device my carrier offers because nothing else works on their network.
You choose other wise and thats okay too...
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You don't have grandfathered UDP on Verizon, I do.
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I had the grandfathered unlimited plan. I just let Verizon take it away when I upgraded, though. It seemed like too much hassle to try and keep it, when I really only used 2-3 GB max per month.
I've been loyal to Verizon for all my life, although I'm not really sure why. I may jump ship for Google Project Fi sometime in the near future. I love Project Fi's freedom with all its devices. Plus, it operates 100% through internet, which is all you need nowadays. Project Fi is definitely a step towards the future. I feel like I'm paying Verizon so much for service that I don't use. I'm on wifi 90% of the time.
sonicthrust said:
I am picking up the S8+ but I want the unlocked version. It's probably to early to talk about root right now but if I buy the unlocked version will I be able to root the phone before I connect it to Verizon? I'm sick of the bloatware and miss having root access. Once I connect a rooted phone to Verizon will I lose root?
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Carrier unlocked is what unlocked version is and has absolutely nothing to do with root.
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sonicthrust said:
Thanks for the reply and great info.
I understand the unlocked part but I thought it was the carrier locking down the bootloader. My s6 with Verizon you could downgrade and then root as long as you didn't have their newest firmware which locked it down. I was hoping that if I picked up an unlocked version I could root it before the carrier gets their service on it.
I am looking at international version but didn't know it was the chip that handled the lock down. That's great info and thanks for that.
My end game is to get rid of the bloatware. One I put the phone on Verizon service won't it upload all the crap in an update?
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Package disabler pro on play store freezes bloat and without root.
Let me clarify why I am asking this question. I have an S6 and before version 5.xxx you could downgrade the firmware to 4.xx and then do a root workaround. Verizon released a new firmware and once you had that you couldn't downgrade any more because they locked the bootloader with their firmware. That is why I was thinking I could get an unlocked phone, meaning no carrier firmware, root it, then turn off auto updates and then add my ein to the Verizon network. I would then get my updates from XDA for the raw update files and not Verizons cooked version.
I don't know anything about the s7 as I have not owned one so I didn't know that the US version from the s7 on had the bootloader locked. And when I say bootloader locked I mean no way of a work around to root the phone.
I also did not know that international version I'd be losing some features.
I'll just wait a bit after release and see what the community comes up with. Maybe there is an exploit for 7.0 that will be found for the S8.
Also, I have been on all of the carriers except for t-mobile and I have to say that Verizon is the best so far. With sprint you couldn't even talk and surf lol. I know service has a lot to do with your area so it is different for everyone. Sprint was the most godawful I have ever been on!
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Carrier unlocked is what unlocked version is and has absolutely nothing to do with root.
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Package disabler pro on play store freezes bloat and without root.
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That's great. I didn't know about that one. With all the crap out there it's so difficult to find a safe program these days. I'll check it out.
force70 said:
Lol...unlocked in this sense is sim unlocked and has nothing to do with root.
If things are the same as the s7 and note 7 for the US then the snapdragon S8swill have locked bootloaders which means no traditional root (not counting on leaked engineering firmware again) and def no custom recovery.
You need to buy a exynos model which hopefully are still unlocked.
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And that's why I'm not moving from this Note 4 until one of us is dead!
Spike96 said:
I had the grandfathered unlimited plan. I just let Verizon take it away when I upgraded, though. It seemed like too much hassle to try and keep it, when I really only used 2-3 GB max per month.
I've been loyal to Verizon for all my life, although I'm not really sure why. I may jump ship for Google Project Fi sometime in the near future. I love Project Fi's freedom with all its devices. Plus, it operates 100% through internet, which is all you need nowadays. Project Fi is definitely a step towards the future. I feel like I'm paying Verizon so much for service that I don't use. I'm on wifi 90% of the time.
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All you had to do was pay full price for the phone to upgrade.
Verizon has the best coverage, but the most expensive plans, AT&T and Sprint and Tmobile all seem to have better plans and devices because they're not CDMA. I think it's a trade-off.
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All you had to do was pay full price for the phone to upgrade.
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I was a kid back then lol... My Dad had me convinced that by using an upgrade you only pay like $200. Whereas it was really a $200 upfront cost, then monthly payments after. I didn't know.
But, I saved a few bucks per month anyway. My monthly plan was cheaper than the unlimited $30 plan, and I rarely use over 2-3 GBs per month.
The only real upside to the unlimited plan, for me, was peace of mind knowing it was impossible to go over the limit.
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Verizon has the best coverage, but the most expensive plans, AT&T and Sprint and Tmobile all seem to have better plans and devices because they're not CDMA. I think it's a trade-off.
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Is there any consensus how Verizon coverage compares to Project Fi coverage?
I know Project Fi is a combo of T-Mobile & Sprint. Does that make it closer to the reliability of Verizon?
Spike96 said:
I was a kid back then lol... My Dad had me convinced that by using an upgrade you only pay like $200. Whereas it was really a $200 upfront cost, then monthly payments after. I didn't know.
But, I saved a few bucks per month anyway. My monthly plan was cheaper than the unlimited $30 plan, and I rarely use over 2-3 GBs per month.
The only real upside to the unlimited plan, for me, was peace of mind knowing it was impossible to go over the limit.
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Is there any consensus how Verizon coverage compares to Project Fi coverage?
I know Project Fi is a combo of T-Mobile & Sprint. Does that make it closer to the reliability of Verizon?
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I don't really think so, since TMobile and Sprint mostly cover the same areas, and us cellular only covers 20 something states.
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Spike96 said:
I was a kid back then lol... My Dad had me convinced that by using an upgrade you only pay like $200. Whereas it was really a $200 upfront cost, then monthly payments after. I didn't know.
But, I saved a few bucks per month anyway. My monthly plan was cheaper than the unlimited $30 plan, and I rarely use over 2-3 GBs per month.
The only real upside to the unlimited plan, for me, was peace of mind knowing it was impossible to go over the limit.
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If you as
K T-Mobile customer support, you'll find that they downgrade your service if you use too much data evening the "unlimited" plan.
I just don't understand to this day how they get away with calling ANY plan unlimited when there's obviously limitations.
On most carriers my phone is not compatiable what do I need to do to get this phone onto any network? I had it unlocked by a very well respected website plz help o and the model isSM-G 955U I JUST bought the straight talk BYOB can anybody help greatly appreciated
Go back to that respectable company that gave you the unlock code and asked them why.You paid for a service and you didn't get what you expected.That should have been your first step. They will check with you 1st if the phone is really unlocked or not.Good luck.
Your device might be a CDMA one. Thus, you will not be able to use it on all networks.
What is the network of the SIM card you are trying to use?
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Your device might be a CDMA one. Thus, you will not be able to use it on all networks.
What is the network of the SIM card you are trying to use?
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All of the North America (Snapdragon) S8 (and plus) have all NA bands, including CDMA. It's the Exynos (European and Asian) variants that do not support CDMA.
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Your device might be a CDMA one. Thus, you will not be able to use it on all networks.
What is the network of the SIM card you are trying to use?
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I have ATnT t mobile sprint and Verizon from straight talk came in a their byob but I thought the s8 is cdma gan and lte
Pr3vo5t said:
I have ATnT t mobile sprint and Verizon from straight talk came in a their byob but I thought the s8 is cdma gan and lte
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You are correct. The S8 is CDMA capable.
USCC S8 is unlocked out the box, I had s6 that work on ATT and Tmobile by go into setting -> connect -> force it switch to Global/GSM. The problem I have with all these CDMA phone unlock for GSM is can't get MMS and the most annoying thing is someone in the state call it kept thinking as internaltional call. Example like 201xxxxxxxxx, the phone think 20 is from Egypt.
Hopefully, S8 is will do what iPhone can..... fix the area code issue.
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All of the North America (Snapdragon) S8 (and plus) have all NA bands, including CDMA. It's the Exynos (European and Asian) variants that do not support CDMA.
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So basically the new S8 should support both CDMA and GSM right?
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Pr3vo5t said:
I have ATnT t mobile sprint and Verizon from straight talk came in a their byob but I thought the s8 is cdma gan and lte
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What is the exact message your device displays when inserting an att card?
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So basically the new S8 should support both CDMA and GSM right?
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Correct for the US (snapdragon) version. The Exynos version does not support CDMA.
Edit: See posts #10 and #12 below for clarification from @zelendel.
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Correct for the US (snapdragon) version. The Exynos version does not support CDMA.
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That depends on where in the US you are. All devices in my state are Euro devices and none are the US model. Even the Straight talk devices are Euro models.
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That depends on where in the US you are. All devices in my state are Euro devices and none are the US model. Even the Straight talk devices are Euro models.
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Really? I didn't know that. My understanding was that all major US carriers were only selling snapdragon variants. And the big box stores, as well.
Would you mind sharing what state you are in, and who sells the Exynos version in the US?
Thanks....
cam30era said:
Really? I didn't know that. My understanding was that all major US carriers were only selling snapdragon variants. And the big box stores, as well.
Would you mind sharing what state you are in, and who sells the Exynos version in the US?
Thanks....
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I live in Alaska. As for the major US carriers. Yeah well we have ATT and verizon just got here but they are both thinking about leaving (not the first time) People in this state prefer Companies founded in the state so our biggest carrier is GCI. I am used by alot of devs to get the "good" devices without them having to pay stupid shipping. But you can walk into any store here and buy the euro device. Even walmart.
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I live in Alaska. As for the major US carriers. Yeah well we have ATT and verizon just got here but they are both thinking about leaving (not the first time) People in this state prefer Companies founded in the state so our biggest carrier is GCI. I am used by alot of devs to get the "good" devices without them having to pay stupid shipping. But you can walk into any store here and buy the euro device. Even walmart.
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Amazing (as in good). Thanks for setting the record straight.
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Amazing (as in good). Thanks for setting the record straight.
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Glad I could help. It freaked me out as well the first time I found this out. Being here gave me the ability to get a Samsung devicewith a snapdragon chip and an unlockable bootloader. Mid you that was a few generations ago but I keep tabs on what they are offering in case someone hits me up to get them one.
Also helps that there is no sales tax here.
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So basically the new S8 should support both CDMA and GSM right?
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What is the exact message your device displays when inserting an att card?
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It just says mobile network not available and the network is a circle with a / through it. It reads the sim cards just for some odd reason its not doing what it should do
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It just says mobile network not available and the network is a circle with a / through it. It reads the sim cards just for some odd reason its not doing what it should do
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Try to use another SIM card from a GSM provider (att or tmob) and at the same time, insert your present SIM card in another device to see if it works.
or if you fix the issue already, let me know
Pr3vo5t said:
It just says mobile network not available and the network is a circle with a / through it. It reads the sim cards just for some odd reason its not doing what it should do
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Check your imei. If it is wiped you won't be able to connect
Uhuuu. That would be bad. IMEI can be wiped only by a custom rom correct? Bad or wrong recovery etc.
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Check your imei. If it is wiped you won't be able to connect
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Uhuuu. That would be bad. IMEI can be wiped only by a custom rom correct? Bad or wrong recovery etc.
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Depending on the device. Samsung devices are known for self corruption. That has been their MO since windows mobile.
It shows what my imei is and it says my phone number and everything just not be no service circle
Anyone think the OnePlus 6 will add support for Verizon or Sprint? Would be very wise to do so as Verizon is the largest US carrier.
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Anyone think the OnePlus 6 will add support for Verizon or Sprint? Would be very wise to do so as Verizon is the largest US carrier.
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Verizon is not very friendly towards unlockable bootloaders, so most likely no. The bands might be there, but Verizon wont accept it on their network. Might work on CDMA carriers abroad though. Sprint might accept it on their BYOD plans. Trying not to get too hyped about this device. If I like what I see and hear, I'll be getting the OP6 and handing down my S9+.
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Verizon is not very friendly towards unlockable bootloaders, so most likely no. The bands might be there, but Verizon wont accept it on their network. Might work on CDMA carriers abroad though. Sprint might accept it on their BYOD plans. Trying not to get too hyped about this device. If I like what I see and hear, I'll be getting the OP6 and handing down my S9+.
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I have sprint so I hope CDMA is there for BYOD
According to OnePlus.net ut only supports T-Mobile AT&T and U.S Cellular. Such a shame that they make such a good device at an awesome price and its only compatible with half the major us carriers
The US carriers are to blame here, not oneplus! There is absolutely no reason for them not to make it compatible.
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The US carriers are to blame here, not oneplus! There is absolutely no reason for them not to make it compatible.
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No it's one pluses fault. They don't want to pay the licensing needed (it's not cheap) for CDMA networks. It's that simple. So it's no one's fault really. It's just business.
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No it's one pluses fault. They don't want to pay the licensing needed (it's not cheap) for CDMA networks. It's that simple. So it's no one's fault really. It's just business.
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You don't need certification to use a phone on Verizon's network. You just need the bands. You just pop a sim in and it works.
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You don't need certification to use a phone on Verizon's network. You just need the bands. You just pop a sim in and it works.
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You clearly have no idea how these things work. There are tons of things that go into "just popping in a sim card and it works" There are things from the CDMA network that are vastly different. Like the all of the telephone software. Which you have to pay a license to use. Not to mention using the modems on CDMA devices which also costs money.
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You clearly have no idea how these things work. There are tons of things that go into "just popping in a sim card and it works" There are things from the CDMA network that are vastly different. Like the all of the telephone software. Which you have to pay a license to use. Not to mention using the modems on CDMA devices which also costs money.
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You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. I am talking about using a non-verizon phone on Verizon's network. I have used non-verizon phones on Verizon's network with no problem at all! You just need the bands you don't need Verizon's certification.
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You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. I am talking about using a non-verizon phone on Verizon's network. I have used non-verizon phones on Verizon's network with no problem at all! You just need the bands you don't need Verizon's certification.
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That is a device that is already paying for the licenses. You have to be from the states and still very young. This is why you have no idea about what you are talking about. To sell a device in the states you have to state if the device is a GSM or CDMA device or both. Then you pay the licensing for that. Many smaller companies refuse to pay the fees for CDMA as it is out dated tech. (heck even China stopped using it for the most part. Verizon will soon be completely our of the CDMA network)
Trust me it takes more then just the bands. Even the dialer software is different on a CDMA based device and that software is closed sourced.
This is the main reason smaller OEM dont support CDMA networks. They just dont want to pay for the extra licenses they need (that and they suck lol)
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That is a device that is already paying for the licenses. You have to be from the states and still very young. This is why you have no idea about what you are talking about. To sell a device in the states you have to state if the device is a GSM or CDMA device or both. Then you pay the licensing for that. Many smaller companies refuse to pay the fees for CDMA as it is out dated tech. (heck even China stopped using it for the most part. Verizon will soon be completely our of the CDMA network)
Trust me it takes more then just the bands. Even the dialer software is different on a CDMA based device and that software is closed sourced.
This is the main reason smaller OEM dont support CDMA networks. They just dont want to pay for the extra licenses they need (that and they suck lol)
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I don't think you are understanding what I am saying. I am from the states and very young. I am 5 years old.
Anyways, I totally agree with what you are saying. My point is you can run non-verizon phones on Verizon network. They don't need any amount of certification from Verizon at all to do that!
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I don't think you are understanding what I am saying. I am from the states and very young. I am 5 years old.
Anyways, I totally agree with what you are saying. My point is you can run non-verizon phones on Verizon network. They don't need any amount of certification from Verizon at all to do that!
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What you are getting is that is not always the case. Go ahead and take any device that doesnt support CDMA like many devices from China based OEM and you will find that even with the bands that you can pop a sim card in and nothing will work. ITs not from Verizon that they need the certification. Its from the FCC and the CDMA commission. This happens long before you even know the device is even made.
You can not use your experience as a be all end all here. Users in the states make up about 10% of XDA users and the rules for cell phones are very different in the states then they are in the rest of the world.
Either way it doesnt matter.
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What you are getting is that is not always the case. Go ahead and take any device that doesnt support CDMA like many devices from China based OEM and you will find that even with the bands that you can pop a sim card in and nothing will work. ITs not from Verizon that they need the certification. Its from the FCC and the CDMA commission. This happens long before you even know the device is even made.
You can not use your experience as a be all end all here. Users in the states make up about 10% of XDA users and the rules for cell phones are very different in the states then they are in the rest of the world.
Either way it doesnt matter.
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Obviously you can't read or like to argue with someone.
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You clearly have no idea how these things work. There are tons of things that go into "just popping in a sim card and it works" There are things from the CDMA network that are vastly different. Like the all of the telephone software. Which you have to pay a license to use. Not to mention using the modems on CDMA devices which also costs money.
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It has a CDMA modem it has enough bands for Verizon I used the OnePlus 5 on version you only get 3G if you enable LTE you wont get calls or text. It's a Verizon support issue the hardware is there
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It has a CDMA modem it has enough bands for Verizon I used the OnePlus 5 on version you only get 3G if you enable LTE you wont get calls or text. It's a Verizon support issue the hardware is there
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Not Verizon support. It is missing band 13 which Verizon uses for LTE.
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Not Verizon support. It is missing band 13 which Verizon uses for LTE.
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Still works though not all bands are required. It may affect signal in some areas but not all
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Not Verizon support. It is missing band 13 which Verizon uses for LTE.
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Nevermind, thinking about Tmobile
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Also it does take more then just popping in a Sim for Verizon especially. There is a certification that needs to be done unless that has changed in the last couple years.
But the OnePlus does include a CDMA radio with all the supported band for Verizon. You can try calling Verizon and see if they will add you IMEI number to their system. But that is a gamble to take. Other then that Verizon would have to accept the OnePlus as a whole to run 4glte on the phones.
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Nevermind, thinking about Tmobile
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Also it does take more then just popping in a Sim for Verizon especially. There is a certification that needs to be done unless that has changed in the last couple years.
But the OnePlus does include a CDMA radio with all the supported band for Verizon. You can try calling Verizon and see if they will add you IMEI number to their system. But that is a gamble to take. Other then that Verizon would have to accept the OnePlus as a whole to run 4glte on the phones.
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Verizon doesn't whitelist IMEIs you can put a sim in and use it on 3G just fine. Verizon does use band 13 but you dont need all bands for it to work. Sprint does whitelist IMEIs so it will not work on sprint period
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What you are getting is that is not always the case. Go ahead and take any device that doesnt support CDMA like many devices from China based OEM and you will find that even with the bands that you can pop a sim card in and nothing will work. ITs not from Verizon that they need the certification. Its from the FCC and the CDMA commission. This happens long before you even know the device is even made.
You can not use your experience as a be all end all here. Users in the states make up about 10% of XDA users and the rules for cell phones are very different in the states then they are in the rest of the world.
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I can't tell if your trolling or if you're genuinely a nasty person....
1. " take any device that DOESN'T support CDMA like many devices from China based OEM" I assume you meant that many Chinese devices DO use CDMA. Because what you said is incorrect. On top of that, not all CDMA bands are the same, so of course Chinese CDMA phones won't register on Verizon's network.
2. You can't dismiss his experiences either, or mine. I use non certified, lacking bands CDMA devices on Verizon's network without any major issues. Granted it's not optimal service, but it's the compromise of not having to carry two phones.
3. Sounds like you have some hate complex for people who live in the US. Only 10% of XDA users? Where'd you find that, and why is it important?
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Also it does take more then just popping in a Sim for Verizon especially. There is a certification that needs to be done unless that has changed in the last couple years.
But the OnePlus does include a CDMA radio with all the supported band for Verizon. You can try calling Verizon and see if they will add you IMEI number to their system. But that is a gamble to take. Other then that Verizon would have to accept the OnePlus as a whole to run 4glte on the phones.
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It has a CDMA modem it has enough bands for Verizon I used the OnePlus 5 on version you only get 3G if you enable LTE you wont get calls or text. It's a Verizon support issue the hardware is there
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I have a 1+3T. It has two of of three Verizon LTE bands: 2,4 but not 13. It also has CDMA band BC0. I have my personal SIM on ATT and my company's is Verizon. That is correct, if you enable LTE, it's slower speed than normal and calls and text don't come through. I leave my ATT on primary data so it works out pretty good. I hate carrying two phones. You don't have to get them to add a IMEI number, just activate the SIM on a Verizon phone and then pop it into the Oneplus.
The 1+6 on the other hands has CDMA bands BC0 and BC1, so hopefully that improves 3G connection. Stupid that they ignore the largest US carrier and not put band 13 in there. In a couple years everything will be on LTE anyways. I'm very curious why LTE disables calls and texts......any ideas?
Just sad to see no CDMA support on such a growing phone I like the Oneplus so much I may go to T-Mobile