On most carriers my phone is not compatiable what do I need to do to get this phone onto any network? I had it unlocked by a very well respected website plz help o and the model isSM-G 955U I JUST bought the straight talk BYOB can anybody help greatly appreciated
Go back to that respectable company that gave you the unlock code and asked them why.You paid for a service and you didn't get what you expected.That should have been your first step. They will check with you 1st if the phone is really unlocked or not.Good luck.
Your device might be a CDMA one. Thus, you will not be able to use it on all networks.
What is the network of the SIM card you are trying to use?
RossTeagan said:
Your device might be a CDMA one. Thus, you will not be able to use it on all networks.
What is the network of the SIM card you are trying to use?
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All of the North America (Snapdragon) S8 (and plus) have all NA bands, including CDMA. It's the Exynos (European and Asian) variants that do not support CDMA.
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Your device might be a CDMA one. Thus, you will not be able to use it on all networks.
What is the network of the SIM card you are trying to use?
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I have ATnT t mobile sprint and Verizon from straight talk came in a their byob but I thought the s8 is cdma gan and lte
Pr3vo5t said:
I have ATnT t mobile sprint and Verizon from straight talk came in a their byob but I thought the s8 is cdma gan and lte
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You are correct. The S8 is CDMA capable.
USCC S8 is unlocked out the box, I had s6 that work on ATT and Tmobile by go into setting -> connect -> force it switch to Global/GSM. The problem I have with all these CDMA phone unlock for GSM is can't get MMS and the most annoying thing is someone in the state call it kept thinking as internaltional call. Example like 201xxxxxxxxx, the phone think 20 is from Egypt.
Hopefully, S8 is will do what iPhone can..... fix the area code issue.
cam30era said:
All of the North America (Snapdragon) S8 (and plus) have all NA bands, including CDMA. It's the Exynos (European and Asian) variants that do not support CDMA.
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So basically the new S8 should support both CDMA and GSM right?
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Pr3vo5t said:
I have ATnT t mobile sprint and Verizon from straight talk came in a their byob but I thought the s8 is cdma gan and lte
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What is the exact message your device displays when inserting an att card?
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So basically the new S8 should support both CDMA and GSM right?
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Correct for the US (snapdragon) version. The Exynos version does not support CDMA.
Edit: See posts #10 and #12 below for clarification from @zelendel.
cam30era said:
Correct for the US (snapdragon) version. The Exynos version does not support CDMA.
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That depends on where in the US you are. All devices in my state are Euro devices and none are the US model. Even the Straight talk devices are Euro models.
zelendel said:
That depends on where in the US you are. All devices in my state are Euro devices and none are the US model. Even the Straight talk devices are Euro models.
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Really? I didn't know that. My understanding was that all major US carriers were only selling snapdragon variants. And the big box stores, as well.
Would you mind sharing what state you are in, and who sells the Exynos version in the US?
Thanks....
cam30era said:
Really? I didn't know that. My understanding was that all major US carriers were only selling snapdragon variants. And the big box stores, as well.
Would you mind sharing what state you are in, and who sells the Exynos version in the US?
Thanks....
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I live in Alaska. As for the major US carriers. Yeah well we have ATT and verizon just got here but they are both thinking about leaving (not the first time) People in this state prefer Companies founded in the state so our biggest carrier is GCI. I am used by alot of devs to get the "good" devices without them having to pay stupid shipping. But you can walk into any store here and buy the euro device. Even walmart.
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I live in Alaska. As for the major US carriers. Yeah well we have ATT and verizon just got here but they are both thinking about leaving (not the first time) People in this state prefer Companies founded in the state so our biggest carrier is GCI. I am used by alot of devs to get the "good" devices without them having to pay stupid shipping. But you can walk into any store here and buy the euro device. Even walmart.
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Amazing (as in good). Thanks for setting the record straight.
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Amazing (as in good). Thanks for setting the record straight.
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Glad I could help. It freaked me out as well the first time I found this out. Being here gave me the ability to get a Samsung devicewith a snapdragon chip and an unlockable bootloader. Mid you that was a few generations ago but I keep tabs on what they are offering in case someone hits me up to get them one.
Also helps that there is no sales tax here.
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So basically the new S8 should support both CDMA and GSM right?
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What is the exact message your device displays when inserting an att card?
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It just says mobile network not available and the network is a circle with a / through it. It reads the sim cards just for some odd reason its not doing what it should do
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It just says mobile network not available and the network is a circle with a / through it. It reads the sim cards just for some odd reason its not doing what it should do
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Try to use another SIM card from a GSM provider (att or tmob) and at the same time, insert your present SIM card in another device to see if it works.
or if you fix the issue already, let me know
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It just says mobile network not available and the network is a circle with a / through it. It reads the sim cards just for some odd reason its not doing what it should do
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Check your imei. If it is wiped you won't be able to connect
Uhuuu. That would be bad. IMEI can be wiped only by a custom rom correct? Bad or wrong recovery etc.
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Check your imei. If it is wiped you won't be able to connect
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Uhuuu. That would be bad. IMEI can be wiped only by a custom rom correct? Bad or wrong recovery etc.
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Depending on the device. Samsung devices are known for self corruption. That has been their MO since windows mobile.
It shows what my imei is and it says my phone number and everything just not be no service circle
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Previously on the S4 I came to the conclusion I could use the international variant of it on Verizon as it had the proper CDMA bands for the job, is this the same case with the S6? Could I buy the international one that is unlocked and use it on VZW network without problems and if I have them what would they be? Going to do my own homework of course but I always want XDA's opinion on things like this.
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Previously on the S4 I came to the conclusion I could use the international variant of it on Verizon as it had the proper CDMA bands for the job, is this the same case with the S6? Could I buy the international one that is unlocked and use it on VZW network without problems and if I have them what would they be? Going to do my own homework of course but I always want XDA's opinion on things like this.
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I was actually in the process of typing up this thread myself! I am also interested in the answer to this one. And can the international version be rooted? I need me some Greenify!
Edit: After speaking to a Verizon rep online, I was told "In theory, it should work; but we cannot guarantee device usability and stability from non-verizon devices".
Any other XDA thoughts?
Basketballhero75 said:
I was actually in the process of typing up this thread myself! I am also interested in the answer to this one. And can the international version be rooted? I need me some Greenify!
Edit: After speaking to a Verizon rep online, I was told "In theory, it should work; but we cannot guarantee device usability and stability from non-verizon devices".
Any other XDA thoughts?
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The International one is fully bootloader unlockable and rootable from the start, hence why I want it over this locked down one. Though someone suggested to me in a PM to post this in the international forum so I will try that and update here with whatever results I get.
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
The International one is fully bootloader unlockable and rootable from the start, hence why I want it over this locked down one. Though someone suggested to me in a PM to post this in the international forum so I will try that and update here with whatever results I get.
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From what I could find it won't work because it's GSM and won't work with CDMA carriers. Here is a link to the info I found.
I remember reading that the Verizon and Sprint variants have a separate Qualcom modem in them to connect to their CDMA and LTE bands.
I have the US Verizon Galaxy S6 as well as my wife now. Currently in Cancun using a popped in TelCel SIM card seeing crazy 4G speeds on the hotel strip area.
So yea. The S6 from Verizon is killer with foreign SIMs.
Lil
lilsalmon said:
I have the US Verizon Galaxy S6 as well as my wife now. Currently in Cancun using a popped in TelCel SIM card seeing crazy 4G speeds on the hotel strip area.
So yea. The S6 from Verizon is killer with foreign SIMs.
Lil
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Can i ask what this has to do with OPs question?
Sorry I just reread the post and thought it was referencing using the vzw version abroad.
You can delete my post if it offends you that much. Was just trying to help because I just went through the process of using it in Mexico for the first time.
It's not that big of a deal, I just thought I was missing something
No worries here ...
Any answers yet? Thanks.
Just want to let you all know the international version will not work on Verizon.
I have one was going to sell on craigslist and we met at verizon and it will not recognize the mobile network.
Im still trying to sale this thing lol
Will other networks ever get this phone ?
I bought mine directly from the Google Store and I am currently using on Tmobile.
I have also read of users buying from Google and activating on Sprint.
I'm on Sprint and bought directly from Google. The Sprint store didn't have the micro SIM or whatever this phone takes, so I had to buy one from best buy. The people that work at the Sprint store are really stupid, so don't bother having them activate it for you. Youre better off calling them and actually talking to someone or doing a live chat online. Trying to activate it yourself on their website doesn't work either
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Will other networks ever get this phone ?
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What kind of question is this? I hope you mean will the Pixel ever be branded by another carrier not if other networks will "ever get this phone". What exactly is the point of this question?
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I have also read of users buying from Google and activating on Sprint.
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It's absurd. I'm on Project Fi and I have Sprint, T-Mobile and US Celluar all active. The OP clearly has asked the wrong question.
bought mine directly from Google, activated on Verizon, then changed to Metro PCS about a week later.
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Will other networks ever get this phone ?
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Lol big face palm! This is a factory unlocked device from Google meaning you can use it on any network as you please. Verizon on the other hand is the only carrier that's selling it as they have an agreement.
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Will other networks ever get this phone ?
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Bought mine from the google store. Currently on Straight Talk
What he is talking about us carrier carried. You have to remember that less then one percent of people buy their devices outside of their carrier. Most won't buy a device if the carrier doesn't carry it.
I think they work on any US carrier. I bought Verizon model and have used exclusively on T-Mobile with excellent results
mrpickem said:
I think they work on any US carrier. I bought Verizon model and have used exclusively on T-Mobile with excellent results
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The only real diff is that the CDMA have to have the CDMA telephony files and programs that are not open source. These things can only be done by the carrier as they are each very different.
Hope whoever got it from Google and is on T-Mobile is taking advantage of the T-Mobile pixel promo...
The Verizon model is sim unlocked. I use mine on at&t go.
He's probably asking whether the carriers will have it on plan contracts for lower upfront prices.
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What he is talking about us carrier carried. You have to remember that less then one percent of people buy their devices outside of their carrier. Most won't buy a device if the carrier doesn't carry it.
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That's exactly what he meant. Thanks for being the reasonable one, as always!
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Hope whoever got it from Google and is on T-Mobile is taking advantage of the T-Mobile pixel promo...
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Dude, you rock, thank you. I'm calling about this today.
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twiztidmn said:
bought mine directly from Google, activated on Verizon, then changed to Metro PCS about a week later.
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do you be having slow 4g lte speeds around your area? [metropcs]
i do and im in a strong spot and they swap out sim cards but no luck
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If the phone is IMEI blocked, which is likely is if reported lost or stolen, then you won't be able to use it on any network in that country afaik
you can't unlock your phone only by rooting and changing apn.
but you can try to contact the person who sold this phone and ask him to fix this issue, I think it may work
felipeoguyar said:
Hi I'm new to posting on forums so if I break protocol or etiquette apologize in advance. two weeks ago I bought a t-mobile samsung galaxy s7 from craigslist only to find it was reported lost. the phone is not catching signal anymore and I can't use it. friend of mine told me that I can unlock the network via unlock code so I could use my cricket mobile sim with this phone. I made online research and found few sim unlocking services so my question is- can use one of them to unlock my phone or I can unlock it by rooting, changing apn settings etc?
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Good rule of thumb I have learned and used is to check google locks before seller leaves, And make them sign a bill of sale Printed name date and address, in most states in the U.S. most of these phones are valued over 500$ which With no profe You are technically in possession of stolen property which if valued over 500$ is a felony charge.
I have had a few close calls in the past but I do not now. It sucks cause you can get burned 2 ways.....
orig owner still prob owed on it figured they could sell it and then claim insurance. seen it done many times over to people.
mattzaher said:
why seller reported this phone lost after selling or it was earlier?
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Unfortunately some people do do this. Its crooked Always get a bill of sale and check for google locks if seller is in hurry, Pass it on as much as you may want a certain device and your getting a deal.
I think people get these phones on contract for no other reason than to sell them, then they either report lost or stolen, or don't pay the contract and it gets IMEI blocked
That, or they are stolen phones
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I think people get these phones on contract for no other reason than to sell them, then they either report lost or stolen, or don't pay the contract and it gets IMEI blocked
That, or they are stolen phones
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I have seen it a million times over happen
sammyalexandro said:
it's very risky to buy a used phone in hurry without making sure that 'history' of this phone was good. I think better to add couple hundreds bucks and buy a new phone directly from carrier
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sometimes the difference not only "couple hundreds" and used phone is much cheaper then new one. so better to buy a locked phone and then unlock it using sim network unlock puk code
what is the difference between Samsung Galaxy S7 G930A; G930P; G930V; G930T; G930R; G930U for sim unlocking? which one is easier to unlock? thanks
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what is the difference between Samsung Galaxy S7 G930A; G930P; G930V; G930T; G930R; G930U for sim unlocking?
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SM-G930A (AT&T, Cricket)
SM-G930P (Sprint, Boost, Virgin Mobile)
SM-G930V (Verizon);
SM-G930T (T-Mobile, Metro PCS)
SM-G930R (US Cellular)
also they have:
SM-G930F (Global)
SM-G930FD (Global; Southeast Asia)
SM-G930W8 (Canada)
which one is easier to unlock? thanks
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all US, Canadian and European models
As a general rule, whenever you will buy another device from a person or third party, check the IMEI both http://imeipro.info/
At least this is one extra filter through which you make sure you buy a phone with a clean IMEI.
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which one is dual sim 128GB which support all t-mobile lte bands? SM-G9350, SM-G935W8, SM-G930U, SM-G930VL, SM-G930V, SM-G930R4, SM-G930T, SM-G930P, SM-G930R7, SM-G930R6, SM-G930T1, SM-G930A, SM-G930AZ, SM-G930FD, SM-G930S, SM-G930L, SM-G930K, SM-G930F, SM-G9300, SM-G9308, SM-G930W8
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SM-G930FD is dual sim variant
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thanks.
is this model DSDA (dual sim dual active) or DSDS (dual sim dual standby) ?
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it's DSDS (dual sim dual standby), but you can activate some sort of imitation of "active" mode in settings. if sim1 is busy and someone calling on sim2 (which is offline because the phone has only one baseband) all income calls on sim2 will be redirected on sim1
quick question
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SM-G930A (AT&T, Cricket)
SM-G930P (Sprint, Boost, Virgin Mobile)
SM-G930V (Verizon);
SM-G930T (T-Mobile, Metro PCS)
SM-G930R (US Cellular)
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SM-G930F (Global)
SM-G930FD (Global; Southeast Asia)
SM-G930W8 (Canada)
all US, Canadian and European models
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you say they are the easiest but im having trouble. i have s7 tmobile i flashed to att then rooted it then i checked and esn check it passes but i cant get back to tmobile to try the device unlock app is there a root app i can use to unlock the network? or updated thread that will help? would you mind?
felipeoguyar said:
Hi I'm new to posting on forums so if I break protocol or etiquette apologize in advance. two weeks ago I bought a t-mobile samsung galaxy s7 from craigslist only to find it was reported lost. the phone is not catching signal anymore and I can't use it. friend of mine told me that I can unlock the network via unlock code so I could use my cricket mobile sim with this phone. I made online research and found few sim unlocking services so my question is- can use one of them to unlock my phone or I can unlock it by rooting, changing apn settings etc?
[UPDATE] unlocked successfully with www.samsungsimunlock.com
thanks
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what about 4g/LTE connection after unlocking? it working well or you have only 3g connection?
ok so just wondering
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you should flash t-mobile stock rom, clean cache/dalvik cache and unlock it using Network Unlock app. after that you will be able to flash any custom ROM
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im now back to g930t do i need to agree to the device data collection from tmobile pink screen in initial setup process for this to work?. and to clear dalvik cache dont i need to be rooted for that? i thought flashing back to stock does that automatically. thank you for your patience im still learning,( but totally dedicated in this art. ask my wife.) one more question since tmobile has terms for unlock policy one being on network for min of 40 days, does that mean i need to request unlock using a tmo sim inserted or can this be done using wifi? reason i ask is becasue im a att user and another policy for unlock is 2 requests per 90 days. and ive already attempted a temp and perm unlock. both said inelegiable. so im trying to narrow it down to see if i needed to have tmo sim inserted at the time to connect to there remote servers. if so since i didnt at thetime of request im hoping that the 2 unlock requests didnt count. and on the other hand that would be a pain because i dont have a tmo sim. or could this be achieved using wifi.?
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felipeoguyar said:
Hi I'm new to posting on forums so if I break protocol or etiquette apologize in advance. two weeks ago I bought a t-mobile samsung galaxy s7 from craigslist only to find it was reported lost. the phone is not catching signal anymore and I can't use it. friend of mine told me that I can unlock the network via unlock code so I could use my cricket mobile sim with this phone. I made online research and found few sim unlocking services so my question is- can use one of them to unlock my phone or I can unlock it by rooting, changing apn settings etc?
[UPDATE] unlocked successfully with www.samsungsimunlock.com
thanks
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was that site effective because i was thinking about goin the same route and did a few reviews and found that people were saying that it didnt work. heard that it was using a dummy app to say that it was unlocked but truely was not. can u confirm this unlock method is still workin for you?
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does it always stack quotes like that? i posted replys seperately but some reason it stacked them.
julianalaqrua said:
what about 4g/LTE connection after unlocking? it working well or you have only 3g connection?
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as I know, this phone support all LTE bands so 4g will work correctly after unlocking I think
ronnycopsetta said:
dalvik cache cleaning is only custom recovery feature or I can do it using stock recovery?
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yes, you can do it using stock recovery as well
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yes, you can do it using stock recovery as well
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I think TWRP recovery will work better in this case
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what iа the phone is not rooted? is it possible to install TWRP recovery on stock phone ?
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There is a deal today of the Pixel International version model# G-2PW4200. I want to buy this for my wife. We are on the grandfathered Verizon Unlimited plan. The seller states that it will work with all carriers including Verizon but not with Sprint (not that I care). I have searched to be certain but have not come with any answers. Does anyone know if this phone will work with Verizon?
Thanks
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There is a deal today of the Pixel International version model# G-2PW4200. I want to buy this for my wife. We are on the grandfathered Verizon Unlimited plan. The seller states that it will work with all carriers including Verizon but not with Sprint (not that I care). I have searched to be certain but have not come with any answers. Does anyone know if this phone will work with Verizon?
Thanks
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This may help:
https://www.techwalls.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl-model-number-differences/
phaino00 said:
This may help:
https://www.techwalls.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl-model-number-differences/
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I've seen that. That shows it supports more CDMA bands that US version, yet seller says it will not work on Sprint. That is why I am so confused
https://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/...sm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/.
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I've seen that. That shows it supports more CDMA bands that US version, yet seller says it will not work on Sprint. That is why I am so confused
https://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/...m-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/.
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This site may help:
https://willmyphonework.net
phaino00 said:
This may help:
https://www.techwalls.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl-model-number-differences/
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I've seen that. That shows it supports more CDMA bands that US version, yet seller says it will not work on Sprint. That is why I am so confused
https://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/...sm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/.
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I've seen that. That shows it supports more CDMA bands that US version, yet seller says it will not work on Sprint. That is why I am so confused
https://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/...m-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/.
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It appears it will work on US' Verizon network.
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It appears it will work on US' Verizon network.
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UPDATE: The phone does indeed work on Verizon.
However under my devices on the Verizon website the phone nor model is listed. It does list the other phones/models on my account but not this one.
Bad Bimr said:
UPDATE: The phone does indeed work on Verizon.
However under my devices on the Verizon website the phone nor model is listed. It does list the other phones/models on my account but not this one.
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Thank you, It solve my problem.
What about Sprint? I have 4200 and want to switch to Sprint for this "1 year free unlimited" promo.
Anyone tried using Sprint on Global version?
Anyone think the OnePlus 6 will add support for Verizon or Sprint? Would be very wise to do so as Verizon is the largest US carrier.
TechOut said:
Anyone think the OnePlus 6 will add support for Verizon or Sprint? Would be very wise to do so as Verizon is the largest US carrier.
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Verizon is not very friendly towards unlockable bootloaders, so most likely no. The bands might be there, but Verizon wont accept it on their network. Might work on CDMA carriers abroad though. Sprint might accept it on their BYOD plans. Trying not to get too hyped about this device. If I like what I see and hear, I'll be getting the OP6 and handing down my S9+.
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Verizon is not very friendly towards unlockable bootloaders, so most likely no. The bands might be there, but Verizon wont accept it on their network. Might work on CDMA carriers abroad though. Sprint might accept it on their BYOD plans. Trying not to get too hyped about this device. If I like what I see and hear, I'll be getting the OP6 and handing down my S9+.
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I have sprint so I hope CDMA is there for BYOD
According to OnePlus.net ut only supports T-Mobile AT&T and U.S Cellular. Such a shame that they make such a good device at an awesome price and its only compatible with half the major us carriers
The US carriers are to blame here, not oneplus! There is absolutely no reason for them not to make it compatible.
Dabarr said:
The US carriers are to blame here, not oneplus! There is absolutely no reason for them not to make it compatible.
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No it's one pluses fault. They don't want to pay the licensing needed (it's not cheap) for CDMA networks. It's that simple. So it's no one's fault really. It's just business.
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No it's one pluses fault. They don't want to pay the licensing needed (it's not cheap) for CDMA networks. It's that simple. So it's no one's fault really. It's just business.
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You don't need certification to use a phone on Verizon's network. You just need the bands. You just pop a sim in and it works.
Josh LaCelle said:
You don't need certification to use a phone on Verizon's network. You just need the bands. You just pop a sim in and it works.
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You clearly have no idea how these things work. There are tons of things that go into "just popping in a sim card and it works" There are things from the CDMA network that are vastly different. Like the all of the telephone software. Which you have to pay a license to use. Not to mention using the modems on CDMA devices which also costs money.
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You clearly have no idea how these things work. There are tons of things that go into "just popping in a sim card and it works" There are things from the CDMA network that are vastly different. Like the all of the telephone software. Which you have to pay a license to use. Not to mention using the modems on CDMA devices which also costs money.
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You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. I am talking about using a non-verizon phone on Verizon's network. I have used non-verizon phones on Verizon's network with no problem at all! You just need the bands you don't need Verizon's certification.
Josh LaCelle said:
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. I am talking about using a non-verizon phone on Verizon's network. I have used non-verizon phones on Verizon's network with no problem at all! You just need the bands you don't need Verizon's certification.
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That is a device that is already paying for the licenses. You have to be from the states and still very young. This is why you have no idea about what you are talking about. To sell a device in the states you have to state if the device is a GSM or CDMA device or both. Then you pay the licensing for that. Many smaller companies refuse to pay the fees for CDMA as it is out dated tech. (heck even China stopped using it for the most part. Verizon will soon be completely our of the CDMA network)
Trust me it takes more then just the bands. Even the dialer software is different on a CDMA based device and that software is closed sourced.
This is the main reason smaller OEM dont support CDMA networks. They just dont want to pay for the extra licenses they need (that and they suck lol)
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That is a device that is already paying for the licenses. You have to be from the states and still very young. This is why you have no idea about what you are talking about. To sell a device in the states you have to state if the device is a GSM or CDMA device or both. Then you pay the licensing for that. Many smaller companies refuse to pay the fees for CDMA as it is out dated tech. (heck even China stopped using it for the most part. Verizon will soon be completely our of the CDMA network)
Trust me it takes more then just the bands. Even the dialer software is different on a CDMA based device and that software is closed sourced.
This is the main reason smaller OEM dont support CDMA networks. They just dont want to pay for the extra licenses they need (that and they suck lol)
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I don't think you are understanding what I am saying. I am from the states and very young. I am 5 years old.
Anyways, I totally agree with what you are saying. My point is you can run non-verizon phones on Verizon network. They don't need any amount of certification from Verizon at all to do that!
Josh LaCelle said:
I don't think you are understanding what I am saying. I am from the states and very young. I am 5 years old.
Anyways, I totally agree with what you are saying. My point is you can run non-verizon phones on Verizon network. They don't need any amount of certification from Verizon at all to do that!
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What you are getting is that is not always the case. Go ahead and take any device that doesnt support CDMA like many devices from China based OEM and you will find that even with the bands that you can pop a sim card in and nothing will work. ITs not from Verizon that they need the certification. Its from the FCC and the CDMA commission. This happens long before you even know the device is even made.
You can not use your experience as a be all end all here. Users in the states make up about 10% of XDA users and the rules for cell phones are very different in the states then they are in the rest of the world.
Either way it doesnt matter.
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What you are getting is that is not always the case. Go ahead and take any device that doesnt support CDMA like many devices from China based OEM and you will find that even with the bands that you can pop a sim card in and nothing will work. ITs not from Verizon that they need the certification. Its from the FCC and the CDMA commission. This happens long before you even know the device is even made.
You can not use your experience as a be all end all here. Users in the states make up about 10% of XDA users and the rules for cell phones are very different in the states then they are in the rest of the world.
Either way it doesnt matter.
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Obviously you can't read or like to argue with someone.
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You clearly have no idea how these things work. There are tons of things that go into "just popping in a sim card and it works" There are things from the CDMA network that are vastly different. Like the all of the telephone software. Which you have to pay a license to use. Not to mention using the modems on CDMA devices which also costs money.
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It has a CDMA modem it has enough bands for Verizon I used the OnePlus 5 on version you only get 3G if you enable LTE you wont get calls or text. It's a Verizon support issue the hardware is there
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It has a CDMA modem it has enough bands for Verizon I used the OnePlus 5 on version you only get 3G if you enable LTE you wont get calls or text. It's a Verizon support issue the hardware is there
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Not Verizon support. It is missing band 13 which Verizon uses for LTE.
Josh LaCelle said:
Not Verizon support. It is missing band 13 which Verizon uses for LTE.
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Still works though not all bands are required. It may affect signal in some areas but not all
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Not Verizon support. It is missing band 13 which Verizon uses for LTE.
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Nevermind, thinking about Tmobile
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Also it does take more then just popping in a Sim for Verizon especially. There is a certification that needs to be done unless that has changed in the last couple years.
But the OnePlus does include a CDMA radio with all the supported band for Verizon. You can try calling Verizon and see if they will add you IMEI number to their system. But that is a gamble to take. Other then that Verizon would have to accept the OnePlus as a whole to run 4glte on the phones.
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Nevermind, thinking about Tmobile
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Also it does take more then just popping in a Sim for Verizon especially. There is a certification that needs to be done unless that has changed in the last couple years.
But the OnePlus does include a CDMA radio with all the supported band for Verizon. You can try calling Verizon and see if they will add you IMEI number to their system. But that is a gamble to take. Other then that Verizon would have to accept the OnePlus as a whole to run 4glte on the phones.
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Verizon doesn't whitelist IMEIs you can put a sim in and use it on 3G just fine. Verizon does use band 13 but you dont need all bands for it to work. Sprint does whitelist IMEIs so it will not work on sprint period
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What you are getting is that is not always the case. Go ahead and take any device that doesnt support CDMA like many devices from China based OEM and you will find that even with the bands that you can pop a sim card in and nothing will work. ITs not from Verizon that they need the certification. Its from the FCC and the CDMA commission. This happens long before you even know the device is even made.
You can not use your experience as a be all end all here. Users in the states make up about 10% of XDA users and the rules for cell phones are very different in the states then they are in the rest of the world.
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I can't tell if your trolling or if you're genuinely a nasty person....
1. " take any device that DOESN'T support CDMA like many devices from China based OEM" I assume you meant that many Chinese devices DO use CDMA. Because what you said is incorrect. On top of that, not all CDMA bands are the same, so of course Chinese CDMA phones won't register on Verizon's network.
2. You can't dismiss his experiences either, or mine. I use non certified, lacking bands CDMA devices on Verizon's network without any major issues. Granted it's not optimal service, but it's the compromise of not having to carry two phones.
3. Sounds like you have some hate complex for people who live in the US. Only 10% of XDA users? Where'd you find that, and why is it important?
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Also it does take more then just popping in a Sim for Verizon especially. There is a certification that needs to be done unless that has changed in the last couple years.
But the OnePlus does include a CDMA radio with all the supported band for Verizon. You can try calling Verizon and see if they will add you IMEI number to their system. But that is a gamble to take. Other then that Verizon would have to accept the OnePlus as a whole to run 4glte on the phones.
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It has a CDMA modem it has enough bands for Verizon I used the OnePlus 5 on version you only get 3G if you enable LTE you wont get calls or text. It's a Verizon support issue the hardware is there
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I have a 1+3T. It has two of of three Verizon LTE bands: 2,4 but not 13. It also has CDMA band BC0. I have my personal SIM on ATT and my company's is Verizon. That is correct, if you enable LTE, it's slower speed than normal and calls and text don't come through. I leave my ATT on primary data so it works out pretty good. I hate carrying two phones. You don't have to get them to add a IMEI number, just activate the SIM on a Verizon phone and then pop it into the Oneplus.
The 1+6 on the other hands has CDMA bands BC0 and BC1, so hopefully that improves 3G connection. Stupid that they ignore the largest US carrier and not put band 13 in there. In a couple years everything will be on LTE anyways. I'm very curious why LTE disables calls and texts......any ideas?
Just sad to see no CDMA support on such a growing phone I like the Oneplus so much I may go to T-Mobile