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[APP] Slingplayer for Android NOW AVAILABLE in the Market

Just ran across this, has anyone heard anything? I haven't seen it on any other site and really not familiar with this one.
http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2010-06/slingplayer-for-android-launches-tonight/
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Looks like it will actually be released tomorrow, this link also has the press release.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/21/slingplayer-mobile-for-android-ready-to-entertain-you-for-30-st/
Edit again: NOW AVAILABLE!

http://gizmodo.com/5569265/slingpla...eed&utm_campaign=Feed:+gizmodo/full+(Gizmodo)
It will be the highest priced app in the market, unless there is something higher than 30$..

Eclair~ said:
It will be the highest priced app in the market, unless there is something higher than 30$..
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Yeah, which is getting out of hand (at least, for me). I've had my Slingbox for several years and I've switched mobile platforms during that time. No discount and my licenses go to waste. I'm guessing I'm up to at least $100 in just Slingbox player (WinMo, iPhone, etc.).
It wouldn't bother me, since I do use the app, but I'm guessing they're about to milk me another time when they launch the iPad app. There's no sign they will opt for universal app. Second, their follow up support sucks. They're lucky they have such a useful product because their player development cycle (waaay too long), licensing scheme ("buy the hardware and never pay" except for our software) and support isn't winning a single award.
edit: OH, and another thing... their ridiculous ability to charge $30 for software that they aren't willing to state whether it will work with my Slingbox AV. I get to roll the dice and maybe one day it will go dark.

Been waiting for this app also. Besides the $30 cost there will be nothing better for live streaming from your tv. Had it for windows mobile and iphone. Watched directv all over town. This is the best $30 you can spend. Sucked when they shutdown the sling community forums and opened up the new "staff driven" support forums. Sling community was great and helped a lot of people.

timmins said:
Yeah, which is getting out of hand (at least, for me). I've had my Slingbox for several years and I've switched mobile platforms during that time. No discount and my licenses go to waste. I'm guessing I'm up to at least $100 in just Slingbox player (WinMo, iPhone, etc.).
It wouldn't bother me, since I do use the app, but I'm guessing they're about to milk me another time when they launch the iPad app. There's no sign they will opt for universal app. Second, their follow up support sucks. They're lucky they have such a useful product because their player development cycle (waaay too long), licensing scheme ("buy the hardware and never pay" except for our software) and support isn't winning a single award.
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I wonder if you would be able to transfer the iphone to ipad? I am sure this won't work to transfer to android though.
http://support.slingbox.com/get/KB-1000194.html
At least its just a one time charge, not sure what the other companies (not t-mobile) charge to have the TV type services.

jdscully said:
I wonder if you would be able to transfer the iphone to ipad? I am sure this won't work to transfer to android though.
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I'm digging into their forum/answers site and it looks like my old, old Windows Mobile license can transfer so long as the Android player is a trial version that accepts licenses. The iPhone app is a different beast than their usual software since Apple has complete control over the distribution of the app. I guess I learned tonight that it's quite possible to transfer from WinMo to Blackberry to Symbian. Your license is only active on one install.
I'm crossing my fingers they took this into consideration.

why on earth are they charging so damn much of this thing? Really, its just a player, thats a third of what I payed for the slingbox itself. But if this same app works on google tv, I might have a purpose for this app.
"When in your mobile phone provider's area of 3G, 4G or Wi-Fi coverage and connected to a Slingbox® SOLO, PRO or PRO-HD, SlingPlayer Mobile makes it simple to watch and control your living room television at any time from any location."
no dice on my slingbox tuner then i guess

What IS slingplayer?

Blueman101 said:
why on earth are they charging so damn much of this thing? Really, its just a player, thats a third of what I payed for the slingbox itself. But if this same app works on google tv, I might have a purpose for this app.
"When in your mobile phone provider's area of 3G, 4G or Wi-Fi coverage and connected to a Slingbox® SOLO, PRO or PRO-HD, SlingPlayer Mobile makes it simple to watch and control your living room television at any time from any location."
no dice on my slingbox tuner then i guess
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Working on my Slingbox AV but it says "some streams will not work". No clue why "some" wouldn't and others would.

jdscully said:
Working on my Slingbox AV but it says "some streams will not work". No clue why "some" wouldn't and others would.
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more then likely the older models work perfectly well, but they can sell the solo and pro's for a lot more then a tuner or an AV. It probably all about money. Their site says "tuner and AV is not supported. It is highly recommended to get the newer slingboxs" This is what it said for the iphone moblie app.

hmmm....i guess its about time to finally purchase a slingbox.

not showing up in the market for me -running frf50
edit; now it is using THIS

I have 3 slingboxes at work, an original, pro (i think next model after the original) and a new HD one. Only the HD one works. The iphone version supports all three. The prices on these players is wacked. I don't mind paying but jeez. Buy a $30 app just to find out I need to buy like $600 worth of new boxes. Good looking out Google with the 24 hour refund period.

hollywooder said:
What IS slingplayer?
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Google it?

I also think that having to buy the app at full price if you already are a slingbox owner is ridiculous!!! At least give current owners a discount or something!! And it's not like the app is cheap, $30 is type expensive just for the app...no??
Can someone please post the Slingbox.APK if it's ok/allowed or send it to me via PM? so we can see if our current licenses would work??? I'd greatly appreciate it as I'm many others would as well!!!

Best purchase since the N1

still cant see it here....

Do I NEED a sling box for this to work?

G1-evolve said:
Do I NEED a sling box for this to work?
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yes you do

Blueman101 said:
yes you do
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prices for a sling box online are ridiculous..

CorePlayer - Demoed at CES

CorePlayer has supposedly been demoed at CES and Core is at the stage now where they're just "Working on the Market LVL" (whatever that is) and fixing some bugs. It'll certainly not be a free app, and probably quiet expensive, (The existing versions are $29.99!) but if you have a look at their site you can see that it supports pretty much everything imaginable (ala VLC really).
Given the high price, the app is going to need to be a lot better than VPlayer etc, and realistically no matter how good it is, I'm not paying that much for a video player app. It's possible that the Apple & Android versions may be more realistically priced seeing as there _is_ good competition on those platforms (i.e VLC, VPlayer/Rockplayer, Galaxy tab's native player even).
They've been saying "soon" for several months, maybe now they've supposedly demoed the product (although no one seems to have actually seen it), it won't be far off.
It's always good to have options.

I wouldn't worry too much about the pricing:-
1. PC versions are always more expensive than App only.
2. To remain competitive Coreplayer will have to keep their pricing 'realistic'.
My guess is we shall see this title hitting the App store for something around the $9.99 mark.
An issue will be with the H.264 codec, which Google are in the news with at the moment.

Beards said:
I wouldn't worry too much about the pricing:-
1. PC versions are always more expensive than App only.
2. To remain competitive Coreplayer will have to keep their pricing 'realistic'.
My guess is we shall see this title hitting the App store for something around the $9.99 mark.
An issue will be with the H.264 codec, which Google are in the news with at the moment.
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It's not the PC versions that are $29.99, it's the mobile versions!

knightnz said:
It's not the PC versions that are $29.99, it's the mobile versions!
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WHAT..... You've got to be joking.

Beards said:
WHAT..... You've got to be joking.
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I know, I had to double-check that one, but every one of the mobile versions is $29.99.
Methinks their marketing dept is a bit optimistic.

I'm not too excited about this. Every time i did try a CorePlayer, the results sucked!
Might be because it had never been too.... paid, but not being able to play mp3 or h264 in the Mac version? lol.
And file support varies hugely depending on the platform, the big one is just for Windows, everything else is crippled.
But maybe they'll surprise me, who knows!

AlexTheStampede said:
I'm not too excited about this. Every time i did try a CorePlayer, the results sucked!
Might be because it had never been too.... paid, but not being able to play mp3 or h264 in the Mac version? lol.
And file support varies hugely depending on the platform, the big one is just for Windows, everything else is crippled.
But maybe they'll surprise me, who knows!
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It is possible to build a (free) version of VLC for Android now and a proper release of it shouldn't be far off, so Core's app is going to have to be both very good and very cheap, or they're not going to get very far.
That said, they're releasing it for iOS as well which already has VLC, so it'll be interesting to see what their gameplan is. VLC isn't exactly the most attractive application, so maybe they'll have a fantastic UI.

knightnz said:
It is possible to build a (free) version of VLC for Android now and a proper release of it shouldn't be far off, so Core's app is going to have to be both very good and very cheap, or they're not going to get very far.
That said, they're releasing it for iOS as well which already has VLC, so it'll be interesting to see what their gameplan is. VLC isn't exactly the most attractive application, so maybe they'll have a fantastic UI.
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Agreed..... Attractive UI or not, Coreplayer as good as it's name has previously made it is up amongst some serious competition.
They are going to have to forget their previous popularity on the territory they once used to hold well and be realistic on pricing if they desire to attain their status.
Having to pay for codec's is one thing but not at the expense of making you financially unpopular.

core player has been around since winmo 5.5 days and it was even on palm os and no i dont mean web os. It was the ONLY player for it back then but then they started charging an arm leg and one other part for it on winmo. why would u pay 30$ for it if you can get rock player at 10 which supports the exact same thing

I think coreplayer will have more codec support when it is released, however..... corecodec have consistently misled its customer for years on when something is going to be released and what development will continue once released.
I paid that silly sum for coreplayer winmo6 as it stated on their website that "hardware encoding for MSM chipsets was coming soon". I had a touch HD (HD1) so the thought of being able to play all my ripped dvd on my little phone was very appealing.
They then promised more support with Version "2" and I am sure people bought version 1 thinking 2 was near to release as this was posted a number of times on their website forums. None of this happened.
We are now back to square one with Android, they have been working on this for more than 18 months and have very little to show for it in that if this pans out like their other efforts it will probably never happen and be 12 months behind everything else when they are supposed to be innovating.
Dont hold your breath, stick with Rockplayer.

I had Coreplayer on my N96 and it's BY FAR the best audio player out there...
I'm sitting on the edge of my chair for purchase...

Ultimate Android bile spewing "news"?

I really don't think I have ever reach such total and utter bull**** on the Internet ever. This "writer" is supposedly a professional CNET writer... Unbelievable...
This writer seems to be spewing bile at an uncontrollable rate, it's likely to flood the neighborhood. I'm guessing Apple pay her wages as well as CNET.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-57374842-266/buying-a-tablet-on-a-budget-android-or-ipad/?tag=mncol
" But with a weak supply of apps to choose from and some buggy software, are these iPad knockoffs worth it?"
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"I know you said you don't want to buy an iPad. But you may want to reconsider. And the reason I say that is even though the iPad 2 doesn't meet the same specs as some of these other tablets, it has a much broader set of apps available"
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" I've also found the Android software to be very buggy with the apps that are available"
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"Part of the problem with many Android tablets today is that the majority of them still run an older version of Android software called Honeycomb. This version of Android was specifically developed for tablets, and it's notoriously buggy. "
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And my favorite: Defending how fantastic a locked-in ecosystem is...
"But anything that has iTunes DRM on it, won't transfer to an Android device. Also, all the apps you've bought and downloaded onto your iPod Touch will not transfer to a new Android smartphone. And the iBooks that you've already downloaded for the iPod Touch also won't work on an Android phone. So for these reasons, I'd say you should just buy an iPhone to preserve the investment you've already made in the Apple iOS ecosystem."
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Is this typical of American journalism? If so, then it explains alot about the world's opinion of America.

Oh god, the comment section is gold.
Some guy mentioned the Sony Tablet S
That's Miss Reardon to you sausage smuggler
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How much did Apple pay you for this hatchet job on Android, Ms Reardon?
Android tablets are no more "iPad knockoffs" than Ford vehicles are Mercedes knockoffs. They are different products for different audiences.
Android is for people who want to get things done using a tablet. The alleged "weak supply" of apps hasn't stopped me from finding an apps (usually 20 or 30 of them) to do anything I want to do on my tablet. Perhaps that's because I can spell, know English, and have a certain amount of critical decision-making ability (as witnessed by my ownership of a $27 million company).
Apple products are for people with lots of money, very little intelligence, and a "need" for 500 "different" fart apps
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Derpy answer:
Can you use an android tablet for music production?
Nope!
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I would have recommended you to talk about the 200 Gazillions versions of Android OS (one per manufacture almost) all of them carrying names as ridiculous as the names on the Starbuck menu " Your tablet: with Android OS gran caffe macchiado Ice cream sandwich" or the "Honeycomb 2.2 served Frappe with 2 splenda"?
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wat
Had a Xoom. ya it had flash, sorta. caused more problems and restarts then it was worth. Got tired of the problems, and traded it for a first gen ipad, with half the ram, half the storage and half as many processors. No crashes, surfs faster, and has fewer problems with web-sites, even though it doesn't have flash. Everything about it's UI is smoother, and easier to understand. I guess Android works ok, but not sure that hating Apple is a good enough reason to find Android better.
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Got tired of the problems, and traded it for a first gen ipad, with half the ram, half the storage and half as many processors. No crashes
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half as many processors
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Let the apple fan boy have his "day"

r3dn1t3 said:
Let the apple fan boy have his "day"
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No offence m8 but i think your missing the point. Its fine for any 'private individual' to pimp the hell out of anything they like for what ever spurious personal reasons they have.
however ........ Ms Reardon is supposed to be a professional journalist. One of the central tenets of professional journalism (and one of the prime journalistic criticisms of online citizen journalism and blogging) is strict factual, impartiality especially on issues where commercial advantage/disadvantage may be derived from said comments.
At least (despite the phone hacking scandal) thats what journalism generally means in the UK at any rate ......... maybe America has a different concept of impartiality ........ judging from Fox news this is definitely the case.
CNET is a POS but that woman is still a damned disgrace, she's doing a massive disservice to anyone unlucky enough to find her blog whilst looking for impartial advice.
A Twitter campaign could maybe help.

Fox news is not news, just like ipads/iphone and ios are not the end all be all of tablets/ smart phones mobile operating systems. They both benefit from mass publicity and appeal and have carved such a market share that the loyal followers ignore their obvious faults, and consume anything they shell out regardless if it is inferior or untrue
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cnet articles are a piece of ****
obviously apple paid douchebags
i read enough ******ry from them each day

"But anything that has iTunes DRM on it, won't transfer to an Android device. Also, all the apps you've bought and downloaded onto your iPod Touch will not transfer to a new Android smartphone. And the iBooks that you've already downloaded for the iPod Touch also won't work on an Android phone. So for these reasons, I'd say you should just buy an iPhone to preserve the investment you've already made in the Apple iOS ecosystem."
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What about those of us who were smart enough to not invest in a proprietary DRM based format. My Android apps will work on many phones, tablets, and desktops with Bluestacks or an x86 build of Android.
For music I prefer a universal DRM free format like MP3. I also will never put iTunes on my computer. I don't need some big bloated program to sync my music and apps. I can browse and install new apps from the market all through my browser. I can sync music with my android devices by plugging them into the USB port and running a simple batch file I created that uses xcopy to sync folders.
For ebooks I would rather buy in a format that will work on more devices. Even though its DRM, Amazon's Kindle Books seem to be the best option at this point, since you can read them on many more devices.

spunker88 said:
What about those of us who were smart enough to not invest in a proprietary DRM based format. My Android apps will work on many phones, tablets, and desktops with Bluestacks or an x86 build of Android.
For music I prefer a universal DRM free format like MP3. I also will never put iTunes on my computer. I don't need some big bloated program to sync my music and apps. I can browse and install new apps from the market all through my browser. I can sync music with my android devices by plugging them into the USB port and running a simple batch file I created that uses xcopy to sync folders.
For ebooks I would rather buy in a format that will work on more devices. Even though its DRM, Amazon's Kindle Books seem to be the best option at this point, since you can read them on many more devices.
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I almost totally agree with everything you said there. However a couple of points.
1/ EPUB is the industry standard, it's much more widespread and books are usually cheaper than Amazons locked in "itunes-like" ebook store. Google Books and Kobo have 3m EPUB titles, Amazon have 750k
2/ MP3 is great, it's universal, but it's also now very old, rubbish sounding and rubbish compression rates. M4A (AAC) is ISO ratified has almost as good support as MP3 these days, and is much more efficient at compressing, which means you can have either smaller files or better sounding files. I re-ripped my entire music collection to AAC/M4A and havn't looked back, it sounds much better than MP3 and the collection is still 20% smaller in disk space, it's also more suited to streaming.

domnic619 said:
cnet articles are a piece of ****
obviously apple paid douchebags
i read enough ******ry from them each day
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Yeah but you could use an education in the use of non gender and sexual orientation prejudice based language m8.
I'll just assume your young, rather than ......................

But Honeycomb tablets with Tegra2 are not really that great though, I'm happy I didn't have to get a tablet last year, because I don't like Apple and I don't like Tegra2/Honeycomb.
But it looks much better now, a 2012 tablet with ICS and with Tegra 3 or better SOC that can play my actual media files (720p/1080p MKV) is something I'd actually want to buy.
And my other main purpose with a tablet is web browsing, and this is also something that sucks with Honeycomb compared to iPad or my Galaxy S2 which both have butter smooth browsers.
This is also much better with ICS luckily

CNET has its points on the short commings of android but they have given apple a complete pass on the turds they have been droping.
Since the 3g there has not been any true innovations to the device. There were 2 major software updates, one added a poor attempt at multitasking and the other copied notifications from android/windows. Who in their right mind would update from a 4 to a 4s? And why would anyone need an iPad 2 if they own an iPad? The ecosystem is self contained which is ok for some but people are shelling out hundreds every year to buy the same exact device.
I had a 3g and loved it. When the 4 came out I was like what the f is this? Why would I lock in for another 2 years for the same exact phone? On the other side in the same time frame android has gone from froyo to gingerbread, introduced honeycomb and then blended ics together. each being a major change from the last. Yes there has been bugs but that is part of the pain of actually developing new software. Now add all the variations sense, blur, touch wiz. etc and the rapid updates to these and you have unique user experiences. Google gets criticized for creativity, while apple gets rewarded for playing it safe
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I've used both Android and iOS extensively and I can't recommend an Android phone and especially tablet(simply awful) to anyone besides an irrational Apple hater(just to watch them waste hours flashing custom roms in hope of making it not suck so bad). Only carriers and vendors, not users benefit from Android's openness, so at the end of the day it's dimly a buzzword that Google uses to target the nerd market. While iOS I'd far far from perfect it's still much more usable than Android. An average user doesn't give a hoot about rooting,live wallpapers or replacement launchers they just want something that works out of the box. Just because a tiny portion of the market(mostly people who visit this site) doesn't mind having to void the warranty in order to make their phone or tablet somewhat usable doesn't mean that an average consumer will be willing to jump through these hoops.
Furthermore, Android tablets are such trash(being kind here) compared to the iPad that no sane individual will buy them at the same price range. If someone doesn't want an iPad then they should just wait for W8 tablets, but Android should be avoided like plague.

alex2792 said:
I've used both Android and iOS extensively and I can't recommend an Android phone and especially tablet(simply awful) to anyone besides an irrational Apple hater(just to watch them waste hours flashing custom roms in hope of making it not suck so bad). Only carriers and vendors, not users benefit from Android's openness, so at the end of the day it's dimly a buzzword that Google uses to target the nerd market. While iOS I'd far far from perfect it's still much more usable than Android. An average user doesn't give a hoot about rooting,live wallpapers or replacement launchers they just want something that works out of the box. Just because a tiny portion of the market(mostly people who visit this site) doesn't mind having to void the warranty in order to make their phone or tablet somewhat usable doesn't mean that an average consumer will be willing to jump through these hoops.
Furthermore, Android tablets are such trash(being kind here) compared to the iPad that no sane individual will buy them at the same price range. If someone doesn't want an iPad then they should just wait for W8 tablets, but Android should be avoided like plague.
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With the greatest respect I have to ask where you get such dumb ideas from as all your posts at xda are so vehemently anti android yet absolutely factually incorrect.
Explain what it is that makes android only barely usable if rooted. My dad and my girlfriend are your average non techy people and both have unrooted android devices that they love and both customised them a lot, and neither have had trouble with their systems so to say its unusable etc with no evidence is rubbish.
So with respect to your post perhaps you could explain why people must hate apple if they use android, why you think android sucks (reasons, not vague rhetoric) and why in a number of threads you keep saying you have to root android to make it usable when its ios that has to have warranty voided to do much with it.
I genuinely wonder sometimes if your not another poster who hates android and posting under a second account. I doubt you are but at least give reasons not vague nonsense please.
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CNET has become Apple's biggest supporter and it's become evident in the past year or so of articles ripping Android but praising Apple.
I used to go to CNET for news, now I only go to read the comments because they're entertaining.

alex2792 said:
I've used both Android and iOS extensively and I can't recommend an Android phone and especially tablet(simply awful) to anyone besides an irrational Apple hater(just to watch them waste hours flashing custom roms in hope of making it not suck so bad). Only carriers and vendors, not users benefit from Android's openness, so at the end of the day it's dimly a buzzword that Google uses to target the nerd market. While iOS I'd far far from perfect it's still much more usable than Android. An average user doesn't give a hoot about rooting,live wallpapers or replacement launchers they just want something that works out of the box. Just because a tiny portion of the market(mostly people who visit this site) doesn't mind having to void the warranty in order to make their phone or tablet somewhat usable doesn't mean that an average consumer will be willing to jump through these hoops.
Furthermore, Android tablets are such trash(being kind here) compared to the iPad that no sane individual will buy them at the same price range. If someone doesn't want an iPad then they should just wait for W8 tablets, but Android should be avoided like plague.
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Rubbish. Have used both extensively as well for years
Your missing the point of roming and tweaking. It is not because you have to, it is because you enjoy to.
I have both iPad and android tablet. I don't use the ipad
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alex2792 said:
I've used both Android and iOS extensively and I can't recommend an Android phone and especially tablet(simply awful) to anyone besides an irrational Apple hater(just to watch them waste hours flashing custom roms in hope of making it not suck so bad). Only carriers and vendors, not users benefit from Android's openness, so at the end of the day it's dimly a buzzword that Google uses to target the nerd market. While iOS I'd far far from perfect it's still much more usable than Android. An average user doesn't give a hoot about rooting,live wallpapers or replacement launchers they just want something that works out of the box. Just because a tiny portion of the market(mostly people who visit this site) doesn't mind having to void the warranty in order to make their phone or tablet somewhat usable doesn't mean that an average consumer will be willing to jump through these hoops.
Furthermore, Android tablets are such trash(being kind here) compared to the iPad that no sane individual will buy them at the same price range. If someone doesn't want an iPad then they should just wait for W8 tablets, but Android should be avoided like plague.
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Obvious troll is obvious. The end user benefits from Android's openness by being able to build and distribute custom ROMs without copyright infringement. Many of us thoroughly enjoy flashing ROMs, rooting, etc. We aren't doing it only to make the device usable.

The Transformer Prime is my first Android device... it crashes a half dozen times a day. I think it is a nice piece of kit, with buggy software. Im not trading it for an IPad, but Im not satisfied as I feel I should be after dropping 650 for this thing. IDK who you blame, running ICS, latest patches hasn't fixed the random reboots, wacko video artifacts after using it a few minutes, slow browsing, buggy touchscreen keyboards, apps that freeze doing the most basic operations... is it the apps, the hardware, or android?!?! I let my kid play some random apps and I get an email that I just spent $20 for some BS in game credits that don't even require a password to steal money from your account!!!! The developer doesnt respond and there's no recourse through the android marketplace...
THE WHOLE MESS IS HALF BAKED. Instead of blaming cnet for telling the truth how about you fix the problems!?!?!
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PS He's also right about the quality of the apps. I find much higher quality audio and video editing apps on my IPhone, where there seems to be nothing comparable for Android... maybe someone can point me to an App that will let me splice, add transitions, voice overs, audio, titles etc for videos I create like I can using Reel Director on IOS... show me some decent tracking, midi over wifi, synths for Android.... if they exist, prey tell.

Watching Peter pan (for free, love ice stream) with my kids on my tv using my unusable semi functioning crap android tablet. Last week I watched the UFC pay per view using this thing the call flash.
For video editing try google video editor. Have not used it much as it is made for 10" tabs and mine is 7" so it is not scaled correctly. Appears to have some of the features you want
Honeycomb version but may work on ics
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DigitalSkyline said:
The Transformer Prime is my first Android device... it crashes a half dozen times a day. I think it is a nice piece of kit, with buggy software. Im not trading it for an IPad, but Im not satisfied as I feel I should be after dropping 650 for this thing. IDK who you blame, running ICS, latest patches hasn't fixed the random reboots, wacko video artifacts after using it a few minutes, slow browsing, buggy touchscreen keyboards, apps that freeze doing the most basic operations... is it the apps, the hardware, or android?!?! I let my kid play some random apps and I get an email that I just spent $20 for some BS in game credits that don't even require a password to steal money from your account!!!! The developer doesnt respond and there's no recourse through the android marketplace...
THE WHOLE MESS IS HALF BAKED. Instead of blaming cnet for telling the truth how about you fix the problems!?!?!
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PS He's also right about the quality of the apps. I find much higher quality audio and video editing apps on my IPhone, where there seems to be nothing comparable for Android... maybe someone can point me to an App that will let me splice, add transitions, voice overs, audio, titles etc for videos I create like I can using Reel Director on IOS... show me some decent tracking, midi over wifi, synths for Android.... if they exist, prey tell.
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Welcome to the land of Android, prepare for a bumpy ride. I've had similar experiences with both Xoom(possibly the worst piece of consumer electronics I ever used) and Galaxy Tab(plastic iPad knockoff with the same crappy software). Browsing on both tablets was terrible, the browser froze, and oftentimes just randomly closed with no way of recovering open tabs. They were both useless as far as media playback since apparently Tegra 2 doesn't support high profile HD video, which makes me question the sanity of the idiot Google engineer who decided to make it the reference platform for HC. At the end of the day I've come to realize that even though it doesn't have all of the "features" of Android tablets the iPad is so far superior to the Google sanctioned junk that it's not even a fair comparison.

mcord11758 said:
Watching Peter pan (for free, love ice stream) with my kids on my tv using my unusable semi functioning crap android tablet. Last week I watched the UFC pay per view using this thing the call flash.
For video editing try google video editor. Have not used it much as it is made for 10" tabs and mine is 7" so it is not scaled correctly. Appears to have some of the features you want
Honeycomb version but may work on ics
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Yeah I've tried Google Video Editor... its crap... couldn't import videos or photos to edit, so I didn't even get past the first hurdle. Maybe they'll get it past the beta stage someday, but for now its not very good.

HDMI 'IN' ?

I bought a GoogleTV box from BestBuy some time ago and soon returned it as it was severely crippled in comparison to the MK808 I ultimately ended up with. After I worked on the Antenna, I am relatively happy with my decision, for the cost.. However: The Google TV had the coolest feature, and I want something similar.
If anyone knows of an Android STICK with the 'HDMI INPUT' feature, like the feature which allowed the GoogleTV to overlay a the Android screen over my cable box feed. I'd sure appreciate a heads up.

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I bought a GoogleTV box from BestBuy some time ago and soon returned it as it was severely crippled in comparison to the MK808 I ultimately ended up with. After I worked on the Antenna, I am relatively happy with my decision, for the cost.. However: The Google TV had the coolest feature, and I want something similar.
If anyone knows of an Android STICK with the 'HDMI INPUT' feature, like the feature which allowed the GoogleTV to overlay a the Android screen over my cable box feed. I'd sure appreciate a heads up.
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Never heard of that before. What would be the point of this though?
Not sure about the Google TV box specs but maybe it just needed a custom rom to make it more friendly.
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player911 said:
Never heard of that before. What would be the point of this though?
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It was cool.. you can do a picture in picture kinda thing.. where the Android OS is a transparent overlay. And, this allowed you to keep the android OS in the background aswell, so you would be notified of incomming email and messages and stuff while watching your other hdmi source.

It interacted with the TV guide and search features......I gave my Revue away, its just had way to many limits....

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I bought a GoogleTV box from BestBuy some time ago and soon returned it as it was severely crippled in comparison to the MK808 I ultimately ended up with. After I worked on the Antenna, I am relatively happy with my decision, for the cost.. However: The Google TV had the coolest feature, and I want something similar.
If anyone knows of an Android STICK with the 'HDMI INPUT' feature, like the feature which allowed the GoogleTV to overlay a the Android screen over my cable box feed. I'd sure appreciate a heads up.
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That would be extremely valuable to me. The more i looked into it the more it looks like it is not currently possible. To do it android drivers would have to be built for any additional hardware needed then you would need to make that work with an existing media play or develop your own.

[Rant] Chromecast, Nexus Q, GoogleTV

I would like to get a discussion going. See what others think, maybe theres some good I'm not seeing, or maybe more bad.
I like what Google does and I like their products. But they have been P***ing me off here lately with two of their products. The first one is the Nexus Q, not because of the price, but it's functionality, and when they released it... The other is the Chromecast. My reasons, I'm a GoogleTV owner. I've had my Sony Blu-ray GoogleTV since bate. Got it about 3 to 4 months after GoogleTV came out. Before the Nexus Q, GoogleTV had it's fair share of disappointments.No Hulu, which ain't the biggest deal breaker, with all the other content it does have. The Logitech being another one, then it taking so long for GoogleTV to get updated to Honeycomb. The Honeycomb update was about 9 months before Google I/O 2012, and the Nexus Q unveiling. Going into that year, at CES we seen a new batch of GoogleTV devices. It seemed like thing would start to look up for the platform. I wasn't expecting another version update at that years I/O, but maybe some more good news. Instead, we got the Nexus Q. I took it as a smack in the face. No real if any news about GoogleTV that I can remember at that years I/O. I hated it, I felt they should have gave us a Nexus GoogleTV with the Nexus Q features. Nonetheless, the Nexus Q didn't pan out. At this years CES we seen some more GoogleTV devices, and I felt at this years Google I/O they really need to do something with this platform. A new version update which they did, and I was hoping for a Nexus GooglTV/ Q hybrid which they didn't. I feel they should release a Nexus GoogleTV, I think it will help the platform. I'm glad about the update coming to GoogleTV, but can't help to think Google wasn't overly excited about the update. It seemed like they just said here, here's your stupid update. And now, they release another media device, that seems to feel like another smack in the face. And it's running a striped down version of GoogleTV source " http://blog.gtvhacker.com/ " There's rumors of another Media box coming from Google, is it a GoogleTV, or another smack in the face? Anyways the kicker, is both these devices were limited compared to GoogleTV. GoogleTV has been the redheaded stepchild of Google. It has it's potential I don't know why Google is doing so little with it. Let me know what you guys think. Do you think Chromecast will become more like GoogleTV. Do you think will see more and better things for the OG GoogleTV?

I don't really think Chromecast is headed to be an alternative or replace GoogleTV. I don't have any of them myself, but from what I've read about them, Chromecast seems like a replacement for an HDMI cable, just an easier way to transfer video and audio to your TV. Also, it makes it possible to play video from multiple devices like a tablet or computer pretty easily. The GoogleTV is a complete system that has everything contained to be able to get internet videos and movies to play on your TV, whereas Chromecast is merely a means to transfer the videos, kinda like DLNA.

It's not that I think their going to replace GoogleTV. It's more about the lack of support their giving the platform. Their entering basically the same market as the GoogleTV, with new products while ignoring another. Maybe after this update to JB I'll be more at ease. I would still like to see some hardware from Google tho...
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