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[APP] Slingplayer for Android NOW AVAILABLE in the Market

Just ran across this, has anyone heard anything? I haven't seen it on any other site and really not familiar with this one.
http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2010-06/slingplayer-for-android-launches-tonight/
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Looks like it will actually be released tomorrow, this link also has the press release.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/21/slingplayer-mobile-for-android-ready-to-entertain-you-for-30-st/
Edit again: NOW AVAILABLE!

http://gizmodo.com/5569265/slingpla...eed&utm_campaign=Feed:+gizmodo/full+(Gizmodo)
It will be the highest priced app in the market, unless there is something higher than 30$..

Eclair~ said:
It will be the highest priced app in the market, unless there is something higher than 30$..
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Yeah, which is getting out of hand (at least, for me). I've had my Slingbox for several years and I've switched mobile platforms during that time. No discount and my licenses go to waste. I'm guessing I'm up to at least $100 in just Slingbox player (WinMo, iPhone, etc.).
It wouldn't bother me, since I do use the app, but I'm guessing they're about to milk me another time when they launch the iPad app. There's no sign they will opt for universal app. Second, their follow up support sucks. They're lucky they have such a useful product because their player development cycle (waaay too long), licensing scheme ("buy the hardware and never pay" except for our software) and support isn't winning a single award.
edit: OH, and another thing... their ridiculous ability to charge $30 for software that they aren't willing to state whether it will work with my Slingbox AV. I get to roll the dice and maybe one day it will go dark.

Been waiting for this app also. Besides the $30 cost there will be nothing better for live streaming from your tv. Had it for windows mobile and iphone. Watched directv all over town. This is the best $30 you can spend. Sucked when they shutdown the sling community forums and opened up the new "staff driven" support forums. Sling community was great and helped a lot of people.

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Yeah, which is getting out of hand (at least, for me). I've had my Slingbox for several years and I've switched mobile platforms during that time. No discount and my licenses go to waste. I'm guessing I'm up to at least $100 in just Slingbox player (WinMo, iPhone, etc.).
It wouldn't bother me, since I do use the app, but I'm guessing they're about to milk me another time when they launch the iPad app. There's no sign they will opt for universal app. Second, their follow up support sucks. They're lucky they have such a useful product because their player development cycle (waaay too long), licensing scheme ("buy the hardware and never pay" except for our software) and support isn't winning a single award.
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I wonder if you would be able to transfer the iphone to ipad? I am sure this won't work to transfer to android though.
http://support.slingbox.com/get/KB-1000194.html
At least its just a one time charge, not sure what the other companies (not t-mobile) charge to have the TV type services.

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I wonder if you would be able to transfer the iphone to ipad? I am sure this won't work to transfer to android though.
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I'm digging into their forum/answers site and it looks like my old, old Windows Mobile license can transfer so long as the Android player is a trial version that accepts licenses. The iPhone app is a different beast than their usual software since Apple has complete control over the distribution of the app. I guess I learned tonight that it's quite possible to transfer from WinMo to Blackberry to Symbian. Your license is only active on one install.
I'm crossing my fingers they took this into consideration.

why on earth are they charging so damn much of this thing? Really, its just a player, thats a third of what I payed for the slingbox itself. But if this same app works on google tv, I might have a purpose for this app.
"When in your mobile phone provider's area of 3G, 4G or Wi-Fi coverage and connected to a Slingbox® SOLO, PRO or PRO-HD, SlingPlayer Mobile makes it simple to watch and control your living room television at any time from any location."
no dice on my slingbox tuner then i guess

What IS slingplayer?

Blueman101 said:
why on earth are they charging so damn much of this thing? Really, its just a player, thats a third of what I payed for the slingbox itself. But if this same app works on google tv, I might have a purpose for this app.
"When in your mobile phone provider's area of 3G, 4G or Wi-Fi coverage and connected to a Slingbox® SOLO, PRO or PRO-HD, SlingPlayer Mobile makes it simple to watch and control your living room television at any time from any location."
no dice on my slingbox tuner then i guess
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Working on my Slingbox AV but it says "some streams will not work". No clue why "some" wouldn't and others would.

jdscully said:
Working on my Slingbox AV but it says "some streams will not work". No clue why "some" wouldn't and others would.
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more then likely the older models work perfectly well, but they can sell the solo and pro's for a lot more then a tuner or an AV. It probably all about money. Their site says "tuner and AV is not supported. It is highly recommended to get the newer slingboxs" This is what it said for the iphone moblie app.

hmmm....i guess its about time to finally purchase a slingbox.

not showing up in the market for me -running frf50
edit; now it is using THIS

I have 3 slingboxes at work, an original, pro (i think next model after the original) and a new HD one. Only the HD one works. The iphone version supports all three. The prices on these players is wacked. I don't mind paying but jeez. Buy a $30 app just to find out I need to buy like $600 worth of new boxes. Good looking out Google with the 24 hour refund period.

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What IS slingplayer?
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Google it?

I also think that having to buy the app at full price if you already are a slingbox owner is ridiculous!!! At least give current owners a discount or something!! And it's not like the app is cheap, $30 is type expensive just for the app...no??
Can someone please post the Slingbox.APK if it's ok/allowed or send it to me via PM? so we can see if our current licenses would work??? I'd greatly appreciate it as I'm many others would as well!!!

Best purchase since the N1

still cant see it here....

Do I NEED a sling box for this to work?

G1-evolve said:
Do I NEED a sling box for this to work?
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yes you do

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yes you do
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prices for a sling box online are ridiculous..

Finally! Netflix IS finally coming to Android

We knew this would be phone specific due to Netflix wanting to ensure content restrictions were in place. The good news, it will be more chip dependent and phones with Snapdragon processors will be first.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-14/qualcomm-some-android-devices-to-get-netflix.html

OMG. That would be awesome. Go Qualcomm!

CAN'T WAIT!

Well, that's not really saying much without even a hint of a release date.

I read a article were it said newer Qualcomm chips were going to get netflix . I wonder if the evo would qualify .
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I can't wait till we get netflix and hulu
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Netflix on my phone would be great. Give me something to do at work..other than actually work

I think an OS would have to have at least some attempt at security measures in place before that would happen...

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I read a article were it said newer Qualcomm chips were going to get netflix . I wonder if the evo would qualify .
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I'm pretty sure the evo would qualify with it A8 type but too bad htc does not use the newer A9 that would make video playback as good as the iPhone 4 with it's high res screen and does this mean you will need 4g to stream the videos.

Well now unfortunately I just read at Engadget that only the newest Snapdragon chips, not even shipping in any phones yet, would have the capability for Netflix.
Poo Poo on Netflix, Google, and Qualcomm. As usual, the only care about selling NEW phones and could give a crap about anything already shipped.

thebitjockey said:
Well now unfortunately I just read at Engadget that only the newest Snapdragon chips, not even shipping in any phones yet, would have the capability for Netflix.
Poo Poo on Netflix, Google, and Qualcomm. As usual, the only care about selling NEW phones and could give a crap about anything already shipped.
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Welcome to android.

for some reason DRM doesn't bother me when its coming from netflix. Probably because 7.99 a month for streaming is totally reasonable whereas $1-3 per episode of downloadable content is absolutely ridiculous.

Netflix is awesome but it doesnt work on my country.

I would never watch netflix on my phone. Ever.
Ever.

I just listened on Cnet podcast that only next gen snapdragon chips will work, and they aren't shipping until early 2012!!! They also said that it seemed fishy since the iPhone already has it and the chip in the iPhone is not unusual. This is BS, Netflix is drinking the Apple Juice.
BOYCOTT NETFLIX ANDROID USERS!!

Even if Netflix was available, I doubt my phone would even have the horsepower to run it (moto droid 1, unrooted), so I guess they are just trying to make sure it is a positive experience for those users. That, or they are trying to avoid the fragmentation issue, or only available in gingerbread or later...
I would rather wait until I upgrade my phone to make sure the app works as good as possible.

I have playon.tv on my desktop to stream stuff to my roku but they came out with an android app in the market and it allows you to watch netflix and hulu on your android device, assuming you let the desktop app run.
From what i understand, the android app goes to your actual pc where it gets the videos and converts it to an android compatible stream. I tried it and it worked fine. Not a free app but you can try the trial.

djdanska said:
I have playon.tv on my desktop to stream stuff to my roku but they came out with an android app in the market and it allows you to watch netflix and hulu on your android device, assuming you let the desktop app run.
From what i understand, the android app goes to your actual pc where it gets the videos and converts it to an android compatible stream. I tried it and it worked fine. Not a free app but you can try the trial.
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Interestng I'll give a try

cant wait for this thing

Good news, hopefully, many will get some love.
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No NETFLIX for Thunderbolt?

I just saw a video on Engadget stating that The netflix app need PRE-INSTALLED keys on a snapdragon chip. And if thee keys arent installed by OEM you cant play netflix on the phone.
Way to go Android!!
I guess iphone has had the keys for a year now! Wow Steve Jobs has these companys by the balls!
Fragmentation sux!!! Now im second guessing getting the thunderbolt.

The TB isn't even out yet so don't make assumptions, besides I'm sure it still possible in the long run
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Check the video on engadget. Also the app is months away. So it 100% the keys arent installed. The guy in the video clearly states that the HTC EVO cant do Netflix!
HUGE BUMMER!!! Windows Phone 7 has netflix and with a 00001% user base but android doesnt???
Come on man!!

BigBonkers said:
Check the video on engadget. Also the app is months away. So it 100% the keys arent installed. The guy in the video clearly states that the HTC EVO cant do Netflix!
HUGE BUMMER!!! Windows Phone 7 has netflix and with a 00001% user base but android doesnt???
Come on man!!
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The app not being out yet has nothing to do with the keys being installed or not. Qualcom has stated that there chips will support Netflix, not sure where you are getting that the keys will "100% not be installed".
Also the chip in the EVO is completely different from the one in the TB. The TB has the 2nd Gen SnapDragon. So the EVO not being able to do Netflix has nothing to do with the TB being able to do it or not.

The problem with Android is it may be less secure, you know with people hacking apps and flash, help we have hulu for free on Android because of it so maybe netflix is a bit weary
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I remember a quote saying that qualcomm chips would be the first to see Netflix on android. I imagine it's possible that they've been installing the required keys on the latest processors, but that kind of forward-thinking benevolence doesn't seem very realistic, unfortunately.
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Its just heart breaking man. I really dont give a snot about netflix but its the point....i want the option. WP7 doesnt deserve it!!!!

Chopstick2U said:
I remember a quote saying that qualcomm chips would be the first to see Netflix on android. I imagine it's possible that they've been installing the required keys on the latest processors, but that kind of forward-thinking benevolence doesn't seem very realistic, unfortunately.
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I would think though that they have been talking about this since it was in development, this has probably been in development for a year or two at least. I don't think Netfix is going to release an app for android without the phones to support it. That would be horrible for business, you would want the most amount of people possible to be able to use your product.

Its the fragmentation and Androids unwillingness to protect The DEV's products with DRM and such

What is the big issue with hulu and netflix? Surely there are alternate places to get your TV show fix since we have flash enabled, right?

i am on the iphone 4 but looking to get the thunderbolt or bionic and this is one of the reasons i dont want to switch yet i know its a small reason but i'd rather love the phone than like it

According to the spec sheet, I picked up today from Verizon, VOD will include Blockbuster.

Netflix only requires DRM security on the chipset which the TB has. However, I dont think Froyo supports DRM as the DRM SDK/API is only available on Gingerbread and Honeycomb. I dont know if there's a software work-around for this though. I'd expect the TB to have Gingerbread by summer and Netflix is still a few months out from release anyhow... plenty of time...

Actually i think netflix streams a video........blockbuster app downloads it then plays it. I had it on my droid x....you pay per flick..... its not a monthly thing.... Complete garbage and the wait was horrible.

CHOPES: That's not the issue. Absolutely there are other places which are...dubious at best. The issue is that Android (meaning Google) doesn't want to stand up to the MPAA who are putting pressure on Netflix to make sure the environment is locked down against all us "thieves" out there. ;-)
It's the same attitude that linux users, myself included, have to battle all the time. Just because we choose to use an OS that's not there's and some people have busted their copy protection that means all of us will do that.
I'd blame delays in the software development as much as on the handset development. I would sure hope that ANY 4G phone would be capable of streaming Netflix eventually even if they currently aren't.
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I would agree that once the software is sorted out the TB oughta be able to do it. this article http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/16/lg-revolution-dumps-tegra-2-chooses-1ghz-snapdragon-msm8655-ins/ says that lg used the Revolution as their phone to demo Netflix, AND it is using the exact same Snapdragon (MSM8655) that's in the Thunderbolt, so it seems to me that the Thunderbolt should have the DRM stuff in the chipset too .

I can't believ e people are *****ing about playing movies on a phone lmfao

tazzpatriot said:
I can't believ e people are *****ing about playing movies on a phone lmfao
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1) This isn't just a phone, "it's your phone after your next phone" -- couldnt resist, sorry....
2) Some people come in here and laugh at people who want to play games on their "phone" and say that's what a PSP or DS is for....
Really, it isn't just a "phone" or everyone here, including you, would own a standard flip phone. We buy and pay for these phones to get the MOST that we can out of them. We want a do-it-all phone... or at least the best that current tech can provide.
10 years ago, people were paying $200+ for portable 4-5" TV players.
With all your posts, I cant believe you'd come crashing into this thread so harsh-like.
edit: ALSO you're a rom builder, the elite of users who want the most of their phone... that makes your harsh statement that must more odd and confusing.

kenyu73 said:
1) This isn't just a phone, "it's your phone after your next phone" -- couldnt resist, sorry....
2) Some people come in here and laugh at people who want to play games on their "phone" and say that's what a PSP or DS is for....
Really, it isn't just a "phone" or everyone here, including you, would own a standard flip phone. We buy and pay for these phones to get the MOST that we can out of them. We want a do-it-all phone... or at least the best that current tech can provide.
10 years ago, people were paying $200+ for portable 4-5" TV players.
With all your posts, I cant believe you'd come crashing into this thread so harsh-like.
edit: ALSO you're a rom builder, the elite of users who want the most of their phone... that makes your harsh statement that must more odd and confusing.
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Dude I was only kidding relax.. just cuz I don't use it for that I understand people do geez.. was just joking
fueled by Red Sox Nation

tazzpatriot said:
Dude I was only kidding relax.. just cuz I don't use it for that I understand people do geez.. was just joking
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My bad... Boston will do that.

Ultimate Android bile spewing "news"?

I really don't think I have ever reach such total and utter bull**** on the Internet ever. This "writer" is supposedly a professional CNET writer... Unbelievable...
This writer seems to be spewing bile at an uncontrollable rate, it's likely to flood the neighborhood. I'm guessing Apple pay her wages as well as CNET.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-57374842-266/buying-a-tablet-on-a-budget-android-or-ipad/?tag=mncol
" But with a weak supply of apps to choose from and some buggy software, are these iPad knockoffs worth it?"
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"I know you said you don't want to buy an iPad. But you may want to reconsider. And the reason I say that is even though the iPad 2 doesn't meet the same specs as some of these other tablets, it has a much broader set of apps available"
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" I've also found the Android software to be very buggy with the apps that are available"
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"Part of the problem with many Android tablets today is that the majority of them still run an older version of Android software called Honeycomb. This version of Android was specifically developed for tablets, and it's notoriously buggy. "
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And my favorite: Defending how fantastic a locked-in ecosystem is...
"But anything that has iTunes DRM on it, won't transfer to an Android device. Also, all the apps you've bought and downloaded onto your iPod Touch will not transfer to a new Android smartphone. And the iBooks that you've already downloaded for the iPod Touch also won't work on an Android phone. So for these reasons, I'd say you should just buy an iPhone to preserve the investment you've already made in the Apple iOS ecosystem."
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Is this typical of American journalism? If so, then it explains alot about the world's opinion of America.

Oh god, the comment section is gold.
Some guy mentioned the Sony Tablet S
That's Miss Reardon to you sausage smuggler
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How much did Apple pay you for this hatchet job on Android, Ms Reardon?
Android tablets are no more "iPad knockoffs" than Ford vehicles are Mercedes knockoffs. They are different products for different audiences.
Android is for people who want to get things done using a tablet. The alleged "weak supply" of apps hasn't stopped me from finding an apps (usually 20 or 30 of them) to do anything I want to do on my tablet. Perhaps that's because I can spell, know English, and have a certain amount of critical decision-making ability (as witnessed by my ownership of a $27 million company).
Apple products are for people with lots of money, very little intelligence, and a "need" for 500 "different" fart apps
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Derpy answer:
Can you use an android tablet for music production?
Nope!
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Part of a comment:
I would have recommended you to talk about the 200 Gazillions versions of Android OS (one per manufacture almost) all of them carrying names as ridiculous as the names on the Starbuck menu " Your tablet: with Android OS gran caffe macchiado Ice cream sandwich" or the "Honeycomb 2.2 served Frappe with 2 splenda"?
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wat
Had a Xoom. ya it had flash, sorta. caused more problems and restarts then it was worth. Got tired of the problems, and traded it for a first gen ipad, with half the ram, half the storage and half as many processors. No crashes, surfs faster, and has fewer problems with web-sites, even though it doesn't have flash. Everything about it's UI is smoother, and easier to understand. I guess Android works ok, but not sure that hating Apple is a good enough reason to find Android better.
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Got tired of the problems, and traded it for a first gen ipad, with half the ram, half the storage and half as many processors. No crashes
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half as many processors
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Let the apple fan boy have his "day"

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Let the apple fan boy have his "day"
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No offence m8 but i think your missing the point. Its fine for any 'private individual' to pimp the hell out of anything they like for what ever spurious personal reasons they have.
however ........ Ms Reardon is supposed to be a professional journalist. One of the central tenets of professional journalism (and one of the prime journalistic criticisms of online citizen journalism and blogging) is strict factual, impartiality especially on issues where commercial advantage/disadvantage may be derived from said comments.
At least (despite the phone hacking scandal) thats what journalism generally means in the UK at any rate ......... maybe America has a different concept of impartiality ........ judging from Fox news this is definitely the case.
CNET is a POS but that woman is still a damned disgrace, she's doing a massive disservice to anyone unlucky enough to find her blog whilst looking for impartial advice.
A Twitter campaign could maybe help.

Fox news is not news, just like ipads/iphone and ios are not the end all be all of tablets/ smart phones mobile operating systems. They both benefit from mass publicity and appeal and have carved such a market share that the loyal followers ignore their obvious faults, and consume anything they shell out regardless if it is inferior or untrue
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cnet articles are a piece of ****
obviously apple paid douchebags
i read enough ******ry from them each day

"But anything that has iTunes DRM on it, won't transfer to an Android device. Also, all the apps you've bought and downloaded onto your iPod Touch will not transfer to a new Android smartphone. And the iBooks that you've already downloaded for the iPod Touch also won't work on an Android phone. So for these reasons, I'd say you should just buy an iPhone to preserve the investment you've already made in the Apple iOS ecosystem."
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What about those of us who were smart enough to not invest in a proprietary DRM based format. My Android apps will work on many phones, tablets, and desktops with Bluestacks or an x86 build of Android.
For music I prefer a universal DRM free format like MP3. I also will never put iTunes on my computer. I don't need some big bloated program to sync my music and apps. I can browse and install new apps from the market all through my browser. I can sync music with my android devices by plugging them into the USB port and running a simple batch file I created that uses xcopy to sync folders.
For ebooks I would rather buy in a format that will work on more devices. Even though its DRM, Amazon's Kindle Books seem to be the best option at this point, since you can read them on many more devices.

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What about those of us who were smart enough to not invest in a proprietary DRM based format. My Android apps will work on many phones, tablets, and desktops with Bluestacks or an x86 build of Android.
For music I prefer a universal DRM free format like MP3. I also will never put iTunes on my computer. I don't need some big bloated program to sync my music and apps. I can browse and install new apps from the market all through my browser. I can sync music with my android devices by plugging them into the USB port and running a simple batch file I created that uses xcopy to sync folders.
For ebooks I would rather buy in a format that will work on more devices. Even though its DRM, Amazon's Kindle Books seem to be the best option at this point, since you can read them on many more devices.
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I almost totally agree with everything you said there. However a couple of points.
1/ EPUB is the industry standard, it's much more widespread and books are usually cheaper than Amazons locked in "itunes-like" ebook store. Google Books and Kobo have 3m EPUB titles, Amazon have 750k
2/ MP3 is great, it's universal, but it's also now very old, rubbish sounding and rubbish compression rates. M4A (AAC) is ISO ratified has almost as good support as MP3 these days, and is much more efficient at compressing, which means you can have either smaller files or better sounding files. I re-ripped my entire music collection to AAC/M4A and havn't looked back, it sounds much better than MP3 and the collection is still 20% smaller in disk space, it's also more suited to streaming.

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cnet articles are a piece of ****
obviously apple paid douchebags
i read enough ******ry from them each day
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Yeah but you could use an education in the use of non gender and sexual orientation prejudice based language m8.
I'll just assume your young, rather than ......................

But Honeycomb tablets with Tegra2 are not really that great though, I'm happy I didn't have to get a tablet last year, because I don't like Apple and I don't like Tegra2/Honeycomb.
But it looks much better now, a 2012 tablet with ICS and with Tegra 3 or better SOC that can play my actual media files (720p/1080p MKV) is something I'd actually want to buy.
And my other main purpose with a tablet is web browsing, and this is also something that sucks with Honeycomb compared to iPad or my Galaxy S2 which both have butter smooth browsers.
This is also much better with ICS luckily

CNET has its points on the short commings of android but they have given apple a complete pass on the turds they have been droping.
Since the 3g there has not been any true innovations to the device. There were 2 major software updates, one added a poor attempt at multitasking and the other copied notifications from android/windows. Who in their right mind would update from a 4 to a 4s? And why would anyone need an iPad 2 if they own an iPad? The ecosystem is self contained which is ok for some but people are shelling out hundreds every year to buy the same exact device.
I had a 3g and loved it. When the 4 came out I was like what the f is this? Why would I lock in for another 2 years for the same exact phone? On the other side in the same time frame android has gone from froyo to gingerbread, introduced honeycomb and then blended ics together. each being a major change from the last. Yes there has been bugs but that is part of the pain of actually developing new software. Now add all the variations sense, blur, touch wiz. etc and the rapid updates to these and you have unique user experiences. Google gets criticized for creativity, while apple gets rewarded for playing it safe
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I've used both Android and iOS extensively and I can't recommend an Android phone and especially tablet(simply awful) to anyone besides an irrational Apple hater(just to watch them waste hours flashing custom roms in hope of making it not suck so bad). Only carriers and vendors, not users benefit from Android's openness, so at the end of the day it's dimly a buzzword that Google uses to target the nerd market. While iOS I'd far far from perfect it's still much more usable than Android. An average user doesn't give a hoot about rooting,live wallpapers or replacement launchers they just want something that works out of the box. Just because a tiny portion of the market(mostly people who visit this site) doesn't mind having to void the warranty in order to make their phone or tablet somewhat usable doesn't mean that an average consumer will be willing to jump through these hoops.
Furthermore, Android tablets are such trash(being kind here) compared to the iPad that no sane individual will buy them at the same price range. If someone doesn't want an iPad then they should just wait for W8 tablets, but Android should be avoided like plague.

alex2792 said:
I've used both Android and iOS extensively and I can't recommend an Android phone and especially tablet(simply awful) to anyone besides an irrational Apple hater(just to watch them waste hours flashing custom roms in hope of making it not suck so bad). Only carriers and vendors, not users benefit from Android's openness, so at the end of the day it's dimly a buzzword that Google uses to target the nerd market. While iOS I'd far far from perfect it's still much more usable than Android. An average user doesn't give a hoot about rooting,live wallpapers or replacement launchers they just want something that works out of the box. Just because a tiny portion of the market(mostly people who visit this site) doesn't mind having to void the warranty in order to make their phone or tablet somewhat usable doesn't mean that an average consumer will be willing to jump through these hoops.
Furthermore, Android tablets are such trash(being kind here) compared to the iPad that no sane individual will buy them at the same price range. If someone doesn't want an iPad then they should just wait for W8 tablets, but Android should be avoided like plague.
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With the greatest respect I have to ask where you get such dumb ideas from as all your posts at xda are so vehemently anti android yet absolutely factually incorrect.
Explain what it is that makes android only barely usable if rooted. My dad and my girlfriend are your average non techy people and both have unrooted android devices that they love and both customised them a lot, and neither have had trouble with their systems so to say its unusable etc with no evidence is rubbish.
So with respect to your post perhaps you could explain why people must hate apple if they use android, why you think android sucks (reasons, not vague rhetoric) and why in a number of threads you keep saying you have to root android to make it usable when its ios that has to have warranty voided to do much with it.
I genuinely wonder sometimes if your not another poster who hates android and posting under a second account. I doubt you are but at least give reasons not vague nonsense please.
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CNET has become Apple's biggest supporter and it's become evident in the past year or so of articles ripping Android but praising Apple.
I used to go to CNET for news, now I only go to read the comments because they're entertaining.

alex2792 said:
I've used both Android and iOS extensively and I can't recommend an Android phone and especially tablet(simply awful) to anyone besides an irrational Apple hater(just to watch them waste hours flashing custom roms in hope of making it not suck so bad). Only carriers and vendors, not users benefit from Android's openness, so at the end of the day it's dimly a buzzword that Google uses to target the nerd market. While iOS I'd far far from perfect it's still much more usable than Android. An average user doesn't give a hoot about rooting,live wallpapers or replacement launchers they just want something that works out of the box. Just because a tiny portion of the market(mostly people who visit this site) doesn't mind having to void the warranty in order to make their phone or tablet somewhat usable doesn't mean that an average consumer will be willing to jump through these hoops.
Furthermore, Android tablets are such trash(being kind here) compared to the iPad that no sane individual will buy them at the same price range. If someone doesn't want an iPad then they should just wait for W8 tablets, but Android should be avoided like plague.
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Rubbish. Have used both extensively as well for years
Your missing the point of roming and tweaking. It is not because you have to, it is because you enjoy to.
I have both iPad and android tablet. I don't use the ipad
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alex2792 said:
I've used both Android and iOS extensively and I can't recommend an Android phone and especially tablet(simply awful) to anyone besides an irrational Apple hater(just to watch them waste hours flashing custom roms in hope of making it not suck so bad). Only carriers and vendors, not users benefit from Android's openness, so at the end of the day it's dimly a buzzword that Google uses to target the nerd market. While iOS I'd far far from perfect it's still much more usable than Android. An average user doesn't give a hoot about rooting,live wallpapers or replacement launchers they just want something that works out of the box. Just because a tiny portion of the market(mostly people who visit this site) doesn't mind having to void the warranty in order to make their phone or tablet somewhat usable doesn't mean that an average consumer will be willing to jump through these hoops.
Furthermore, Android tablets are such trash(being kind here) compared to the iPad that no sane individual will buy them at the same price range. If someone doesn't want an iPad then they should just wait for W8 tablets, but Android should be avoided like plague.
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Obvious troll is obvious. The end user benefits from Android's openness by being able to build and distribute custom ROMs without copyright infringement. Many of us thoroughly enjoy flashing ROMs, rooting, etc. We aren't doing it only to make the device usable.

The Transformer Prime is my first Android device... it crashes a half dozen times a day. I think it is a nice piece of kit, with buggy software. Im not trading it for an IPad, but Im not satisfied as I feel I should be after dropping 650 for this thing. IDK who you blame, running ICS, latest patches hasn't fixed the random reboots, wacko video artifacts after using it a few minutes, slow browsing, buggy touchscreen keyboards, apps that freeze doing the most basic operations... is it the apps, the hardware, or android?!?! I let my kid play some random apps and I get an email that I just spent $20 for some BS in game credits that don't even require a password to steal money from your account!!!! The developer doesnt respond and there's no recourse through the android marketplace...
THE WHOLE MESS IS HALF BAKED. Instead of blaming cnet for telling the truth how about you fix the problems!?!?!
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PS He's also right about the quality of the apps. I find much higher quality audio and video editing apps on my IPhone, where there seems to be nothing comparable for Android... maybe someone can point me to an App that will let me splice, add transitions, voice overs, audio, titles etc for videos I create like I can using Reel Director on IOS... show me some decent tracking, midi over wifi, synths for Android.... if they exist, prey tell.

Watching Peter pan (for free, love ice stream) with my kids on my tv using my unusable semi functioning crap android tablet. Last week I watched the UFC pay per view using this thing the call flash.
For video editing try google video editor. Have not used it much as it is made for 10" tabs and mine is 7" so it is not scaled correctly. Appears to have some of the features you want
Honeycomb version but may work on ics
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DigitalSkyline said:
The Transformer Prime is my first Android device... it crashes a half dozen times a day. I think it is a nice piece of kit, with buggy software. Im not trading it for an IPad, but Im not satisfied as I feel I should be after dropping 650 for this thing. IDK who you blame, running ICS, latest patches hasn't fixed the random reboots, wacko video artifacts after using it a few minutes, slow browsing, buggy touchscreen keyboards, apps that freeze doing the most basic operations... is it the apps, the hardware, or android?!?! I let my kid play some random apps and I get an email that I just spent $20 for some BS in game credits that don't even require a password to steal money from your account!!!! The developer doesnt respond and there's no recourse through the android marketplace...
THE WHOLE MESS IS HALF BAKED. Instead of blaming cnet for telling the truth how about you fix the problems!?!?!
---------- Post added at 03:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:38 PM ----------
PS He's also right about the quality of the apps. I find much higher quality audio and video editing apps on my IPhone, where there seems to be nothing comparable for Android... maybe someone can point me to an App that will let me splice, add transitions, voice overs, audio, titles etc for videos I create like I can using Reel Director on IOS... show me some decent tracking, midi over wifi, synths for Android.... if they exist, prey tell.
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Welcome to the land of Android, prepare for a bumpy ride. I've had similar experiences with both Xoom(possibly the worst piece of consumer electronics I ever used) and Galaxy Tab(plastic iPad knockoff with the same crappy software). Browsing on both tablets was terrible, the browser froze, and oftentimes just randomly closed with no way of recovering open tabs. They were both useless as far as media playback since apparently Tegra 2 doesn't support high profile HD video, which makes me question the sanity of the idiot Google engineer who decided to make it the reference platform for HC. At the end of the day I've come to realize that even though it doesn't have all of the "features" of Android tablets the iPad is so far superior to the Google sanctioned junk that it's not even a fair comparison.

mcord11758 said:
Watching Peter pan (for free, love ice stream) with my kids on my tv using my unusable semi functioning crap android tablet. Last week I watched the UFC pay per view using this thing the call flash.
For video editing try google video editor. Have not used it much as it is made for 10" tabs and mine is 7" so it is not scaled correctly. Appears to have some of the features you want
Honeycomb version but may work on ics
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Yeah I've tried Google Video Editor... its crap... couldn't import videos or photos to edit, so I didn't even get past the first hurdle. Maybe they'll get it past the beta stage someday, but for now its not very good.

Google is sold out

Google says the Nexus Player is sold out, Best Buy etc... seem to have no stock.
Do you think they maybe releasing the next generation Nexus Player?

Just my guess, but I think there won't be next model or if there will, it will be a cheaper version. In my view Player flopped. Developers didnt do much for it and there wasnt really added value in it...

I hope they do release a new version.. it is a great little product that does suffer from lack of dev support. A new product launch could spark some excitement for the product and get some now devs on board.

They did release the Android N preview for it. Maybe that means that they do have future plans for it.

I don't think they would discontinue it but I could see them finding a way to make it smaller and more Chromecast like (who wouldn't want a Chromecast-sized dongle that runs Android TV instead allowing full apps and remote support)

It definitely flopped, but if I were Google, I'd give it another shot. Everything in entertainment is moving toward standalone streaming boxes like this, and I still haven't figured out why Android TV in particular hasn't attracted developers. It should be the logical alternative to Apple TV. Maybe they released the N preview to test the waters, and if devs finally bite, they'll either put the NP back in stock or put out a successor.
The fact alone that it has a remote should give it an advantage over the Chromecast. I don't know anyone who wants to flip through their smartphone apps every time they want to control their TV. Conversely, watching YouTube on an AppleTV is a pain precisely because it can't pair with your phone and you're forced to type out searches with an on-screen keyboard, and of course you also don't have the option of watching YouTube through Kodi. All it needs is a couple more big names in the Play Store and it would catch like wildfire, and the recent addition of HBO Go is a start.

gregfrankenstein said:
It definitely flopped, but if I were Google, I'd give it another shot. Everything in entertainment is moving toward standalone streaming boxes like this, and I still haven't figured out why Android TV in particular hasn't attracted developers. It should be the logical alternative to Apple TV. Maybe they released the N preview to test the waters, and if devs finally bite, they'll either put the NP back in stock or put out a successor.
The fact alone that it has a remote should give it an advantage over the Chromecast. I don't know anyone who wants to flip through their smartphone apps every time they want to control their TV. Conversely, watching YouTube on an AppleTV is a pain precisely because it can't pair with your phone and you're forced to type out searches with an on-screen keyboard, and of course you also don't have the option of watching YouTube through Kodi. All it needs is a couple more big names in the Play Store and it would catch like wildfire, and the recent addition of HBO Go is a start.
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Thing is....
Google does believe people would rather use their phone(which they already have in use or on them constantly) to control media content.
And actually, google is more focused on AndroidTV being built into televisions. That is their future, but they don't plan on giving up on people that don't wish to replace their existing televisions.
Sony, LG, Vizio.... All trending towards further AndroidTV integration.
They we restock the NP as we know it. But likely there will be a new device soon enough. They have to essentially compete with the fire TV's(not the fire stick) and be capable of 4k output.
Amazon has not been profiting on any of their ftv devices though.... And that is a whole nother discussion. But I'd expect a new Nexus Player device to hit the market by years end.
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nexus player makes the best plex + tv for the price
what am i supposed to use if they dont make no moe

There is a bunch on eBay for sale....
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