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Sling player for Android

This is from engadet.
Good news, Android fans. It looks like you'll soon have a SlingPlayer to call your own. While complete details are still pretty light, the company was showing off the app at the recent GDGT Live event in Austin, and confirmed that it will be available sometime this summer, and support streaming over both 3G and WiFi -- yes, even Friends streaming. Head on past the break for a quick demo video.
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ShyTownFantasy said:
This is from engadet.
Good news, Android fans. It looks like you'll soon have a SlingPlayer to call your own. While complete details are still pretty light, the company was showing off the app at the recent GDGT Live event in Austin, and confirmed that it will be available sometime this summer, and support streaming over both 3G and WiFi -- yes, even Friends streaming. Head on past the break for a quick demo video.
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About freaking time!!!

I must have that !!!

I want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've had a Slingplayer for years and this is one of those apps that I always anticipate. But, based upon experience, Sling has horrible delays in development. They always miss deadlines. They also tried to pull "our player will only support our brand new models" and then backed down after little sales boost and loud protests.
So, in summary, I can't wait for this app because I love using my Slingbox. I also think summer is a false promise and hope they'll support their entire lineup. I'm guessing they'll charge a huge premium for the player and I must be out of my mind owning a Windows Mobile, iPhone and soon-to-be Android license.

CorePlayer - Demoed at CES

CorePlayer has supposedly been demoed at CES and Core is at the stage now where they're just "Working on the Market LVL" (whatever that is) and fixing some bugs. It'll certainly not be a free app, and probably quiet expensive, (The existing versions are $29.99!) but if you have a look at their site you can see that it supports pretty much everything imaginable (ala VLC really).
Given the high price, the app is going to need to be a lot better than VPlayer etc, and realistically no matter how good it is, I'm not paying that much for a video player app. It's possible that the Apple & Android versions may be more realistically priced seeing as there _is_ good competition on those platforms (i.e VLC, VPlayer/Rockplayer, Galaxy tab's native player even).
They've been saying "soon" for several months, maybe now they've supposedly demoed the product (although no one seems to have actually seen it), it won't be far off.
It's always good to have options.

I wouldn't worry too much about the pricing:-
1. PC versions are always more expensive than App only.
2. To remain competitive Coreplayer will have to keep their pricing 'realistic'.
My guess is we shall see this title hitting the App store for something around the $9.99 mark.
An issue will be with the H.264 codec, which Google are in the news with at the moment.

Beards said:
I wouldn't worry too much about the pricing:-
1. PC versions are always more expensive than App only.
2. To remain competitive Coreplayer will have to keep their pricing 'realistic'.
My guess is we shall see this title hitting the App store for something around the $9.99 mark.
An issue will be with the H.264 codec, which Google are in the news with at the moment.
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It's not the PC versions that are $29.99, it's the mobile versions!

knightnz said:
It's not the PC versions that are $29.99, it's the mobile versions!
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WHAT..... You've got to be joking.

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WHAT..... You've got to be joking.
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I know, I had to double-check that one, but every one of the mobile versions is $29.99.
Methinks their marketing dept is a bit optimistic.

I'm not too excited about this. Every time i did try a CorePlayer, the results sucked!
Might be because it had never been too.... paid, but not being able to play mp3 or h264 in the Mac version? lol.
And file support varies hugely depending on the platform, the big one is just for Windows, everything else is crippled.
But maybe they'll surprise me, who knows!

AlexTheStampede said:
I'm not too excited about this. Every time i did try a CorePlayer, the results sucked!
Might be because it had never been too.... paid, but not being able to play mp3 or h264 in the Mac version? lol.
And file support varies hugely depending on the platform, the big one is just for Windows, everything else is crippled.
But maybe they'll surprise me, who knows!
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It is possible to build a (free) version of VLC for Android now and a proper release of it shouldn't be far off, so Core's app is going to have to be both very good and very cheap, or they're not going to get very far.
That said, they're releasing it for iOS as well which already has VLC, so it'll be interesting to see what their gameplan is. VLC isn't exactly the most attractive application, so maybe they'll have a fantastic UI.

knightnz said:
It is possible to build a (free) version of VLC for Android now and a proper release of it shouldn't be far off, so Core's app is going to have to be both very good and very cheap, or they're not going to get very far.
That said, they're releasing it for iOS as well which already has VLC, so it'll be interesting to see what their gameplan is. VLC isn't exactly the most attractive application, so maybe they'll have a fantastic UI.
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Agreed..... Attractive UI or not, Coreplayer as good as it's name has previously made it is up amongst some serious competition.
They are going to have to forget their previous popularity on the territory they once used to hold well and be realistic on pricing if they desire to attain their status.
Having to pay for codec's is one thing but not at the expense of making you financially unpopular.

core player has been around since winmo 5.5 days and it was even on palm os and no i dont mean web os. It was the ONLY player for it back then but then they started charging an arm leg and one other part for it on winmo. why would u pay 30$ for it if you can get rock player at 10 which supports the exact same thing

I think coreplayer will have more codec support when it is released, however..... corecodec have consistently misled its customer for years on when something is going to be released and what development will continue once released.
I paid that silly sum for coreplayer winmo6 as it stated on their website that "hardware encoding for MSM chipsets was coming soon". I had a touch HD (HD1) so the thought of being able to play all my ripped dvd on my little phone was very appealing.
They then promised more support with Version "2" and I am sure people bought version 1 thinking 2 was near to release as this was posted a number of times on their website forums. None of this happened.
We are now back to square one with Android, they have been working on this for more than 18 months and have very little to show for it in that if this pans out like their other efforts it will probably never happen and be 12 months behind everything else when they are supposed to be innovating.
Dont hold your breath, stick with Rockplayer.

I had Coreplayer on my N96 and it's BY FAR the best audio player out there...
I'm sitting on the edge of my chair for purchase...

Finally! Netflix IS finally coming to Android

We knew this would be phone specific due to Netflix wanting to ensure content restrictions were in place. The good news, it will be more chip dependent and phones with Snapdragon processors will be first.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-14/qualcomm-some-android-devices-to-get-netflix.html

OMG. That would be awesome. Go Qualcomm!

CAN'T WAIT!

Well, that's not really saying much without even a hint of a release date.

I read a article were it said newer Qualcomm chips were going to get netflix . I wonder if the evo would qualify .
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I can't wait till we get netflix and hulu
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Netflix on my phone would be great. Give me something to do at work..other than actually work

I think an OS would have to have at least some attempt at security measures in place before that would happen...

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I read a article were it said newer Qualcomm chips were going to get netflix . I wonder if the evo would qualify .
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I'm pretty sure the evo would qualify with it A8 type but too bad htc does not use the newer A9 that would make video playback as good as the iPhone 4 with it's high res screen and does this mean you will need 4g to stream the videos.

Well now unfortunately I just read at Engadget that only the newest Snapdragon chips, not even shipping in any phones yet, would have the capability for Netflix.
Poo Poo on Netflix, Google, and Qualcomm. As usual, the only care about selling NEW phones and could give a crap about anything already shipped.

thebitjockey said:
Well now unfortunately I just read at Engadget that only the newest Snapdragon chips, not even shipping in any phones yet, would have the capability for Netflix.
Poo Poo on Netflix, Google, and Qualcomm. As usual, the only care about selling NEW phones and could give a crap about anything already shipped.
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Welcome to android.

for some reason DRM doesn't bother me when its coming from netflix. Probably because 7.99 a month for streaming is totally reasonable whereas $1-3 per episode of downloadable content is absolutely ridiculous.

Netflix is awesome but it doesnt work on my country.

I would never watch netflix on my phone. Ever.
Ever.

I just listened on Cnet podcast that only next gen snapdragon chips will work, and they aren't shipping until early 2012!!! They also said that it seemed fishy since the iPhone already has it and the chip in the iPhone is not unusual. This is BS, Netflix is drinking the Apple Juice.
BOYCOTT NETFLIX ANDROID USERS!!

Even if Netflix was available, I doubt my phone would even have the horsepower to run it (moto droid 1, unrooted), so I guess they are just trying to make sure it is a positive experience for those users. That, or they are trying to avoid the fragmentation issue, or only available in gingerbread or later...
I would rather wait until I upgrade my phone to make sure the app works as good as possible.

I have playon.tv on my desktop to stream stuff to my roku but they came out with an android app in the market and it allows you to watch netflix and hulu on your android device, assuming you let the desktop app run.
From what i understand, the android app goes to your actual pc where it gets the videos and converts it to an android compatible stream. I tried it and it worked fine. Not a free app but you can try the trial.

djdanska said:
I have playon.tv on my desktop to stream stuff to my roku but they came out with an android app in the market and it allows you to watch netflix and hulu on your android device, assuming you let the desktop app run.
From what i understand, the android app goes to your actual pc where it gets the videos and converts it to an android compatible stream. I tried it and it worked fine. Not a free app but you can try the trial.
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Interestng I'll give a try

cant wait for this thing

Good news, hopefully, many will get some love.
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HTC Radar VS Lumia 710 VS HD7

I'm not sure I like the white on the radar and the quality of the hd7's screen and its older cpu/gpu put me off, but the lumia only has 8gb of storage. I'm leaning towards the lumia 710 right now because I prefer its design, but I feel like I'll need more than 8gb of storage.
P.S. are there any services similar to google music (or a google music app for that matter) on windows phone? That would pretty much solve the storage issue. (It's what I use on my android phone.)

One advantage of the HD7 is that, being a first-gen phone, it's highly hackable. If you want to do custom ROMs or heavy tweaking of stock ROMs, the HD7 is your best bet. It also has the largest screen, which help with things like using the on-screen keyboard.
The Radar strikes me as the Trophy v2, a device I was never terribly impressed with to start. However, it does have the advantages of a second-gen device: the faster processor and the front-facing camera. The CPU quality is not yet an issue, really - some games might load a little faster, but all of them are designed to play very smoothly on first-gen phones - but it might be a bit more feature-proof. It's also worth considering that pretty much any phone can be "skinned" with coatings that make it more resistant to damage and change the color, but are cheap and add little weight or size.
The Lumia 710 is a very nice device, but I agree tha 8GB is just too little storage. Is it possible to tear it down and put in a bigger microSD card? Many phones, including the HD7, don't actually have a soldered-in storage chip, they just use an internal uSD that can be replaced if you know how.
Google Music could be done on the phone, but it would have to be via an app. A quick check of the marketplace turns up nothing useful. Hmm, maybe this should be fixed... You can also use Pandora (and any other site that supports HTML5 streaming) on the phone; just open the page in a browser, and the music stream will start playing (you can control the station via the browser windows, of course) and the play/pause/volume controls that are built into the phone will be usable from any app, no need to keep the website in the foreground.
However, WP7 natively supports Zune Pass. For $10/month (less if you buy a multi-month subscription), you get all-you-can-eat music streaming. It can only be played on Windows Phones, Zune software on PC, Zune devices, and Xbox 360 (the files are DRMed, and will also stop working if you stop paying) but the selection is very nice, and my HD7 makes a good portable music player. It's a great way to get around the issue of not being able to keep your whole music collection on the phone. It's also a good way to discover new music; there's a feature called "Smart DJ" that automatically creates playlists based on songs, albums, or artists.

GoodDayToDie said:
One advantage of the HD7 is that, being a first-gen phone, it's highly hackable. If you want to do custom ROMs or heavy tweaking of stock ROMs, the HD7 is your best bet. It also has the largest screen, which help with things like using the on-screen keyboard.
The Radar strikes me as the Trophy v2, a device I was never terribly impressed with to start. However, it does have the advantages of a second-gen device: the faster processor and the front-facing camera. The CPU quality is not yet an issue, really - some games might load a little faster, but all of them are designed to play very smoothly on first-gen phones - but it might be a bit more feature-proof. It's also worth considering that pretty much any phone can be "skinned" with coatings that make it more resistant to damage and change the color, but are cheap and add little weight or size.
The Lumia 710 is a very nice device, but I agree tha 8GB is just too little storage. Is it possible to tear it down and put in a bigger microSD card? Many phones, including the HD7, don't actually have a soldered-in storage chip, they just use an internal uSD that can be replaced if you know how.
Google Music could be done on the phone, but it would have to be via an app. A quick check of the marketplace turns up nothing useful. Hmm, maybe this should be fixed... You can also use Pandora (and any other site that supports HTML5 streaming) on the phone; just open the page in a browser, and the music stream will start playing (you can control the station via the browser windows, of course) and the play/pause/volume controls that are built into the phone will be usable from any app, no need to keep the website in the foreground.
However, WP7 natively supports Zune Pass. For $10/month (less if you buy a multi-month subscription), you get all-you-can-eat music streaming. It can only be played on Windows Phones, Zune software on PC, Zune devices, and Xbox 360 (the files are DRMed, and will also stop working if you stop paying) but the selection is very nice, and my HD7 makes a good portable music player. It's a great way to get around the issue of not being able to keep your whole music collection on the phone. It's also a good way to discover new music; there's a feature called "Smart DJ" that automatically creates playlists based on songs, albums, or artists.
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Zune pass is nice, but google music is appealing because it is free. There seem to be a couple of google music apps in development right now (mainly CloudMuzik. Its developer says he's submitting it to the market tonight. He's the guy who made metro browser, which I am a fan of.)
I should add that I owned a samsung focus back when I was on at&t. I switched to tmobile because I have a MUCH better plan now. If I could, I'd get a focus s, but being on tmobile obviously restricts that. My current phone is a nexus s which I plan on keeping as a toy. I'd like something more stable as a daily driver and I love windows phone. Google music is really the only service I'd miss. I don't have a single song on my nexus s's internal memory, it's all in the cloud and it hasn't failed me once.
One other question I have is about sideloading apps. If I'm not mistaken, you have to "jailbreak" your phone to do this. How difficult is this and how difficult is it to install updates/undo it?

A Google Music Player is coming to the marketplace very soon! It's in the software Dev section
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and i would reccommend the nokia since they will have the most vested interest in windows phone, so updates and like will be much better

I don't really like appying the term "jailbreak" to Dev-Unlock (which is all that you need for sideloading apps). Developer unlock is a built-in feature of the OS, and is officially available to anybody... you just normally have to pay some money to use it (students can get it free through DreamSpark). One advantage of it being an official feature is there's no risk of it bricking the phone or preventing updates. There are some apps that can mess up the phone if used incorrectly (mostly things like registry editors) and they require an additional level of unlock, which we call interop-unlock. It's still technically a feature of the OS, but it's a hidden one not supposed to be available to end users. Currently the HD7 is the only phone on your original list that can be interop-unlocked, and you'll probably have to flash a lower firmware version to it first, then upgrade again afterward.
Currently, none of the free options for dev-unlock work on any of the phones you mentioned, although with enough effort you can downgrade the HD7 to pre-NoDo and use the original ChevronWP7 Unlocker, then manage to carry that forward through the upgrade to Mango. It's not easy, though. The official method is to get an AppHub (marketplace developer) account from Microsoft. $99/year, or free if you're a student. Well worth it to me, but your opinion may vary.
For what it's worth, you could of course get the Samsung and just SIM-unlock it. It might even support the right 3G / HSPDA+ (what TMO calls "4G", basically twice as fast as their usual 3G) bands, although I'd be a little surprised; most AT&T phones don't support TMO's higher-speed networks. Samsung phones can currently be both dev- and interop-unlocked easily using the WindowBreak project (provided they don't have the latest firmware update, which one bought now might not). Additionally, the first-gen Samsung phones (but not second-gen, like the Focus S) can now use custom ROMs. That was just published today. No word yet on support for second-gen custom ROMs on either HTC or Samsung, though.

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I don't really like appying the term "jailbreak" to Dev-Unlock (which is all that you need for sideloading apps). Developer unlock is a built-in feature of the OS, and is officially available to anybody... you just normally have to pay some money to use it (students can get it free through DreamSpark). One advantage of it being an official feature is there's no risk of it bricking the phone or preventing updates. There are some apps that can mess up the phone if used incorrectly (mostly things like registry editors) and they require an additional level of unlock, which we call interop-unlock. It's still technically a feature of the OS, but it's a hidden one not supposed to be available to end users. Currently the HD7 is the only phone on your original list that can be interop-unlocked, and you'll probably have to flash a lower firmware version to it first, then upgrade again afterward.
Currently, none of the free options for dev-unlock work on any of the phones you mentioned, although with enough effort you can downgrade the HD7 to pre-NoDo and use the original ChevronWP7 Unlocker, then manage to carry that forward through the upgrade to Mango. It's not easy, though. The official method is to get an AppHub (marketplace developer) account from Microsoft. $99/year, or free if you're a student. Well worth it to me, but your opinion may vary.
For what it's worth, you could of course get the Samsung and just SIM-unlock it. It might even support the right 3G / HSPDA+ (what TMO calls "4G", basically twice as fast as their usual 3G) bands, although I'd be a little surprised; most AT&T phones don't support TMO's higher-speed networks. Samsung phones can currently be both dev- and interop-unlocked easily using the WindowBreak project (provided they don't have the latest firmware update, which one bought now might not). Additionally, the first-gen Samsung phones (but not second-gen, like the Focus S) can now use custom ROMs. That was just published today. No word yet on support for second-gen custom ROMs on either HTC or Samsung, though.
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No, none of the wp7 phones are pentaband/aws compatible sadly, else I wouldn't even be considering any of these phones, I'd just go straight for a lumia 900.
So is there no consumer-oriented unlock tool for the lumia? I wouldn't say I "need" it, but I like toying around with beta software.
@mmian, that was the app I was referring to (cloudmuzik) and I think the nokia is what I'm going to go for. The free nav software is enticing and I prefer their design over htc's (never really been a fan of them, had a g1 which was pure **** and a sensation which wasn't a bad design, but they clearly put all of their time/money into making it look nice rather than having a good, responsive touchscreen that doesn't let dust into it. /rant). Now that I know google music is coming, the storage isn't an issue.

Well, beta software can actually be distributed through the marketplace now (the dev has to specifically add your account to the beta, though). Almost everything WP7-related on XDA-Devs is either custom ROMs or XAP files (sideload-able application packages, though), and you need dev-unlock to install the latter (and a custom bootloader to install the former).

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Well, beta software can actually be distributed through the marketplace now (the dev has to specifically add your account to the beta, though). Almost everything WP7-related on XDA-Devs is either custom ROMs or XAP files (sideload-able application packages, though), and you need dev-unlock to install the latter (and a custom bootloader to install the former).
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Wow, I had no idea! That's actually a really cool system. Thank you guys for all the help btw.

Just a little info also... there is an article on wmpoweruser saying the lumina 710 is pentaband.
http://wmpoweruser.com/250-rogers-c...taband-and-works-on-wind-and-mobilicity-also/
I don't think any of the others are (non nokia's that is)

For £7.50 a month you don't only get unlimited streaming and localises downloads on Zune pass. You also can get 10 DRM-free songs each month. That works out to be 75p per song! Zune pass works out to be much cheaper for legal song downloads and streaming. DRM-free songs that you get each month can be saved on your PC and are yours for a lifetime even if you stop paying for the subscription.
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Just a little info also... there is an article on wmpoweruser saying the lumina 710 is pentaband.
http://wmpoweruser.com/250-rogers-c...taband-and-works-on-wind-and-mobilicity-also/
I don't think any of the others are (non nokia's that is)
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Yep, that's why I'm getting it (a mid/low end device) instead of an 800/900 which aren't pentaband.

@drupad2drupad: You're confusing the old and the new subscriptions, sadly.
The old Zune Pass subscription was $15/month ($12.50 if you bought a year at a time), all-you-can-eat downloads and streaming, and 10 song credits for DRM-free purchase each month.
The new subscription, as of some time late 2011, is $10/month (probably $7.50 if you buy 12 at a time, but I haven't checked) but you don't get any song purchase credits - just the (DRMed) streaming and downloads.
It's still a good service, but if you consider the cost of those 10 song purchases, the original plan was the better deal. However, they've discontinued that first plan; the only way you can have it now is if you're grandfathered in. I wish they'd kept both options available; I have the old plan but a new subscriber can't get it.

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@drupad2drupad: You're confusing the old and the new subscriptions, sadly.
The old Zune Pass subscription was $15/month ($12.50 if you bought a year at a time), all-you-can-eat downloads and streaming, and 10 song credits for DRM-free purchase each month.
The new subscription, as of some time late 2011, is $10/month (probably $7.50 if you buy 12 at a time, but I haven't checked) but you don't get any song purchase credits - just the (DRMed) streaming and downloads.
It's still a good service, but if you consider the cost of those 10 song purchases, the original plan was the better deal. However, they've discontinued that first plan; the only way you can have it now is if you're grandfathered in. I wish they'd kept both options available; I have the old plan but a new subscriber can't get it.
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Really?
Din't know that all! Read all the review around, wonder why I never bothered to check the dates on them. Luckily after my 14 day free trial, I've moved on to 1-month basis. I din't realize I was going to lose the downloaded songs as I just kept thinking the 10 I download are now DRM-free! I knew it can't be that simple. And it's not. Thanks for pointing that out.
That really means all these few months of songs I've been liking and getting into a groove of listening will go as soon as I stop the service! Bugger!

Yeah, I really liked that plan (and am grandfathered in) but new subscripers can't get it. Such a waste of opportunity on Microsoft's part, to not offer both options and let people choose which they wanted.
The download credits are handled slightly differently from how you describe; I receive 10 credits each month, and when I select a song to "buy" there is an option to pay with a download credit instead. They don't roll over month to month - use it or lose it - but Zune software shows how many credits you have left, and it's a clickable link that will show you the most-played songs in your collection that you didn't buy yet (i.e. that are DRMed downloads), so you can slowly convert your whole collection, in the order that you care most.
You can also use the credits to buy some songs that aren't available for streaming (why anybody would choose to block streaming is unclear to me, but some artists did...)
Anyhow, yeah, it sucks that they discontinued it, even though if you weren't diligent about using your song credits you ended up paying extra each month.

Google is sold out

Google says the Nexus Player is sold out, Best Buy etc... seem to have no stock.
Do you think they maybe releasing the next generation Nexus Player?

Just my guess, but I think there won't be next model or if there will, it will be a cheaper version. In my view Player flopped. Developers didnt do much for it and there wasnt really added value in it...

I hope they do release a new version.. it is a great little product that does suffer from lack of dev support. A new product launch could spark some excitement for the product and get some now devs on board.

They did release the Android N preview for it. Maybe that means that they do have future plans for it.

I don't think they would discontinue it but I could see them finding a way to make it smaller and more Chromecast like (who wouldn't want a Chromecast-sized dongle that runs Android TV instead allowing full apps and remote support)

It definitely flopped, but if I were Google, I'd give it another shot. Everything in entertainment is moving toward standalone streaming boxes like this, and I still haven't figured out why Android TV in particular hasn't attracted developers. It should be the logical alternative to Apple TV. Maybe they released the N preview to test the waters, and if devs finally bite, they'll either put the NP back in stock or put out a successor.
The fact alone that it has a remote should give it an advantage over the Chromecast. I don't know anyone who wants to flip through their smartphone apps every time they want to control their TV. Conversely, watching YouTube on an AppleTV is a pain precisely because it can't pair with your phone and you're forced to type out searches with an on-screen keyboard, and of course you also don't have the option of watching YouTube through Kodi. All it needs is a couple more big names in the Play Store and it would catch like wildfire, and the recent addition of HBO Go is a start.

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It definitely flopped, but if I were Google, I'd give it another shot. Everything in entertainment is moving toward standalone streaming boxes like this, and I still haven't figured out why Android TV in particular hasn't attracted developers. It should be the logical alternative to Apple TV. Maybe they released the N preview to test the waters, and if devs finally bite, they'll either put the NP back in stock or put out a successor.
The fact alone that it has a remote should give it an advantage over the Chromecast. I don't know anyone who wants to flip through their smartphone apps every time they want to control their TV. Conversely, watching YouTube on an AppleTV is a pain precisely because it can't pair with your phone and you're forced to type out searches with an on-screen keyboard, and of course you also don't have the option of watching YouTube through Kodi. All it needs is a couple more big names in the Play Store and it would catch like wildfire, and the recent addition of HBO Go is a start.
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Thing is....
Google does believe people would rather use their phone(which they already have in use or on them constantly) to control media content.
And actually, google is more focused on AndroidTV being built into televisions. That is their future, but they don't plan on giving up on people that don't wish to replace their existing televisions.
Sony, LG, Vizio.... All trending towards further AndroidTV integration.
They we restock the NP as we know it. But likely there will be a new device soon enough. They have to essentially compete with the fire TV's(not the fire stick) and be capable of 4k output.
Amazon has not been profiting on any of their ftv devices though.... And that is a whole nother discussion. But I'd expect a new Nexus Player device to hit the market by years end.
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nexus player makes the best plex + tv for the price
what am i supposed to use if they dont make no moe

There is a bunch on eBay for sale....
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