Is there any possible way to install touchwiz launcher on Moto E2 without root or installing custom rom.
Any working flashable zip is available ?
Also provide instructions for installation of the same.
deanthomas said:
Is there any possible way to install touchwiz launcher on Moto E2 without root or installing custom rom.
Any working flashable zip is available ?
Also provide instructions for installation of the same.
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Just search the playstore for a launcher
Sent from my MotoE2(4G-LTE) using Tapatalk
deanthomas said:
Is there any possible way to install touchwiz launcher on Moto E2 without root or installing custom rom.
Any working flashable zip is available ?
Also provide instructions for installation of the same.
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Be specific whether you want it with root or without root???
Silent Visitor said:
Be specific whether you want it with root or without root???
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It would be best if it is without root. But if its there with root it will also work.
I tried S Launcher and some launchers from the play store but it does not give me tge same samsung interface.
Also provide method to install as well as uninstall the same.
Thanks in advance.
deanthomas said:
It would be best if it is without root. But if its there with root it will also work.
I tried S Launcher and some launchers from the play store but it does not give me tge same samsung interface.
Also provide method to install as well as uninstall the same.
Thanks in advance.
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If your going for root and have a custom ROM installed them you can just download a theme from play store that will help you
But if you wanna so it on stock then there's no other option to do it without launcher
Also I would prefer root because theme will give you a better interface everywhere not only in app drawer but also in settings,notification drawer etc !!
Silent Visitor said:
If your going for root and have a custom ROM installed them you can just download a theme from play store that will help you
But if you wanna so it on stock then there's no other option to do it without launcher
Also I would prefer root because theme will give you a better interface everywhere not only in app drawer but also in settings,notification drawer etc !!
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Ok no problem. Provide me the instructions for installation with root.
Can it be done just by rooting the device without installing a custom rom. It would be delightful if that is possible.
Just like we flash a zip file for some apps to be installed.
deanthomas said:
Ok no problem. Provide me the instructions for installation with root.
Can it be done just by rooting the device without installing a custom rom. It would be delightful if that is possible.
Just like we flash a zip file for some apps to be installed.
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To root your device you can refer to another thread on XDA
Custom ROM is necessary for theme effect !!
Silent Visitor said:
To root your device you can refer to another thread on XDA
Custom ROM is necessary for theme effect !!
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Ok can u provide me the link to custom rom which would give me the best performance on my phone along with installation instructions as well as uninstallation of the same.
And the method to switch back to the stock rom.
deanthomas said:
Ok can u provide me the link to custom rom which would give me the best performance on my phone along with installation instructions as well as uninstallation of the same.
And the method to switch back to the stock rom.
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I don't really understand what you mean by that. Firstly be sure whether you wanna root you device or not . It's a risky job indeed to root the device . make sure you refer to the thread properly and have all the requirements. If you don't want all this stuff to be done then enjoy the launcher effects.
deanthomas said:
Is there any possible way to install touchwiz launcher on Moto E2 without root or installing custom rom.
Any working flashable zip is available ?
Also provide instructions for installation of the same.
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Here you go..this is an almost the same replica of what you want..you might get transparent nav bar and status bar...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2605369&d=1393581600
Silent Visitor said:
I don't really understand what you mean by that. Firstly be sure whether you wanna root you device or not . It's a risky job indeed to root the device . make sure you refer to the thread properly and have all the requirements. If you don't want all this stuff to be done then enjoy the launcher effects.
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1. I want to root the device (Only if it is required).
2. I want to install the custom rom (Only if it is required).
3. I want the complete galaxy transformation pack (My phone should look completely like samsung).
4. I want the instructions to install all this.
5. I also want instructions to uninstall all this in case if I want to bring back the stock default system.
PseudoDev said:
Here you go..this is an almost the same replica of what you want..you might get transparent nav bar and status bar...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2605369&d=1393581600
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Thank you for your reply. This is similar to what I want.
I want to use whole samsung interface on my moto E2
(Samsung default messaging app, phone dialer etc etc , everything samsung)
The launcher which you have given works good and also provides the look which I want but I also want all the apps from samsung devices.
deanthomas said:
Thank you for your reply. This is similar to what I want.
I want to use whole samsung interface on my moto E2
(Samsung default messaging app, phone dialer etc etc , everything samsung)
The launcher which you have given works good and also provides the look which I want but I also want all the apps from samsung devices.
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I've tried this as on my moto e but not with a Samsung interface, i tried this with the HTC sense 7 interface, by Xpirit here on XDA, but this made my moto e slow and laggy.
I also tried a windows phone interface with windows apps, I didn't like it.
Samsung's touchwiz is renowned for being laggy and slow on Samsung devices, why you want need this on a moto E is beyond me, but that's your choice!
What a full touchwiz port would run like on a moto e 2015 I can't say, because I don't know!
Just a small word of caution.........
I find that unless you flash a "themed" custom ROM, you won't get the "full" other manufacturer effect you desire, some element will still be stock android or "basic"
I haven't found any good themed custom ROMs for the moto e 2015, I'm not saying there isn't any, I just haven't found them.
But what I have found is placing different launchers, themes, overlays and xposed mods slow my moto e down to a crawl, performance is drastically affected.
Please consider this before you go ahead (you don't have to take my advise, any modification you choose to make is up to you)
Good luck
deanthomas said:
Thank you for your reply. This is similar to what I want.
I want to use whole samsung interface on my moto E2
(Samsung default messaging app, phone dialer etc etc , everything samsung)
The launcher which you have given works good and also provides the look which I want but I also want all the apps from samsung devices.
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I have an idea but not sure about its success. You could go to any Samsung galaxy 4, 5 or 6 XDA and download its Deodexed Stock ROM
After doing that, try extracting the system.img and from the system image, you will get an app folder which will have the system apps. Choose what you like and copy those to your phone. As I said, I'm not sure whether this works.:laugh::laugh:
P.S : And yeah, just like @ivan39 said, y do you need a touchwiz background!! I mean, I owned a Samsung. It was a nightmare. I didn't even keep it for 6 months. Exchanged it for a moto e2. Just y?
PseudoDev said:
I have an idea but not sure about its success. You could go to any Samsung galaxy 4, 5 or 6 XDA and download its Deodexed Stock ROM
After doing that, try extracting the system.img and from the system image, you will get an app folder which will have the system apps. Choose what you like and copy those to your phone. As I said, I'm not sure whether this works.:laugh::laugh:
P.S : And yeah, just like @ivan39 said, y do you need a touchwiz background!! I mean, I owned a Samsung. It was a nightmare. I didn't even keep it for 6 months. Exchanged it for a moto e2. Just y?
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I had several Samsung's, last one I had was an s9000i or s1 someone gave to me, it was the easiest to root/flash ROMs/make mods for, but it was the slowest and had the most pathetic performance of any any smartphone I've owned.
I'll personally never have another Samsung, I now only buy phones that are stock or pure android, I find them much better without all that bloat!
I did notice a lot of those horrible cheap Chinese handsets available have a touch wiz like interface, maybe you could find a port of that?
Edit
A discussion/disagreement at work today regarding theming ect......
Someone happened to notice my own moto e homescreen looks like the nexus 5x.
I only use the "beach drone" nexus 5x wallpaper, and I use Nova launcher with its standard marshmallow icons, but that's where the similarities with the Nexus ends.
I use the CLock weather/clock widget with google now weather icons that the nexus doesn't, and I also use a different google search widget on my home screen to the nexus.
The gentleman who took me to task over "copying" the nexus home screen could not grasp the fact android is so customisable, and as he had his own moto e 2015 with the standard launcher, the yellow disk wallpaper, he didn't see the point to change it.
His argument was I have a ford focus C max as my car, but its not badged as a Bugatti or a Porsche.....
So if a Motorola looks like something else, it is something else and I'm messing around with stuff I "know nothing about"
I explained about theming/launchers/XDA/mycolourscreen/themer and icon packs but I'm afraid it fell on deaf ears and this man was quite upset I had changed my handset so Much from standard.
Point I want to make is we all make our devices what we want, that's the beauty of android.
If you want a Samsung theme, good. If I want to try out HTC sence 7 (that I love but its laggy on my moto e) then that's great.
Its all about individuality and we mustn't let others tell us different!
If you want samsung why not just buy it?
Related
Hi guys...
i am planning to buy(India) Motorola quench XT3, i need few help from you
Q1. is it advaisable to buy motorola quench xt3? is it great phone for budget price? i don't have much money to spend on phones since i have lost my iphone recently..
Q2. right now they are providing Android 2.1 with it....is it possible to upgrade to android 2.2? official or unofficial upgrade is possible ?
Q3. if i upgrade to 2.2, will i loose any features?
Q4. is xt3 possible to mod? i mean changing theme, adding widgets, etc..
Please help me in this....
i am looking for your support on this.
cheers
Can someone put light on this.....i am looking for your help dears....
its a great phone and i am using it know.Technicaly speaking its a phone that states its camera is 3mp on its backcover but mine is a newer android 2.1 version that motorola recalled it to change its camera sensor.It is shown in the camera launcher which says 5mp.It is pretty similar to the htc legend and i like it as the ui is very fast!It is so far very good and fast.No lag and it is very customisable.It can put almost any widget and at this price,It really is better then any phone even better then the legend.It also has a unscratcheable screen as it is gorilla glass!Its processer is 600mhz and that makes it alot better then the wildfire which loses in every way to the xt3!There is no 2.2 rom yet!But no features will be lost!And i am also a user of the iphone and i dumped it cos this is alot better if you know how to use it to its potential!Battery life is very good and can last a whole day with heavy youtube+web+Music+video usage!Get the phone!You will not be dissapointed!Make sure you get the android 2.1 version as there were two versions of it!
Hey Thanks Alisterrox....Thats great help....much much appriciated...
actually i already bought it - Motorola quench xt3.
i felt its good and the speed also good.....everything is fine...i played few games .....it went smooth.
also i have googled about 2.2 upgrade....few people have upgraded to froyo....which is cynagen mod.
if you know how to root our device...that will be helpful for me....there are few method ...i don't know which one works fine...
if you have rooted your device..pl. give some direction also if you have installed any theme or rom...please guide me how to do that
i hope i am not asking you somuch...
cheers
Root problem
Don't mention it!I did not root my phone as i have heard rumors that an official froyo update is in Feburary!I am sorry for the slow reply!As for cynagen mod it is the orange boston class which means you can try the mod in the class of the HTC legend or HTC Hero!I'm sorry if i am of not much help.However if you like the Samsung Galaxy S theme i have the file and i am gonna leave it here if you want!
Thanks alisterrox...thanks for your help....i already have installed Cyanogen mod 6.1.2 on my system....i didn't know that there will be a official update of 2.2....i could have waited for some time....even the installed cyanogen mod, i am not feeling its good....the touch resposive become bit lagish and the speed is very similar to 2.1...the battery drains early(this is the big issue).....the only benifit is i can install app on my SD card thats all.
between the file which you have attached here....how i can use...can i use 'rom manger to install ?
Thanks
Cheers
It is an apk technically speaking u just place the file in your sd card that will do the trick.You can use any app installer.As for the sluggishness of the mod it is expected as it is a general rom which may not be built for this phone specifically.....i will try probably to write a froyo rom into it if i have the time while i port a htc rom or any rom i can get hold of!Maybe dext motoblur rom as the specs are pretty similar!
Thanks alisterrox...whish you very very happy new year...i will try the theme and let you know....if you buil any rom please let me know...
also i have noticed that ...cyanogenmod people have ported the Gingerbread rom to our devices...pl. do check
http://boston-mania.blogspot.com/2011/01/rom-23-cyanogen-mod-7-rc0-for-z71.html
Cheers
ThanQ
I m screwed up with my pretty old HTC Touch.. I am looking for best of HTC Wildfire, Samsung Galaxy 551, Motorola Quench XT3, LG Optimus1 P500, Sony Ericsson XPERIA X8..
but after seeing this thread and other threads I will definitely go for Motorola Quench XT3. Only one question how is the display colors and resolution compared with others ?
ThanQ
@ kbmkreddy
according to me ....Motorola quench XT3 is best buy...
Screen quality is better than any other mobile in this category ....(you can check the specification and compare...XT3 is best in class).
i would recommend do check LG optimus 1 p500 also...this is also a pretty good mobile.
cheers
Cyanogen 7 testing.quench running 2.3
Well it's now very very stable.personally I have rooted it and I will provide any help for any one who wants to root and install gingerbread rom to their phone.my phone is now running cyanogen 7 build 28 android 2.3.2.there is no problem whatsoever and is very capable rom compared to 2.2.if u need help feel free to ask.I have a way to install root to update ur phone.I will do my best.and if needed I will give a step by step tutorial to ensure u have a good running 2.3 phone.I will post the tools if needed to ensure u guys will have a good phone.thanks alot for giving me the link!
@ alisterrox
thanks man...its great to hear that gingerbread is working fine in our devices...Please give the proper guide to upgrade our device....that will be a great help for us.
i have tried build 25 of CM7....then again i turned back to froyo...now we have good froyo rom's ...also few official froyo rom's for our device. right now i am using firetrap's rom(froyo).
thanks for the update
hope to see your guide.
cheers
Posting of guide
Well I will post my guide tmr.btw cyanogen has released build 31 alr.not sure how much improved it is but I guess it should be better on the battery(it's horrible on build 28).oh pls give me a link to any official froyo Rom?or link to firetrap's rom?I intend to see which is better on battery and performance as I prefer a quick plain and battery efficient rom.cheers and I will give a detailed guide tmr asap.cheers!
hey here by i have attached few froyo rom's for our device....these are works fine without draining much battery...
i would recomment you to try 'jellybean' 'Apanda' & firetrap rom's to test..
http://boston-mania.blogspot.com/2011/01/rom-22-official-apanda-a60-rom-22.html
Bug: 1. there may be a chance to loose IMEI ...also 2. registering the network in the beginning is very slow 3. App2SD is not so good...you can't move everything.
http://boston-mania.blogspot.com/2011/02/rom-22-flphfiretrap-jellybean-221.html
bug: when ever you do in setting menu changes....will be restored to the factory setting whenever you restart. but one of the best rom i have ever used.
http://boston-mania.blogspot.com/2011/02/rom-22-android-bakpia-cokelat-221.html
bug: it says official rom for XT502 but whenever i install through SUT...it shows some error...but works fine...App2SD is not so good.
http://boston-mania.blogspot.com/2011/01/rom-22-official-foxconn-rom-22_28.html
bug: IMEI issue, Have to root, for some device...will be locked...
http://boston-mania.blogspot.com/2011/01/rom-22-firetrap-twonights-221.html
bug: App2SD is not good, I didn't like the dialer but this is the 2nd best rom i have used.
hope i have helped you.
cheers
Tried rom
I have tried all but the best so far is the official 2.2 xt502 rom with gingerbread ui.it's very stable fast allows the installation of apps to sd card.also the kernel 2.6.32.9 is way u will want if u want superb battery life and great speed.cyanogen of course is faster but it gives horrible battery life.apanda's and foxconn rom's are very good generally.but I heard the clock speed is capped mostly at 480mhz.apanda's are 600mhz but don't worryfficial Rom usually have no imei fault whatsoever.oh if u are facing problems with any rom that gives u other region setting(that's wat I got with the official rom) just go android market and dl the regional settings app.I suggest the official rom bcos it's made for our phones and u will not get things like commitiva z71 or any other orange boston clones;it say xt502.Apps2sd works fine here if u do a custom partition;I did it and it works fine.generally if u like firetrap has good rom.but recent roms also built on the official rom such as the balakaila rom have the same stable kernel.look for those as they are special kernel for our phone.oh error codes on sutlr are very common as we had clockwork mod to install cyanogen b4...thus it works wierdly.I have been fiddling around and I will most probably attempt rom building on the 2.6.32.9 kernel with no root.complete stock will give good performance.besides the gingerbread ui is gorgeous so try that out!it even has smart dialing enabled unlike other rom's.it make dialling a dream unlike the previous roms mentioned.cheers!maybe we should request for a thread specially for our xt502!
Hi alisterrox,
Where do I get the official update to 2.2 mentioned in your last post? I'm running stock 2.1 rom on my XT502 and need to update specifically for apps2sd and such other features.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Motorola-XT502 using XDA App
@ pamfu ...Official rom i have attached in my post...the first link is the official rom for our device(not exchatly xt502 rom but its official rom for similar variant.....i guess you know...its just a brand name...everything else are same).
@ alisterrox ...Thanks man....even i thought the same....official rom are fine to use..its very stable.......
since you have knowledge about rom's...you should cook some rom for our device....we should ask seprate thread for our XT502....that will be very much helpful
Cheers
rom building and guide
well i am waiting for the 2.4 sdk to come out b4 i try anything....oh if u want to know how to update to the 'official rom',the steps are
Flashing non cyanogen rom
Step 1ownload and install the SUTLR to your computer(link to dl:http://uploading.com/files/7942c5ef/SUTLR_v1.7.0.zip/)
Step 2ut the phone in download mode -> red call button + vol up + power.Rmb to download the rom u want on ur computer and unzip it.It is a nbo file.
Step 3:In SUTLR ,choose the option "erase user data"
Step 4:Click flash rom.wait a while and it should work.
Step 5o not worry about the errors u get after flashing.Just go ahead and boot ur phone up.After the motorola badge u will get the green android robot.It should boot up.
Step 4:If u dont like the chinese root explore use system app remover to clear file and dl the full version using applanet
Rmb to always backup ur rom!
If problems persist with booting(applies to most roms)
Step 1:Go into recovery mode(power+vol up+camera button)
Step 2:Using trackball or volume buttons,select wipe cache and wipe user data(select button is camera button,back is power button)
Step 3:Go into advanced settings and select wipe dalvik cache and wipe battery stats
Step 3:It should work.If there are problems feel free to ask.
Rooting ur phone if u are still on stock 2.1 and want cyanogen
Step 1:Using the universal androot apk provided,install it to ur phone.Click root after installation and opening the app
Step 2ownload rom manager.U can use the market but u can dl the premium version using applanet which is a app that provides paid apps free.
Step 3:In rom manager,flash clockwork mod recovery.
Step 4:Back up ur rom by selecting it in the app.
Step 5l the cyanogen rom u want.Rmb to download gapps or google apps.
Step 6ut the rom rar file into ur sd card root folder.Rename the cyanogen rar file as update
Step 7:Go into recovery mode again.Select the flash 'update.zip' option.
Step 8:After complete,clear all user data,cache and everyting as mentioned b4.
Step 9:Reboot ur phone.U should get the cyanogen mod robot.If stuck at the motorola badge dont panic.refer to the help at the top of this post.
Step 10:Ur done!But rmb to download the latest google apps to ur phone.Its the same way put the gapps mdpi to ur root folder.This time dont rename it.just select flash zip from sdcard.after complete u will get the latest google apps.
Step 11:Voila u are done!
If u have anything such as removing apps from ur phone that u dont one but cnnt semm to uninstall it feel free to ask.I will do my best to help.
alisterrox said:
I have tried all but the best so far is the official 2.2 xt502 rom with gingerbread ui.it's very stable fast allows the installation of apps to sd card.also the kernel 2.6.32.9 is way u will want if u want superb battery life and great speed.cyanogen of course is faster but it gives horrible battery life.apanda's and foxconn rom's are very good generally.but I heard the clock speed is capped mostly at 480mhz.apanda's are 600mhz but don't worryfficial Rom usually have no imei fault whatsoever.oh if u are facing problems with any rom that gives u other region setting(that's wat I got with the official rom) just go android market and dl the regional settings app.I suggest the official rom bcos it's made for our phones and u will not get things like commitiva z71 or any other orange boston clones;it say xt502.Apps2sd works fine here if u do a custom partition;I did it and it works fine.generally if u like firetrap has good rom.but recent roms also built on the official rom such as the balakaila rom have the same stable kernel.look for those as they are special kernel for our phone.oh error codes on sutlr are very common as we had clockwork mod to install cyanogen b4...thus it works wierdly.I have been fiddling around and I will most probably attempt rom building on the 2.6.32.9 kernel with no root.complete stock will give good performance.besides the gingerbread ui is gorgeous so try that out!it even has smart dialing enabled unlike other rom's.it make dialling a dream unlike the previous roms mentioned.cheers!maybe we should request for a thread specially for our xt502!
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Hi Alisterrox,
I'm using official XT502 with 2.3 UI rom too, it worked good so far. But why everytime I restart my phone my internal memory always reduced a little ? I used app2sd with ext3 partition in external. Did it happen too in yours ? Thank you.
@alisterrox
You really rock man! Such flawless instructions! My XT502 upgraded in flat 5 minutes!
THANKS THANKS THANKS ..... MANY THANKS!
My phone, Samsung galaxy s3 mini
OK, so my phone is rooted, not by myself, so I'm not entirely sure what custom rom it has on. If this is needed known for my questions and there's a way to check, then please let me know. I'm happy to give whatever information I can to help with my questions. I can tell you its not rooted with CM.
Question one. The notification toggle that has screen settings, wi fi toggles etc, I want to know if it can be removed altogether so I can add my own using apps, or if it can be hidden or changed in anyway?
Question two. I'm aware that a lot of people like CM for a custom rom and last time I read they were working on a version for the phone I have, but I wondered what other custom roms have other people had success with? The only reason I asked this question is because the custom rom I'm using at the moment doesn't have much internally built in for changeable settings... I use to have CM on my HTC and had loads of custom settings that were things you couldn't change on the normal none rooted phone.
gizzymobaby87 said:
My phone, Samsung galaxy s3 mini
OK, so my phone is rooted, not by myself, so I'm not entirely sure what custom rom it has on. If this is needed known for my questions and there's a way to check, then please let me know. I'm happy to give whatever information I can to help with my questions. I can tell you its not rooted with CM.
Question one. The notification toggle that has screen settings, wi fi toggles etc, I want to know if it can be removed altogether so I can add my own using apps, or if it can be hidden or changed in anyway?
Question two. I'm aware that a lot of people like CM for a custom rom and last time I read they were working on a version for the phone I have, but I wondered what other custom roms have other people had success with? The only reason I asked this question is because the custom rom I'm using at the moment doesn't have much internally built in for changeable settings... I use to have CM on my HTC and had loads of custom settings that were things you couldn't change on the normal none rooted phone.
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I can't get u clearly though, it seems u r on a custom rom whose name u don't know. U can check it in setting > about phone> build name. Usually custom roms have their signatures there.
1. U ll have to learn modding the systemui.apk and few other system files inside the system/app folder of the root.
2. The custom rom teams which are popular after CM are MIUI, AOSP, etc
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galaxy grand
how to increase my ram make less system app to run ??
harrydey1 said:
how to increase my ram make less system app to run ??
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First root ur device, uninstall the unwanted apps that eats up the ram.
The popular way to increase ram is through linux swap AFAIK but it makes ur device laggy..
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I've managed to find out I'm using dmod. But I really would like to change it to something else that has a few more custom settings with it. Is there an easier way to change the toggle bar using mod settings type apps?
gizzymobaby87 said:
I've managed to find out I'm using dmod. But I really would like to change it to something else that has a few more custom settings with it. Is there an easier way to change the toggle bar using mod settings type apps?
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I don't have any idea.. May be u can have modded systemui for ur device by some other themers. Just search for it.
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Hello everyone,
Ive spend the last hour or so trying to find a basic step by step for me here, but so far nothing I can understand- Please pardon my ignorance...
Ok-
I have a fully STOCK galaxy tab 2 7.0 Plus:
-GT-P6210 (US model)
-4.0.4
-Kernel: 3.0.15
-Build: IMM76D.UELPC
I would like to get 4.1-4.2 running on here, but ideally- 4.1/2 running a stock(nexus like) ROM. I am def. not a fan of Samsungs interface as time has gone by, but seem to favor the nexus's (unless there is better?) . I know I need to root the device, and I am fine with that, along with all the risks that go with this (I killed a atrix a few years ago).
So, if someone could direct me to the proper link(s), or if your willing to help me a little (we can work something out PP/BTC) Id greatly appreciate it!
I have the ability, just have 0 teacher to show me the way. From what I understand some of the ROMs available here are great, and id really like to learn. I am a hardware guy for a living, swimming in this world of software is daunting at times...
There is no such thing as a Google / Nexus style ROM for this device. there are variants of CM 10 but that is custom CM, not Nexus UI.
In fact there is no such thing as a pure Google version of Android for any device. Google does not supply the kernel and device drivers so Google Android from Google source runs on none, nada, zero, devices out of the box. Each hardware vendor takes the base Android and adds their own parts to the kernel, adds device drivers and in Samsungs case some additional UI and frame work features (Touchwiz).
The CM 10 JB variants work ok, but some hardware features like the IR blaster will not work on those since the HW is Samsung specific. A better experience if you don;t like the TW launcher might be to install the stock Samsung JB 4.1.2 ROM and then install one of the nice third party launchers on the market to get a different UI look. The launcher is really the major visible difference between Nexus UI and Samsung. Apex, Nova, and Holo are 3 launchers that work well.
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There is no such thing as a Google / Nexus style ROM for this device. there are variants of CM 10 but that is custom CM, not Nexus UI.
In fact there is no such thing as a pure Google version of Android for any device. Google does not supply the kernel and device drivers so Google Android from Google source runs on none, nada, zero, devices out of the box. Each hardware vendor takes the base Android and adds their own parts to the kernel, adds device drivers and in Samsungs case some additional UI and frame work features (Touchwiz).
The CM 10 JB variants work ok, but some hardware features like the IR blaster will not work on those since the HW is Samsung specific. A better experience if you don;t like the TW launcher might be to install the stock Samsung JB 4.1.2 ROM and then install one of the nice third party launchers on the market to get a different UI look. The launcher is really the major visible difference between Nexus UI and Samsung. Apex, Nova, and Holo are 3 launchers that work well.
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Hello, and thank you for you reply!
That makes sense, regarding the Nexus/android ROM- again, please pardon my ignorance...
As for the IR blaster, i am not too concerned about loosing that function. I never really use it, and its never worked great anyway...
Id like to try a stock samsung 4.1/4.2 ROM, and try a 3rd party launcher, or even give the CM10 a go if the stock rom doesnt work. It is my understanding I will have to root the device before I can proceed anywhere. Is this a hard to do process, or pretty simple now a day (I would imagine)?
I again thank you for your help!
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Hello, and thank you for you reply!
That makes sense, regarding the Nexus/android ROM- again, please pardon my ignorance...
As for the IR blaster, i am not too concerned about loosing that function. I never really use it, and its never worked great anyway...
Id like to try a stock samsung 4.1/4.2 ROM, and try a 3rd party launcher, or even give the CM10 a go if the stock rom doesnt work. It is my understanding I will have to root the device before I can proceed anywhere. Is this a hard to do process, or pretty simple now a day (I would imagine)?
I again thank you for your help!
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You can install JB without rooting , right over ICS. Using ODIN.
If you want to customize, Rooting is the starting point. Root and install a recovery module , CWMR or TWRP. Haven't had to install root in a few months, I'll have to look at the current threads to give you a recommendation on that.
One caution,install JB or install the custom recovery and root before you wipe anything on the ICS ROM . Samsung had a bug in the system wipe routine that can cause permanent damage to the memory. It is fixed in JB ROMs and also in the custom recovery software. Just be sure not to do a factory reset on ICS.
Here is a link to the Samsung JB 4.1.2 for P6210. Using ODIN you install this over your current Samsung ICS ROM. (NOTE: the only 4.1.2 P6210 Samsung release so far is a UK ROM and some people have reported Wifi issues due to this, but I run this one and have encountered no issues at all. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2278740
This appears to be the latest instruction for rooting JB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41800762&postcount=216
Once you perform the above, you can return to stock Samsung ICS later if you want, but that would most likely return you to factory stock and wipe your programs and settings, so be sure you know the consequences before you jump.
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Rooting is the starting point. Root and install a recovery module , CWMR or TWRP. Haven't had to install root in a few months, I'll have to look at the current threads to give you a recommendation on that.
One caution, install the custom recovery and root before you wipe anything on the ICS ROM . Samsung had a bug in the system wipe routine that can cause permanent damage to the memory. It is fixed in JB ROMs and also in the custom recovery software. Just be sure not to do a factory reset on ICS.
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Thank you, I will wait for your reply!
and thats huge on the reset, no joke- i was thinking of doing that before I start the root process!
Thank you much! I greatly appreciate it.
Grumbles said:
Thank you, I will wait for your reply!
and thats huge on the reset, no joke- i was thinking of doing that before I start the root process!
Thank you much! I greatly appreciate it.
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See my updated reply above.
Hello,
Thank you for all your help,
I am def. going to take the JB over ICS route, that would be fine by me!
ive downloaded Odin3, and in process of downloading the JB ROM, so yay! hopefully all will go smooth! I will keep you posted if I fry it, fail, or succeed!
Thanks again.
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See my updated reply above.
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I have one final question for you, or anyone out there running this same JB/ODIN process...
Will this, and if so how much, bog the performance of the tab itself? I notice that the tab even with ICS tends to be a little "jerky" going from menu to menu, etc... Is this because of my hardware, or lack of the "project butter" being part of the OS? (I think that was part of JB?)
If I were to have the wifi issues, would I be able to flash back?
Other than that, i am ready to hit the "Go" button!
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I have one final question for you, or anyone out there running this same JB/ODIN process...
Will this, and if so how much, bog the performance of the tab itself? I notice that the tab even with ICS tends to be a little "jerky" going from menu to menu, etc... Is this because of my hardware, or lack of the "project butter" being part of the OS? (I think that was part of JB?)
If I were to have the wifi issues, would I be able to flash back?
Other than that, i am ready to hit the "Go" button!
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Why would this bog down the tablet?. JB is much smoother than ICS. That was one of Goggles goals in JB. However, some people expect PS4 like performance ..... ha...., all of these phones/tablets use cheap / low power processors. You get what you get, That being said, I am very happy with my P6210 on JB
You can always use ODIN to go back, but you will lose all your settings and installed apps when you do that.
The Wifi issues I have seen reported seem to be that some US Wifi channels do not show up. Not surprising, there are differences in the UK spectrum.
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Why would this bog down the tablet?. JB is much smoother than ICS. That was one of Goggles goals in JB. However, some people expect PS4 like performance ..... ha...., all of these phones/tablets use cheap / low power processors. You get what you get, That being said, I am very happy with my P6210 on JB
You can always use ODIN to go back, but you will lose all your settings and installed apps when you do that.
The Wifi issues I have seen reported seem to be that some US Wifi channels do not show up. Not surprising, there are differences in the UK spectrum.
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More just a thought about the S/W being much newer than the hardware. I most certainly do not expect superformance out the device, but more or less was making sure the hardware is up to the task. Would you rec. I do a backup of the system past the basic "app back n restore" app?
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More just a thought about the S/W being much newer than the hardware. I most certainly do not expect superformance out the device, but more or less was making sure the hardware is up to the task. Would you rec. I do a backup of the system past the basic "app back n restore" app?
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When you install the JB over the Samsung ICS, your settings and apps should be retained. For all brands and ROM, You can backup and restore apps with something like Titanium Backup if you are rooted, but you should not restore data between ICS and JB using most backup apps. the storage areas are different and doing so will cause bad things to happen.
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When you install the JB over the Samsung ICS, your settings and apps should be retained. For all brands and ROM, You can backup and restore apps with something like Titanium Backup if you are rooted, but you should not restore data between ICS and JB using most backup apps. the storage areas are different and doing so will cause bad things to happen.
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Done n Done with success!
As you stated, everything held perfect and no issues on the wifi side of things. This OS really made a good difference on the tab as a whole, feels more complete.
I thank you again for all your help!!!!!!!!
What would be a reason to "root" this tablet other than being able to run custom ROMs and maybe be able to off load some bloatware? I feel like I am missing out on what is possible with android and really should get on the bandwagon.
Grumbles said:
Done n Done with success!
As you stated, everything held perfect and no issues on the wifi side of things. This OS really made a good difference on the tab as a whole, feels more complete.
I thank you again for all your help!!!!!!!!
What would be a reason to "root" this tablet other than being able to run custom ROMs and maybe be able to off load some bloatware? I feel like I am missing out on what is possible with android and really should get on the bandwagon.
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For this tablet I don't feel that any of the current custom ROMs offer any advantages or features over the stock setup. I keep it rooted in case I want to drop in a custom startup screen or backup things. Other than that, there is really no good reason to root for the tablet.
Hopefully some of the developers will update to JB and add some of the Note 2 or S4 features soon though.
DigitalMD said:
For this tablet I don't feel that any of the current custom ROMs offer any advantages or features over the stock setup. I keep it rooted in case I want to drop in a custom startup screen or backup things. Other than that, there is really no good reason to root for the tablet.
Hopefully some of the developers will update to JB and add some of the Note 2 or S4 features soon though.
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I hear ya there,
What a big difference this has made! thank you!!!
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I hear ya there,
What a big difference this has made! thank you!!!
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Welcome of course.
Keep paddling, we are all in this together
hi.
i have rooted all my android smartphones so far. i was doing that cause i wanted to upgrade the android version to the newest one on my phone. so i would like to ask. why should i root a device which has stock rom the 4.4 version of android? which are the benefits of rooting the nexus 5 ? which custom rom are you suggesting?
thanks in advance
Teo
teoha said:
hi.
i have rooted all my android smartphones so far. i was doing that cause i wanted to upgrade the android version to the newest one on my phone. so i would like to ask. why should i root a device which has stock rom the 4.4 version of android? which are the benefits of rooting the nexus 5 ? which custom rom are you suggesting?
thanks in advance
Teo
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For better batterylife, temperatures and peformance, better sound and display. A good custom kernel will improve the phone a lot bro imo.
teoha said:
hi.
i have rooted all my android smartphones so far. i was doing that cause i wanted to upgrade the android version to the newest one on my phone. so i would like to ask. why should i root a device which has stock rom the 4.4 version of android? which are the benefits of rooting the nexus 5 ? which custom rom are you suggesting?
thanks in advance
Teo
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Sticky at the top of this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508292
This is also my first nexus device... I have always had HTC before and rooted every phone that I had... This is the first phone that im happy with stock rom, but I would like to change the kernel... My question is how quickly will the stock rom be posted up with every update... I know I'm not going to really want to wait...
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I've had Android phones for a few years but never rooted until I got my Nexus 7. I've loaded roms but havent delved into it too hardcore. This is also my first Nexus handset device.
As far as rooting - the replies here have outlined the benefits. If you simply root and unlock bootloader, then you can still receive the OTA updates. however, if you load up a rom, you have to wait until the developer incorporates the updates - unless, the rom already has anticipated and tweaked those issues in a positive way.
If you need to ask why you should root then you probably shouldn't; it's not a question of Chrome vs Dolphin or Nova vs Stock Launcher..
Here's a nice little article: http://google.about.com/od/socialtoolsfromgoogle/a/root-android-decision.htm.
Read around as much as you can and don't use a toolkit. Go the route that is described in the link in my signature. Make it a learning experience!
cables2590 said:
My question is how quickly will the stock rom be posted up with every update... I know I'm not going to really want to wait...
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google usually posts the full stock images within a couple weeks of OTA.
I rooted my first device (Galaxy S2) when I became tired of Touchwiz.
I rooted my Motorola RAZR HD because there was no possibility to silent the camera shutter sound without root (I renamed the system sound files).
Now I rooted my Nexus 5 because I'm using Greenify and AdAway which only works with root access. I'll also try different Recoveries, Kernels etc. to increase the performance/battery life in the future.
Titanium Backup. 'Nuff said.
This is the first phone I haven't rooted within minutes of owning, partly because I've been busy and party because I'm really quite happy with it. Unfortunately I need root for ad blocking so I think I'll be doing it today.
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teoha said:
hi.
i have rooted all my android smartphones so far. i was doing that cause i wanted to upgrade the android version to the newest one on my phone. so i would like to ask. why should i root a device which has stock rom the 4.4 version of android? which are the benefits of rooting the nexus 5 ? which custom rom are you suggesting?
thanks in advance
Teo
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Adblocking through hosts files. Also you can use droidwall to select which apps get cellular data and which apps get wifi only and which apps get no internet access. Secure settings app will allow you to set conditions to set and remove your lock pin based upon conditions set by an app like tasker. I use this to enable lockscreen when not in range of my bluetooth headset or home wifi.
teoha said:
hi.
i have rooted all my android smartphones so far. i was doing that cause i wanted to upgrade the android version to the newest one on my phone. so i would like to ask. why should i root a device which has stock rom the 4.4 version of android? which are the benefits of rooting the nexus 5 ? which custom rom are you suggesting?
thanks in advance
Teo
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no reason at all!!! but it's fun to flash things.... and kernel upgrades if they are done well can make you feel a bit more elite with some nice things. depends on the device and there is a lot of gimmickry with roms and kernels out there. but this being a nexus there might not be as many issues with modifications since there aren't so many manufacturer proprietary binaries and unusual dependencies. but sometimes on the kernel end they can upgrade sound and video drivers, or adjust parameters that effect battery life and things. my old captivate would go as much as 4 days to a charge becasue the gingerbread and even froyo development comunity on the i9000 was so good. the infuse i replaced that with never got that level of kernel support.
if you don't have an expressed need to root, like maybe for unlocking a feature the carriers took out such as teathering, or removing factory spyware like carrier iq (not that they do that anymore to my knowledge) or certain applications then rooting isn't really needed.
Hi,last Sunday I bought an almost-new G930F;on monday I flashed Netherlands rom.
I've used and adjusted it some days but there are somethings than I don't like it:The rom has the face,instagram,skype apps,and Gear Vr Services.This app has surprised me with high battery use,really exagerated.
The rom has the 2019 genuary patch installed.
I would like to known which rom doesn,t has these apps,or when they were supplemented in the roms....I would like to test some Stock roms before flashing custom roms....I have a s5 and the perormance with stock 6.0 is excellent...
Your comments and experiences are appreciated,Thanks in advance from Spain!
sergiojamcs said:
Hi,last Sunday I bought an almost-new G930F;on monday I flashed Netherlands rom.
I've used and adjusted it some days but there are somethings than I don't like it:The rom has the face,instagram,skype apps,and Gear Vr Services.This app has surprised me with high battery use,really exagerated.
The rom has the 2019 genuary patch installed.
I would like to known which rom doesn,t has these apps,or when they were supplemented in the roms....I would like to test some Stock roms before flashing custom roms....I have a s5 and the perormance with stock 6.0 is excellent...
Your comments and experiences are appreciated,Thanks in advance from Spain!
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Hello
All Stock ROMS have those apps pre-installed there's nothing you can do about it if you just want a stock ROM. However if you want to get rid of those apps you first have to root the phone then use any app remover from Google play store to get rid of what you don't want.
It is much easier to install a "Stock" Custom Rom which has all those apps removed and then your battery life will be great. There are lots to choose in the Rom section of this forum.
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Hello
All Stock ROMS have those apps pre-installed there's nothing you can do about it if you just want a stock ROM. However if you want to get rid of those apps you first have to root the phone then use any app remover from Google play store to get rid of what you don't want.
It is much easier to install a "Stock" Custom Rom which has all those apps removed and then your battery life will be great. There are lots to choose in the Rom section of this forum.
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Mmm...I understand,any eixample about that roms?(Name)
Does work the nfc payment app in that roms?
Thanks again,really appreciated your help!
sergiojamcs said:
Mmm...I understand,any eixample about that roms?(Name)
Does work the nfc payment app in that roms?
Thanks again,really appreciated your help!
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I'm using Literom and NFC works.