hi Experts,
i tried to find the answer from the forum, took me hours but no answer.That is why I am posting this thread.I want to root my HTC G1.But I don't want to use custom roms.On iphone when I jailbreaked my phone i did not go for another rom ,i used the same that came with it.My question is if I root my android device ,do I really need to install a new rom or I can use the same that came with it but will gain some power of having root.
sincerely,
ml
You don't need to but why not use a rom that has more features than stock.
Thanks for reply.I want to but afraid of make the device too slow.i can still remember when I upgraded ios 3.0.2 to ios4 on my iphone ,it was quiet annoying to use.I just want to root to move my apps to the sd card.
Installing a custom rom, normally, doesn't make your phone goes slow... but it gives it a HUGE boost and add features!!! And Android is not Ios 4...
yukinok25 said:
Installing a custom rom, normally, doesn't make your phone goes slow... but it gives it a HUGE boost and add features!!! And Android is not Ios 4...
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Thanks now I think there is no way to turn back.Can you or any one please tell me which rom I will go for.Cause My Htc G1 is not T-Mobile version ,it is from Rogers.i know there are a lot of thread about it ,I just need to focus on that rom which is the most stable and will work all functionality of the phone.
Rooted rom or root method for Ice Cream Sandwich on SGH-T769
Is this the right forum?
I dont know how much information you need, so explains my post.
Specifically the Samsung Galaxy Blaze 4G (SGH-T769), Android version 4.0.4, Baseband version T769UVMB1, Kernel version
3.0.8-perf-T769UVMB1-CL990184
[email protected] #1
SMP PREEMPT Mon Feb 4 22:32:34 KST 2013
Build number
IMM76D.MB1
I am not into experimentation with custom roms; I want ICS rooted so to remove unneeded and unwanted apps. I would also like an assessment of apps safe to remove, and again not experimental, but safe to remove without destabilizing ICS, or removal of necessary functions. I also want to tweak some settings for safe improvements in performance.
This is what I did for Gingerbread, rooted it per instructions xda, and removed unwanted apps safe to remove. I unrooted it flashed stock rom when I decided to upgrade to ICS. These successful; now have ICS, plus the security update, and want to root it, remove some apps, do some tweaks, and reinstall some apps only run on rooted.
Did I give you relevant information about what I want and my intentions? I apologize for such if I didn't. I am in Android (though I find some similarities to other Linux)
the equivalent of Newbie.
I am 70, brain still works, I believe, and want to learn to keep it working. Understand, the obvious steps in any procedure may be necessary to include for me. I am ignorant about Android more than a bit.
Respect your elders everybody lol
If I see this correctly, you want to root ICS. Click this link if you want to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1919228
Sent from my Nexus 5 with Key Lime Orange Mango Beef Tuna Pie
If you're looking for ICS custom ROM that is based on stock .you may want to look at this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965232. Good luck
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Thank you, but these either too much or not for my installation
Samsung Galaxy Blaze 4G (SGH-T769), Android version 4.0.4, Baseband version T769UVMB1
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The rom has to be that Baseband. My phone is a work phone. I'm a grandpa and a writer, so no wild, though elegant and beautiful creations. I just want either root method for ICS 4.0.4 T769UVMB1 rom of that.
May have to learn how to do it myself. Any books or classes you recommend? I'm in Huntsville, AL.
Thank you for your interest in helping.
I was considering getting the Google Nexus 4, except no sd slot, and battery changed with great difficulty. I watched a battery changed; it's glued down inside. Watch is done once, you dont want to do it. Now with my Blaze I carry a solar power charger and two extra charged oem batteries. I could carry two solar power chargers instead of spare batteries, same backup. The sd slot I can do without. I stream music from my home computer anyway. The Nexus solves the app problem; the apps I dont want are put on by the carrier and handset maker. Haven't found any Google system apps I dont like. I dont need to root it. The apps for unrooted I install are few now, and most from Google. I was considering the Galaxy Note III, but it aint out yet.
Thinking out visible. Excuse, apologize.
saintsatinstain said:
The rom has to be that Baseband. My phone is a work phone. I'm a grandpa and a writer, so no wild, though elegant and beautiful creations. I just want either root method for ICS 4.0.4 T769UVMB1 rom of that.
Thinking out visible. Excuse, apologize.
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It doesn't matter what baseband you have, the root method linked to in the first reply will work just fine.
Also it doesn't matter what rom you flash either, your base band will keep. The phone will work fine on any baseband anyways, or it can be flashed to the latest one that you have from the custom recovery if it gets changed somehow.
Hello everyone,
Ive spend the last hour or so trying to find a basic step by step for me here, but so far nothing I can understand- Please pardon my ignorance...
Ok-
I have a fully STOCK galaxy tab 2 7.0 Plus:
-GT-P6210 (US model)
-4.0.4
-Kernel: 3.0.15
-Build: IMM76D.UELPC
I would like to get 4.1-4.2 running on here, but ideally- 4.1/2 running a stock(nexus like) ROM. I am def. not a fan of Samsungs interface as time has gone by, but seem to favor the nexus's (unless there is better?) . I know I need to root the device, and I am fine with that, along with all the risks that go with this (I killed a atrix a few years ago).
So, if someone could direct me to the proper link(s), or if your willing to help me a little (we can work something out PP/BTC) Id greatly appreciate it!
I have the ability, just have 0 teacher to show me the way. From what I understand some of the ROMs available here are great, and id really like to learn. I am a hardware guy for a living, swimming in this world of software is daunting at times...
There is no such thing as a Google / Nexus style ROM for this device. there are variants of CM 10 but that is custom CM, not Nexus UI.
In fact there is no such thing as a pure Google version of Android for any device. Google does not supply the kernel and device drivers so Google Android from Google source runs on none, nada, zero, devices out of the box. Each hardware vendor takes the base Android and adds their own parts to the kernel, adds device drivers and in Samsungs case some additional UI and frame work features (Touchwiz).
The CM 10 JB variants work ok, but some hardware features like the IR blaster will not work on those since the HW is Samsung specific. A better experience if you don;t like the TW launcher might be to install the stock Samsung JB 4.1.2 ROM and then install one of the nice third party launchers on the market to get a different UI look. The launcher is really the major visible difference between Nexus UI and Samsung. Apex, Nova, and Holo are 3 launchers that work well.
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There is no such thing as a Google / Nexus style ROM for this device. there are variants of CM 10 but that is custom CM, not Nexus UI.
In fact there is no such thing as a pure Google version of Android for any device. Google does not supply the kernel and device drivers so Google Android from Google source runs on none, nada, zero, devices out of the box. Each hardware vendor takes the base Android and adds their own parts to the kernel, adds device drivers and in Samsungs case some additional UI and frame work features (Touchwiz).
The CM 10 JB variants work ok, but some hardware features like the IR blaster will not work on those since the HW is Samsung specific. A better experience if you don;t like the TW launcher might be to install the stock Samsung JB 4.1.2 ROM and then install one of the nice third party launchers on the market to get a different UI look. The launcher is really the major visible difference between Nexus UI and Samsung. Apex, Nova, and Holo are 3 launchers that work well.
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Hello, and thank you for you reply!
That makes sense, regarding the Nexus/android ROM- again, please pardon my ignorance...
As for the IR blaster, i am not too concerned about loosing that function. I never really use it, and its never worked great anyway...
Id like to try a stock samsung 4.1/4.2 ROM, and try a 3rd party launcher, or even give the CM10 a go if the stock rom doesnt work. It is my understanding I will have to root the device before I can proceed anywhere. Is this a hard to do process, or pretty simple now a day (I would imagine)?
I again thank you for your help!
Grumbles said:
Hello, and thank you for you reply!
That makes sense, regarding the Nexus/android ROM- again, please pardon my ignorance...
As for the IR blaster, i am not too concerned about loosing that function. I never really use it, and its never worked great anyway...
Id like to try a stock samsung 4.1/4.2 ROM, and try a 3rd party launcher, or even give the CM10 a go if the stock rom doesnt work. It is my understanding I will have to root the device before I can proceed anywhere. Is this a hard to do process, or pretty simple now a day (I would imagine)?
I again thank you for your help!
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You can install JB without rooting , right over ICS. Using ODIN.
If you want to customize, Rooting is the starting point. Root and install a recovery module , CWMR or TWRP. Haven't had to install root in a few months, I'll have to look at the current threads to give you a recommendation on that.
One caution,install JB or install the custom recovery and root before you wipe anything on the ICS ROM . Samsung had a bug in the system wipe routine that can cause permanent damage to the memory. It is fixed in JB ROMs and also in the custom recovery software. Just be sure not to do a factory reset on ICS.
Here is a link to the Samsung JB 4.1.2 for P6210. Using ODIN you install this over your current Samsung ICS ROM. (NOTE: the only 4.1.2 P6210 Samsung release so far is a UK ROM and some people have reported Wifi issues due to this, but I run this one and have encountered no issues at all. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2278740
This appears to be the latest instruction for rooting JB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41800762&postcount=216
Once you perform the above, you can return to stock Samsung ICS later if you want, but that would most likely return you to factory stock and wipe your programs and settings, so be sure you know the consequences before you jump.
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Rooting is the starting point. Root and install a recovery module , CWMR or TWRP. Haven't had to install root in a few months, I'll have to look at the current threads to give you a recommendation on that.
One caution, install the custom recovery and root before you wipe anything on the ICS ROM . Samsung had a bug in the system wipe routine that can cause permanent damage to the memory. It is fixed in JB ROMs and also in the custom recovery software. Just be sure not to do a factory reset on ICS.
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Thank you, I will wait for your reply!
and thats huge on the reset, no joke- i was thinking of doing that before I start the root process!
Thank you much! I greatly appreciate it.
Grumbles said:
Thank you, I will wait for your reply!
and thats huge on the reset, no joke- i was thinking of doing that before I start the root process!
Thank you much! I greatly appreciate it.
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See my updated reply above.
Hello,
Thank you for all your help,
I am def. going to take the JB over ICS route, that would be fine by me!
ive downloaded Odin3, and in process of downloading the JB ROM, so yay! hopefully all will go smooth! I will keep you posted if I fry it, fail, or succeed!
Thanks again.
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See my updated reply above.
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I have one final question for you, or anyone out there running this same JB/ODIN process...
Will this, and if so how much, bog the performance of the tab itself? I notice that the tab even with ICS tends to be a little "jerky" going from menu to menu, etc... Is this because of my hardware, or lack of the "project butter" being part of the OS? (I think that was part of JB?)
If I were to have the wifi issues, would I be able to flash back?
Other than that, i am ready to hit the "Go" button!
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I have one final question for you, or anyone out there running this same JB/ODIN process...
Will this, and if so how much, bog the performance of the tab itself? I notice that the tab even with ICS tends to be a little "jerky" going from menu to menu, etc... Is this because of my hardware, or lack of the "project butter" being part of the OS? (I think that was part of JB?)
If I were to have the wifi issues, would I be able to flash back?
Other than that, i am ready to hit the "Go" button!
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Why would this bog down the tablet?. JB is much smoother than ICS. That was one of Goggles goals in JB. However, some people expect PS4 like performance ..... ha...., all of these phones/tablets use cheap / low power processors. You get what you get, That being said, I am very happy with my P6210 on JB
You can always use ODIN to go back, but you will lose all your settings and installed apps when you do that.
The Wifi issues I have seen reported seem to be that some US Wifi channels do not show up. Not surprising, there are differences in the UK spectrum.
DigitalMD said:
Why would this bog down the tablet?. JB is much smoother than ICS. That was one of Goggles goals in JB. However, some people expect PS4 like performance ..... ha...., all of these phones/tablets use cheap / low power processors. You get what you get, That being said, I am very happy with my P6210 on JB
You can always use ODIN to go back, but you will lose all your settings and installed apps when you do that.
The Wifi issues I have seen reported seem to be that some US Wifi channels do not show up. Not surprising, there are differences in the UK spectrum.
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More just a thought about the S/W being much newer than the hardware. I most certainly do not expect superformance out the device, but more or less was making sure the hardware is up to the task. Would you rec. I do a backup of the system past the basic "app back n restore" app?
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More just a thought about the S/W being much newer than the hardware. I most certainly do not expect superformance out the device, but more or less was making sure the hardware is up to the task. Would you rec. I do a backup of the system past the basic "app back n restore" app?
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When you install the JB over the Samsung ICS, your settings and apps should be retained. For all brands and ROM, You can backup and restore apps with something like Titanium Backup if you are rooted, but you should not restore data between ICS and JB using most backup apps. the storage areas are different and doing so will cause bad things to happen.
DigitalMD said:
When you install the JB over the Samsung ICS, your settings and apps should be retained. For all brands and ROM, You can backup and restore apps with something like Titanium Backup if you are rooted, but you should not restore data between ICS and JB using most backup apps. the storage areas are different and doing so will cause bad things to happen.
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Done n Done with success!
As you stated, everything held perfect and no issues on the wifi side of things. This OS really made a good difference on the tab as a whole, feels more complete.
I thank you again for all your help!!!!!!!!
What would be a reason to "root" this tablet other than being able to run custom ROMs and maybe be able to off load some bloatware? I feel like I am missing out on what is possible with android and really should get on the bandwagon.
Grumbles said:
Done n Done with success!
As you stated, everything held perfect and no issues on the wifi side of things. This OS really made a good difference on the tab as a whole, feels more complete.
I thank you again for all your help!!!!!!!!
What would be a reason to "root" this tablet other than being able to run custom ROMs and maybe be able to off load some bloatware? I feel like I am missing out on what is possible with android and really should get on the bandwagon.
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For this tablet I don't feel that any of the current custom ROMs offer any advantages or features over the stock setup. I keep it rooted in case I want to drop in a custom startup screen or backup things. Other than that, there is really no good reason to root for the tablet.
Hopefully some of the developers will update to JB and add some of the Note 2 or S4 features soon though.
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For this tablet I don't feel that any of the current custom ROMs offer any advantages or features over the stock setup. I keep it rooted in case I want to drop in a custom startup screen or backup things. Other than that, there is really no good reason to root for the tablet.
Hopefully some of the developers will update to JB and add some of the Note 2 or S4 features soon though.
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I hear ya there,
What a big difference this has made! thank you!!!
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I hear ya there,
What a big difference this has made! thank you!!!
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Welcome of course.
Keep paddling, we are all in this together
Hi folks,
Some months ago I was finding my TF700 to be little more use than a place mat so installed CM10.2. I did this as guided by following the official Cyanogenmod installation guide. This left me with an unlocked and rooted TF700 installed with CWM and CM10.2 Stable. Since then I've updated to CM11 nightlies and been pretty much as happy as a pig in s$%t, but recently I've been realising the few limitations that are imposed on my rooted device by certain app developers - namely my bank and Sky.
I've tried every method I dare short of returning my TF700 to stock (and watching it quickly become a place mat again) to get my internet banking apps and Sky Go Tablet working on it but nothing has worked.
There is obviously no bullet-proof way of fully unrooting to get these apps working without loosing CM11. Was/Is there a way of installing CM11 on the TF700 without needing to have rooted it?
Is Cyanogenmod working on a way for simpleton users like me to properly unroot their devices once CM is installed or installing CM without needing to root?
A point I made on the CM forum is that the Cyanogenmod team have talked about CM becoming a genuine option as an alternative Android OS. However, until CM can be installed without root access or with root access being either completely rescinded or 100% hidden from such apps it will remain an 'enthusiast-only' OS as most 'normal' users won't see the benefit of loosing this functionality in favour of running CM. I'm an 'enthusiastic user' and even I am left questioning it.
It seems my holy grail would be a TF700/TF701 Google Play Edition.
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Hi folks,
Some months ago I was finding my TF700 to be little more use than a place mat so installed CM10.2. I did this as guided by following the official Cyanogenmod installation guide. This left me with an unlocked and rooted TF700 installed with CWM and CM10.2 Stable. Since then I've updated to CM11 nightlies and been pretty much as happy as a pig in s$%t, but recently I've been realising the few limitations that are imposed on my rooted device by certain app developers - namely my bank and Sky.
I've tried every method I dare short of returning my TF700 to stock (and watching it quickly become a place mat again) to get my internet banking apps and Sky Go Tablet working on it but nothing has worked.
There is obviously no bullet-proof way of fully unrooting to get these apps working without loosing CM11. Was/Is there a way of installing CM11 on the TF700 without needing to have rooted it?
Is Cyanogenmod working on a way for simpleton users like me to properly unroot their devices once CM is installed or installing CM without needing to root?
A point I made on the CM forum is that the Cyanogenmod team have talked about CM becoming a genuine option as an alternative Android OS. However, until CM can be installed without root access or with root access being either completely rescinded or 100% hidden from such apps it will remain an 'enthusiast-only' OS as most 'normal' users won't see the benefit of loosing this functionality in favour of running CM. I'm an 'enthusiastic user' and even I am left questioning it.
It seems my holy grail would be a TF700/TF701 Google Play Edition.
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Rooting is not the issue. PM me and I can help get sky-go working
I want to know the EXACT same thing as Sky Go is the only app I use that doesn't work on a rooted phone so I run stock (which actually suits me fine but I like to have the option to go custom)
There doesn't seem to be a solution. Though sdbags did what he could, he couldn't make my Sky Go or banking apps work on CM.
IMHO, CM remains a "nerds only" plaything. Ready for mainstream it is not.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
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There doesn't seem to be a solution. Though sdbags did what he could, he couldn't make my Sky Go or banking apps work on CM.
IMHO, CM remains a "nerds only" plaything. Ready for mainstream it is not.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
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It does seem Sky wrote the Sky Go app at a kernel level so it does deep checks for root access. Funny how BT Sport don't give a crap about root!
There is a CM11 build coming on the OnePlus One which doesn't have root out the box (CM11S) so it'll be interesting whether this comes to other devices or not...
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IMHO, CM remains a "nerds only" plaything. Ready for mainstream it is not.
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Stock Android is definitely a better ad and content delivery platform. Users who have control over their own device are not welcome in this picture.
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It does seem Sky wrote the Sky Go app at a kernel level so it does deep checks for root access.
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So that means that the app itself needs root access?
_that said:
Stock Android is definitely a better ad and content delivery platform. Users who have control over their own device are not welcome in this picture.
So that means that the app itself needs root access?
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This is from the Xposed module 'RootCloak' (http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak) listing apps that don't work with it...
App: Sky Go - BSkyB - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bskyb.skygo
Method: Most likely detects root via native library (built with Android NDK). Unsure of exact method, but the Java portion of the app contains "VGDRM_STATUS_DEVICE_IS_ROOTED = -41942891", and based on the library name, it's a safe bet.
Relevant Files: libvgc.so
Maybe not kernel level, but enough for the app to not work but could one day provide a hint on what to look at...
At this point I'm genuinely thinking of selling my phone and buying a new one with good Custom ROM support.
To each their own, but I haven't seen a need for a custom ROM since Android 9. I run a simple debloat script and the phone runs pretty damn well.
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At this point I'm genuinely thinking of selling my phone and buying a new one with good Custom ROM support.
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Tell me when you find a comparable phone with custom ROM support lol.
I don't "need" custom roms at all but it's a fun hobby to play with and at least on my old OP8P there was some support and I could just daily a new ROM every few weeks. On the S21+ there is only treble ROMs so far. And I don't wanna lose my Knox as my authenticator for work needs intact Knox on Sammy.
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To each their own, but I haven't seen a need for a custom ROM since Android 9. I run a simple debloat script and the phone runs pretty damn well.
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Which script do you use? Could you please share it with me?
I don't think there is a need for a custom rom for a new phone atm, because everything works flawlessly and it's even better in a flagship phone.
the only phone that I will consider to have a custom ROM is Xiaomi one, because its implement an ads on its apk installer module.
why do you need a custom ROM? customization is very great with samsung Lock App. but, the good lock app is only available in some region atm.