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[Q] From stock to Team Eos Wifi Nightlie (wingray/MZ604)

Hi,
I'll be getting my brand new Xoom Wifi (EU) next week. Now that there's an ICS rom with camera and hdmi, I want to upgrade to ICS. I have some experience with rooting/flashing the Hannspree Hannspad but just to be sure. The steps to go from stock to Team Eos Wifi Nightlie (wingray/MZ604):
- root
- install clockworkmod
- flash zip from sd
Is this correct ?
Thanks

piotrusc said:
Hi,
- root
- install clockworkmod
- Nandroid backup
- Titanium backup
- Factory reset
- flash zip from sd
- Flash Gapps
- Restore your apps via TB ( without data )
Is this correct ?
Thanks
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I am about 90% sure that's correct. Not feeling to well right now and its been a while since I flashed from stock. I am sure someone will correct me if necessary.

mobileweasel said:
I am about 90% sure that's correct. Not feeling to well right now and its been a while since I flashed from stock. I am sure someone will correct me if necessary.
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You can use the guide, below. I recommend that you read the 1st post thoroughly and at least read the last several pages as they may be somewhat relevant to your situation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction !

Don't upgrade to any ics rom if you are planing to test drive or daily use the Xoom. You will not be able to play games that have 3d. Only native apps will work (some). I think its the build and not that its a new OS...but its a nightly so you can't complain. I'm going to relock my Xoom and wait for the official release. There is no real point in using a custom rom if you are at the newest OS and the horse power is great for gaming and working. There are plenty of apps that will give you customization without root. Overclocking is not that notorious but will drain the baterry faster so there is no gain. ICS looks awesome and devs are really genious but I think the rom will not be useful until the official update comes out.

I'm coming from the Hannspree Hannspad and on that tablet I've used all kinds of roms (different Honeycomb flavors). I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. From what I've read in the forums the current build is a fully functional ICS rom. Can someone shed a light on this ?

Games or apps that require 3d doesn't work. Even soul craft that is a ics compatible game. So its not ics ...its the rom. I'm not complaining its a nightly but people saying its a functional build...well it is if you stay with the stock apps and native made apps. But for me its not. List of apps that doesn't work that I use. AutoCAD,Photoshop, gta3 , every gameloft , dead space.... some other apps work but sometimes fc or refuse to open and have to reboot. Some will say its not the rom but devs not upgrading theyr apps for ics but I have seen games working and then not in every ics build. So there's that.

Most of the application works. gameloft's game is not working currently.
I m nw on teameos aosp build29 n i m very satisfy with this rom. It is extremely smooth n fast. camera is working now too.

piotrusc said:
I'm coming from the Hannspree Hannspad and on that tablet I've used all kinds of roms (different Honeycomb flavors). I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. From what I've read in the forums the current build is a fully functional ICS rom. Can someone shed a light on this ?
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Actually the nightly builds are quite functional for daily drivers. It depends on what you do with your Xoom. I'm not that much of a gamer, so I don't care much about that. Photoshop Touch works fine, but can't connect with Creative cloud (at least a few builds ago when I tried), most everything else works fine. Not all apps have made the changes needed for compatibility with ICS yet, so not really an Eos ICS Nightly problem.

All went smooth. Running ICS now! Heaven. Thanks a lot!
Edit: should cifs work out of the box? Using cifs manager but cannot mount shares
Edit 2: When upgrading to a new nightly: just wipe cache & flash zip ? (sorry can't post in the correct forum yet).

[Q] Help finding a rom that comes with pdroid

Hello, I just rooted my Samsung galaxy note 10.1 gt-8013 running jelly bean. for the first time a few days ago. It was the first time I rooted anything. The reason I wanted to root it was pdroid. I have installed 3 or 4 different roms on it trying to get pdroid to work on them with no luck. I have also used the auto patcher like it says to. The tablet says it's installed, and have ran the auto patcher multiple times on each rom. When I look for it in the market it still won't show up. So I'm starting to get a little frustrated because I'm not sure if I'm just not using the auto patcher correctly or if it's just does not work on my table. If anyone knows of a rom that comes with pdroid with it. Or if anyone can point me to a rom and has the patch for pdroid. Any help would be appreciated.

Gustapholiz said:
Hello, I just rooted my Samsung galaxy note 10.1 gt-8013 running jelly bean. for the first time a few days ago. It was the first time I rooted anything. The reason I wanted to root it was pdroid. I have installed 3 or 4 different roms on it trying to get pdroid to work on them with no luck. I have also used the auto patcher like it says to. The tablet says it's installed, and have ran the auto patcher multiple times on each rom. When I look for it in the market it still won't show up. So I'm starting to get a little frustrated because I'm not sure if I'm just not using the auto patcher correctly or if it's just does not work on my table. If anyone knows of a rom that comes with pdroid with it. Or if anyone can point me to a rom and has the patch for pdroid. Any help would be appreciated.
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I too hope a dev will one day integrate pdroid, on a multiwindow capable rom, until cm integrates this feature, i guess that means stock roms for now.......either integrate, or build their rom in such a way that is compatible with a pdroid patch .
Over on the official thread, looks like the dev has added stock compatibility, but i suspect its for specific stock roms, could be wrong

Over on the official thread, looks like the dev has added stock compatibility, but i suspect its for specific stock roms, could be wrong
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Where did you find this? if stock roms can be pacthable it's just what i want!

Mr-Kappa said:
Where did you find this? if stock roms can be pacthable it's just what i want!
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I think it was for very specific devices, if i got the gist of it right, i think a dev needs to implement it into a rom specifically for our note 10's

yes,but i've no knowlegde at all for doing this. i was hoping you found something.

XPrivacy
banderos101 said:
I too hope a dev will one day integrate pdroid, on a multiwindow capable rom, until cm integrates this feature, i guess that means stock roms for now.......either integrate, or build their rom in such a way that is compatible with a pdroid patch .
Over on the official thread, looks like the dev has added stock compatibility, but i suspect its for specific stock roms, could be wrong
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I found out something similar to pdroid... it's called XPrivacy and runs on top of the Xposed framework. it needs root but it's pretty straight foward to install and use. it also works for pratically any rom including stock.
you can find the installation/user guide on github https://github.com/M66B/XPrivacy
I'm not 100% sure but there's an article on this on android police. it works like a charm for me (jb 4.1.2 on stock)
hope you find it usefull like i did!!

Mr-Kappa said:
I found out something similar to pdroid... it's called XPrivacy and runs on top of the Xposed framework. it needs root but it's pretty straight foward to install and use. it also works for pratically any rom including stock.
you can find the installation/user guide on github https://github.com/M66B/XPrivacy
I'm not 100% sure but there's an article on this on android police. it works like a charm for me (jb 4.1.2 on stock)
hope you find it usefull like i did!!
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Thanks Mr, ive actually got it installed already, but others may not know about it, so thanks for that.....brilliant idea.......i recommend to anyone in a similar situation

SOOO lost -total N00B

Hello everyone,
Ive spend the last hour or so trying to find a basic step by step for me here, but so far nothing I can understand- Please pardon my ignorance...
Ok-
I have a fully STOCK galaxy tab 2 7.0 Plus:
-GT-P6210 (US model)
-4.0.4
-Kernel: 3.0.15
-Build: IMM76D.UELPC
I would like to get 4.1-4.2 running on here, but ideally- 4.1/2 running a stock(nexus like) ROM. I am def. not a fan of Samsungs interface as time has gone by, but seem to favor the nexus's (unless there is better?) . I know I need to root the device, and I am fine with that, along with all the risks that go with this (I killed a atrix a few years ago).
So, if someone could direct me to the proper link(s), or if your willing to help me a little (we can work something out PP/BTC) Id greatly appreciate it!
I have the ability, just have 0 teacher to show me the way. From what I understand some of the ROMs available here are great, and id really like to learn. I am a hardware guy for a living, swimming in this world of software is daunting at times...

There is no such thing as a Google / Nexus style ROM for this device. there are variants of CM 10 but that is custom CM, not Nexus UI.
In fact there is no such thing as a pure Google version of Android for any device. Google does not supply the kernel and device drivers so Google Android from Google source runs on none, nada, zero, devices out of the box. Each hardware vendor takes the base Android and adds their own parts to the kernel, adds device drivers and in Samsungs case some additional UI and frame work features (Touchwiz).
The CM 10 JB variants work ok, but some hardware features like the IR blaster will not work on those since the HW is Samsung specific. A better experience if you don;t like the TW launcher might be to install the stock Samsung JB 4.1.2 ROM and then install one of the nice third party launchers on the market to get a different UI look. The launcher is really the major visible difference between Nexus UI and Samsung. Apex, Nova, and Holo are 3 launchers that work well.

DigitalMD said:
There is no such thing as a Google / Nexus style ROM for this device. there are variants of CM 10 but that is custom CM, not Nexus UI.
In fact there is no such thing as a pure Google version of Android for any device. Google does not supply the kernel and device drivers so Google Android from Google source runs on none, nada, zero, devices out of the box. Each hardware vendor takes the base Android and adds their own parts to the kernel, adds device drivers and in Samsungs case some additional UI and frame work features (Touchwiz).
The CM 10 JB variants work ok, but some hardware features like the IR blaster will not work on those since the HW is Samsung specific. A better experience if you don;t like the TW launcher might be to install the stock Samsung JB 4.1.2 ROM and then install one of the nice third party launchers on the market to get a different UI look. The launcher is really the major visible difference between Nexus UI and Samsung. Apex, Nova, and Holo are 3 launchers that work well.
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Hello, and thank you for you reply!
That makes sense, regarding the Nexus/android ROM- again, please pardon my ignorance...
As for the IR blaster, i am not too concerned about loosing that function. I never really use it, and its never worked great anyway...
Id like to try a stock samsung 4.1/4.2 ROM, and try a 3rd party launcher, or even give the CM10 a go if the stock rom doesnt work. It is my understanding I will have to root the device before I can proceed anywhere. Is this a hard to do process, or pretty simple now a day (I would imagine)?
I again thank you for your help!

Grumbles said:
Hello, and thank you for you reply!
That makes sense, regarding the Nexus/android ROM- again, please pardon my ignorance...
As for the IR blaster, i am not too concerned about loosing that function. I never really use it, and its never worked great anyway...
Id like to try a stock samsung 4.1/4.2 ROM, and try a 3rd party launcher, or even give the CM10 a go if the stock rom doesnt work. It is my understanding I will have to root the device before I can proceed anywhere. Is this a hard to do process, or pretty simple now a day (I would imagine)?
I again thank you for your help!
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You can install JB without rooting , right over ICS. Using ODIN.
If you want to customize, Rooting is the starting point. Root and install a recovery module , CWMR or TWRP. Haven't had to install root in a few months, I'll have to look at the current threads to give you a recommendation on that.
One caution,install JB or install the custom recovery and root before you wipe anything on the ICS ROM . Samsung had a bug in the system wipe routine that can cause permanent damage to the memory. It is fixed in JB ROMs and also in the custom recovery software. Just be sure not to do a factory reset on ICS.
Here is a link to the Samsung JB 4.1.2 for P6210. Using ODIN you install this over your current Samsung ICS ROM. (NOTE: the only 4.1.2 P6210 Samsung release so far is a UK ROM and some people have reported Wifi issues due to this, but I run this one and have encountered no issues at all. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2278740
This appears to be the latest instruction for rooting JB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41800762&postcount=216
Once you perform the above, you can return to stock Samsung ICS later if you want, but that would most likely return you to factory stock and wipe your programs and settings, so be sure you know the consequences before you jump.

DigitalMD said:
Rooting is the starting point. Root and install a recovery module , CWMR or TWRP. Haven't had to install root in a few months, I'll have to look at the current threads to give you a recommendation on that.
One caution, install the custom recovery and root before you wipe anything on the ICS ROM . Samsung had a bug in the system wipe routine that can cause permanent damage to the memory. It is fixed in JB ROMs and also in the custom recovery software. Just be sure not to do a factory reset on ICS.
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Thank you, I will wait for your reply!
and thats huge on the reset, no joke- i was thinking of doing that before I start the root process!
Thank you much! I greatly appreciate it.

Grumbles said:
Thank you, I will wait for your reply!
and thats huge on the reset, no joke- i was thinking of doing that before I start the root process!
Thank you much! I greatly appreciate it.
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See my updated reply above.

Hello,
Thank you for all your help,
I am def. going to take the JB over ICS route, that would be fine by me!
ive downloaded Odin3, and in process of downloading the JB ROM, so yay! hopefully all will go smooth! I will keep you posted if I fry it, fail, or succeed!
Thanks again.

DigitalMD said:
See my updated reply above.
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I have one final question for you, or anyone out there running this same JB/ODIN process...
Will this, and if so how much, bog the performance of the tab itself? I notice that the tab even with ICS tends to be a little "jerky" going from menu to menu, etc... Is this because of my hardware, or lack of the "project butter" being part of the OS? (I think that was part of JB?)
If I were to have the wifi issues, would I be able to flash back?
Other than that, i am ready to hit the "Go" button!

Grumbles said:
I have one final question for you, or anyone out there running this same JB/ODIN process...
Will this, and if so how much, bog the performance of the tab itself? I notice that the tab even with ICS tends to be a little "jerky" going from menu to menu, etc... Is this because of my hardware, or lack of the "project butter" being part of the OS? (I think that was part of JB?)
If I were to have the wifi issues, would I be able to flash back?
Other than that, i am ready to hit the "Go" button!
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Why would this bog down the tablet?. JB is much smoother than ICS. That was one of Goggles goals in JB. However, some people expect PS4 like performance ..... ha...., all of these phones/tablets use cheap / low power processors. You get what you get, That being said, I am very happy with my P6210 on JB
You can always use ODIN to go back, but you will lose all your settings and installed apps when you do that.
The Wifi issues I have seen reported seem to be that some US Wifi channels do not show up. Not surprising, there are differences in the UK spectrum.

DigitalMD said:
Why would this bog down the tablet?. JB is much smoother than ICS. That was one of Goggles goals in JB. However, some people expect PS4 like performance ..... ha...., all of these phones/tablets use cheap / low power processors. You get what you get, That being said, I am very happy with my P6210 on JB
You can always use ODIN to go back, but you will lose all your settings and installed apps when you do that.
The Wifi issues I have seen reported seem to be that some US Wifi channels do not show up. Not surprising, there are differences in the UK spectrum.
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More just a thought about the S/W being much newer than the hardware. I most certainly do not expect superformance out the device, but more or less was making sure the hardware is up to the task. Would you rec. I do a backup of the system past the basic "app back n restore" app?

Grumbles said:
More just a thought about the S/W being much newer than the hardware. I most certainly do not expect superformance out the device, but more or less was making sure the hardware is up to the task. Would you rec. I do a backup of the system past the basic "app back n restore" app?
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When you install the JB over the Samsung ICS, your settings and apps should be retained. For all brands and ROM, You can backup and restore apps with something like Titanium Backup if you are rooted, but you should not restore data between ICS and JB using most backup apps. the storage areas are different and doing so will cause bad things to happen.

DigitalMD said:
When you install the JB over the Samsung ICS, your settings and apps should be retained. For all brands and ROM, You can backup and restore apps with something like Titanium Backup if you are rooted, but you should not restore data between ICS and JB using most backup apps. the storage areas are different and doing so will cause bad things to happen.
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Done n Done with success!
As you stated, everything held perfect and no issues on the wifi side of things. This OS really made a good difference on the tab as a whole, feels more complete.
I thank you again for all your help!!!!!!!!
What would be a reason to "root" this tablet other than being able to run custom ROMs and maybe be able to off load some bloatware? I feel like I am missing out on what is possible with android and really should get on the bandwagon.

Grumbles said:
Done n Done with success!
As you stated, everything held perfect and no issues on the wifi side of things. This OS really made a good difference on the tab as a whole, feels more complete.
I thank you again for all your help!!!!!!!!
What would be a reason to "root" this tablet other than being able to run custom ROMs and maybe be able to off load some bloatware? I feel like I am missing out on what is possible with android and really should get on the bandwagon.
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For this tablet I don't feel that any of the current custom ROMs offer any advantages or features over the stock setup. I keep it rooted in case I want to drop in a custom startup screen or backup things. Other than that, there is really no good reason to root for the tablet.
Hopefully some of the developers will update to JB and add some of the Note 2 or S4 features soon though.

DigitalMD said:
For this tablet I don't feel that any of the current custom ROMs offer any advantages or features over the stock setup. I keep it rooted in case I want to drop in a custom startup screen or backup things. Other than that, there is really no good reason to root for the tablet.
Hopefully some of the developers will update to JB and add some of the Note 2 or S4 features soon though.
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I hear ya there,
What a big difference this has made! thank you!!!

Grumbles said:
I hear ya there,
What a big difference this has made! thank you!!!
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Welcome of course.
Keep paddling, we are all in this together

[Q] nexus 5- why should i root

hi.
i have rooted all my android smartphones so far. i was doing that cause i wanted to upgrade the android version to the newest one on my phone. so i would like to ask. why should i root a device which has stock rom the 4.4 version of android? which are the benefits of rooting the nexus 5 ? which custom rom are you suggesting?
thanks in advance
Teo

teoha said:
hi.
i have rooted all my android smartphones so far. i was doing that cause i wanted to upgrade the android version to the newest one on my phone. so i would like to ask. why should i root a device which has stock rom the 4.4 version of android? which are the benefits of rooting the nexus 5 ? which custom rom are you suggesting?
thanks in advance
Teo
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For better batterylife, temperatures and peformance, better sound and display. A good custom kernel will improve the phone a lot bro imo.

teoha said:
hi.
i have rooted all my android smartphones so far. i was doing that cause i wanted to upgrade the android version to the newest one on my phone. so i would like to ask. why should i root a device which has stock rom the 4.4 version of android? which are the benefits of rooting the nexus 5 ? which custom rom are you suggesting?
thanks in advance
Teo
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Sticky at the top of this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508292

This is also my first nexus device... I have always had HTC before and rooted every phone that I had... This is the first phone that im happy with stock rom, but I would like to change the kernel... My question is how quickly will the stock rom be posted up with every update... I know I'm not going to really want to wait...
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I've had Android phones for a few years but never rooted until I got my Nexus 7. I've loaded roms but havent delved into it too hardcore. This is also my first Nexus handset device.
As far as rooting - the replies here have outlined the benefits. If you simply root and unlock bootloader, then you can still receive the OTA updates. however, if you load up a rom, you have to wait until the developer incorporates the updates - unless, the rom already has anticipated and tweaked those issues in a positive way.

If you need to ask why you should root then you probably shouldn't; it's not a question of Chrome vs Dolphin or Nova vs Stock Launcher..
Here's a nice little article: http://google.about.com/od/socialtoolsfromgoogle/a/root-android-decision.htm.
Read around as much as you can and don't use a toolkit. Go the route that is described in the link in my signature. Make it a learning experience!

cables2590 said:
My question is how quickly will the stock rom be posted up with every update... I know I'm not going to really want to wait...
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google usually posts the full stock images within a couple weeks of OTA.

I rooted my first device (Galaxy S2) when I became tired of Touchwiz.
I rooted my Motorola RAZR HD because there was no possibility to silent the camera shutter sound without root (I renamed the system sound files).
Now I rooted my Nexus 5 because I'm using Greenify and AdAway which only works with root access. I'll also try different Recoveries, Kernels etc. to increase the performance/battery life in the future.

Titanium Backup. 'Nuff said.

This is the first phone I haven't rooted within minutes of owning, partly because I've been busy and party because I'm really quite happy with it. Unfortunately I need root for ad blocking so I think I'll be doing it today.
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teoha said:
hi.
i have rooted all my android smartphones so far. i was doing that cause i wanted to upgrade the android version to the newest one on my phone. so i would like to ask. why should i root a device which has stock rom the 4.4 version of android? which are the benefits of rooting the nexus 5 ? which custom rom are you suggesting?
thanks in advance
Teo
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Adblocking through hosts files. Also you can use droidwall to select which apps get cellular data and which apps get wifi only and which apps get no internet access. Secure settings app will allow you to set conditions to set and remove your lock pin based upon conditions set by an app like tasker. I use this to enable lockscreen when not in range of my bluetooth headset or home wifi.

teoha said:
hi.
i have rooted all my android smartphones so far. i was doing that cause i wanted to upgrade the android version to the newest one on my phone. so i would like to ask. why should i root a device which has stock rom the 4.4 version of android? which are the benefits of rooting the nexus 5 ? which custom rom are you suggesting?
thanks in advance
Teo
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no reason at all!!! but it's fun to flash things.... and kernel upgrades if they are done well can make you feel a bit more elite with some nice things. depends on the device and there is a lot of gimmickry with roms and kernels out there. but this being a nexus there might not be as many issues with modifications since there aren't so many manufacturer proprietary binaries and unusual dependencies. but sometimes on the kernel end they can upgrade sound and video drivers, or adjust parameters that effect battery life and things. my old captivate would go as much as 4 days to a charge becasue the gingerbread and even froyo development comunity on the i9000 was so good. the infuse i replaced that with never got that level of kernel support.
if you don't have an expressed need to root, like maybe for unlocking a feature the carriers took out such as teathering, or removing factory spyware like carrier iq (not that they do that anymore to my knowledge) or certain applications then rooting isn't really needed.

Installing New Roms

I recently purchased a photon Q, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. All went well until I tried installing a new ROM. I've tried installing both Carbon and CM11 but with no luck. Thankfully, I've been keeping backups of my stock ROM so I'm still able to restore the phone and use it.
I'm currently using cwm 6.0.1.3 , and I had been trying to install the new ROMs via rom manager. I'll try to get more error details up Friday as that's when I'll attempt to install the new roms.
I tried installing the latest nightlies for both CM11 and Carbon.
Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

CWM 6.0.1.3 doesn't support SELinux and so it doesn't support any KitKat ROMs (CM11 and newer).
Use TWRP or OR as a recovery.

I wondered if that was the problem. How would I go about putting twerp on my phone? Do any threads cover that? Would it cause an issue with CWM or would I have to get rid of that in order to install TWRP?
Thanks, by the way.

[email protected] said:
I wondered if that was the problem. How would I go about putting twerp on my phone? Do any threads cover that? Would it cause an issue with CWM or would I have to get rid of that in order to install TWRP?
Thanks, by the way.
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The TWRP page for the Photon Q goes over how to flash TWRP.
http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/137
Any recovery you flash will simply overwrite the previous one. Simply flashing TWRP as normal will just replace CWM.
Same with OpenRecovery, simply flashing OR over CWM will replace CWM with OR.
Let us know if you have questions. I like the fastboot method, but there was an app in the Play Store TWRP Manager - which I have never used, but should work fine.

Awesome! I replaced cwm with twrp last night. I'm going to try installing Carbon either tonight or tomorrow. Thanks a bunch for the help guys!

Well, it worked...sorta. i tried installing Carbon, but there seemed to be some kind of bug that didn't let the wifi turn on(along with some performance issues) and I have horrible reception at my place so that didn't get too far in setting up the phone.
So I installed the latest CM 11 snapshot and that's working great! Pretty awesome to be on the latest version of Android for a change!
Still want to try Carbon though, do they have more stable releases or do you just have to go out on faith with the nightlies?

[email protected] said:
Well, it worked...sorta. i tried installing Carbon, but there seemed to be some kind of bug that didn't let the wifi turn on(along with some performance issues) and I have horrible reception at my place so that didn't get too far in setting up the phone.
So I installed the latest CM 11 snapshot and that's working great! Pretty awesome to be on the latest version of Android for a change!
Still want to try Carbon though, do they have more stable releases or do you just have to go out on faith with the nightlies?
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I run Carbon as my daily driver, no problems.
Post in the thread if you have issues. As always, clean flash before reporting any.

I posted this in a couple other threads as well but since you guys are talking about it... do you think the Carbon is superior to the CM10/11/12 roms? I've found mine to be laggy lately. Maybe it always was I'm not sure.. lol but I was thinking of going to 10.2.1 .. someone on another thread said he did that and it was like having a different phone .. it was so fast.

Fever905 said:
I posted this in a couple other threads as well but since you guys are talking about it... do you think the Carbon is superior to the CM10/11/12 roms? I've found mine to be laggy lately. Maybe it always was I'm not sure.. lol but I was thinking of going to 10.2.1 .. someone on another thread said he did that and it was like having a different phone .. it was so fast.
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Please quit cross-posting. You are severely diluting any community effort to respond to you by posting the same question in so many threads...
Truth be told, YOU need to make the decision for yourself. Take a backup of your current setup and try something new, you have nothing to lose but some time. If you don't like it, restore the backup you took (please please take a backup IN RECOVERY before making any changes).

LOL sorry lets not kid ourselves. There are 4 active threads since May 24 in this sub category of the Photon Q. My intention was not to spam-post, however given the slow movement of the forum I posted in a few relevant threads in the thinking that those who were active would have subscribed and were maybe notified Sorry if I did a few too many... for tonite I probably have had a few too many Coronas (Cervesa Mas Fina!).
This device is in a production environment. There is not much room for any downtime on the device so I do not have that luxury of playing with it. All these Photon Q's I would think have the same specs so there must be a general consensus or benchmark'ed result as to which ROM offers best performance with the usability balanced. I do need more of these devices moving forward.
Funny thing, I live within 50 miles of Blackberry's campus and they have failed us yet again. Their passport phone is a little more reliable and less buggy than last years Q or Z models, however I'm still lacking a row of numbers and a dang home and back key. When are they gonna figure it out! Just using the gesture/swipe to get to the homescreen doesn't appeal to me. You can't give me a home button? Anyway #offtopic a little.. but is there no general consensus or are they so close its difficult to pick a winner?
/Fever

Have tried a number of ROM's carbon, PAC, Cmod, stock ICS, & JB.
Tried different flavours & unofficial versions.
I'm now happier than ever, running stripped JB - removed bloat ware & other obsolete APK's, plus added a few niceties using xposed framework.
Phone is fast - as in no slow downs & pauses, like I was getting with carbon & PAC, battery is unbelievably long life - using an xposed battery saver module, plus I added extended power menu options.
The main killer of all the other custom ROM's is the persistent Bluetooth error during calls. This is something that has been in the ROMs since Cmod wrote the first one, as all the other are built off of it.
If you don't require Bluetooth for calls, then go for it - personally I am finally happy with the JB stripped & tweaked stock.
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