SOOO lost -total N00B - Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus

Hello everyone,
Ive spend the last hour or so trying to find a basic step by step for me here, but so far nothing I can understand- Please pardon my ignorance...
Ok-
I have a fully STOCK galaxy tab 2 7.0 Plus:
-GT-P6210 (US model)
-4.0.4
-Kernel: 3.0.15
-Build: IMM76D.UELPC
I would like to get 4.1-4.2 running on here, but ideally- 4.1/2 running a stock(nexus like) ROM. I am def. not a fan of Samsungs interface as time has gone by, but seem to favor the nexus's (unless there is better?) . I know I need to root the device, and I am fine with that, along with all the risks that go with this (I killed a atrix a few years ago).
So, if someone could direct me to the proper link(s), or if your willing to help me a little (we can work something out PP/BTC) Id greatly appreciate it!
I have the ability, just have 0 teacher to show me the way. From what I understand some of the ROMs available here are great, and id really like to learn. I am a hardware guy for a living, swimming in this world of software is daunting at times...

There is no such thing as a Google / Nexus style ROM for this device. there are variants of CM 10 but that is custom CM, not Nexus UI.
In fact there is no such thing as a pure Google version of Android for any device. Google does not supply the kernel and device drivers so Google Android from Google source runs on none, nada, zero, devices out of the box. Each hardware vendor takes the base Android and adds their own parts to the kernel, adds device drivers and in Samsungs case some additional UI and frame work features (Touchwiz).
The CM 10 JB variants work ok, but some hardware features like the IR blaster will not work on those since the HW is Samsung specific. A better experience if you don;t like the TW launcher might be to install the stock Samsung JB 4.1.2 ROM and then install one of the nice third party launchers on the market to get a different UI look. The launcher is really the major visible difference between Nexus UI and Samsung. Apex, Nova, and Holo are 3 launchers that work well.

DigitalMD said:
There is no such thing as a Google / Nexus style ROM for this device. there are variants of CM 10 but that is custom CM, not Nexus UI.
In fact there is no such thing as a pure Google version of Android for any device. Google does not supply the kernel and device drivers so Google Android from Google source runs on none, nada, zero, devices out of the box. Each hardware vendor takes the base Android and adds their own parts to the kernel, adds device drivers and in Samsungs case some additional UI and frame work features (Touchwiz).
The CM 10 JB variants work ok, but some hardware features like the IR blaster will not work on those since the HW is Samsung specific. A better experience if you don;t like the TW launcher might be to install the stock Samsung JB 4.1.2 ROM and then install one of the nice third party launchers on the market to get a different UI look. The launcher is really the major visible difference between Nexus UI and Samsung. Apex, Nova, and Holo are 3 launchers that work well.
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Hello, and thank you for you reply!
That makes sense, regarding the Nexus/android ROM- again, please pardon my ignorance...
As for the IR blaster, i am not too concerned about loosing that function. I never really use it, and its never worked great anyway...
Id like to try a stock samsung 4.1/4.2 ROM, and try a 3rd party launcher, or even give the CM10 a go if the stock rom doesnt work. It is my understanding I will have to root the device before I can proceed anywhere. Is this a hard to do process, or pretty simple now a day (I would imagine)?
I again thank you for your help!

Grumbles said:
Hello, and thank you for you reply!
That makes sense, regarding the Nexus/android ROM- again, please pardon my ignorance...
As for the IR blaster, i am not too concerned about loosing that function. I never really use it, and its never worked great anyway...
Id like to try a stock samsung 4.1/4.2 ROM, and try a 3rd party launcher, or even give the CM10 a go if the stock rom doesnt work. It is my understanding I will have to root the device before I can proceed anywhere. Is this a hard to do process, or pretty simple now a day (I would imagine)?
I again thank you for your help!
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You can install JB without rooting , right over ICS. Using ODIN.
If you want to customize, Rooting is the starting point. Root and install a recovery module , CWMR or TWRP. Haven't had to install root in a few months, I'll have to look at the current threads to give you a recommendation on that.
One caution,install JB or install the custom recovery and root before you wipe anything on the ICS ROM . Samsung had a bug in the system wipe routine that can cause permanent damage to the memory. It is fixed in JB ROMs and also in the custom recovery software. Just be sure not to do a factory reset on ICS.
Here is a link to the Samsung JB 4.1.2 for P6210. Using ODIN you install this over your current Samsung ICS ROM. (NOTE: the only 4.1.2 P6210 Samsung release so far is a UK ROM and some people have reported Wifi issues due to this, but I run this one and have encountered no issues at all. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2278740
This appears to be the latest instruction for rooting JB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41800762&postcount=216
Once you perform the above, you can return to stock Samsung ICS later if you want, but that would most likely return you to factory stock and wipe your programs and settings, so be sure you know the consequences before you jump.

DigitalMD said:
Rooting is the starting point. Root and install a recovery module , CWMR or TWRP. Haven't had to install root in a few months, I'll have to look at the current threads to give you a recommendation on that.
One caution, install the custom recovery and root before you wipe anything on the ICS ROM . Samsung had a bug in the system wipe routine that can cause permanent damage to the memory. It is fixed in JB ROMs and also in the custom recovery software. Just be sure not to do a factory reset on ICS.
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Thank you, I will wait for your reply!
and thats huge on the reset, no joke- i was thinking of doing that before I start the root process!
Thank you much! I greatly appreciate it.

Grumbles said:
Thank you, I will wait for your reply!
and thats huge on the reset, no joke- i was thinking of doing that before I start the root process!
Thank you much! I greatly appreciate it.
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See my updated reply above.

Hello,
Thank you for all your help,
I am def. going to take the JB over ICS route, that would be fine by me!
ive downloaded Odin3, and in process of downloading the JB ROM, so yay! hopefully all will go smooth! I will keep you posted if I fry it, fail, or succeed!
Thanks again.

DigitalMD said:
See my updated reply above.
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I have one final question for you, or anyone out there running this same JB/ODIN process...
Will this, and if so how much, bog the performance of the tab itself? I notice that the tab even with ICS tends to be a little "jerky" going from menu to menu, etc... Is this because of my hardware, or lack of the "project butter" being part of the OS? (I think that was part of JB?)
If I were to have the wifi issues, would I be able to flash back?
Other than that, i am ready to hit the "Go" button!

Grumbles said:
I have one final question for you, or anyone out there running this same JB/ODIN process...
Will this, and if so how much, bog the performance of the tab itself? I notice that the tab even with ICS tends to be a little "jerky" going from menu to menu, etc... Is this because of my hardware, or lack of the "project butter" being part of the OS? (I think that was part of JB?)
If I were to have the wifi issues, would I be able to flash back?
Other than that, i am ready to hit the "Go" button!
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Why would this bog down the tablet?. JB is much smoother than ICS. That was one of Goggles goals in JB. However, some people expect PS4 like performance ..... ha...., all of these phones/tablets use cheap / low power processors. You get what you get, That being said, I am very happy with my P6210 on JB
You can always use ODIN to go back, but you will lose all your settings and installed apps when you do that.
The Wifi issues I have seen reported seem to be that some US Wifi channels do not show up. Not surprising, there are differences in the UK spectrum.

DigitalMD said:
Why would this bog down the tablet?. JB is much smoother than ICS. That was one of Goggles goals in JB. However, some people expect PS4 like performance ..... ha...., all of these phones/tablets use cheap / low power processors. You get what you get, That being said, I am very happy with my P6210 on JB
You can always use ODIN to go back, but you will lose all your settings and installed apps when you do that.
The Wifi issues I have seen reported seem to be that some US Wifi channels do not show up. Not surprising, there are differences in the UK spectrum.
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More just a thought about the S/W being much newer than the hardware. I most certainly do not expect superformance out the device, but more or less was making sure the hardware is up to the task. Would you rec. I do a backup of the system past the basic "app back n restore" app?

Grumbles said:
More just a thought about the S/W being much newer than the hardware. I most certainly do not expect superformance out the device, but more or less was making sure the hardware is up to the task. Would you rec. I do a backup of the system past the basic "app back n restore" app?
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When you install the JB over the Samsung ICS, your settings and apps should be retained. For all brands and ROM, You can backup and restore apps with something like Titanium Backup if you are rooted, but you should not restore data between ICS and JB using most backup apps. the storage areas are different and doing so will cause bad things to happen.

DigitalMD said:
When you install the JB over the Samsung ICS, your settings and apps should be retained. For all brands and ROM, You can backup and restore apps with something like Titanium Backup if you are rooted, but you should not restore data between ICS and JB using most backup apps. the storage areas are different and doing so will cause bad things to happen.
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Done n Done with success!
As you stated, everything held perfect and no issues on the wifi side of things. This OS really made a good difference on the tab as a whole, feels more complete.
I thank you again for all your help!!!!!!!!
What would be a reason to "root" this tablet other than being able to run custom ROMs and maybe be able to off load some bloatware? I feel like I am missing out on what is possible with android and really should get on the bandwagon.

Grumbles said:
Done n Done with success!
As you stated, everything held perfect and no issues on the wifi side of things. This OS really made a good difference on the tab as a whole, feels more complete.
I thank you again for all your help!!!!!!!!
What would be a reason to "root" this tablet other than being able to run custom ROMs and maybe be able to off load some bloatware? I feel like I am missing out on what is possible with android and really should get on the bandwagon.
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For this tablet I don't feel that any of the current custom ROMs offer any advantages or features over the stock setup. I keep it rooted in case I want to drop in a custom startup screen or backup things. Other than that, there is really no good reason to root for the tablet.
Hopefully some of the developers will update to JB and add some of the Note 2 or S4 features soon though.

DigitalMD said:
For this tablet I don't feel that any of the current custom ROMs offer any advantages or features over the stock setup. I keep it rooted in case I want to drop in a custom startup screen or backup things. Other than that, there is really no good reason to root for the tablet.
Hopefully some of the developers will update to JB and add some of the Note 2 or S4 features soon though.
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I hear ya there,
What a big difference this has made! thank you!!!

Grumbles said:
I hear ya there,
What a big difference this has made! thank you!!!
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Welcome of course.
Keep paddling, we are all in this together

Related

[Q] stock rom identification for galaxy s2 ?

Hi Guys.
I've flashed my Galaxy S2 with ICS Resurrection 1.0 ROM and realized that it is not exactly what I was looking for.
I have multiple problems with the phone - sometimes I need to reboot it few times every day as it is loosing 3g, no gps, apps force to close..
I'd love to go back to factory UK Generic Gingerbread Stock ROM. I didn't take a note of the original ROM that was there before.
There is loadz of ROMs available for download and I don't want to brick it...
Is there any way how I can actually identify which ROM is right for my phone?
By IMEI, SSN...?
Thanks a million for your help!
I've had problems with Simplistic ROM too (Email, Exchange Services and Messaging apps keep crashing), and I can't even post in the thread until I get 10 posts lol!
Think you may have to keep with stock but go for ICS, not sure if it's possible to go back to Gingerbread?
BopNiblets said:
I've had problems with Simplistic ROM too (Email, Exchange Services and Messaging apps keep crashing), and I can't even post in the thread until I get 10 posts lol!
Think you may have to keep with stock but go for ICS, not sure if it's possible to go back to Gingerbread?
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Hi there!
I'm sure I can go back to Gingerbread. The only thing is that I'm not sure about the firmware. Will any generic UK S2 ROM do the job or maybe it has to meet some hardware revision requirements?

[Q] Official Rom VS CM Rom?

Hi, I have a question. I want to know which one is better. Official rom or Cm10 rom ?
isn't any body to help me?
That depends on how you use your tablet. For most uses the stock ROM is what you want. It generally offers a more stable experience, but some of the extra features of Cyanogen may make it worth it.
One of the main reasons I use Cyanogen is to have a mostly AOSP system and remove manufacturer skins like Sense and TouchWiz. On the TF300 this isn't much of an issue as it's 90% vanilla android anyway. ASUS added a custom notification menu (that can be disabled to use the standard Android tablet menu), a custom control panel ("ASUS Customized Settings"), and several apps. Not much else.
CM10 also has a number of added features. A fairly big one is the theme manager which lets you skin the device, and there's a large number of added settings for customization. It also gives you root access and allows for overclocking, which are common features power users may want.
The best advice I can give: If you want the device to "just work", stick with stock. If the added CM10 features are enough to make you want to switch, give it a try. Just know that there's a lot of reading you need to do to install it without bricking your device.
Note that on the TF300 you cannot run CM10 if your device already the 4.1 Jellybean update. Also note that, if you're running ICS, you must unlock the device to install CM10, which voids your warranty and may not be something you really want to do.
timothyb89 said:
That depends on how you use your tablet. For most uses the stock ROM is what you want. It generally offers a more stable experience, but some of the extra features of Cyanogen may make it worth it.
One of the main reasons I use Cyanogen is to have a mostly AOSP system and remove manufacturer skins like Sense and TouchWiz. On the TF300 this isn't much of an issue as it's 90% vanilla android anyway. ASUS added a custom notification menu (that can be disabled to use the standard Android tablet menu), a custom control panel ("ASUS Customized Settings"), and several apps. Not much else.
CM10 also has a number of added features. A fairly big one is the theme manager which lets you skin the device, and there's a large number of added settings for customization. It also gives you root access and allows for overclocking, which are common features power users may want.
The best advice I can give: If you want the device to "just work", stick with stock. If the added CM10 features are enough to make you want to switch, give it a try. Just know that there's a lot of reading you need to do to install it without bricking your device.
Note that on the TF300 you cannot run CM10 if your device already the 4.1 Jellybean update. Also note that, if you're running ICS, you must unlock the device to install CM10, which voids your warranty and may not be something you really want to do.
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thanks, so u said i can't install it over the stock rom? so, what should i do to have cm10? i already have unlocked, rooted, and touch recovery 6
elastiboy said:
thanks, so u said i can't install it over the stock rom? so, what should i do to have cm10? i already have unlocked, rooted, and touch recovery 6
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As timothyb89 mentioned - If you updated to Asus official JB you can't have CM10, not yet - but xplowild is working on it, give it some time.
Installed OC Rom last night and was really satisfied with it, so I can strongly recommend that for you, if you are on JB bootloader.
In my opinion a Custom ROM is much smoother and faster than the stock rom, and the extra features is always a bonus
Fancy Pants said:
As timothyb89 mentioned - If you updated to Asus official JB you can't have CM10, not yet - but xplowild is working on it, give it some time.
Installed OC Rom last night and was really satisfied with it, so I can strongly recommend that for you, if you are on JB bootloader.
In my opinion a Custom ROM is much smoother and faster than the stock rom, and the extra features is always a bonus
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thanks, so what about another custom rom? such as blackbean?
Blackbean is one choice. Though it's appears to be based on CM so it probably won't run on the Jellybean bootloader quite yet.
A quick list of stock-based ROMs you could use arranged roughly in order of their popularity:
Hydro (Jellybean)
CleanROM - this is what I'm running right now
[email protected]
The Ultra Fast ROM
I personally like CleanROM as it seems to be more stable than the others I tried (mainly stock and Hydro). I had serious issues with random reboots, freezing, and WiFi death, and for the most part those are resolved in CleanROM. Your mileage may vary.
i installed clean rom, so can i i install cm10 rom?

[Q] JB vs KK in terms of Smoothness?

When I was running JB on my N8010 I noticed that when I wanted to scroll through the images in an Album using the Gallery app I could scroll through nearly 470 images with just one swipe unlike KK which takes about 3 or 4 swipes to get to the end of the 470 images. So frustrating was this lack of smoothness when scrolling through images or even long documents I've reverted back to JB.
I couldn't understand why JB was so much smoother in terms of scrolling through images in the Gallery app compared to KK. Maybe the experts on these forums could shed some light or is it just a quirk of my particular N8010.
Thanks
schrodinger56 said:
When I was running JB on my N8010 I noticed that when I wanted to scroll through the images in an Album using the Gallery app I could scroll through nearly 470 images with just one swipe unlike KK which takes about 3 or 4 swipes to get to the end of the 470 images. So frustrating was this lack of smoothness when scrolling through images or even long documents I've reverted back to JB.
I couldn't understand why JB was so much smoother in terms of scrolling through images in the Gallery app compared to KK. Maybe the experts on these forums could shed some light or is it just a quirk of my particular N8010.
Thanks
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At some point upgrades will slow your system. Like upgrading a windows 95 class machine to windows 7.
shaun298 said:
At some point upgrades will slow your system. Like upgrading a windows 95 class machine to windows 7.
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Thanks. Would it be fair to say then that even though the N8010 will run on KK the N8010 wasn't really designed for KK and consequently runs smoother on either ICS or JB?
schrodinger56 said:
Thanks. Would it be fair to say then that even though the N8010 will run on KK the N8010 wasn't really designed for KK and consequently runs smoother on either ICS or JB?
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No it wouldnt... It is, however, fair to say that the samsung aka TouchWiz overlay installed on top of the KK update is by far ready. If you install KK Aosp (Pure Android) you would see how seemless and fluid KK really is supposed to run. That in turn would make you want to take a flame thrower to the devs at samsung and demand progress.. lol :highfive:
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No it wouldnt... It is, however, fair to say that the samsung aka TouchWiz overlay installed on top of the KK update is by far ready. If you install KK Aosp (Pure Android) you would see how seemless and fluid KK really is supposed to run. That in turn would make you want to take a flame thrower to the devs at samsung and demand progress.. lol :highfive:
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Is it possible to install this KK Asop over a version of JB? If so where are do I find it?
Thanks.
schrodinger56 said:
Is it possible to install this KK Asop over a version of JB? If so where are do I find it?
Thanks.
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Yes sir, it is very possible.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665093
Silky smooth and beautiful as ever...
Disclaimer:
Please please please.... Follow the instructions to the letter... I nor the porter are responsible for what you do to your device...
z31k said:
Yes sir, it is very possible.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665093
Silky smooth and beautiful as ever...
Disclaimer:
Please please please.... Follow the instructions to the letter... I nor the porter are responsible for what you do to your device...
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Thank you. I tried this way Here but to no avail as every time I tried to flash the Omni Rom I got a fail. Also for some strange reason TWRP insisted that there were 6 zip files in the folder where I had originally stored the 3 zip files that were required!!
Also the method you suggest above applies to the N8000 not the N8010, does that matter?
schrodinger56 said:
Thank you. I tried this way Here but to no avail as every time I tried to flash the Omni Rom I got a fail. Also for some strange reason TWRP insisted that there were 6 zip files in the folder where I had originally stored the 3 zip files that were required!!
Also the method you suggest above applies to the N8000 not the N8010, does that matter?
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You must use recovery that supports SELinux as stated per instructions..
https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZuNwZ2QmHk9oHPdfrJFM5IWj1dufOGLok
Link is here...
I've now loaded the correct version of TWRP but TWRP doesn't see any of the zip files I've placed on the external SD Card!! :crying:
I don't think I'm meant to do this!!
Also does the ROM for the N8000 given in your link above work on the N8010?
Thanks very much again for your help.
schrodinger56 said:
I've now loaded the correct version of TWRP but TWRP doesn't see any of the zip files I've placed on the external SD Card!! :crying:
I don't think I'm meant to do this!!
Also does the ROM for the N8000 given in your link above work on the N8010?
Thanks very much again for your help.
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That's my fault, I was under the impression you had the n8000... Iofthestorm does it for the n8010 I believe.. Check his thread.
z31k said:
That's my fault, I was under the impression you had the n8000... Iofthestorm does it for the n8010 I believe.. Check his thread.
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I managed to install the OMNI Rom with the latest nightly and am going through it now. I take it that this particular Rom doesn't support the S-Pen?
Thanks
shaun298 said:
At some point upgrades will slow your system. Like upgrading a windows 95 class machine to windows 7.
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That's not always true in all cases. What causes your system to slow down is:
1. Installing an OS not optimize for your computer. You can't expect a pc designed for Windows 95 to run Windows 7. In the case of the note 10.1, kitkat has lower system requirements than ice cream sandwich, so in theory it should run fine on the note 10.1.
2. Conflicting files may be slowing down your system. Sometimes upgrading will leave behind unnecessary files that slow down your system. You need a decent amount of space for most operating system to run smoothly.
That being said, I believe touchwiz is at fault here. The interface and apps are very bloated. Samsung tried to put in everything they could think of, but at the cost of efficiency. I have recently switched over to cyanogenmod 11 (kitkat 4.4.4) and I have notice that my note has performed far better then before. Where the tablet used to stutter now is running buttery smooth. The official kitkat build of Samsung compared to the ice cream sandwich build showed very little performance changed when I was using it.
Its not like tableta cant get updated due to lack of resourcea, ita more like deva dont have official versions of the roms. I updated my n8013 to 4.4.4 using omni and was ubersmooth, gnabk rom was also fast and reaponsive but the video streaming lagged like hell
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Other than the official ROMS like ICS, JB and KK are there any other ROMS for the N8010 out there that also incorporate the functionality of the S-Pen. I use the S-Pen a lot so loosing it would be a serious loss. The only one I've heard of is the Gnabo ROM.
Thanks.
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That's not always true in all cases. What causes your system to slow down is:
1. Installing an OS not optimize for your computer. You can't expect a pc designed for Windows 95 to run Windows 7. In the case of the note 10.1, kitkat has lower system requirements than ice cream sandwich, so in theory it should run fine on the note 10.1.
2. Conflicting files may be slowing down your system. Sometimes upgrading will leave behind unnecessary files that slow down your system. You need a decent amount of space for most operating system to run smoothly.
That being said, I believe touchwiz is at fault here. The interface and apps are very bloated. Samsung tried to put in everything they could think of, but at the cost of efficiency. I have recently switched over to cyanogenmod 11 (kitkat 4.4.4) and I have notice that my note has performed far better then before. Where the tablet used to stutter now is running buttery smooth. The official kitkat build of Samsung compared to the ice cream sandwich build showed very little performance changed when I was using it.
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what I said was is 100% correct for 100% of what I said it for. Read it again real slow. What you wrote is also 100% correct.
shaun298 said:
what I said was is 100% correct for 100% of what I said it for. Read it again real slow. What you wrote is also 100% correct.
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There is no need for rudeness here. You said upgrading from Windows 95 to Windows 7 will make your computer slow, but it really depends on your hardware. What you stated is true for most old computers, but it doesn't apply to what the OP of this thread is discussing.

Installing New Roms

I recently purchased a photon Q, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. All went well until I tried installing a new ROM. I've tried installing both Carbon and CM11 but with no luck. Thankfully, I've been keeping backups of my stock ROM so I'm still able to restore the phone and use it.
I'm currently using cwm 6.0.1.3 , and I had been trying to install the new ROMs via rom manager. I'll try to get more error details up Friday as that's when I'll attempt to install the new roms.
I tried installing the latest nightlies for both CM11 and Carbon.
Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
CWM 6.0.1.3 doesn't support SELinux and so it doesn't support any KitKat ROMs (CM11 and newer).
Use TWRP or OR as a recovery.
I wondered if that was the problem. How would I go about putting twerp on my phone? Do any threads cover that? Would it cause an issue with CWM or would I have to get rid of that in order to install TWRP?
Thanks, by the way.
[email protected] said:
I wondered if that was the problem. How would I go about putting twerp on my phone? Do any threads cover that? Would it cause an issue with CWM or would I have to get rid of that in order to install TWRP?
Thanks, by the way.
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The TWRP page for the Photon Q goes over how to flash TWRP.
http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/137
Any recovery you flash will simply overwrite the previous one. Simply flashing TWRP as normal will just replace CWM.
Same with OpenRecovery, simply flashing OR over CWM will replace CWM with OR.
Let us know if you have questions. I like the fastboot method, but there was an app in the Play Store TWRP Manager - which I have never used, but should work fine.
Awesome! I replaced cwm with twrp last night. I'm going to try installing Carbon either tonight or tomorrow. Thanks a bunch for the help guys!
Well, it worked...sorta. i tried installing Carbon, but there seemed to be some kind of bug that didn't let the wifi turn on(along with some performance issues) and I have horrible reception at my place so that didn't get too far in setting up the phone.
So I installed the latest CM 11 snapshot and that's working great! Pretty awesome to be on the latest version of Android for a change!
Still want to try Carbon though, do they have more stable releases or do you just have to go out on faith with the nightlies?
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Well, it worked...sorta. i tried installing Carbon, but there seemed to be some kind of bug that didn't let the wifi turn on(along with some performance issues) and I have horrible reception at my place so that didn't get too far in setting up the phone.
So I installed the latest CM 11 snapshot and that's working great! Pretty awesome to be on the latest version of Android for a change!
Still want to try Carbon though, do they have more stable releases or do you just have to go out on faith with the nightlies?
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I run Carbon as my daily driver, no problems.
Post in the thread if you have issues. As always, clean flash before reporting any.
I posted this in a couple other threads as well but since you guys are talking about it... do you think the Carbon is superior to the CM10/11/12 roms? I've found mine to be laggy lately. Maybe it always was I'm not sure.. lol but I was thinking of going to 10.2.1 .. someone on another thread said he did that and it was like having a different phone .. it was so fast.
Fever905 said:
I posted this in a couple other threads as well but since you guys are talking about it... do you think the Carbon is superior to the CM10/11/12 roms? I've found mine to be laggy lately. Maybe it always was I'm not sure.. lol but I was thinking of going to 10.2.1 .. someone on another thread said he did that and it was like having a different phone .. it was so fast.
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Please quit cross-posting. You are severely diluting any community effort to respond to you by posting the same question in so many threads...
Truth be told, YOU need to make the decision for yourself. Take a backup of your current setup and try something new, you have nothing to lose but some time. If you don't like it, restore the backup you took (please please take a backup IN RECOVERY before making any changes).
LOL sorry lets not kid ourselves. There are 4 active threads since May 24 in this sub category of the Photon Q. My intention was not to spam-post, however given the slow movement of the forum I posted in a few relevant threads in the thinking that those who were active would have subscribed and were maybe notified Sorry if I did a few too many... for tonite I probably have had a few too many Coronas (Cervesa Mas Fina!).
This device is in a production environment. There is not much room for any downtime on the device so I do not have that luxury of playing with it. All these Photon Q's I would think have the same specs so there must be a general consensus or benchmark'ed result as to which ROM offers best performance with the usability balanced. I do need more of these devices moving forward.
Funny thing, I live within 50 miles of Blackberry's campus and they have failed us yet again. Their passport phone is a little more reliable and less buggy than last years Q or Z models, however I'm still lacking a row of numbers and a dang home and back key. When are they gonna figure it out! Just using the gesture/swipe to get to the homescreen doesn't appeal to me. You can't give me a home button? Anyway #offtopic a little.. but is there no general consensus or are they so close its difficult to pick a winner?
/Fever
Have tried a number of ROM's carbon, PAC, Cmod, stock ICS, & JB.
Tried different flavours & unofficial versions.
I'm now happier than ever, running stripped JB - removed bloat ware & other obsolete APK's, plus added a few niceties using xposed framework.
Phone is fast - as in no slow downs & pauses, like I was getting with carbon & PAC, battery is unbelievably long life - using an xposed battery saver module, plus I added extended power menu options.
The main killer of all the other custom ROM's is the persistent Bluetooth error during calls. This is something that has been in the ROMs since Cmod wrote the first one, as all the other are built off of it.
If you don't require Bluetooth for calls, then go for it - personally I am finally happy with the JB stripped & tweaked stock.
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[Q] Custom ROM Suggestions?

I have the 2012 version (N8013) stock ROM, current Android (4.1.2). Non-rooted.
I just bought an Amazon Fire Stick which supports Miracast. Sadly, 4.1.2 does not. So, I'm looking for a custom ROM that (in order of importance):
Supports Miracast
Is highly stable
Has performance improvements
Has new, cool features/functionality
Is reasonably customizable
Really, only the first 2 are critical. The remaining 3 are just nice to haves.
I did do some searching but could not tell which ones supported Miracast.
I know ROMs are highly personal, so it's hard to make a recommendation, but if you could maybe offer some suggestions for me to consider, based on the above, it would be highly appreciated.
(I did install a custom ROM on my Galaxy S2 a while back, so I'm not completely new at it, but it's been a while and I only did the one, so I'm only slightly above a noob on this.)
Thanks for your help!
K,
hi, you might want to consider a custom rom which stays with stock standards. In that case go for gnabo just skip the bootloader
portion.
That's what i did for my n8013 and gnabo did fine.
 @nerdyblonde ' beanstalk rom runs well bit i don't know about m-cast as i don't use it. the rom is not supported anymore
by way of updates but i run it as my daily driver and will for some time. bluetooth and wifi direct seem to function well
though i use additional apps for that. i''ve neveer tested the ir blaster so.. [shrug] dunno :silly:
don't forget to make a backup !
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...which stays with stock standards. In that case go for gnabo just skip the bootloader
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What does it mean when a ROM sticks with stock standards? And, what does a bootloader do (and why can I skip it)?
Thanks again!
Kallen said:
What does it mean when a ROM sticks with stock standards? And, what does a bootloader do (and why can I skip it)?
Thanks again!
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hi,
i just mean gnabo is basically a custom stock rom.
so hardware issues will be minimal if not null.
skip the bootloader.
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