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Given the fact that Samsung rolled out all the Snapdragon s7 and s7e with locked bootloaders, I have little to no hope for the note 7. What do you guys think about its chances of coming with an unlocked bootloader?
Critical Detox said:
Given the fact that Samsung rolled out all the Snapdragon s7 and s7e with locked bootloaders, I have little to no hope for the note 7. What do you guys think about its chances of coming with an unlocked bootloader?
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All the future samsung usa phones which are branded tmobile, at&t, sprint and verizon will have locked bootloaders
If you want a rooted samsung phone in the future you will all need to buy the international models.
Thats why I purchased the S7 EDGE G935F international model a few weeks ago. All the international samsung phones are very easily rooted and none of them have locked bootloaders.
And to top it off all the samsung international phone models come sim unlocked .
Good luck.
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I wonder how pricy will the Note 7 be.
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Critical Detox said:
Given the fact that Samsung rolled out all the Snapdragon s7 and s7e with locked bootloaders, I have little to no hope for the note 7. What do you guys think about its chances of coming with an unlocked bootloader?
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I think chances are zero
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My main concern for it is im a huge Viper supporter, and If can't root and get Viper on that device....That device is dead to me. I'm hoping some miracle comes through and we get the Samsung device we all want AND an unlocked bootloader.
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Misterjunky said:
All the future samsung usa phones which are branded tmobile, at&t, sprint and verizon will have locked bootloaders
If you want a rooted samsung phone in the future you will all need to buy the international models.
Thats why I purchased the S7 EDGE G935F international model a few weeks ago. All the international samsung phones are very easily rooted and none of them have locked bootloaders.
And to top it off all the samsung international phone models come sim unlocked .
Good luck.
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Root has been achieved for the s7 and edge on ATT and Tmobile. May want to word your answers in such a way that they dont seem like absolutes.
Also every international model of every phone comes sim unlocked. Thats why there is a category for unlocked phones.
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I saw that a few days ago, maybe In due time they'll get the bootloader unlocked too.
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pcriz said:
Root has been achieved for the s7 and edge on ATT and Tmobile. May want to word your answers in such a way that they dont seem like absolutes.
Also every international model of every phone comes sim unlocked. Thats why there is a category for unlocked phones.
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That's awesome news! Do you know if they posted the root procedures for Tmobile S7 on XDA? I haven't seen them yet.
tribleten said:
That's awesome news! Do you know if they posted the root procedures for Tmobile S7 on XDA? I haven't seen them yet.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragons7variantsrooted-blog-19194.php
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http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragons7variantsrooted-blog-19194.php
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Oh ok...seems like a few people are having issues with that method (as most new root methods), but it's definitely a start in the right direction.
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Oh ok...seems like a few people are having issues with that method (as most new root methods), but it's definitely a start in the right direction.
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I've seen both sides on it, some got issues and some are reporting that everything is okay. Another interesting aspect is people reporting this doesnt trip knox, while being rooted samsung pay doesnt work but when they revert knox still shows 0x0.
pcriz said:
I've seen both sides on it, some got issues and some are reporting that everything is okay. Another interesting aspect is people reporting this doesnt trip knox, while being rooted samsung pay doesnt work but when they revert knox still shows 0x0.
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They my understanding is knox remains 0x0 because it uses a repair kernel
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Crazy how there is not much talk about the Note 7 with it only about 2 weeks away. I am really mixed about getting it still since I know it is going to be locked. The only thing that is really holding me back at this point is not being able to use Viper. There are a couple of other things that would be nice to still be able to do but those aren't major. Android has come a long way and the need for a custom rom just isn't what it used to be. I really like the Note line and prefer to stay with it so I may just bit the bullet and go without root. Whether I get it at launch will also depend on the special offers they are giving out. I got the Year of Netflix and free VR with the S7 Edge before I returned it so if they have a simular offer, I will probably jump on it.
chipworkz said:
Crazy how there is not much talk about the Note 7 with it only about 2 weeks away. I am really mixed about getting it still since I know it is going to be locked. The only thing that is really holding me back at this point is not being able to use Viper. There are a couple of other things that would be nice to still be able to do but those aren't major. Android has come a long way and the need for a custom rom just isn't what it used to be. I really like the Note line and prefer to stay with it so I may just bit the bullet and go without root. Whether I get it at launch will also depend on the special offers they are giving out. I got the Year of Netflix and free VR with the S7 Edge before I returned it so if they have a simular offer, I will probably jump on it.
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I was just thinking this same thing...i own my note 5 outright so i may just trade it in if there's a good deal...progress has been made with root on the s7's so I'm hopeful similar leaps are made...nonetheless, i have to say, my girls note 5 is bone stock unrooted and with few exceptions there's little that can't be done...for her nothing, and for me, well, I'm just finally learning to develop on Linux so i definitely want to keep SOME rootable device in my stable as well, but that's might end up meaning a second device (next nexus?) and swapping my sim around smh...it's just that usb3.0, ip68, 256gb storage and 6gb ram PLUS a true edge screen is almost too much to resist, root or not, plus there's always samsung pay while it's still 0x0...i see myself getting it, only question is when and will i also spent flagship money on a second device (OP3? nexus? Htc?- pretty much all are sd820...) until a good root method or unlocked bootloader becomes a reality....
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Rx8Driver said:
I was just thinking this same thing...i own my note 5 outright so i may just trade it in if there's a good deal...
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This is what will break me, some awesome deal with two phones, VR, and what not.
Probably gonna go with that blue if i do buy.
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I'm always with 2 phones, 1 is usually a nexus device, the note series have been my go to though. I'll likely get the N7 and do what I can do to it with in the confines of no super user. Nexus devices are so cheap, you can always pick up one for around $200, excluding the 6p. The devs here on XDA are top notch, so I'm always confident they'll come up with something.
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I'm always with 2 phones, 1 is usually a nexus device, the note series have been my go to though. I'll likely get the N7 and do what I can do to it with in the confines of no super user. Nexus devices are so cheap, you can always pick up one for around $200, excluding the 6p. The devs here on XDA are top notch, so I'm always confident they'll come up with something.
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Well a locked bootloader is a locked bootloader in most cases. The s7 exploit is really just a Samsung repair kernel that was leaked that's really not fit for prime time, unfortunately...
And even that is still limited in no custom recovery or roms, just stock debloat, xposed, viper/etc...
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it's even worse now lol
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...oid-7-0-wont-let-phone-boot-software-corrupt/
i will no longer buying any samsung phones. my note 5 has been on the top for 2 months now
no good roms to try
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Misterjunky said:
All the future samsung usa phones which are branded tmobile, at&t, sprint and verizon will have locked bootloaders
If you want a rooted samsung phone in the future you will all need to buy the international models.
Thats why I purchased the S7 EDGE G935F international model a few weeks ago. All the international samsung phones are very easily rooted and none of them have locked bootloaders.
And to top it off all the samsung international phone models come sim unlocked .
Good luck.
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sadly, you can't have aosp because of xynos therefore useless to me
TheUndertaker21 said:
it's even worse now lol
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...oid-7-0-wont-let-phone-boot-software-corrupt/
i will no longer buying any samsung phones. my note 5 has been on the top for 2 months now
no good roms to try
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sadly, you can't have aosp because of xynos therefore useless to me
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I wouldn't say can't, it can in fact happen and has. It just isn't easy. There are snapdragon devices that never got stable CM builds. Just in the case with the exynos, the odds aren't in their favor.
If I do get the Note 7, which I probably will, it will be with the knowledge that if most likely will never be unlocked. I have been running pure stock and not even rooted for a couple weeks now to see how unrooted life is. I have been rooted and running a custom rom for several years now. Like I said before, there are some cool features in custom roms but the need for them just isn't what it used to be. The only thing I am truly missing is Viper. So for me it comes down to the simple question of which is more important. What is more important, all of the new features of the new phone or the ability to use Viper.
I swore I wouldn't buy a locked phone and would move to the Nexus line but based on the rumors of the next Nexus phones, I am not thrilled with them. I just don't see anything that I would rather move to over the Note 7 based on what we know so far. That along with the fact that I am on the original Jump program so without needing to buy the phone outright, I need to pick from T-Mobiles selections.
A lot of the reasons to have root can be accomplished with apps so life without root isn't a huge deal for me anymore. I just wish there was a Viper alternative that can be used without root. Anyone know of one?
Not much activity here, but a lot more than for the current phone I have which is the original Samsung Galaxy Nexus. I'm thinking about getting the S6, but wondered if developers have abandoned this phone yet? If not, what ROM is the most often updated and which do you recommend?
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Not much activity here, but a lot more than for the current phone I have which is the original Samsung Galaxy Nexus. I'm thinking about getting the S6, but wondered if developers have abandoned this phone yet? If not, what ROM is the most often updated and which do you recommend?
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Since you posted here in the Verizon section i'll assume your talking about the Verizon S6. DO NOT GET THAT PHONE. You will hate yourself like me and good portion of us for getting it. Every major carrier has root except for verizon on this phone, complete and utter horse. ****. Spare yourself and get a nexus 6 or even the s7 which has root now. But this phone fell flat and devs moved on, only a few remain.
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Since you posted here in the Verizon section i'll assume your talking about the Verizon S6. DO NOT GET THAT PHONE. You will hate yourself like me and good portion of us for getting it. Every major carrier has root except for verizon on this phone, complete and utter horse. ****. Spare yourself and get a nexus 6 or even the s7 which has root now. But this phone fell flat and devs moved on, only a few remain.
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Wow no kidding?!?!?!?!? Thanks so much. That's a real surprise.
Ah looking to spend no more than $320 for a phone. Not going to be shelling out $400+ anymore. Any other suggestions?
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Ah looking to spend no more than $320 for a phone. Not going to be shelling out $400+ anymore. Any other suggestions?
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Nexus 6
If you can find a Nexus 6p or if that's too big or expensive, a Nexus 5x. But I also heard good things about ZTE Axon 7
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Get a nexus.
I'm waiting for the new Nexus phones to come out. Never again will I do Samsung.
Thanks everyone. The samsung galaxy nexus 5 just arrived today. Picked it up for $150
I can't find any information on this, also a Samsung rep in a phone shop couldn't answer (the demo phone was actually running Android 6).
Anyone know?
Philio25 said:
the demo phone was actually running Android 6
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Impossible.
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Impossible.
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That's what the rep said, but either way it's irrelevant to the question.
The rep had to have been wrong, and I'm sure it won't have seamless updates. You'll get Android O like 3 months before the S9 comes out...
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The rep had to have been wrong, and I'm sure it won't have seamless updates. You'll get Android O like 3 months before the S9 comes out...
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Damn, is Samsung that bad? (Been using Nexus/Pixel for years, but slightly tempted by the S8 hardware)
Philio25 said:
Damn, is Samsung that bad? (Been using Nexus/Pixel for years, but slightly tempted by the S8 hardware)
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The s7 just got nougat last month, a whole year after the first dev preview came out.
Don't count on it. Never happens with Samsung
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Why rooting and unlock bootloader is desired, it extends the life of the device!
peachpuff said:
The s7 just got nougat last month, a whole year after the first dev preview came out.
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Luckily this is XDA though, the home of custom ROMs and Android development. Unless you're in the US with a locked bootloader, we have updates quicker and for longer than Samsung will provide for us. Extending the life of the phone. That's less the case than it used to be but still a boon. I swap phones every year though so it's not an issue for me personally.
No, it's a Samsung / Android phone.
you made me spit coffee
CConn882 said:
The rep had to have been wrong, and I'm sure it won't have seamless updates. You'll get Android O like 3 months before the S9 comes out...
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Because it's so true.
Greetings;
I'm almost convinced to sell my Sammy S8+ and buying an HTC U11!
What I need to know is this: is there an advantage to get a specific variant
over another as far as the "Rom/Kernel Development" goes?
I live in Canada but can also import one or even get a "US unlocked" unit.
Thank you.
samteeee said:
Greetings;
I'm almost convinced to sell my Sammy S8+ and buying an HTC U11!
What I need to know is this: is there an advantage to get a specific variant
over another as far as the "Rom/Kernel Development" goes?
I live in Canada but can also import one or even get a "US unlocked" unit.
Thank you.
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Well, those of us who have been with HTC since the beginning of time welcome you with open arms... but before that, there's a few things we have to go over on our "Are-You-Worthy-Of-The-HTC-Phone-Checklist"
1. Do you constantly wish you could change your phone to fit your needs (you're that guy that always has something unique or flashy on their phone)?
2. Are you a nerd, geek or maybe have high aspirations to be either (Blessed are the nerds, for they shall inherit the earth)?
3. Are you a selfless, confident guy who values quality and uniqueness over useless features?
4. Do you promise to remain faithful, year after year, even if HTC fails to produce devices worthy of your C.H.C (cold hard cash)?
If so, then I recommend going after the regular Unlocked HTC U11 (US version). International version from my experience though comes with dual sims, take longer to get updates and other critical software improvements.
Ditch Sammy and grab the HTC. You might even find yourself with a sexy nerdy chick on your arm! :good:
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Well, those of us who have been with HTC since the beginning of time welcome you with open arms... but before that, there's a few things we have to go over on our "Are-You-Worthy-Of-The-HTC-Phone-Checklist"
If so, then I recommend going after the regular Unlocked HTC U11 (US version). International version from my experience though comes with dual sims, take longer to get updates and other critical software improvements.
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I've got the U.S. unlocked version and it has 2 sims or it can be used with 1 sim and an sdcard.
My suggestion is get the 6GB/128GB unlocked version ... this way you can use both simslots if you need to and still have more than enough storage. :laugh:
samteeee said:
Greetings;
I'm almost convinced to sell my Sammy S8+ and buying an HTC U11!
What I need to know is this: is there an advantage to get a specific variant
over another as far as the "Rom/Kernel Development" goes?
I live in Canada but can also import one or even get a "US unlocked" unit.
Thank you.
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Get the exynos version if you care about root , otherwise stick with a Canadian version. Never know if Samsung falls back to how they treated the unlocked USA Gs7/edge lineup
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htc fan89 said:
Get the exynos version if you care about root , otherwise stick with a Canadian version. Never know if Samsung falls back to how they treated the unlocked USA Gs7/edge lineup
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Thank you for replying.
I have the "Exynos" Sim-Free UK. My coming over t HTC is not just to gain root !
Splaya said:
Well, those of us who have been with HTC since the beginning of time welcome you with open arms... but before that, there's a few things we have to go over on our "Are-You-Worthy-Of-The-HTC-Phone-Checklist"
1. Do you constantly wish you could change your phone to fit your needs (you're that guy that always has something unique or flashy on their phone)?
2. Are you a nerd, geek or maybe have high aspirations to be either (Blessed are the nerds, for they shall inherit the earth)?
3. Are you a selfless, confident guy who values quality and uniqueness over useless features?
4. Do you promise to remain faithful, year after year, even if HTC fails to produce devices worthy of your C.H.C (cold hard cash)?
If so, then I recommend going after the regular Unlocked HTC U11 (US version). International version from my experience though comes with dual sims, take longer to get updates and other critical software improvements.
Ditch Sammy and grab the HTC. You might even find yourself with a sexy nerdy chick on your arm! :good:
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lol.
No
Yes
Definitely
I'll promise, lol.
But in all seriousness I miss smooth UI and great performance that is not hindered by laggy software. And great development as well.
Otherwise the GS8+ design is in my opinion one of the best, if not the best.
Thank you.
I went to get S8 today, all S8 and S8+ devices there had burned in displays, it's also weird that Samsung store has on display devices looking like that. No way i'm getting AMOLED phone again until they improve that. Now i'm looking at U11.
Dejan Kruljac said:
I went to get S8 today, all S8 and S8+ devices there had burned in displays, it's also weird that Samsung store has on display devices looking like that. No way i'm getting AMOLED phone again until they improve that. Now i'm looking at U11.
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That is a display/demo unit. I've had many Galaxys and Notes, but never experienced "burned in or ghost on my phones
and also now you have the option of hide and immersive in Tochwis.
samteeee said:
That is a display/demo unit. I've had many Galaxys and Notes, but never experienced "burned in or ghost on my phones
and also now you have the option of hide and immersive in Tochwis.
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I have S6 that's a mess, started showing burn in after a year, and now after two years it's very bad. I use navigation in a car and that's main reason. I still might consider S8 but i like U11 more and more.
Dejan Kruljac said:
I have S6 that's a mess, started showing burn in after a year, and now after two years it's very bad. I use navigation in a car and that's main reason. I still might consider S8 but i like U11 more and more.
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Ya I'm thinking of putting my S8+ up for sale so I can buy the U11.
Just do it........
Best build and smooth UI on the market......
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I moved from Samsung to HTC 2 years ago and never looked back since. I'm not even tempted to.
Beamed in by telepathy.
This thing flies! I'm not sure if it's because I disabled animation in Developer options but this is really fast! The unit is slippery at the same time for me it feels very nice to hold. Premium build as expected from HTC. And yes the camera...its great! 6GB/128GB here?
Just got it in Black. S8 display was to narrow for me.
Dejan Kruljac said:
I have S6 that's a mess, started showing burn in after a year, and now after two years it's very bad. I use navigation in a car and that's main reason. I still might consider S8 but i like U11 more and more.
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I was a S6 owner too. Indeed, I think S6 is pretty than U11 but TouchWiz UI is a big mess and got memory problem during multi-tasking.
samteeee said:
Greetings;
I'm almost convinced to sell my Sammy S8+ and buying an HTC U11!
What I need to know is this: is there an advantage to get a specific variant
over another as far as the "Rom/Kernel Development" goes?
I live in Canada but can also import one or even get a "US unlocked" unit.
Thank you.
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Well I went from the s8+ to the G6, lasted 1 day back to the s8+ then I got the OnePlus 5. Ditched the s8+ for the oneplus. Lost the great display but gained a smooth lag free experience. Then I got a great deal on the HTC U11. Never considered HTC before that. Never been a fan of touch U11 and their cameras we always ****ty. So when the U11 Dxomark rated 90 came along it seemed like an obvious choice. So now I got rid of the oneplus 5 and I'm rocking the U11 until the note 8 comes along.
The U11 software experience is just as smooth as the oneplus 5 with half the ram so better than the s8+. Only downside imo is the UI it's very dated. It basically looks like kit kat. The theming engine is laughable and sense is way too invasive. On the upside the design and finish is great, the screen is surprisingly good and the sound is also very good. So in the end somehow HTC U11>Oneplus5 >S8+
And yeah no lag.
Did I mention no lag... ?
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Well I went from the s8+ to the G6, lasted 1 day back to the s8+ then I got the OnePlus 5. Ditched the s8+ for the oneplus. Lost the great display but gained a smooth lag free experience. Then I got a great deal on the HTC U11. Never considered HTC before that. Never been a fan of touch U11 and their cameras we always ****ty. So when the U11 Dxomark rated 90 came along it seemed like an obvious choice. So now I got rid of the oneplus 5 and I'm rocking the U11 until the note 8 comes along.
The U11 software experience is just as smooth as the oneplus 5 with half the ram so better than the s8+. Only downside imo is the UI it's very dated. It basically looks like kit kat. The theming engine is laughable and sense is way too invasive. On the upside the design and finish is great, the screen is surprisingly good and the sound is also very good. So in the end somehow HTC U11>Oneplus5 >S8+
And yeah no lag.
Did I mention no lag... ?
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Thank you for your reply.
And I also thought about OP5, I mean excellent price, power and software and unreal Dev activity,
almost like the "Nexus" what use to be! But as soon as I sell my S8+, I'll get a U11.
samteeee said:
Thank you for your reply.
And I also thought about OP5, I mean excellent price, power and software and unreal Dev activity,
almost like the "Nexus" what use to be! But as soon as I sell my S8+, I'll get a U11.
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Oh yeah. Oneplus has definitely taken over the Nexus mantle. Lots of bang for your buck with a thriving development community. The only reason that made me go with the U11 is the better camera. I'm not sure which provider you're with. I'm with Telus and I lost my LTE + with the U11 had it on both the s8+ and the OP5 just in case that sort of thing matters to you. ?
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Oh yeah. Oneplus has definitely taken over the Nexus mantle. Lots of bang for your buck with a thriving development community. The only reason that made me go with the U11 is the better camera. I'm not sure which provider you're with. I'm with Telus and I lost my LTE + with the U11 had it on both the s8+ and the OP5 just in case that sort of thing matters to you. ?
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Of course it does. I've been with Rogers for a while now but bought a "Public Mobile" SIM card but haven't switched yet and
as you probably know PM use Telus bands. Don't you have the Canadian variant of U11?
samteeee said:
Of course it does. I've been with Rogers for a while now but bought a "Public Mobile" SIM card but haven't switched yet and
as you probably know PM use Telus bands. Don't you have the Canadian variant of U11?
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That's the thing. I have no idea. Bought it off of Kijiji. I have no idea where to find the info. Don't know if I have the Canadian, us, or international variant.
All discussion and info pertaining to root goes here.
Will update this OP as needed.
4/26/2018- There are TWO people working on root. Don't expect it ANYTIME soon. ?. Zero progress has been made since release.
Reserved
This is the single most 'thing' I'm waiting for...is a root method for the S9+ ... I wouldn't mind something like samfail for the Note 8, which I'm running and is absolutely perfect in doing everything it needs to...
I used to be all about ROM ROM ROM ... but honestly the stock firmware has been great with it debloated and cleaned up.
Hoping for the best... If we get Root for the S9+ (SD variant) I'm in for another S9+ lol...
Note: As some of you know like with the Note 8, there exists the v1, v2, v2.5, v3 root methods for the different firmware. What I'm curious about is at what point will we be completely locked out of our S9+'s due to those virus updates/patches?
Tip: DO NO BLINDLY JUMP TO UPDATES FOLKS... NEIN NEIN NEIN.... If you roll up too far and that virus update/patch so happens to be the one to lock the device out from ever being able to obtain some kind of root, you'll be totally SOL.
iunlock said:
This is the single most 'thing' I'm waiting for...is a root for the S9+ ... I wouldn't mind something like samfail for the Note 8, which I'm running and is absolutely perfect in doing everything it needs to...
I used to be all about ROM ROM ROM ... but honestly the stock firmware has been great with it debloated and cleaned up.
Hoping for the best... If we get Root for the S9+ (SD variant) I'm in for another S9+ lol...
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Stock has come a long way.
Sent from my stupid Note8
sicfast said:
Stock has come a long way.
Sent from my stupid Note8
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Yes indeed it has. MM 6.0 was great...Nougat 7.0 has been awesome....Oreo 8.0 has been a complete disaster like LP 5.0 was.
I still favor the simplicity of the good ol' JB 4.3 days lol....
At the end of the day, I'll take root over a custom ROM any day and I'm sure a lot of folks are in that same boat as well...
Not being able to use Titanium Back Up has been painful. :fingers-crossed: for root for the S9+
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Yes indeed it has. MM 6.0 was great...Nougat 7.0 has been awesome....Oreo 8.0 has been a complete disaster like LP 5.0 was.
I still favor the simplicity of the good ol' JB 4.3 days lol....
At the end of the day, I'll take root over a custom ROM any day and I'm sure a lot of folks are in that same boat as well...
Not being able to use Titanium Back Up has been painful. :fingers-crossed: for root for the S9+
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What's the problem with 8.0? It hasn't even been fully released on all devices yet.
Sent from my stupid Note8
sicfast said:
What's the problem with 8.0? It hasn't even been fully released on all devices yet.
Sent from my stupid Note8
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For the apps that I use, it's mainly compatibility issues...also as time goes on things are getting more and more locked down. Heck Android P might as well rename it to Android iOS. It's absolutely daunting on where Android is headed now.... it is drunk on the Apple kool aid.
What happened to asop and the freedom right?
I'm very happy with 8.0
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For the apps that I use, it's mainly compatibility issues...also as time goes on things are getting more and more locked down. Heck Android P might as well rename it to Android iOS. It's absolutely daunting on where Android is headed now.... it is drunk on the Apple kool aid.
What happened to asop and the freedom right?
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The reason why it's become so bad, my opinion anyway, is people who have no business rooting their phones are doing it and wrecking their phones, then wanting someone else to foot the bill for it.
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sicfast said:
The reason why it's become so bad, my opinion anyway, is people who have no business rooting their phones are doing it and wrecking their phones, then wanting someone else to foot the bill for it.
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That could very well add to the sky falling.
However, a lot of this proprietary security stuff is causing the lock down too with Knox etc...
They should just offer the ability to unlock bl/BB and have a button that needs be to tapped 10x to confirm the void in warranty by proceeding... That way it's idiot proof and fair game.
If people are too lazy to read, then they deserve to pay the tuition of reality check 101 lol..
I know I'm blunt... But it's the truth and most would agree.
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iunlock said:
That could very well add to the sky falling.
However, a lot of this proprietary security stuff is causing the lock down too with Knox etc...
They should just offer the ability to unlock bl/BB and have a button that needs be to tapped 10x to confirm the void in warranty by proceeding... That way it's idiot proof and fair game.
If people are too lazy to read, then they deserve to pay the tuition of reality check 101 lol..
I know I'm blunt... But it's the truth and most would agree.
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Pretty much the way it is in the automotive world. You blow it up, you fix it.
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why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.
G965F doesnt support B71 for Tmobile in USA
x111 said:
why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.
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Because that is the default device for the North American market.
I'm perfectly happy with my SD version. Good battery life and performance seems to be spectacular.
x111 said:
why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.
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...AND because those with T-Mobile can get land a killer deal on the top Samsung flagships.
Ex. T-Mobile had a BOGO Deal on the Note 8, which makes both of my Note 8's come out to ~$410. If I sell my 2nd one, I would be making +$300 to own my current Note 8 LOL ... just saying... (Pic attached of the $820 pre paid Mastercard for proof that I got back for the 2nd Note 8... not that it's needed, but it doesn't hurt to back it up.) Even if I keep my 2nd Note 8 as a back up, I'm still in the win for obtaining a flagship for less than the wannabe chinese knock off's out there that are no longer really cheap at $450-$500+ now *cough* OP5 ...
The S9/S9+ has a trade in deal right now as well for either $200 or $360, depending on what phone you trade in. So why would I pass up getting $200 for my old S4's and S5's? ...there's no way to get even close to that in today's market.... it's a no brainer.
I do agree that the Exynos variants are much better in terms of CPU and Dev support. A non rooted phone is useless to me, so that is one of the reasons why I even opted for the SD Note 8, ONLY because it has root. As for the S9+ there is a working Titanium Back Up alternative that allows me to freeze the virus software updates so that's the only reason why the S9+ is not going back. We're all hoping for a root for the SD S9+'s.... fingers crossed.
Of course I'd love to get my hands on the 256GB Exynos S9+, however, it is still unsure if it will suffer from the carrier aggregation the Exynos Note 8 had on our US networks. I know that there are a few folks that have ordered the Korean 256GB Exynos variant, so once we get confirmation that those work 100% with TM, I'm all in for another S9+.
So I keep pushing the first update back. Should I go ahead and take it? I'm on Verizon and I know sometimes firmware from release date is easier to root.
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Hopefully the S9 line gets root. The S8 having no proper form of root at the time and the Note 8 being such a good deal while having root made it hard not to get. Hopefully they Note 9 has a form of Samfail again.
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So I keep pushing the first update back. Should I go ahead and take it? I'm on Verizon and I know sometimes firmware from release date is easier to root.
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I'm wondering the same thing. Please.
Dude, after the s5, all of my knowledge on rooting etc has gone in the crapper.
I have the unlocked us variant but am on Verizon's network.
As ll the talk regarding the s8+ was even so hard for me to understand and all this used to be so easy. Where did I take a wrong turn? Lol
Doesn't look good guys. Seems like zero development is going on for us Snapdragon users. I've asked and looked in every message board. Seems it's only me and 2 other people working on root.
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Doesn't look good guys. Seems like zero development is going on for us Snapdragon users. I've asked and looked in every message board. Seems it's only me and 2 other people working on root.
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Noooooooo! I don't even know where to begin to help.
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