Greetings;
I'm almost convinced to sell my Sammy S8+ and buying an HTC U11!
What I need to know is this: is there an advantage to get a specific variant
over another as far as the "Rom/Kernel Development" goes?
I live in Canada but can also import one or even get a "US unlocked" unit.
Thank you.
samteeee said:
Greetings;
I'm almost convinced to sell my Sammy S8+ and buying an HTC U11!
What I need to know is this: is there an advantage to get a specific variant
over another as far as the "Rom/Kernel Development" goes?
I live in Canada but can also import one or even get a "US unlocked" unit.
Thank you.
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Well, those of us who have been with HTC since the beginning of time welcome you with open arms... but before that, there's a few things we have to go over on our "Are-You-Worthy-Of-The-HTC-Phone-Checklist"
1. Do you constantly wish you could change your phone to fit your needs (you're that guy that always has something unique or flashy on their phone)?
2. Are you a nerd, geek or maybe have high aspirations to be either (Blessed are the nerds, for they shall inherit the earth)?
3. Are you a selfless, confident guy who values quality and uniqueness over useless features?
4. Do you promise to remain faithful, year after year, even if HTC fails to produce devices worthy of your C.H.C (cold hard cash)?
If so, then I recommend going after the regular Unlocked HTC U11 (US version). International version from my experience though comes with dual sims, take longer to get updates and other critical software improvements.
Ditch Sammy and grab the HTC. You might even find yourself with a sexy nerdy chick on your arm! :good:
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Well, those of us who have been with HTC since the beginning of time welcome you with open arms... but before that, there's a few things we have to go over on our "Are-You-Worthy-Of-The-HTC-Phone-Checklist"
If so, then I recommend going after the regular Unlocked HTC U11 (US version). International version from my experience though comes with dual sims, take longer to get updates and other critical software improvements.
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I've got the U.S. unlocked version and it has 2 sims or it can be used with 1 sim and an sdcard.
My suggestion is get the 6GB/128GB unlocked version ... this way you can use both simslots if you need to and still have more than enough storage. :laugh:
samteeee said:
Greetings;
I'm almost convinced to sell my Sammy S8+ and buying an HTC U11!
What I need to know is this: is there an advantage to get a specific variant
over another as far as the "Rom/Kernel Development" goes?
I live in Canada but can also import one or even get a "US unlocked" unit.
Thank you.
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Get the exynos version if you care about root , otherwise stick with a Canadian version. Never know if Samsung falls back to how they treated the unlocked USA Gs7/edge lineup
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htc fan89 said:
Get the exynos version if you care about root , otherwise stick with a Canadian version. Never know if Samsung falls back to how they treated the unlocked USA Gs7/edge lineup
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Thank you for replying.
I have the "Exynos" Sim-Free UK. My coming over t HTC is not just to gain root !
Splaya said:
Well, those of us who have been with HTC since the beginning of time welcome you with open arms... but before that, there's a few things we have to go over on our "Are-You-Worthy-Of-The-HTC-Phone-Checklist"
1. Do you constantly wish you could change your phone to fit your needs (you're that guy that always has something unique or flashy on their phone)?
2. Are you a nerd, geek or maybe have high aspirations to be either (Blessed are the nerds, for they shall inherit the earth)?
3. Are you a selfless, confident guy who values quality and uniqueness over useless features?
4. Do you promise to remain faithful, year after year, even if HTC fails to produce devices worthy of your C.H.C (cold hard cash)?
If so, then I recommend going after the regular Unlocked HTC U11 (US version). International version from my experience though comes with dual sims, take longer to get updates and other critical software improvements.
Ditch Sammy and grab the HTC. You might even find yourself with a sexy nerdy chick on your arm! :good:
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lol.
No
Yes
Definitely
I'll promise, lol.
But in all seriousness I miss smooth UI and great performance that is not hindered by laggy software. And great development as well.
Otherwise the GS8+ design is in my opinion one of the best, if not the best.
Thank you.
I went to get S8 today, all S8 and S8+ devices there had burned in displays, it's also weird that Samsung store has on display devices looking like that. No way i'm getting AMOLED phone again until they improve that. Now i'm looking at U11.
Dejan Kruljac said:
I went to get S8 today, all S8 and S8+ devices there had burned in displays, it's also weird that Samsung store has on display devices looking like that. No way i'm getting AMOLED phone again until they improve that. Now i'm looking at U11.
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That is a display/demo unit. I've had many Galaxys and Notes, but never experienced "burned in or ghost on my phones
and also now you have the option of hide and immersive in Tochwis.
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That is a display/demo unit. I've had many Galaxys and Notes, but never experienced "burned in or ghost on my phones
and also now you have the option of hide and immersive in Tochwis.
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I have S6 that's a mess, started showing burn in after a year, and now after two years it's very bad. I use navigation in a car and that's main reason. I still might consider S8 but i like U11 more and more.
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I have S6 that's a mess, started showing burn in after a year, and now after two years it's very bad. I use navigation in a car and that's main reason. I still might consider S8 but i like U11 more and more.
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Ya I'm thinking of putting my S8+ up for sale so I can buy the U11.
Just do it........
Best build and smooth UI on the market......
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I moved from Samsung to HTC 2 years ago and never looked back since. I'm not even tempted to.
Beamed in by telepathy.
This thing flies! I'm not sure if it's because I disabled animation in Developer options but this is really fast! The unit is slippery at the same time for me it feels very nice to hold. Premium build as expected from HTC. And yes the camera...its great! 6GB/128GB here?
Just got it in Black. S8 display was to narrow for me.
Dejan Kruljac said:
I have S6 that's a mess, started showing burn in after a year, and now after two years it's very bad. I use navigation in a car and that's main reason. I still might consider S8 but i like U11 more and more.
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I was a S6 owner too. Indeed, I think S6 is pretty than U11 but TouchWiz UI is a big mess and got memory problem during multi-tasking.
samteeee said:
Greetings;
I'm almost convinced to sell my Sammy S8+ and buying an HTC U11!
What I need to know is this: is there an advantage to get a specific variant
over another as far as the "Rom/Kernel Development" goes?
I live in Canada but can also import one or even get a "US unlocked" unit.
Thank you.
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Well I went from the s8+ to the G6, lasted 1 day back to the s8+ then I got the OnePlus 5. Ditched the s8+ for the oneplus. Lost the great display but gained a smooth lag free experience. Then I got a great deal on the HTC U11. Never considered HTC before that. Never been a fan of touch U11 and their cameras we always ****ty. So when the U11 Dxomark rated 90 came along it seemed like an obvious choice. So now I got rid of the oneplus 5 and I'm rocking the U11 until the note 8 comes along.
The U11 software experience is just as smooth as the oneplus 5 with half the ram so better than the s8+. Only downside imo is the UI it's very dated. It basically looks like kit kat. The theming engine is laughable and sense is way too invasive. On the upside the design and finish is great, the screen is surprisingly good and the sound is also very good. So in the end somehow HTC U11>Oneplus5 >S8+
And yeah no lag.
Did I mention no lag... ?
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Well I went from the s8+ to the G6, lasted 1 day back to the s8+ then I got the OnePlus 5. Ditched the s8+ for the oneplus. Lost the great display but gained a smooth lag free experience. Then I got a great deal on the HTC U11. Never considered HTC before that. Never been a fan of touch U11 and their cameras we always ****ty. So when the U11 Dxomark rated 90 came along it seemed like an obvious choice. So now I got rid of the oneplus 5 and I'm rocking the U11 until the note 8 comes along.
The U11 software experience is just as smooth as the oneplus 5 with half the ram so better than the s8+. Only downside imo is the UI it's very dated. It basically looks like kit kat. The theming engine is laughable and sense is way too invasive. On the upside the design and finish is great, the screen is surprisingly good and the sound is also very good. So in the end somehow HTC U11>Oneplus5 >S8+
And yeah no lag.
Did I mention no lag... ?
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Thank you for your reply.
And I also thought about OP5, I mean excellent price, power and software and unreal Dev activity,
almost like the "Nexus" what use to be! But as soon as I sell my S8+, I'll get a U11.
samteeee said:
Thank you for your reply.
And I also thought about OP5, I mean excellent price, power and software and unreal Dev activity,
almost like the "Nexus" what use to be! But as soon as I sell my S8+, I'll get a U11.
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Oh yeah. Oneplus has definitely taken over the Nexus mantle. Lots of bang for your buck with a thriving development community. The only reason that made me go with the U11 is the better camera. I'm not sure which provider you're with. I'm with Telus and I lost my LTE + with the U11 had it on both the s8+ and the OP5 just in case that sort of thing matters to you. ?
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Oh yeah. Oneplus has definitely taken over the Nexus mantle. Lots of bang for your buck with a thriving development community. The only reason that made me go with the U11 is the better camera. I'm not sure which provider you're with. I'm with Telus and I lost my LTE + with the U11 had it on both the s8+ and the OP5 just in case that sort of thing matters to you. ?
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Of course it does. I've been with Rogers for a while now but bought a "Public Mobile" SIM card but haven't switched yet and
as you probably know PM use Telus bands. Don't you have the Canadian variant of U11?
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Of course it does. I've been with Rogers for a while now but bought a "Public Mobile" SIM card but haven't switched yet and
as you probably know PM use Telus bands. Don't you have the Canadian variant of U11?
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That's the thing. I have no idea. Bought it off of Kijiji. I have no idea where to find the info. Don't know if I have the Canadian, us, or international variant.
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i am confused, i am android user, recently used S5 and sold because of lagging,
which other phone i should buy?
iphone 5s or which smartphone is high end in this budget, and have better market value?
please Share your Opinion,
thanks in advance.
Edit. I dont want to buy LG G3 because the 2k display on LCD(IPS) not mature,results Stuck pixel issue, and sony is not my favourite, they make 2 flagship phone in 1 year lol..
Mandeep148 said:
i am confused, i am android user, recently used S5 and sold because of lagging,
which other phone i should buy?
iphone 5s or which smartphone is high end in this budget, and have better market value?
please Share your Opinion,
thanks in advance.
Edit. I dont want to buy LG G3 because the 2k display on LCD(IPS) not mature,results Stuck pixel issue, and sony is not my favourite, they make 2 flagship phone in 1 year lol..
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Its diffrent for all people are you more of themer guy? Get a nexus 5 as the most roms , xposed works with it.
If you just look for a good quality go for HTC One M8
If you love taking pictures go with the Note 4.
etc.....
Yes, really strange to hear the s5 was lagging for you enough to get rid of it. As for the iphone 5s, what price are you referring to? The 6's are coming out in two days so the price is very fluid right now. Are we talking $200, $400? Since Samsung and LG are out for you, how do you feel about Google, HTC?
Always attempt to avoid Apple, their products are expensive and overrated for their performance and their iOS system is so extremely closed-source that you can't really do much effective tweaking at all.
Just my 2¢.
xasteras said:
But I don't get how the s5 is lagging... did you try to start over?
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Yes, really strange to hear the s5 was lagging for you enough to get rid of it. As for the iphone 5s, what price are you referring to? The 6's are coming out in two days so the price is very fluid right now. Are we talking $200, $400? Since Samsung and LG are out for you, how do you feel about Google, HTC?
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the s5 you speaking, is snapdragon version, and its even available in india, snapdragon s5 doesnt lag, i used it.. actually exynos version is fully crap, 90% apps are not optimized for crap exynos, those are using exynos(if they are not able to upgrade smartphone)then probably they will always say exynos better, but i bet you, if marquies brownlee do review on s5 exynos variant, he will say 1 good point and 90% bad points...
+ still not 4.4 and no performance improvment update,
i am not saying samsung is crap, but tradition to india is so bad,
who cars about exynos, today world of snapdragon.. even developers phone are snapdragon may be nexus 5..
samsung need to change..
CustomGames said:
Its diffrent for all people are you more of themer guy? Get a nexus 5 as the most roms , xposed works with it.
If you just look for a good quality go for HTC One M8
If you love taking pictures go with the Note 4.
etc.....
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no i dont like taking picture, i like joy in OS, without lagging, i like touchwiz but indian samsung phone with exynos not fully optimized cause lag, some people notice and some not( i am heavy user so...)
i like sense too, very smoother response..
thenookieforlife3 said:
Always attempt to avoid Apple, their products are expensive and overrated for their performance and their iOS system is so extremely closed-source that you can't really do much effective tweaking at all.
Just my 2¢.
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i agree with that
the only thing i like in iphone is smoothness, never hangs or never cheat
i think m8 would be cool, how about stuck pixel in htc m8 , should i aware from it, actually i had these issues in lcd/ips displays
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i agree with that
the only thing i like in iphone is smoothness, never hangs or never cheat
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That's somewhat true, but not entirely. The worst thing about Apple devices for me is that they don't have problems too often, but when they do, they have no recovery mode or anything to fix the problem yourself. You absolutely always have to go to an Apple store to get a so-called "tech wizard" to help you out or to give you a new device.
Not so good.
thenookieforlife3 said:
That's somewhat true, but not entirely. The worst thing about Apple devices for me is that they don't have problems too often, but when they do, they have no recovery mode or anything to fix the problem yourself. You absolutely always have to go to an Apple store to get a so-called "tech wizard" to help you out or to give you a new device.
Not so good.
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Yea true.
hows the market resale value of htc one m8 ?
Mandeep148 said:
Yea true.
hows the market resale value of htc one m8 ?
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Dunno, I'll check it out.
Mandeep148 said:
Yea true.
hows the market resale value of htc one m8 ?
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Try nexus 5
Try sony xperia z3
jampy10 said:
Try sony xperia z3
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Honestly Good phone but bad service,
I mean suppose today I buy z3 after 4 months they make new smart phone, they forget previous smartphone like they never made, just look at their Advt and social media, when they launch new then forget previous model like that is manufactured by other company,
And if we buy z3 their price in our country fall quickly and resale value is like no value.. It's good phone but there are many things company needs to do than manufacturing
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Try nexus 5
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Yea it's really really good phone I used ever for 2 months(with stuck pixel).
I got cheque refund 2 times still stuck pixel, but I didn't wasted my time, I used this amazing phone for 2 months, was smoother and quick responsive like iPhone.
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Hello guys, I'm really low on money and need a new smartphone. I was thinking the 8X by HTC but as far as I read it won't even get the Update 1 from the Windows Phone 8.1.
So I'm better looking something else to buy?
HTC tweeted about 3 weeks ago that they are working through some issues with the 8.1 release, and have no dates to share just yet, but says "Stay tuned for more news."
Truck'n Hemi said:
Hello guys, I'm really low on money and need a new smartphone. I was thinking the 8X by HTC but as far as I read it won't even get the Update 1 from the Windows Phone 8.1.
So I'm better looking something else to buy?
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My 8X has 8.1 Update 1 installed on it via Preview for Developers. They fixed the issue a while ago.
Thanks for the replies, it really helped.
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My 8X has 8.1 Update 1 installed on it via Preview for Developers. They fixed the issue a while ago.
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Hey, man, could you give me some details regarding the 8X? I can't find anywhere about HTC's exclusive apps, updates, performance, etc. Did the camera get any better after all theses updates from WP8? I know it's a pretty good camera and I will use it a lot so if it got better I would be really happy. How are the nights shots?
It's similar to the Lumia 925 as far as performance goes. Depending on the model you get, it will use either an LTE or non-LTE chipset. In the US, the Verizon and AT&T variants are the LTE versions. I like the camera. Haven't had any issues with it. Just change if from the default 6MP to 8 MP.
IF you care about exclusive apps, get a Lumia HTC doesn't have any to write home about.
Here is a review of the AT&T model http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/htc-8x-review-windows-phone-8s-compact-flagship/
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It's similar to the Lumia 925 as far as performance goes. Depending on the model you get, it will use either an LTE or non-LTE chipset. In the US, the Verizon and AT&T variants are the LTE versions. I like the camera. Haven't had any issues with it. Just change if from the default 6MP to 8 MP.
IF you care about exclusive apps, get a Lumia HTC doesn't have any to write home about.
Here is a review of the AT&T model http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/htc-8x-review-windows-phone-8s-compact-flagship/
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Thanks, apreciate your analysis. Lumia 925 has good performance so I'll be satisfied, as far as I know the version on Asia doesn't have LTE and it's not a problem to me.
Actually I care about the HTC exclusive apps, I think HTC has great customizations so I'd like to try them. The camera app always got my attention, the blinkfeed is pretty cool, etc. I know Nokia has much more apps but none of them gets me right, my mother-in-law has a Lumia 520 that I recomended so I'm familiar with Nokia apps. Besides, HTC 8X is much more well designed than any windows phone, only Lumias 925 and 930 can be considered beautifully designed as well.
I read the review, its a pretty good phone, comfortable to hold and not too big, though the screen could be bigger for the phone size. I also read this review(HTC 8X camera review) with emphasis on the camera and I was happy to know that the software can automatcally slow down the sutter speed to get better images.
those apps you are referring to are exclusive to the HTC One M8 for Windows. They don't even show up in the store when I search for them on my 8X!
compu829 said:
those apps you are referring to are exclusive to the HTC One M8 for Windows. They don't even show up in the store when I search for them on my 8X!
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This can't be right, I've seen in some videos on YouTube that the 8X has HTC apps on Windows Phone. Maybe cause you're using a preview version for developers this support is not added yet, this happens in other plataforms as well.
Truck'n Hemi said:
This can't be right, I've seen in some videos on YouTube that the 8X has HTC apps on Windows Phone. Maybe cause you're using a preview version for developers this support is not added yet, this happens in other plataforms as well.
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It has some OEM apps, but not BlinkFeed. Love this phone, just ordered my third one.
Go for it, its worth the Money. In my country it is under $150, lower than any matching Lumia.
But if you see both phones side by side, Lumia is crap. I m using it for last one year, (switched from iPhone 5) and still comfortable with it.
As already told, it can have 8.1 under developer preview option.
Hagenlund said:
It has some OEM apps, but not BlinkFeed. Love this phone, just ordered my third one.
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Yeah, but blink feed isn't essential. Would be good if HTC release it's apps for download, it will release the HTC Camera on Play Store.
What do you mean third one? Don't you even try newer phones? Good to know, I'll keep your passion in mind.
Just ordererd a second-handed 8X from ebay and is now waiting for it ($80 free shipping)
Having used the WP7-era HTC surround, I think HTC's OEM specific apps isn't something that'll hold you from getting the DP updates.... They just don't feel as natural as they are on Android (if you can make Blinkfeed as the default page then that's another history...)
Anyway, for the price those 8X are hanging around on eBay, they're pretty good deals if you need a new (old) phone
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Yeah, but blink feed isn't essential. Would be good if HTC release it's apps for download, it will release the HTC Camera on Play Store.
What do you mean third one? Don't you even try newer phones? Good to know, I'll keep your passion in mind.
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Sure, after I broke my second 8X I switched to an M7. It works okay, but bit rot is setting in and I'm starting to wish I was back on Windows. Looking forward to receiving my new , blue Verizon 8X.
Hagenlund said:
Sure, after I broke my second 8X I switched to an M7. It works okay, but bit rot is setting in and I'm starting to wish I was back on Windows. Looking forward to receiving my new , blue Verizon 8X.
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Rot? That's strange, what kind? I really like HTC phones and the M8 for Windows is my current passion, too bad the price doesn't allow me to buy one.
Even if you like the 8X this much the only way I have to buy one is importing a refurbshed from China, so I rather buy some chinese smartphone. I'm still avaluating the situation.
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Rot? That's strange, what kind? I really like HTC phones and the M8 for Windows is my current passion, too bad the price doesn't allow me to buy one.
Even if you like the 8X this much the only way I have to buy one is importing a refurbshed from China, so I rather buy some chinese smartphone. I'm still avaluating the situation.
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Bit rot is just a name for the slowness and buggyness that comes to Android after a while of using it. Resetting the phone solves it, but it comes back again. Windows Phone and Ios avoids the problem by sandboxing apps etc. My first 8X i bought in store, a regular euro version. My second and third, both Verizon edition, i bought on eBay.
Hagenlund said:
Bit rot is just a name for the slowness and buggyness that comes to Android after a while of using it. Resetting the phone solves it, but it comes back again. Windows Phone and Ios avoids the problem by sandboxing apps etc. My first 8X i bought in store, a regular euro version. My second and third, both Verizon edition, i bought on eBay.
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Got it, Android does have this problem with long lasting stability and solidness. It's, however, getting much better and providing improved user experienced that was missing when compared with Windows Phone.
How are the camera of the 8X for macro shots? I will use a lot of the camera. 16GB of memory is ok for Windows Phone? I didn't have any trouble with space on Android.
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Got it, Android does have this problem with long lasting stability and solidness. It's, however, getting much better and providing improved user experienced that was missing when compared with Windows Phone.
How are the camera of the 8X for macro shots? I will use a lot of the camera. 16GB of memory is ok for Windows Phone? I didn't have any trouble with space on Android.
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I couldn't say about macro shots, since I've naver taken any myself. Generally I'd say the 8X has a great camera for its current price class, but obviously it can't compete with a 930 or something like that. WP takes up less space than Android, so you should be fine with 16 GB.
If you do get an 8X then make sure you get the Verizon edition for the wireless charging
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I couldn't say about macro shots, since I've naver taken any myself. Generally I'd say the 8X has a great camera for its current price class, but obviously it can't compete with a 930 or something like that. WP takes up less space than Android, so you should be fine with 16 GB.
If you do get an 8X then make sure you get the Verizon edition for the wireless charging
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The Nokias are in a different level when it comes to camera, mainly the PureView series. But the fotographer counts a lot, I've seen some crazy photos with this Lumias and with the HTC 8X I'd get great results.
Great news, then. Space is something that will always worry me once it don't get an expansion slot.
Unfurtnatly the Verizon model don't work in my country, has to be the unlocked or AT&T models because of the net. Besides, the wireless charging isn't a big deal for me.
For the price I'm trying to decide between the Sony Xperia T and the HTC 8X. Thinking in system and overall hardware the 8X takes the leadership, but when it comes to back camera and flexibility the Xperia T appears on top.
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The Nokias are in a different level when it comes to camera, mainly the PureView series. But the fotographer counts a lot, I've seen some crazy photos with this Lumias and with the HTC 8X I'd get great results.
Great news, then. Space is something that will always worry me once it don't get an expansion slot.
Unfurtnatly the Verizon model don't work in my country, has to be the unlocked or AT&T models because of the net. Besides, the wireless charging isn't a big deal for me.
For the price I'm trying to decide between the Sony Xperia T and the HTC 8X. Thinking in system and overall hardware the 8X takes the leadership, but when it comes to back camera and flexibility the Xperia T appears on top.
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Are you quite sure about the Verizon edition not working in your country? Strange, as it's supposed to be a worldphone. It works great here in Norway, except for the 4G which is the wrong band. Wireless charging isn't really something you think about, but it's a massive convenience if you do have it, so I'd reccommend checking that out if you're not 100 % sure.
Anyways, If I were you then I'd choose the OS first, then the phone. If you're looking for the most features for your money then Android is probably the way to go.
So I have a Galaxy S4 I've had for a year (before that I had the S3) with Verizon and I'm really tired of this locked bootloader crap. I'm kind of on a budget, so I could use some advice.
I really just want a phone that's as close to stock as possible and can be easily rooted/flashed. So, ideally a Nexus 5 or 6. I also saw HTC phones and Motorola phones on Verizon's web site, but I don't know if those phones are locked or not.
I would like to trade in my old phone and sign up for a contact as leverage, as I can't afford paying too much. Any advice would be appreciated.
On a budget, get a used phone from last year off eBay or here on Swappa, and you won't even have to re-up your contract. HTC M7, LG G2, Moto X (especially Developer Edition), one of the Droids. They should all be rootable, but I can't speak individually for unlocked bootloaders.
masronmarsa said:
For budget phones, you can pay some attention to China phones like Huawei, ZTE, XiaoMi, THL, ZOPO, Doogge and more. They are some China brands recommended. How do you think? I myself prefer Huawei phones.
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None of those will work on Verizon in the USA.
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On a budget, get a used phone from last year off eBay or here on Swappa, and you won't even have to re-up your contract. HTC M7, LG G2, Moto X (especially Developer Edition), one of the Droids. They should all be rootable, but I can't speak individually for unlocked bootloaders.
None of those will work on Verizon in the USA.
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Thanks for the recommendation I'll check it out. I'm most interested in Nexus, HTC, LG, or Moto. Would I be able to trade in my S4 for some value?
I suggest you to go for HTC M8. This device is really stylish.
This device
1. Feels nicer to hold.
2. Knock on feature.
3. seems faster
4. Takes a micro sd card.
Rickyzx said:
I suggest you to go for HTC M8. This device is really stylish.
This device
1. Feels nicer to hold.
2. Knock on feature.
3. seems faster
4. Takes a micro sd card.
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The problem with HTC M8 is the camera, otherwise would be a great choice. I have the oneplus one and I am really happy.
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So I have a Galaxy S4 I've had for a year (before that I had the S3) with Verizon and I'm really tired of this locked bootloader crap. I'm kind of on a budget, so I could use some advice.
I really just want a phone that's as close to stock as possible and can be easily rooted/flashed. So, ideally a Nexus 5 or 6. I also saw HTC phones and Motorola phones on Verizon's web site, but I don't know if those phones are locked or not.
I would like to trade in my old phone and sign up for a contact as leverage, as I can't afford paying too much. Any advice would be appreciated.
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you can have a contract plan ,then cellphones is relatively cheaper .as for online shopping ,
you need to ask them for details if their cellphones are unclocked or not to avoid any
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Oneplus one...had some invites...all shared ;p
+1 for OnePlus One, great phone for cheap price.
People say the nexus has terrible battery life, so accordong to this, I wouldn't recommend you to buy one. I'd recommend you to buy a moto g though, since it's actually a smaller version of a nexus, and allegedly has better battery life, but more of that I'd recommend either an htc one m8 or an lg g3, if your wallet can handle the price. Now, about off-contract, I'd suggest the oneplus one, because it's a flagship killer and it's relatively cheap, as said above.
I recommend the LG G3...the bootloader can be sort of unlocked via Bump, but the LG Rom is pretty close to stock, doesnt add too much extras. It has a great camera and awesome screen, SD Card and removable 3000mAh battery. It's a nice phone! I will agree that Nexus phones have very poor battery life, but you can install just about anything on them in terms of ROMs. If sticking with GSM, the OnePlus One is nice too but I'm not sure where that company is going with CyanogenMod and OnePlus on the fritz. They will probably have to develop their own rom in the future, unless you want to load the CyanogenMod version, which you can do that too. Moto X phones are good, battery life would still be my concern, but its as close as stock as you can get besides nexus.
I'm probably going to look at the MotoX or droid Turbo.. I'll check out the OPO. I guess I have some hw to do. I'm using Verizon's edge plan, and I don't think that's a traditional contract. I also need to look at and see what kind of development is going on for each of these devices.
People mentioned eBay and Amazon.. Are there any sites that are specifically for buying/trading used phones?
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I'm probably going to look at the MotoX or droid Turbo.. I'll check out the OPO. I guess I have some hw to do. I'm using Verizon's edge plan, and I don't think that's a traditional contract. I also need to look at and see what kind of development is going on for each of these devices.
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OnePlus One won't work on Verizon's CDMA network.
People mentioned eBay and Amazon.. Are there any sites that are specifically for buying/trading used phones?
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At the top of the forum page, there's a link for Swappa, XDA's own marketplace.
Go here for help deciding your next phone : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
balx96 said:
The problem with HTC M8 is the camera, otherwise would be a great choice. I have the oneplus one and I am really happy.
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I agree with you. I have also noticed that the camera quality of HTC devices is relatively low than Samsung devices.
Hello guys I just wanted to get a better feel of how everyone else feels right now and in particular to the Galaxy S7 as well as s7 Edge on T-Mobile having a locked bootloader making root extremely difficult to get if not impossible. This was upsetting to me not because I wanted the S7 and S7 Edge but because this set a precedent for the Note 6 which is not yet released. I started my Journey with a Galaxy Note 2 and loved them ever since. I have very large hands so I definitely needed a large phone and I really quite liked the size and features. I then got the Note 4 and was certainly happy with it for over a year. I usually only hold onto phones for a short while but that phone did pretty much everything for me so I held onto it a while. Samsung announced the Note 5 and I decided to pass due to no more SD Card so I now needed to opt for at least 64gb and no IR blaster. So I decided I wouldn’t be getting that and would look at other options. I began my hunt and ultimately one of the few phones that met my standards was the Nexus 6P since it had a 5.7-inch screen which was Amoled and had a very good camera and I decided to try out stock Android since everyone always raves of its speed and updates. Plus, root on the 6P would be easy.
Anyway the 6P has been doing fine but the battery does leave a lot to be desired (I feel touchwiz does very well with its battery optimizations). Camera is also slightly better due to speed and manual controls as well as screen brightness. The next phone on my radar is the Note 6 but with the no root precedent I’m fairly concerned. To sum it up I feel we don’t have many 5.7 inch or larger phone options out there and was wondering what devices will you guys be looking at as Note competitors especially if the new Note 6 from, T-Mobile cant be rooted? It seems manufacturers like LG and HTC are not really coming out with Note competitors and if they do they are basterdized in some fashion (like lower specs and cameras). Just makes you wonder if they are not interested in the market.
Well, from what I know lg is doing seem. V10 just got an update that apparently locked down the phone. Can't even go down to lollipop if you took the MM update...I will say you should hold onto that nexus, rest of the flashaholics and root lovers will join you soon. Lol
But to answer original post, yes that is now the norm going forward.
Gotta see t-mobile Samsung devices locked up one more time to tell.
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TarquinnBlackwood said:
Gotta see t-mobile Samsung devices locked up one more time to tell.
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Yes, I would agree, one more locked Samsung from Tmobile will confirm, but I would be very surprised if it came UNlocked...
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Well, from what I know lg is doing seem. V10 just got an update that apparently locked down the phone. Can't even go down to lollipop if you took the MM update...I will say you should hold onto that nexus, rest of the flashaholics and root lovers will join you soon. Lol
But to answer original post, yes that is now the norm going forward.
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This will be really sad if so. Nexus devices are fine but sometimes dont bring all the best features. If the phone is less than 5.7 inches and no Amoled its a non start for me. Liked the HTC 10 but 5.2 inch screen is no go for me lol.
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Gotta see t-mobile Samsung devices locked up one more time to tell.
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True, will be anxiously waiting.
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Yes, I would agree, one more locked Samsung from Tmobile will confirm, but I would be very surprised if it came UNlocked...
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Thanks for your input. makes sense.
Note 6 will be locked down.
I live in the US, but I ordered an Edge S before I realized that the G100 might launch in the USA soon. Even so, it's looking like it might be more like $500, and I paid less than $400 for the Chinese Edge S. Hopefully the $100 savings will be worth it. But value-wise, I'm very excited for this phone. Some people are kind of angsty because it's an LCD display instead of OLED, but in the battery life comparisons I've seen it does very well and is just behind the Galaxy S 21 in overall endurance. I have the Black Shark 3 Pro but I've just never been happy with it since day one. The UI isn't great, it lacks NFC (I didn't know or else I wouldn't have gotten it...who makes a $700-$800 flagship without NFC?!?), and it lacks desktop mode. All of those were actually better on my previous phone, the Mate 20X. The UI wasn't much better on my last phone, but it was a little bit. I like how Motorola is really light on their UI and on extra apps, focusing more on hardware and a smooth experience. I had Motorolas before and I've really liked them, and a lot of my family has Motorolas now and they're happy too. My only hesitancy is that the screen is a tad small, smallest I've had in a while. But I think 6.7 will still be big enough. And hopefully too, I can sell my Black Shark 3 Pro for more than I paid for the Edge S since my phone is still in very good condition. I guess we'll see!
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I live in the US, but I ordered an Edge S before I realized that the G100 might launch in the USA soon. Even so, it's looking like it might be more like $500, and I paid less than $400 for the Chinese Edge S. Hopefully the $100 savings will be worth it. But value-wise, I'm very excited for this phone. Some people are kind of angsty because it's an LCD display instead of OLED, but in the battery life comparisons I've seen it does very well and is just behind the Galaxy S 21 in overall endurance. I have the Black Shark 3 Pro but I've just never been happy with it since day one. The UI isn't great, it lacks NFC (I didn't know or else I wouldn't have gotten it...who makes a $700-$800 flagship without NFC?!?), and it lacks desktop mode. All of those were actually better on my previous phone, the Mate 20X. The UI wasn't much better on my last phone, but it was a little bit. I like how Motorola is really light on their UI and on extra apps, focusing more on hardware and a smooth experience. I had Motorolas before and I've really liked them, and a lot of my family has Motorolas now and they're happy too. My only hesitancy is that the screen is a tad small, smallest I've had in a while. But I think 6.7 will still be big enough. And hopefully too, I can sell my Black Shark 3 Pro for more than I paid for the Edge S since my phone is still in very good condition. I guess we'll see!
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I've had my eye on this phone for a while. The specs look really nice and at $400 it's a decent deal for what you get. Will be watching to see how the rom development goes. I think they released the kernel a while ago so hopefully something happens soon.
HopelesRomantc91 said:
I live in the US, but I ordered an Edge S before I realized that the G100 might launch in the USA soon. Even so, it's looking like it might be more like $500, and I paid less than $400 for the Chinese Edge S. Hopefully the $100 savings will be worth it. But value-wise, I'm very excited for this phone. Some people are kind of angsty because it's an LCD display instead of OLED, but in the battery life comparisons I've seen it does very well and is just behind the Galaxy S 21 in overall endurance. I have the Black Shark 3 Pro but I've just never been happy with it since day one. The UI isn't great, it lacks NFC (I didn't know or else I wouldn't have gotten it...who makes a $700-$800 flagship without NFC?!?), and it lacks desktop mode. All of those were actually better on my previous phone, the Mate 20X. The UI wasn't much better on my last phone, but it was a little bit. I like how Motorola is really light on their UI and on extra apps, focusing more on hardware and a smooth experience. I had Motorolas before and I've really liked them, and a lot of my family has Motorolas now and they're happy too. My only hesitancy is that the screen is a tad small, smallest I've had in a while. But I think 6.7 will still be big enough. And hopefully too, I can sell my Black Shark 3 Pro for more than I paid for the Edge S since my phone is still in very good condition. I guess we'll see!
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Hey, yup, I'm looking forward to this phone. I also live in the US and like Moto, unlike a lot of people. If you don't mind me asking, what carrier do you use? With no North American variant announced yet I'm thinking of buying one from another region. Just wasn't sure if it would necessarily work. I don't have any experience buying phones outside of this region. Any advice would be great.
I think you could buy a Moto edge S from Chinese, the cheapest version is 1999￥ RMB.
After that, you unlock the Bootloader, when the global version release - G100, you can flash the global version firmware. It's very nice!
To be honest, the Moto edge S (Chinese version), the UI is MyUI, not pure Moto UI. It's very ugly.
HopelesRomantc91 said:
I live in the US, but I ordered an Edge S before I realized that the G100 might launch in the USA soon. Even so, it's looking like it might be more like $500, and I paid less than $400 for the Chinese Edge S. Hopefully the $100 savings will be worth it. But value-wise, I'm very excited for this phone. Some people are kind of angsty because it's an LCD display instead of OLED, but in the battery life comparisons I've seen it does very well and is just behind the Galaxy S 21 in overall endurance. I have the Black Shark 3 Pro but I've just never been happy with it since day one. The UI isn't great, it lacks NFC (I didn't know or else I wouldn't have gotten it...who makes a $700-$800 flagship without NFC?!?), and it lacks desktop mode. All of those were actually better on my previous phone, the Mate 20X. The UI wasn't much better on my last phone, but it was a little bit. I like how Motorola is really light on their UI and on extra apps, focusing more on hardware and a smooth experience. I had Motorolas before and I've really liked them, and a lot of my family has Motorolas now and they're happy too. My only hesitancy is that the screen is a tad small, smallest I've had in a while. But I think 6.7 will still be big enough. And hopefully too, I can sell my Black Shark 3 Pro for more than I paid for the Edge S since my phone is still in very good condition. I guess we'll see!
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Did u flash the global rom or using the chines rom. And from where did u buy?
Steve331 said:
I think you could buy a Moto edge S from Chinese, the cheapest version is 1999￥ RMB.
After that, you unlock the Bootloader, when the global version release - G100, you can flash the global version firmware. It's very nice!
To be honest, the Moto edge S (Chinese version), the UI is MyUI, not pure Moto UI. It's very ugly.
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This may be the route I go with. I guess it all depends whether the phone is released here in NA. I've seen articles that have said "more news to come" regarding a release and I've also seen at least one that has said "will not be available in North America". Of course, none are official statements by Motorola, so either can be true. I really like this phone, though, and one way or another, I'm going to pick it up.
Steve331 said:
I think you could buy a Moto edge S from Chinese, the cheapest version is 1999￥ RMB.
After that, you unlock the Bootloader, when the global version release - G100, you can flash the global version firmware. It's very nice!
To be honest, the Moto edge S (Chinese version), the UI is MyUI, not pure Moto UI. It's very ugly.
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I've not seen it for this price anywhere. Where are you finding it?
I bought mine from AliExpress, but I've also bought from Giztop.com before and it was fine. I don't have the phone yet, it should be arriving probably in another week or so. I don't know of any bootloader unlock, nor having access to a global ROM to flash.
As far as buying phones from outside your region, kimovil.com seems to have the most accurate and also easiest to read info about which service bands a device has. I have AT&T, and this device has more LTE bands than my current one, which works fine anyway. I may not really get 5G, but I don't think AT&T has 5G in my area yet anyway.
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I bought mine from AliExpress, but I've also bought from Giztop.com before and it was fine. I don't have the phone yet, it should be arriving probably in another week or so. I don't know of any bootloader unlock, nor having access to a global ROM to flash.
As far as buying phones from outside your region, kimovil.com seems to have the most accurate and also easiest to read info about which service bands a device has. I have AT&T, and this device has more LTE bands than my current one, which works fine anyway. I may not really get 5G, but I don't think AT&T has 5G in my area yet anyway.
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u can try unlocking bootloader as moto allow it. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b. U also can flash global rom using Rescue and Smart Assistant application
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u can try unlocking bootloader as moto allow it. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b. U also can flash global rom using Rescue and Smart Assistant application
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Cool. I'll consider it after I get it. But most likely the Chinese ROM will be fine. The description says it comes with Google services and has English language. I'll probably only try to flash Global if I run into issues.
Timmons said:
I've not seen it for this price anywhere. Where are you finding it?
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You could find Moto edge S on China website, like jd.com or taobao.com.
if they could send it to your country, China retail version is the lowest price.
Steve331 said:
You could find Moto edge S on China website, like jd.com or taobao.com.
if they could send it to your country, China retail version is the lowest price.
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Thanks! Never heard of these sites. Definitely beats aliexpress price
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Thanks! Never heard of these sites. Definitely beats aliexpress price
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I bought mine a few months back when they were doing pre-order from giztop.com. They shipped to Canada. now I'm just waiting for the G100 rom to flash the Edge S, and I'll be 100% happy. Other than that. great phone.
I 'm using the edge s . i find the phone 3.5mm headphone sound is so bad quality. Especially at low volume, there are obvious noises that accompany the ups and downs of the music.
Hello everyone! I am very exited about this phone too. I live in Argentina and ordered the Moto G 100 a few days ago (8GB+128GB+USB C to HDMI Cable). Next week should be in my hands.
I am also thinking about custom ROMs like PixelExperience, which I really like. Currently I have a Redmi Note 7 4GB+64GB I am very happy with the behavior of PixelExperience on it. I am a little afraid that I am will not get used to the Motorola UI.
Also thinking about custom ROMs do you think that the "Ready For" feature will be compatible?
So far I like the Motorola UI, but it really is personal preference. I've never tried PixelExperience. As for Ready For, I can't say. But starting with Android 10, desktop mode was built-in as a developer option. I haven't tested that feature at all, but I imagine it's decent and similar to Ready For.
As soon as you get your G100, if you could download the Rescue and Smart Assistant, download your firmware, and then upload it and share it here, that would be awesome.
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So far I like the Motorola UI, but it really is personal preference. I've never tried PixelExperience. As for Ready For, I can't say. But starting with Android 10, desktop mode was built-in as a developer option. I haven't tested that feature at all, but I imagine it's decent and similar to Ready For.
As soon as you get your G100, if you could download the Rescue and Smart Assistant, download your firmware, and then upload it and share it here, that would be awesome.
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Pixel experience is pretty awesome. Hopefully the smart devs on xda work on it eventually.
HopelesRomantc91 said:
So far I like the Motorola UI, but it really is personal preference. I've never tried PixelExperience. As for Ready For, I can't say. But starting with Android 10, desktop mode was built-in as a developer option. I haven't tested that feature at all, but I imagine it's decent and similar to Ready For.
As soon as you get your G100, if you could download the Rescue and Smart Assistant, download your firmware, and then upload it and share it here, that would be awesome.
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Sure! I can do that.
Sorry, I am new here, where is right place to upload those kind of things?
I actually don't know. I would like to summon @sd_shadow to ask, where is the best place to upload firmware?
HopelesRomantc91 said:
I actually don't know. I would like to summon @sd_shadow to ask, where is the best place to upload firmware?
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Androidfilehost.com is good, some complain about the download speed
Mega.nz is good
Google drive is good
Edit: Sorry I thought AFH had a free upload