I have decided to leave this phone behind me. Sold it at full price and bought myself a Galaxy S7 Edge. I'll possibly be around still since my coworker is the one who bought it and he'll probably need help but this might be goodbye.
At this point I've tried all major flagships (besides that iCrap) and wasn't happy with the V10. Specifically T-Mobile/LGs support for the device with the bugs and all.
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Why you werent happy? I have the t mobile v 10. Since january and i havent experienced any bugs so far. The only thing i hate is how low the volume is. Even with a custom rom. We need a new kernel!
I wanted s7 edge so bad and I checked out galaxy s7 edge on tmo store and decided to stay with v10. This phone looks/feels better
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I wanted s7 edge so bad and I checked out galaxy s7 edge on tmo store and decided to stay with v10. This phone looks/feels better
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Same. I just can't get used to the curved edges, my finger slides off them and it annoys me. Waiting for the Note 6.
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I have decided to leave this phone behind me. Sold it at full price and bought myself a Galaxy S7 Edge. I'll possibly be around still since my coworker is the one who bought it and he'll probably need help but this might be goodbye.
At this point I've tried all major flagships (besides that iCrap) and wasn't happy with the V10. Specifically T-Mobile/LGs support for the device with the bugs and all.
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Hate to see you go, thanks for all your hard work... Good luck.
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Just saw all new US Samsung phones are bootloader locked... No root!!!
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Just saw all new US Samsung phones are bootloader locked... No root!!!
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The international version is not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65788795&postcount=98
But then you lose T-Mobile specific things like wifi-calling.
Goodluck with root. Just read it may be near impossible because even the tmobile version os locked down tighter than normal.
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Just saw all new US Samsung phones are bootloader locked... No root!!!
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That sucks. I knew there was another reason why I dumped Samsung when they got rid of external storage and removable batteries
And Knox and voiding T-mobile warranty, so many reasons. Samsung is like Apple to me now.. Dead. And it not like Samsung doesent have their own bugs and lag
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Yup... T-Mobile has disappointed me big time with locking the S7 bootloader... oh well, we still have LG, HTC, and Nexus phones to tinker with.
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Yup... T-Mobile has disappointed me big time with locking the S7 bootloader... oh well, we still have LG, HTC, and Nexus phones to tinker with.
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I don't think T-Mobile had a choice in it. I think it was all Samsung on the bootloader. I remember reading somewhere that Samsung was going to require locked bootloaders for all phones but it wasn't supposed to happen for a while yet. Guess Samsung went all Apple of people
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Yup... T-Mobile has disappointed me big time with locking the S7 bootloader... oh well, we still have LG, HTC, and Nexus phones to tinker with.
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Yeah, according to Sammy sources, it's locked so you can't screw up Samsung Pay... And other related security measures...
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Yeah, according to Sammy sources, it's locked so you can't screw up Samsung Pay... And other related security measures...
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So basically they went all Apple on people. Good way to drive people away.
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Yeah, according to Sammy sources, it's locked so you can't screw up Samsung Pay... And other related security measures...
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They should have an official unlock tool like HTC. Sure, if you want it unlocked, you void the warranty and forfeit KNOX and Samsung Pay forever, but you should still be able to do it.
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They should have an official unlock tool like HTC. Sure, if you want it unlocked, you void the warranty and forfeit KNOX and Samsung Pay forever, but you should still be able to do it.
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I would think there's a way... They do have the unlock bootloader option in developer menu... Hell, the Verizon v10 just got root? Who knows... Lol.
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So basically they went all Apple on people. Good way to drive people away.
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They drive away a few thousand modding hobbyists and gain a million security conscious paranoid consumers. That is a win for them.
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They should have an official unlock tool like HTC. Sure, if you want it unlocked, you void the warranty and forfeit KNOX and Samsung Pay forever, but you should still be able to do it.
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Totally agree here!! Or sell developer models that get regular updates and sell them right at release day.
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They drive away a few thousand modding hobbyists and gain a million security conscious paranoid consumers. That is a win for them.
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Yup! That's exactly why this happened. However, the presence of the OEM Unlock option in the Developer Options screen hints at there being a way, just not a very obvious one.
We might have to resort to weird stuff like using send_command.exe with the LG G4 on Lollipop. Someone has to figure it out.
Looks like Mr.T-Mobile, John Legere, is all over trying to get the bootloader unlocked on the S7 and the S7 Edge. I told y'all it wasn't T-Mobile that wanted it locked.
I have the V10, and love it......I also love T-Mobile specifically because Legere is at the helm. The guy has done so much for T-MO users while CEO.....this is why i'm a T-Mobile customer for life (or Legere leaves). If they can unlock the bootloader then I may get the S7 Edge
and sell my V10.
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Like the title states, Samsung will be releasing a Verizon Developer Edition GSIII with Unlockable Bootloader. Thoughts? Comments? Curse words?
I mainly want to know, will this impact our data plan if we purchase this product.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-offer-hacker-friendly-developer-edition-galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
This pisses me off even more than the bootloader being locked in the first place. Not only would I have to sell my normal S3, I'd have to wait for one of the developer ones, most likely with a tiny stock, to ship to me. I don't know how Samsung could possibly think this is a valid solution after the majority of people who want to hack their phone bought it when it came out.
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Like the title states, Samsung will be releasing a Verizon Developer Edition GSIII with Unlockable Bootloader. Thoughts? Comments? Curse words?
I mainly want to know, will this impact our data plan if we purchase this product.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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I want to know how soon it will be available. I would gladly sell my new S3 on Ebay to buy an unlocked one.
Any chance this could help people on here unlock the bootloader on the VZW S3?
I'm also slightly skeptical of this. I don't see this anywhere else but on some blogs. I can't find anything official from Samsung.
Hmm, according to CNet, Samsung sent this out as an email. That could be why there's no official release.
I also don't see that you can currently buy anything from http://developer.samsung.com
Ahh, verified https://twitter.com/SamsungJohn/status/222832375422402560
What a pile of steaming ****.
**** you, Verizon.
it should be noted guys that hardware wise its prolly gunna be the same.. ergo flashing the low level partitions will prolly "convert" ya
im just saying that based on speculation..
When?!
That's the question I have.
Also, will it have all the vzw junk and the annoying notification spam?
Can't wait for the answers.
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This is the most annoying frustrating thing. Do I return the phone before the 14 days are up now? I don't really want to spend double on the exact same phone... F u Verizon.
This could be good news for us. Looks like Samsung is getting some heat from us. I say keep the calls to Samsung going and also the facebook comments going. I keep telling that I'm returning because of this. They don't want to hear this..... Keep going guys...
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This is absolutely disgusting.
I don't know why people support this, or why people are assuming we'll magically be able to flash the developer firmware/bootloader to our standard Verizon Galaxy S3s.
Haven't read into it yet but is this version only available unsubsidized? Or can it be purchased at a subsidized price if I haven't upgraded yet?
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This is absolutely disgusting.
I don't know why people support this, or why people are assuming we'll magically be able to flash the developer firmware/bootloader to our standard Verizon Galaxy S3s.
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i would imagine that shot is at me, like i said just guessing i dont see any reason why not.
using something like dd to write every single partition to another device and basically "clone it" would then bypass the checks for certain software.
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i would imagine that shot is at me, like i said just guessing i dont see any reason why not.
using something like dd to write every single partition to another device and basically "clone it" would then bypass the checks for certain software.
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No, that wasn't directed at you or anyone in particular- I was more referring to the tons of support the model was getting in the IRC channel.
I don't understand it, because I seriously doubt it will help.
It's possible, but I'm really doubting it.
Regardless, unless it does prove as a method for allowing consumer-level devices to be unlocked, it is practically useless to almost all Galaxy S3 owners on Verizon.
I'm not bashing anyone, I'm just disgusted Samsung and/or Verizon would think this is an okay alternative.
Also, how about all that "unlocked devices will hurt the network" stuff from Verizon? I believe there's a bit of a contradiction here.
Edit: Just restating, no hard feelings towards you, shabbypenguin, or anyone else, it just blows my mind Samsung and Verizon would pull this.
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Haven't read into it yet but is this version only available unsubsidized? Or can it be purchased at a subsidized price if I haven't upgraded yet?
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You'll be buying directly from Samsung so there will be no subsidy. You'd have to sell your Verizon-bought phone and use the cash for this if you want to do it on the cheap.
So basically the phone doesn't come with a warranty why offer warranty on a phone that people want to hack Verizon u piss me off I'm on sprint and I probably hate Verizon for doing this just as much as u guys
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Giving my locked GS3 to my wife.
Well this will make my wife happy. As soon as the developer version is available I'm going to get it and give the locked GS3 I just got today to my wife.
One question though, assuming the locked version can be unlocked, does that mean development for both devices will be the same? Or is it possible that they will have to have separate development?
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So basically the phone doesn't come with a warranty why offer warranty on a phone that people want to hack Verizon u piss me off I'm on sprint and I probably hate Verizon for doing this just as much as u guys
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Every device has a warranty, until you unlock it. Technically. And unless they can see that it was ever unlocked when you lock it back up...it's all good
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756483
it worked!! lol j/k
Good bye unlimited to those who still had it. I'm going to ride out the one I have. Guess they will need to add another developer area for these devices.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756483
it worked!! lol j/k
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Haha! On a serious note, are you going to purchase this Developer Edition GSIII? I read the original article as I was waiting in line at Fed Ex to pick up my GSIII. I am seriously thinking of returning my GSIII and getting this.
I mean I myself will wait until the last day to return it, and hope the bootloader issue has been solved. But what a shame, this device is nice. To hear the htc one already has cm10 is kinda of disappointing. So the question I ask what device will you get instead? Is it even worth it to get the international gs4 version?
I'm sticking with the GS4. I can live with the Disable option for now.
Also, I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus, so I'm already familiar with Samsung's hardware.
I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
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I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
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Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
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Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
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Cool! Thanks for the informative post..
I am not really following any of this as I don't have any interest in custom ROM's.
I have not even rooted yet but may do so once we have a way to restore back to factory. I'm pretty simple these days (I was a chronic flasher in years past) but now I only consider root if I want to use Titanium and AdFree..
I know a lot of users want custom ROM's though so hopefully the bootloader can and will be cracked.
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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Cyanongen ...has both the One and S4 " https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/eGmW8e8sCn4 "
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Personally right now I'm fine with a root and de-bloating. I do know it's possible to remove the root and return to stock if you need or want to return the phone because I had to. I just deleted the SU binary along with Busybox from system/xbin and the phone status went back to custom and lock on boot went away.
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Yeah I am ok with that to but man the UI is so ugly... I hope to see some changes lol
As for the bootloader, the biggest problem is the number of potential developers. I'm not buying the device (full price) and a jtag just to test. And the fact that they're using an open source system is not encouraging..But let's see what happens! It does reaffirm my distain for ATT though.
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Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Yes... No way to OC without a custom kernel or recovery to flash said kernel.
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Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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They may not notice but at&t sure will
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They may not notice but at&t sure will
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
Personally I'm just going to wait for the bootloader to be unlocked before I buy one, if it turns out that the bootloader is not unlockable I'll just buy a GS3.
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
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Thanks for the info but you have not changed my mind on the matter. I'll wait as long as I can.
I have started a petition on change.org to Samsung and AT&T to get the boot loader unlocked. I saw some other people petition other companies a little while ago to unlock the bootloader of a phone and when they reached the required amount of signatures they released a software update and BOOM it was unlocked. Sign it here if you like: https://www.change.org/petitions/sa...oot-loader-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s4-sgh-1337
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I believe there is already a petition for this same exact thing with ~383 signatures on it. http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
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Nice if only that would work with At&t great what you're trying but it will just get no where fast. unless you hold the CEO of Att hostage and make these demands probably not going to get to many results.
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Nice if only that would work with At&t great what you're trying but it will just get no where fast. unless you hold the CEO of Att hostage and make these demands probably not going to get to many results.
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Careful now! The NSA is now watching you for a comment like that
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Careful now! The NSA is now watching you for a comment like that
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tha guvment shut down so I might be ok.
Also, does anyone know who I should put in for the email contacts. I want to email both companies but don't know who I should email.
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I believe there is already a petition for this same exact thing with ~383 signatures on it. http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
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Best if we use this petition, there are more people who signed up already, including me.
Gfl
I emailed Samsung and got this reply
"We would like to inform you that the devices released through carriers are bootloader locked version’s. However, the devices with unlocked bootloader’s are available through Verizon and AT&T. Hence, we request you to check with the carriers for further information regarding the query."
Makes it sound like its the carriers are the ones requesting the boot-locks and that some of there phones aren't locked which is kinda weird. I'm going to contact att tomorrow and ask If I can trade my phone for one without a bootlock as I just bought it. I do not expect this to work but it worth trying and I want att to know that I do not like being sold lock down phones.
Anyways I signed both petitions
if I get any good news from att I will post an update, but more then likely I will just get the classic run around.
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I emailed Samsung and got this reply
"We would like to inform you that the devices released through carriers are bootloader locked version’s. However, the devices with unlocked bootloader’s are available through Verizon and AT&T. Hence, we request you to check with the carriers for further information regarding the query."
Makes it sound like its the carriers are the ones requesting the boot-locks and that some of there phones aren't locked which is kinda weird. I'm going to contact att tomorrow and ask If I can trade my phone for one without a bootlock as I just bought it. I do not expect this to work but it worth trying and I want att to know that I do not like being sold lock down phones.
Anyways I signed both petitions
if I get any good news from att I will post an update, but more then likely I will just get the classic run around.
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Samsung is completely correct and this has been known for a long time now. The unlocked devices they are talking about are the developer and GE phones. AT&T and Verizon branded S4s are bootloader locked. If you want to read through the forums, there is a lot more information available about all of this. Good luck.
signed, hope they release an unlock soon, i guess this may happen only later when a new flagship arrives
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Also, does anyone know who I should put in for the email contacts. I want to email both companies but don't know who I should email.
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[email protected]
CEO and chairman of ATT. This is the CEO of ATT, not just ATT wireless, be calm, be professional and be polite. Nothing a boss hates more than several emails from actual rational customers about how his subordinates are doing their job.
Emailing him and blasting twitter/facebook is the best way to get a response. Unfortunately you need MANY people doing it at once. However, samsung devices probably have the biggest userbase besides iphone on ATT. The same issues we have are also present on the Note 3 and other samsung devices no? They are all locked down too right? Getting everyone to blast ATT calmly, rationally, professionally, and most important, PUBLICLY, will get a response if the number of comments is high enough. About once a week I have been tweeting at all the different ATT accounts and emailing various executives and samsung. They just need enough people to understand that people really don't like it being locked down.
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Do they have to unlock the boot loader when you have had your phone for 2 years? Seems like at that point I have paid back the subsidy and the phone should be mine. I am glad to see things moving away from subsidized phones. God I hate Samsung. Their touchwiz interface is the worst piece of trash in the world. All their junk software sucking my battery dry.
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Do they have to unlock the boot loader when you have had your phone for 2 years? Seems like at that point I have paid back the subsidy and the phone should be mine. I am glad to see things moving away from subsidized phones. God I hate Samsung. Their touchwiz interface is the worst piece of trash in the world. All their junk software sucking my battery dry.
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They don't have to ever unlock it. Samsung isn't really the enemy here, mostly AT&T since they're the one locking it. And I've run this battery for days on the stock system.
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They don't have to ever unlock it. Samsung isn't really the enemy here, mostly AT&T since they're the one locking it. And I've run this battery for days on the stock system.
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I took my phone off the charger about an hour ago to read a text message. I haven't done anything with it. Just checked the battery is down to 93%. If I leave it off charge it will be dead in the morning. It wasn't like this before the 4.3 update.
I know AT&T is the enemy, but what choice. Verizon is also the enemy. T-Mobile is better, but the coverage is not good.
Not like there is much of a choice. Actually I have no choice because my work place only allows us to use Verizon or AT&T. They both suck.
However I am going to switch my wife over to T-Mobile when her contract is up this summer.
Still waiting on MF3
I still haven't updated to MK2 from MF3 fearing I will not be able to go back if any solution for bypassing the bootloader comes up for MF3.. I had signed up for the petitions long back and now it is good to see that the numbers have increased since then. However I dont think anything will be done by AT&T even after the petitions reach the goal..
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I still haven't updated to MK2 from MF3 fearing I will not be able to go back if any solution for bypassing the bootloader comes up for MF3.. I had signed up for the petitions long back and now it is good to see that the numbers have increased since then. However I dont think anything will be done by AT&T even after the petitions reach the goal..
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the easiest route would be to trade for a tmobile galaxy s4 or if you have the disposable income just buy the i9505, i kinda agree no matter how many petitions we sign it will never be enough, so much for android being the " open platform " that it was supposed to be.
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Will that international one work on atnt 4glte? I thought it was different than the atnt version
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I'm not sure, but the international may not have the same radio bands for LTE. You'd have to compare them.
What I'm confused about is, how isn't there a way to "ODIN" our phones with the GPE edition stock ROM/Bootloader/etc. Isn't the hardware identical other than the factory software that's loaded on it?
Then again, that would be too easy..
Feeling Happy . Good News
Below The List It Shows : The next version of Android: 5.0 Lollipop
http://www.samsung.com/fi/info/update.html#mobile
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_to_bring_lollipop_to_s4_note_2_and_others-news-10566.php
I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid
Coming December 2015!
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I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid
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Was it easy to do on your AT&T S4??? Was everything working Wifi and connect to ATT Ok???
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Coming December 2015!
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Lol more like December 2016 with the way at&t lags with updates.
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I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid
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StoneyJSG said:
Lol more like December 2016 with the way at&t lags with updates.
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Amen on SLOW AT&T UPDATES
Everything worked perfect first try
Punisher420 said:
Everything worked perfect first try
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You must be referring to kangapop? I wish I could try it.
Murasakiii said:
You must be referring to kangapop? I wish I could try it.
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Me as well, I ran @iB4STiD rom's for a long time then was forced into an update which locked my phone up so now I'm safestrapped for life. Really don't mind nj4 just want Lollipop. I have it on my Nexus 7 and with the update to 5.0.2 it's running smooth and quick.
Ask the important questions, man!
Does Samsung plan to unlock the i337 bootloaders with the lollipop update!?
VladimirMan93 said:
Does Samsung plan to unlock the i337 bootloaders with the lollipop update!?
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It's AT&T locking them not Sammy.
~wolverine~ said:
It's AT&T locking them not Sammy.
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I have an alleged i9505 with an AT&T BL.
however, the droid os belongs to samsung since they're the ones doing the edits, fixes and customization.
VladimirMan93 said:
I have an alleged i9505 with an AT&T BL.
however, the droid os belongs to samsung since they're the ones doing the edits, fixes and customization.
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The issue is AT&T says we will buy it if you lock it to us so we can keep our customers and make it more of a chore to leave our company. Samsung says ok because we want the sales and that's why it's done... Samsung can care less once they sell you the phone what you do with it and they already built ways to know what you did to the phone for warranty returns. (So they can deny the claims that are caused by you not listening.)
If you want to get mad at anyone get mad at AT&T just like verizon they play every trick in the book.
That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version
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The issue is AT&T says we will buy it if you lock it to us so we can keep our customers and make it more of a chore to leave our company. Samsung says ok because we want the sales and that's why it's done... Samsung can care less once they sell you the phone what you do with it and they already built ways to know what you did to the phone for warranty returns. (So they can deny the claims that are caused by you not listening.)
If you want to get mad at anyone get mad at AT&T just like verizon they play every trick in the book.
That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version
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It is supose to be unlocked I had the same phone i9505 with i337 bootloader it came that way from the factory at Vietnam cause I bought it brand new,
Albie_Stark said:
It is supose to be unlocked I had the same phone i9505 with i337 bootloader it came that way from the factory at Vietnam cause I bought it brand new,
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I have heard of that happening from people that buy online but I don't know much about them I believe someone in one of the threads (that was an at&t or samsung source) said they were at&t branded internationals (meaning they were to be sold through at&t for corporate or maybe coverage outside the US?, though I don't know much more because I only stay up to date on the US versions
If you just bought it you might want to check your buying source (example amazon will give you a new phone if you buy the international that's meant to be used with several carriers), if you have owned it for awhile then you're in the same boat as the rest of us.
I don't think the bootloader will ever be unlocked unless..
A law requires them too...
Someone finally finds a exploit (which because less likely as more people switch to newer phones)
They have a security leak like Sony where the key is discovered.
BehrendsTech said:
I have heard of that happening from people that buy online but I don't know much about them I believe someone in one of the threads (that was an at&t or samsung source) said they were at&t branded internationals (meaning they were to be sold through at&t for corporate or maybe coverage outside the US?, though I don't know much more because I only stay up to date on the US versions
If you just bought it you might want to check your buying source (example amazon will give you a new phone if you buy the international that's meant to be used with several carriers), if you have owned it for awhile then you're in the same boat as the rest of us.
I don't think the bootloader will ever be unlocked unless..
A law requires them too...
Someone finally finds a exploit (which because less likely as more people switch to newer phones)
They have a security leak like Sony where the key is discovered.
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OMG!! I supouse that.... but it is ok for me, my phone was manufactured on 11-28-14,I bought it on december 12 if you want to see the whole story look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/help/bought-i9505-china-i337-bootloader-t2985230
@VladimirMan93 the answer to our pain
BehrendsTech said:
That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version
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Or at the very least stop the store worker from updating it when you first activate it. When I bought mine she took it out of the box, turned it on and immediately accepted the update notification and installed it after it downloaded when she put the screen protector on..
@Apoplectic1
You should have made her give you different one. I do not and will not allow a store clerk to setup or mess with a phone I'm buying. :good:
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@Apoplectic1
You should have made her give you different one. I do not and will not allow a store clerk to setup or mess with a phone I'm buying. :good:
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I would have had I known that AT&T locked their bootloaders. This is the first phone that I have owned that had one, and until I tried to mess around with it I had no idea that one could lock a bootloader.
Sadly, I won't be able to get the Lollipop update unless I want my phone locked down forever because I am one of the few people that is still on the MDL firmware which can use the LOKI bootloader bypass to boot custom ROMs.
Just got my ZFlip3 today and was wondering what's the best way to root it. OEM unlock isn't an option in my developer options but i can still get into download mode by holding volume buttons connected to USB. Total noob here, is there any hope for my us region phone?
Samsung has not supported unlocking the bootloader on US models since the Galaxy S7 if I remember correctly
luigi90210 said:
Samsung has not supported unlocking the bootloader on US models since the Galaxy S7 if I remember correctly
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I keep hearing that, but my Note 20 Ultra had OEM Unlock
twistedumbrella said:
I keep hearing that, but my Note 20 Ultra had OEM Unlock
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so there's hope for me? ;-;
(side note, this phone was a birthday present, i prolly should've told my dad to never buy it from at&t lol)
duckspacito said:
so there's hope for me? ;-;
(side note, this phone was a birthday present, i prolly should've told my dad to never buy it from at&t lol)
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It was there when I got it, though.
duckspacito said:
so there's hope for me? ;-;
(side note, this phone was a birthday present, i prolly should've told my dad to never buy it from at&t lol)
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No. The only way to unlock bootloaders from the US models in recent history has been a hacked, remote bootloader unlock that they're charging $150 for.
Edit: And the process isn't out for the flip or fold, to my knowledge.
I'm willing to bet Twistedumbrella simply doesn't have a US model.
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No. The only way to unlock bootloaders from the US models in recent history has been a hacked, remote bootloader unlock that they're charging $150 for.
Edit: And the process isn't out for the flip or fold, to my knowledge.
I'm willing to bet Twistedumbrella simply doesn't have a US model.
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How much? Although, it would be less of a bet than a donation knowing you've already lost. It was a Note 20 Ultra unlocked US model purchased from Samsung.
twistedumbrella said:
How much? Although, it would be less of a bet than a donation knowing you've already lost. It was a Note 20 Ultra unlocked US model purchased from Samsung.
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Then you're the only person in the country to get one. CONGRATS!
Needless to say, you're one out of a million people in the US who got it, and it's not available to anyone on the Flip3. You're just spreading false info. And honestly, until there's proof, I 100% don't believe you about your Note.
Edit: You know, you keep saying your phone had "OEM unlock" but you never actually said you unlocked the bootloader. You do realize that earlier Samsung phones had an OEM unlock option that just did nothing, correct?
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Then you're the only person in the country to get one. CONGRATS!
Needless to say, you're one out of a million people in the US who got it, and it's not available to anyone on the Flip3. You're just spreading false info. And honestly, until there's proof, I 100% don't believe you about your Note.
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It is just one more reason I wish I hadn't traded it in on this phone. I honestly didn't even know it wasn't supposed to be there until I got this one and it wasn't, but the glass also wasn't supposed to peel away from the panel. The guy who had to replace it said the same thing about being one in a million.
Don't worry. I wasn't going to hold you to the bet, even if I had a screenshot.
twistedumbrella said:
I keep hearing that, but my Note 20 Ultra had OEM Unlock
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I call nonsense unless you got a non USA model with the Exynos SOC.
All USA phones have the snapdragon SOC and have for about 5 years.
The snapdragon version has no publicly known method to unlock the bootloader and it definitely doesn't have the button in dev mode.
I wouldn't mind you using screen record and making a video showing us that you have a snapdragon soc AND an unlock bootloader button.
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I call nonsense unless you got a non USA model with the Exynos SOC.
All USA phones have the snapdragon SOC and have for about 5 years.
The snapdragon version has no publicly known method to unlock the bootloader and it definitely doesn't have the button in dev mode.
I wouldn't mind you using screen record and making a video showing us that you have a snapdragon soc AND an unlock bootloader button.
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It is just one more reason I wish I hadn't traded it in on this phone. I honestly didn't even know it wasn't supposed to be there until I got this one and it wasn't, but the glass also wasn't supposed to peel away from the panel. The guy who had to replace it said the same thing about being one in a million.
Don't worry. I wasn't going to hold you to the bet, even if I had a screenshot.
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Believe me or not. It honestly won't change anything.
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Believe me or not. It honestly won't change anything.
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It's hard to believe considering there seems to be no other case of a snapdragon edition having the option. Unlock carrier yes. Bootloader... No.
It just doesn't make sense that you would get a phone that was running the Exynos version of the firmware on a snapdragon device and the device still worked...
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It's hard to believe considering there seems to be no other case of a snapdragon edition having the option. Unlock carrier yes. Bootloader... No.
It just doesn't make sense that you would get a phone that was running the Exynos version of the firmware on a snapdragon device and the device still worked...
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Couldn't tell you. Had it not been for the screen coming apart, I would probably still have it and not even know anything was unusual. The irony of being the one device I chose not to root.
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Couldn't tell you. Had it not been for the screen coming apart, I would probably still have it and not even know anything was unusual. The irony of being the one device I chose not to root.
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It's certainly an interesting mystery. Id love to get my hands on it and try to figure out how it works in the hope that it would lead to a way to unlock the bootloader on current models.
Perhaps the setting is technically there but hidden by a flag and something happened on your device to flip that flag...
You certainly have me very curious despite my skepticism. I'm gonna go digging... I'm also going to start messaging eBay sellers in hope of finding another snapdragon device with the option available.
Then maybe we could enjoy root without the insane method that requires $150. Hell I'd settle for just having TWRP again.
Sorry I'm a little late to the conversation but here's your unlocked snapdragon. Google is your friend.
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It's hard to believe considering there seems to be no other case of a snapdragon edition having the option. Unlock carrier yes. Bootloader... No.
It just doesn't make sense that you would get a phone that was running the Exynos version of the firmware on a snapdragon device and the device still worked...
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Haz3 said:
Sorry I'm a little late to the conversation but here's your unlocked snapdragon. Google is your friend.
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Yeah uhm... Plenty of people have spoken to our "friend" Google and haven't found anything.
2 screenshots? Screenshots can be faked. How about before you take a light jab at someone you actually prove them (and everyone else) wrong and post the actual method to unlock the bootloader and get root.
Don't worry we will wait... Of course we won't be holding out breath.
Search the Note 20 Ultra Forum. I don't have the actual method. All I can tell you is I have a Note 20 Ultra 5g from Google Fi, unlocked and rooted. I bought the phone from Google Fi locked. Yes I paid for it but so what, I got the device for half price on a promotion.
Does anything in my post history dictate that I would make some **** up like this? I don't need to impress anybody but spreading misinformation isn't cool. It's entirely possible to get a Snapdragon bootloader unlocked.
Edit: to say the first result is the service I used. Sampwnd
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Search the Note 20 Ultra Forum. I don't have the actual method. All I can tell you is I have a Note 20 Ultra 5g from Google Fi, unlocked and rooted. I bought the phone from Google Fi locked. Yes I paid for it but so what, I got the device for half price on a promotion.
Does anything in my post history dictate that I would make some **** up like this? I don't need to impress anybody but spreading misinformation isn't cool. It's entirely possible to get a Snapdragon bootloader unlocked.View attachment 5464933
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Maybe it was possible to get THAT phone's boot loader unlocked but it's not on any other USA Samsung phone.
Just look at the forums for every USA Samsung phone since the note 8 or 9. Nothing. If it were possible then there would be plenty of roms, kernels etc for USA phones.
So apparently the note 20 ultra fi version can be unlocked... But that doesn't help anyone else.
Wait a min... You aren't talking about that send us your phone crap are you?
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Wait a min... You aren't talking about that send us your phone crap are you?
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Nope