Is this true?
Our microsd cards are now useless?
Why would you think that?
I don't think Sony would write the SD card access out of their software, when their phones have SD slots.
From what I've read, Marshmallow can integrate the SD with the internal memory, so to speak.
I don't think we're gonna end up with useless cards lol
MickieH said:
Why would you think that?
I don't think Sony would write the SD card access out of their software, when their phones have SD slots.
From what I've read, Marshmallow can integrate the SD with the internal memory, so to speak.
I don't think we're gonna end up with useless cards lol
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I think he was asking for integrating SD card to the internal storage!
SONY, LG and SAMSUNG currently removed this option from their MM updates due to some concerns about the performance! (I think)
It's just like the Xperia Z3 Marshmallow Concept ROM, it's fine. There will still be SD Support for the Xperia Z5 in Marshmallow, fear not!
It works the same way it has before. Music, movies etc (so media) are fine, but you can't store apps. That was the feature some were expecting. Nothing has been removed... but neither has it been added.
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Dumped my buggy not impressive Galaxy s 4g today> (love Costcos 3 months policy) and picked up G2x. So far extremally impressed!
One question is the Costco phone guy handed my the 16gig micro SD card from the Galaxy as he said he had extras from dead phones. I said THANK YOU! and installed. However when using AppstoSd program it only see's internal mem, and Internal SD 5gs. It does not see or give option to move to my 16g Sd card?
My HD2 and Samsung worked great with AppstoSD. Am I missing something? I mean I guess the 1.2gig and 5gigs of internal is enough. But I like to also use the SD card for programs to not overload internal memory.
I have not rooted yet, will do that so I can get my Titanium backup working to see it I can do it with that.
Thanks!
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Dumped my buggy not impressive Galaxy s 4g today> (love Costcos 3 months policy) and picked up G2x. So far extremally impressed!
One question is the Costco phone guy handed my the 16gig micro SD card from the Galaxy as he said he had extras from dead phones. I said THANK YOU! and installed. However when using AppstoSd program it only see's internal mem, and Internal SD 5gs. It does not see or give option to move to my 16g Sd card?
My HD2 and Samsung worked great with AppstoSD. Am I missing something? I mean I guess the 1.2gig and 5gigs of internal is enough. But I like to also use the SD card for programs to not overload internal memory.
I have not rooted yet, will do that so I can get my Titanium backup working to see it I can do it with that.
Thanks!
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Can't be done, discussed endlessly in the corresponding O2x thread...
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Can't be done, discussed endlessly in the corresponding O2x thread...
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Been all over that thread. This issue and the "phantom AT&T bands are two big issues on this device. However, there may be some hope at the CM end - not this item in the latest CM7 changelog"
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Change I6beb0077: Allow multiple shareable SD Cards by using getShareableVolumes() to get all the volumes that are shareable and allowing sharing/unsharing for all of them rather than just the hardcoded getExternalStorage calls.
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First thank you for responding. I am not a newbie but have been rooting and testing my Hd2's for past year. My first non HTC phone in awhile was the vibrant s4g, it had its own problems with very low internal memory.
So I was excited this phone had 8 gigs plus now my 16 gig card. I have not been on these forums so I did not know it was a known issue Sorry.
So to clarify, there is no workaroud? But can I not just use root explorer and move files to the SD card? I understand apps to sd wont do it automaticly. But I plan to put my music and movies at least on SD... What would even be the use of the manufacturer putting SD slot on phone if you could not use it?
Ira that is what I do. SD card = sdcard/external_SD
Or something to that effect. I plan to keep my apps2sd on internal and SD for straight storage and backups.
From the sound of it, the clockwork mod can access the microsd so at least backups will be off the device.
-sent from my LG 2Gx
iceshark said:
First thank you for responding. I am not a newbie but have been rooting and testing my Hd2's for past year. My first non HTC phone in awhile was the vibrant s4g, it had its own problems with very low internal memory.
So I was excited this phone had 8 gigs plus now my 16 gig card. I have not been on these forums so I did not know it was a known issue Sorry.
So to clarify, there is no workaroud? But can I not just use root explorer and move files to the SD card? I understand apps to sd wont do it automaticly. But I plan to put my music and movies at least on SD... What would even be the use of the manufacturer putting SD slot on phone if you could not use it?
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What I have been doing is the basic copy and paste. I copy the app or video ect. from the sd card and paste it on the ext/sd card. If there is a faster oor easier way please let me know. I am rooted and this is the first phone I ever had with this kind of a set up with the sd card. I prefer the other way much better ala Nexus One.
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Ira that is what I do. SD card = sdcard/external_SD
Or something to that effect. I plan to keep my apps2sd on internal and SD for straight storage and backups.
From the sound of it, the clockwork mod can access the microsd so at least backups will be off the device.
-sent from my LG 2Gx
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That is correct. In a file manager etc. you can locate your SD Card by going to the ExternalSD folder (path: SD Card/ExternalSD). The "SD Card" is actually the internal memory, and the "External SD" is the actual SD Card. When you plug your phone into a PC two different drives come up, one for the internal and one for the SD Card. From what I know you can't put apps on your actual SD Card. However music, pics, etc. all work just fine. I have all my music on my SD Card and everything else on the internal.
P.S. When opening the internal memory in a PC it will still have an ExternalSD folder, but it will be empty. I would advise not deleting it.
There's something like 1.5GB just for apps. What the heck are you doing to "overload" it??
cyberchuck9000 said:
There's something like 1.5GB just for apps. What the heck are you doing to "overload" it??
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GPS maps will easily overload the internal SD card. If they let the map location be set, that would fix it, but most do not (yet).
Hi, i use a Galaxy S3 and have used many roms but it's not possible to move apps to the sd card, is this the same on the Note? The reason i ask is because i need more than 16GB of storage for all my apps, if it is not possible i will buy the 32GB version if yes i will get the 16GB with a 32GB micro sd.
Mafiatounes said:
Hi, i use a Galaxy S3 and have used many roms but it's not possible to move apps to the sd card, is this the same on the Note? The reason i ask is because i need more than 16GB of storage for all my apps, if it is not possible i will buy the 32GB version if yes i will get the 16GB with a 32GB micro sd.
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the same ordeal with the SGS3, so might as well get the 32GB
I believe that it is possible but only if you root your tablet. I am not positive on this so wait for someone else to verify what I am saying. However it seems that the difference between 16gb and 32gb is only $50 and that ain't bad in my opinion.
I have heard it's not possible with ICS. I hope I'm wrong.
There is no option to move apps to the SD card anymore.
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It's one of tablets thing.
Even with ICS you can't do that. Form side it better for fast and safe replacing of sdcards.
I have the note 5.3 with it I can add apps to the sdcard.
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How the hell are you filling 16GB of space with JUST apps?
Entropy512 said:
How the hell are you filling 16GB of space with JUST apps?
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Well most (Batman, Amazing Spiderman and so on) games are about 1>2GB in size + many small apps i use + Sygic with maps of countries i have to visit for work on a regular bases (Belgium, The Netherlands, France and Germany), add to that you only get 11.25GB and my S3's memory is almost full.
I will have to wait for the 32GB/3G version it is not available yet here.
Mafiatounes said:
Well most (Batman, Amazing Spiderman and so on) games are about 1>2GB in size + many small apps i use + Sygic with maps of countries i have to visit for work on a regular bases (Belgium, The Netherlands, France and Germany), add to that you only get 11.25GB and my S3's memory is almost full.
I will have to wait for the 32GB/3G version it is not available yet here.
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Sounds like broken apps if they are not able to move their data portion to external storage...
Entropy512 said:
Sounds like broken apps if they are not able to move their data portion to external storage...
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No broken apps, the ability is taken out in devices launched with ICS/JB, devices updated to ICS/JB still have the ability to move apps to SD it seems.
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No broken apps, the ability is taken out in devices launched with ICS/JB, devices updated to ICS/JB still have the ability to move apps to SD it seems.
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There should be no need for an app to be moved to SD. HOWEVER, an app SHOULD be able to have its data relocated - if it can't the app is broken.
No *app* is large enough to justify moving to SD. However, if an app insists on its data being in the same location and can't be moved to external storage, that's a problem.
In fact, most likely, those apps already have their data on the "SD" - the problem is that on devices like this, the internal SD is indistinguishable from /data in terms of storage usage. If the app doesn't support moving data to external SD, that's a broken app.
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There should be no need for an app to be moved to SD. HOWEVER, an app SHOULD be able to have its data relocated - if it can't the app is broken.
No *app* is large enough to justify moving to SD. However, if an app insists on its data being in the same location and can't be moved to external storage, that's a problem.
In fact, most likely, those apps already have their data on the "SD" - the problem is that on devices like this, the internal SD is indistinguishable from /data in terms of storage usage. If the app doesn't support moving data to external SD, that's a broken app.
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I know that since ICS the memory layout has changed, in previous (GB) devices you had multiple partitions on the internal SD now this is gone and so is apps (data) to SD.
I'm not so sure about the term "broken apps" because in that case it means all apps are broken cause of all my 100 apps and games there is not a single one that can allocate data anywhere except internal sd. Google messed with this since ICS, it isn't a problem on the Galaxy Nexus or One X because they don't have memory expansion.
After thinking about getting the 32GB with a unknown wait time, i decided to for the 16GB Wifi/3G version i will skip Sygic on the Note since i don't see myself with a tablet on the windshield driving.
This is why I returned my 16gb. I have the 32gb one on the way now. With these Androidand gameloft games, it ddoesn't take long to use up 16gb of memory. Which is really only 11gb out the box. My nova3 alone is like 2gb. So I need larger storage space for all my games n apps. The games are the ones taking up the most space.
But I think the op means moving the data to external SD/memory card. So it'll free up space on internal storage/internal SD..which is really all merged now. So yeah, games store their data to internal SD. But if you have a microsd card installed, there's no way to move the largest part of game data to it to free up space on internal memory. That's my take on moving apps to SD. I know of the older methods. Like on my atrix. Still on froyo. I can move apps from internal storage(which was limited in size) to internal SD(which was larger in size). Or even move it to external. Lmfao I'm confusing myself now.
demandarin said:
This is why I returned my 16gb. I have the 32gb one on the way now. With these Androidand gameloft games, it ddoesn't take long to use up 16gb of memory. Which is really only 11gb out the box. My nova3 alone is like 2gb. So I need larger storage space for all my games n apps. The games are the ones taking up the most space.
But I think the op means moving the data to external SD/memory card. So it'll free up space on internal storage/internal SD..which is really all merged now. So yeah, games store their data to internal SD. But if you have a microsd card installed, there's no way to move the largest part of game data to it to free up space on internal memory. That's my take on moving apps to SD. I know of the older methods. Like on my atrix. Still on froyo. I can move apps from internal storage(which was limited in size) to internal SD(which was larger in size). Or even move it to external. Lmfao I'm confusing myself now.
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Yes, there is a way. Use Apps 2 SD and GL to SD apps. I moved a lot of the huge downloads for my games using those apps.
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this is one advantage ios has over android. you can actually download the games on your computers and sync later. or you can sync, delete and reinstall later without having to redownload everything (unless there's an update). you can kinda do this in android, but it's not as automated.
Get link2sd
Use link2sd to move apps to external sd
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Profit...
Sure it would be nicer if it was all built into the OS, but I think it takes less time to get link2sd and solve than problem than it takes to complain... I have a 16gb pad, and a 64gb MicroSD split half as fat32 and half as ext4... all my large apps go into the ext4 partition... so even though I have more than 16gb worth of apps/games, my internal storage is almost empty...
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Get link2sd
Use link2sd to move apps to external sd
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Profit...
Sure it would be nicer if it was all built into the OS, but I think it takes less time to get link2sd and solve than problem than it takes to complain... I have a 16gb pad, and a 64gb MicroSD split half as fat32 and half as ext4... all my large apps go into the ext4 partition... so even though I have more than 16gb worth of apps/games, my internal storage is almost empty...
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Can you possibly explain this process in a bit more detail, and maybe provide some pictures? I'm ordering mine today, but if this is true I'll just save some cash (and heartache with the lack of 32s being available) and purchase the 16+ an SD card.
Apps to Extsd
Use Root Explorer The paid version, works very well.
Noxey said:
Can you possibly explain this process in a bit more detail, and maybe provide some pictures? I'm ordering mine today, but if this is true I'll just save some cash (and heartache with the lack of 32s being available) and purchase the 16+ an SD card.
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Could you guide me on how to do this? I got the 16gb note and a 32gb microSD card plugged in.
Oh and another note: how exactly does the storage work on this thing?
I hear all this about internal storage, internal SD and then the external SD (which I assume is the SD card I plugged in myself.
Thanks
Edit: this was supposed to quote the guy I quoted, quoted. Isn't used to this application
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Tried this app. Every. APk got a *FAILED INSUFFICIENT STORAGE" error. I have plenty of available space. Do I need to set up and ext4 for it to work?
Thanks.
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So, I got a 32gb Class 10 card for my phone assuming that as with my old phone I'd use it for apps as well as some music and things. But with this phone Samsung gave it an "internal" SD Card which gets used for all the things my external card did on my Dinc. And there seems to be no way to change this.
So aside from Videos and Mps3 and some pics, is there really any use for the SD card on this phone?
FYI - not rooted or anything as of yet. I was rooted & running custom roms on my Dinc, but haven't seen much of a need on this phone.
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So, I got a 32gb Class 10 card for my phone assuming that as with my old phone I'd use it for apps as well as some music and things. But with this phone Samsung gave it an "internal" SD Card which gets used for all the things my external card did on my Dinc. And there seems to be no way to change this.
So aside from Videos and Mps3 and some pics, is there really any use for the SD card on this phone?
FYI - not rooted or anything as of yet. I was rooted & running custom roms on my Dinc, but haven't seen much of a need on this phone.
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Aside from being able to back up all your stuff and store ALL the media you could want, no..
Supposedly there is a way to force apps onto extsd but I don't know much about it.
Thanks!
Thank you!
hollywoodfrodo said:
So, I got a 32gb Class 10 card for my phone assuming that as with my old phone I'd use it for apps as well as some music and things. But with this phone Samsung gave it an "internal" SD Card which gets used for all the things my external card did on my Dinc. And there seems to be no way to change this.
So aside from Videos and Mps3 and some pics, is there really any use for the SD card on this phone?
FYI - not rooted or anything as of yet. I was rooted & running custom roms on my Dinc, but haven't seen much of a need on this phone.
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I recently upgraded from a "tricked out, custom ROM" Dinc as well. I didn't root the SIII for the first couple weeks, but them little things, like the sdcard vs extsdcard for apps, no google wallet, no titanium backup, etc got the best of me and I rooted. You can certainly ulock the potential of your extsdcard by rooting.
Is there a guide available for forcing apps onto extSD?
Sent from Galaxy S III on Verizon (Unlocked Bootloader)
Set Titanium Backup to backup to ext-sd. Make your NANDROIDs save to sd-ext as well. If your phone is ever damaged (fall in water, fall on ground, etc) then at least you still are able to salvage the sdcard with your precious information.
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So aside from Videos and Mps3 and some pics, is there really any use for the SD card on this phone?
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32 gigs in the device native, 64 in the slot. 96 gigs of space ( - a bit ) I can't think of any reasons why almost 100 gigs of interactively accessable storage is bad.
What sucks is Instagram won't save to external, I've even contacted them about it and they still haven't done anything about it.
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I put everything on my SD card, (64gb), and really only use internal (16gb) for apps and stuff. So that its always backed up on a removable card
I finally was able to upgrade my tablet.
I do not want to use adoptable storage... but noticed i can no longer move apps to external SD. The ones that were moved previously, im given the option to move them back, but not vice versa. From what im reading this only seems possible now with adoptable storage?
I would just like to know if thats the case. I am on stock... but rooted MM with TWRP recovery.
Yep. It's a security feature in Android now; it is a compromise that Google made with the people who own the phones (and desire to have more storage) and the people who want to make sure that the system is secure (developers, and so on).
If you want to stay on stock those are your choices at the moment.
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Yep. It's a security feature in Android now; it is a compromise that Google made with the people who own the phones (and desire to have more storage) and the people who want to make sure that the system is secure (developers, and so on).
If you want to stay on stock those are your choices at the moment.
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i understand. thanks for the quick reply.
Funny thing is, my Shield TV just updated to MM as well. I opted out of adoptable storage as well, but that still lets me put things on my SD card without issue...
GameOver69 said:
i understand. thanks for the quick reply.
Funny thing is, my Shield TV just updated to MM as well. I opted out of adoptable storage as well, but that still lets me put things on my SD card without issue...
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That is interesting! I hadn't read anyone dealing with the MM on the Shield TV. I don't have one so I hadn't read up on it. I'd hate to think about why that is.
That being said, Samsung and LG have expandable storage on their new phones, but they won't let you adopt them as internal storage, which only confuses the matter more.
I had to format my sdcard to NTFS on lollipop and haven't had trouble with it since the upgrade to mm. I just had to make sure to set the root of the sdcard as the home folder for the file browser
Hello, the SD Card is a SanDisk Ultra 32GB Class 10 HC I and this card keeps unmounting by itself without any warning. I formatted this card to internal storage because my phone only has 8gb of internal storage. I have Ressurection Remix (Nougat) + Fire Kernel installed. Thanks to anyone who can help.
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Hello, the SD Card is a SanDisk Ultra 32GB Class 10 HC I and this card keeps unmounting by itself without any warning. I formatted this card to internal storage because my phone only has 8gb of internal storage. I have Ressurection Remix (Nougat) + Fire Kernel installed. Thanks to anyone who can help.
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I had the exact problem with the same SD card you mentioned. Your SD card is most probably faulty. SanDisk cards are known to have this issue. You can try to format it as fat32 using a card reader and your PC. It might solve your problem.
I bought a new Samsung Evo UHS card and everything works flawlessly now.
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adityak1303 said:
I had the exact problem with the same SD card you mentioned. Your SD card is most probably faulty. SanDisk cards are known to have this issue. You can try to format it as fat32 using a card reader and your PC. It might solve your problem.
I bought a new Samsung Evo UHS card and everything works flawlessly now.
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Is fat32 format like a portable SD card because I've changed the ad card from internal to portable and it says it is in fat32 format. The problem is that I can't find a way to move apps to my external when it's portable.
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Is fat32 format like a portable SD card because I've changed the ad card from internal to portable and it says it is in fat32 format. The problem is that I can't find a way to move apps to my external when it's portable.
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Yeah, you can't have it both ways... either it is portable/external or it is internal/adopted storage, it can't be both. Apps and all data can use it if it is adopted and in portable mode you can only use for storage, like media files, books, documents, etc.
Only way around is Link2SD, which requires partitioning the SD card and root access, and even that is know to not be tolerated well by the G. Sorry.
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Yeah, you can't have it both ways... either it is portable/external or it is internal/adopted storage, it can't be both. Apps and all data can use it if it is adopted and in portable mode you can only use for storage, like media files, books, documents, etc.
Only way around is Link2SD, which requires partitioning the SD card and root access, and even that is know to not be tolerated well by the G. Sorry.
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Aw, well then I will have to consider getting a new SD card as soon as possible . Got any recommended SD cards that is able to be adopted as internal?
R4in_ said:
Aw, well then I will have to consider getting a new SD card as soon as possible . Got any recommended SD cards?
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Samsung EVO+ or EVO Plus (they are different) are the best value and seem the most compatible, although ymmv... it seems like there is no consistency here as some people have good luck with some brands and others don't. Even Sandisk, some people have had them working flawlessly since the G was new, and others can't get them to work a week. It's weird, but Samsung EVO cards seem pretty solid in this device.