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[MOD] Swap Internal SD and External SD

Hey everyone,
Found this mod for the Galaxy S (Or SGSII, not sure what the i9003 is), which switches the Internal and External SD cards, according to the Android OS. Personally, I have a lot more space of my external SD and would like games and such to store their data there, instead of on my smaller internal SD. Some apps like Titanium backup can change their data locations, but Games such as Gameloft games and the like cant have their game data moved to the External SD card atm.
This looks like a great alternative to this issue, could this hack be adapted to the G2x?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088474

Although I could see how you would think this would be in development, this post should actually go in Q&A.
That being said, this would be a very useful modification.
Edit: My apologies. Apparently you posted in precisely the right forum. My apprehension arose from the fact that so many people say 'BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS MODDD??!?!' and it just clutters things up so my immediate reaction was to motion to have it moved. Good deal bringing it to Krylon and Tweezit's attention

I couldnt decide between Q&A and Development for this topic, as it involves porting or adapting a hack for another phone to the G2x.
MODS: Please move this to Q&A, if necessary.
EDIT: Apparently not, this seems to be a development topic now

Here is a file Be warned I have not tested this. If it messes your phone up I am not held responsible. **Personally I would let another dev look at this to be on the safe side as I am not 100% sure on this.**
You will have to extract it and use root explorer to push to /system/etc/
Oh I needed to clarify this was on 2.2.2 so it may differ on 2.3.

Since we have a little interest, we'll leave it for a day or so and see if anything comes of it.
I've PM'd krylon to take a look at Tweezit's vold. (sounds like a nasty STD).

overground said:
Since we have a little interest, we'll leave it for a day or so and see if anything comes of it.
I've PM'd krylon to take a look at Tweezit's vold. (sounds like a nasty STD).
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Smart move as I spent all of 2 minutes looking through the file as I am in a rush to leave
Later guys ^^

I'm looking at this now. Your biggest issue is you are going to have to have 3 different versions... well... in reality 2 different versions. CM based and Non-CM Based.
And if someone flashes the wrong one...they are hosed and will have to restore from a backup

ok, after reviewing Tweezits vold, Bionix vold, and CM7 vold, tweezit's would break mounting.
The reason being, with the introduction of Tegra, the vold changed for it.
I'll have to do some testing, but making the internal to external switch should be fairly easy.

krylon360 said:
I'm looking at this now. Your biggest issue is you are going to have to have 3 different versions... well... in reality 2 different versions. CM based and Non-CM Based.
And if someone flashes the wrong one...they are hosed and will have to restore from a backup
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Eh not bad in my eyes I always do backups
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krylon360 said:
ok, after reviewing Tweezits vold, Bionix vold, and CM7 vold, tweezit's would break mounting.
The reason being, with the introduction of Tegra, the vold changed for it.
I'll have to do some testing, but making the internal to external switch should be fairly easy.
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Is there a way to have setting like a switch to interchange between the two
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Suprah said:
Eh not bad in my eyes I always do backups
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last time I did a backup was when I was testing EXT4/3 restore.

Lol I'm a rom crack addicr
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We need to decide on a standard. Unfortunately some people don't have SD cards but I'm sure most people would that visit here.
I'm for the switch cause i hate crap installing to my internal drive. Cm already made the switch.

player911 said:
We need to decide on a standard. Unfortunately some people don't have SD cards but I'm sure most people would that visit here.
I'm for the switch cause i hate crap installing to my internal drive. Cm already made the switch.
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I'm with you. Maybe we should put together a poll or something...

Multiple versions just confuse the new guys. Would be nice if there was some priority... Like use SD as first choice then fall back on internal if SD is not present.
That still complicates things as people wont know what's going on.
****best idea****
If CWM flips it by default then you can just streamline everything and make a public service announcement on the CWM download page that they will be flipped and an SD is required for flashing. Makes sense to use a SD for flashing anyway.
Even a 2gb is plenty for some Roms and app storage. Save the internal for personal music and other media. I hope no one rocks less then that these days.
Plus if you use internal storage I can see certain scenarios popping up where they are boot looping and lost their access into the internal files. I can't mount using 3.1.0.1 external. If it werent for my SD I'd be stuck hardcore.

player911 said:
Multiple versions just confuse the new guys. Would be nice if there was some priority... Like use SD as first choice then fall back on internal if SD is not present.
That still complicates things as people wont know what's going on.
****best idea****
If CWM flips it by default then you can just streamline everything and make a public service announcement on the CWM download page that they will be flipped and an SD is required for flashing. Makes sense to use a SD for flashing anyway.
Even a 2gb is plenty for some Roms and app storage. Save the internal for personal music and other media. I hope no one rocks less then that these days.
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I'm kind of with you on this one. I use all of my roms and such for the external SD card and everything else for internal.

player911 said:
Multiple versions just confuse the new guys. Would be nice if there was some priority... Like use SD as first choice then fall back on internal if SD is not present.
That still complicates things as people wont know what's going on.
****best idea****
If CWM flips it by default then you can just streamline everything and make a public service announcement on the CWM download page that they will be flipped and an SD is required for flashing. Makes sense to use a SD for flashing anyway.
Even a 2gb is plenty for some Roms and app storage. Save the internal for personal music and other media. I hope no one rocks less then that these days.
Plus if you use internal storage I can see certain scenarios popping up where they are boot looping and lost their access into the internal files. I can't mount using 3.1.0.1 external. If it werent for my SD I'd be stuck hardcore.
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Good point however 5gb of internal space is not enough for me since I have 10gbs of music onmy sd card. I wish there was a way to have a switch function that will enable you to choose which sd crd to download to
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I've attached the CWM flashable .zip of the mod I've been running for awhile that will swap your SDcards. Never been able to get it to mount the external card as a folder inside /sdcard/. Didn't really want to release it until I did, but here ya go anyway
BTW, is it just me, or do init.d scripts not work in CM7?
This is for CyanogenMod only!
I don't have the volds from other builds on hand to mod them....

WOW! I come back from long day of work and find all this discussion.....awesome!! Thanks for chiming in guys. I def understand there will have to be at least 2 versions cause of CM, but as its a file, couldnt a simple app\script be created to swap it back and forth, after detecting CM or not? It may be a lil beyond my scripting knowledge, for the detection portion at least.
I see a ton of useful reasons for this switch, as the 5GB isnt the 13ishGB that the Galaxy S has and doesn't quite satisfy the requirements of a "primary" sdcard IMO. The 5GB would be useful as an "_InternalSD" folder bind\mount (whatever is being used), with the External SD as the main SD card. I'll list a few useful reasons why.....
Off the top of my head......
If your a serious gamer and you have a TON of games that have downloadable files put to the SD card, that 5GB will go quick (Gameloft I'm looking at you)
External SD can hold WAY more nandroid backups than Internal SD, and ROM Manager would recognize them (I acknowledge the external sd issue is not really an issue w/ the two ext4 recoveries)

hiko36 said:
Although I could see how you would think this would be in development, this post should actually go in Q&A.
That being said, this would be a very useful modification.
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I humbly disagree.... If anything it would belong in the General or Development. It is a work towards development and there is no "question" being asked. Just because it isn't a ROM, doesn't make it any less important to work on the phone.
Just my .02

Moving app data to sd card?

Hi,
I would like to know how I can move app data to my SD card.
I understand Samsung have purposely disabled the feature which sucks.
I'm on stock jb at the moment.
Noob instructions would be greatly appreciated

check out my topic i made earlier, the only way to bypass this is to root, i'm still waiting for for a reply to my topic on how to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087934

There is no easy way of doing it you need to have int-d to do it and even then its not an easy solution
Unfortunately its not Samsung but google which has developed the new version in such a way that you cannot move apps one of the reason being their concept that there should be only one memory and hence there is no sd card slots in nexus devices

samir_a said:
There is no easy way of doing it you need to have int-d to do it and even then its not an easy solution
Unfortunately its not Samsung but google which has developed the new version in such a way that you cannot move apps one of the reason being their concept that there should be only one memory and hence there is no sd card slots in nexus devices
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I think I might just return my device then.
11GB is nowhere near enough!
Edit: Definitely returning for a refund.
What's the next best tab to go for?
I only went for the Note 10.1 because there was a great deal on where I saved around £90-£130 ($130-$200)

K1LLER HORNET said:
I think I might just return my device then.
11GB is nowhere near enough!
Edit: Definitely returning for a refund.
What's the next best tab to go for?
I only went for the Note 10.1 because there was a great deal on where I saved around £90-£130 ($130-$200)
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You could get a 32GB model.

ive done it the zedomax way i have 64gb iternal now downside of this is wen transfering movies from pc to tab takes ages

I wish I had got the 32 gig model now but I wasn't expecting this problem, I just have to manage my space a bit more proactively. As I want to use my 64 gig card with exfat (to store films over 4 gig) I have do clockwork backups to my internal SD and then copy them across to get the space back. This is far from ideal but I have got used to it now.
I found that using my SD card as internal SD slowed my device to much for my liking.

I had a 64 gig sd card in mine and I noticed that recovery mode would not see that 64 gig card which was a real pain when trying to use different roms. I put my 32 gig card back in and everything is good

kkretch said:
You could get a 32GB model.
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32gb version not available in the uk, same for the note 2 unfortunately.
OP hope it's not too late, you may want to check out this guide located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2027834
root is required but it's worth it, now the tablet is much useful now.

[Q] How do I make my USB Storage and Internal Storage partitions one in the same?

After reading up a bit on how newer Android phones went about fixing the silliness that comes from having external storage, I realized the Nexus S would be a perfect candidate to convert to the newer MTP method of accessing the device's storage while it's on. I'm already doing this with CM10, but I'm not actually getting much benefit out of it because the device still has an "SD Card". How would I go about merging the data and sd-ext partitions? Since it's all technically one internal flash chip, I don't see there being any major issues with this. Could be very wrong though.
I'm using a Nexus S 4G with CM10 Stable, but I don't think that should terribly matter as long as I'm on a 4.X.X ROM with MTP support.
EDIT: Is this the wrong place for this question? Like, is there somewhere more technical I should post this?

atm153 said:
After reading up a bit on how newer Android phones went about fixing the silliness that comes from having external storage, I realized the Nexus S would be a perfect candidate to convert to the newer MTP method of accessing the device's storage while it's on. I'm already doing this with CM10, but I'm not actually getting much benefit out of it because the device still has an "SD Card". How would I go about merging the data and sd-ext partitions? Since it's all technically one internal flash chip, I don't see there being any major issues with this. Could be very wrong though.
I'm using a Nexus S 4G with CM10 Stable, but I don't think that should terribly matter as long as I'm on a 4.X.X ROM with MTP support.
EDIT: Is this the wrong place for this question? Like, is there somewhere more technical I should post this?
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did you figure out how to make more space for apps?

Help?

Hello all.
Has anyone used link2sd with the shield tablet and if so does it work and also is it worth getting the 16gb version or just wait for the 32gb, I was looking forward to buying the 32gb today but then found out it has been put back till the 30/09/14:crying: and has anyone used a scandisk 128gb ultra class 10 with the tablet and are they any good

john09121 said:
Hello all.
Has anyone used link2sd with the shield tablet and if so does it work and also is it worth getting the 16gb version or just wait for the 32gb, I was looking forward to buying the 32gb today but then found out it has been put back till the 30/09/14:crying: and has anyone used a scandisk 128gb ultra class 10 with the tablet and are they any good
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See post #88 >http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...ablet-otas-t2847116/post55083932#post55083932

john09121 said:
Hello all.
Has anyone used link2sd with the shield tablet and if so does it work and also is it worth getting the 16gb version or just wait for the 32gb, I was looking forward to buying the 32gb today but then found out it has been put back till the 30/09/14:crying: and has anyone used a scandisk 128gb ultra class 10 with the tablet and are they any good
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If you decide to buy, I would recommend the 32GB. I find myself shuffling games between the SD card and internal storage.
Having said that, if you plan to play tegra games be aware that the tablet still loses charge when plugged in to an outlet. Nvidia has not acknowledged this yet.

john09121 said:
Hello all.
Has anyone used link2sd with the shield tablet and if so does it work and also is it worth getting the 16gb version or just wait for the 32gb, I was looking forward to buying the 32gb today but then found out it has been put back till the 30/09/14:crying: and has anyone used a scandisk 128gb ultra class 10 with the tablet and are they any good
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Yep I used it, and found that it worked. But, I did find that trying to flash updates that clobber root make for a stressful experience when trying to set up the tablet again.
The app puts a config file on your internal sdcard that basically makes the user partition invisible to the tablet until you get the external sdcard relinked again. Then all your apps show up again.
With the baked in solution NVidia offers, you can use the external sdcard for other stuff. With link2sd, your sdcard is your internal card.
I wouldn't mind trying foldermount to see if that differs in features and reliability.

Foldermount is my preference used both.
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jaredmorgs said:
Yep I used it, and found that it worked. But, I did find that trying to flash updates that clobber root make for a stressful experience when trying to set up the tablet again.
The app puts a config file on your internal sdcard that basically makes the user partition invisible to the tablet until you get the external sdcard relinked again. Then all your apps show up again.
With the baked in solution NVidia offers, you can use the external sdcard for other stuff. With link2sd, your sdcard is your internal card.
I wouldn't mind trying foldermount to see if that differs in features and reliability.
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Interesting. I have the plus version of both, but have used link2sd as it seems to have more scope of files. I don't really want my 64gb card in 2 partitions though. You think the stock method is the best? What do you then use folder mount for

berryman13 said:
Interesting. I have the plus version of both, but have used link2sd as it seems to have more scope of files. I don't really want my 64gb card in 2 partitions though. You think the stock method is the best? What do you then use folder mount for
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Phew, this turned out to be a long post (sorry about that).
Regarding the question about splitting your SD card
If you only want to use your 64gb card specifically as the symlinked device SSD, then you only need to put a small NTFS (from memory) partition as the first partition.
Again, it was a while ago, but I believe it only needs to be 10mb or something miniscule. link2sd then treats that as the "windows/mtp/ptp" directory, and the second partition with the remaining size formatted to EXT4 (again, read the docs: the file system type is explicitly stated) is the symlinked SSD.
Regarding your question about stock method/foldermount
I've been upgraded to an LTE 32GB, so I don't need to use this solution any more. I found that most games with a huge DLC bundle (Anomaly 2/Defenders, Sine Mora) allow you to offload the obb file to the ext sdcard anyhow.
The only advantage that could be worth investigating would be whether implementing link2sd or foldermount would allow you to continue to use the symlinked sdcard when you connect it to a PC. I seem to remember that when I did that with the stock solution, there was a caveat that some apps would stop working correctly because windows would steal the sdcard mountpoint for itself, thereby rendering the apps offloaded to the sdcard unavailable.
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I would not bother unless you have a lot of large games, or heaps of local music or videos stored on your device.

So what do i do to make more than 500mb of free space available on my internal SD again, androids file move system?
Thanks for asking he write up

How do you guys do it w/o sdcard....

I'm trying to find out how you guys manage without a sdcard...do you carry a otg cable and usb stick always with you... Just asking if I should trade in my HTC ONE M8...for a OpP...Can you please explain....

I use air droid / es file manager to access file wireless.

I'm talking about your nandroids backups...and personal stuff incase I wanted to change roms.... My SdCard holds all my personal stuff and when I flash other roms to test ....my sdcard does not get touched...

^^ the one plus one has a "virtual" SDcard... which all data stays perstiant on between flashing...IIRC

So your saying is that this Virtual SDCard...uses up the 64gig that the unit comes with.???

not all 64...looking at my phone it says 54gb total

64 - UsedBySystem = More than enough
For Nandroid backups I use a USB Stick and then store it on the server, for pictures or so I use Airdroid.

Ok guys thanks...now the question...do I trade..my M8..to 1+1... Or wait for 1+2..

JohnM109R said:
I'm trying to find out how you guys manage without a sdcard...do you carry a otg cable and usb stick always with you... Just asking if I should trade in my HTC ONE M8...for a OpP...Can you please explain....
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JohnM109R said:
I'm talking about your nandroids backups...and personal stuff incase I wanted to change roms.... My SdCard holds all my personal stuff and when I flash other roms to test ....my sdcard does not get touched...
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So your saying is that this Virtual SDCard...uses up the 64gig that the unit comes with.???
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As previously stated, your personal data is never wiped unless you actually do it yourself, this is standard for any device that doesn't use an external sd card. The 64gb overall storage is partitioned in such a way that you end up with about 55gb for yourself, with the rest taken up by the ROM and other system needs. And yes, I'd ditch the HTC for this phone in a heartbeat.
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Thanks needed that extra explanation...
Now to trade up thanks

JohnM109R said:
Thanks needed that extra explanation...
Now to trade up thanks
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Like everyone else stated, your files will remain untouched while flashing a new rom (unless and until u manually wipe them from recovery). I keep my nandroid on my phone itself, but i actually prefer having my OTG pendrive along with me all the time. i have made a backup of all my important files on it as well. reg jumping from M8 to the One, 1+2 is still some time away from us (late Q2 or maybe Q3 of 2015), so 1+1 is still your best bet. I had a nexus 5, sold it off to get 1+1. no regrets! heck, the lollipop roms here are as stable as the nexus 5 ones.

I had the S4, then M8, then nexus 5 (16gb). Didn't have the nexus that long, and sort of missed having the extra storage. But didn't miss the SD card coming to OPO as theres plenty with the 64gb version. If anything I'm more put off by 16 GB phone models even with the sd card. The nexus isn't too bad as it's pretty bloat free but with the 16gb S4 or M8 I was still mindful of the internal storage as you lose a fair amount for the OS and you can't move all apps to the SD. Hopefully manufacturers ditch the 16gb models soon. Even a 32gb model with and external SD would be fine, but 16gb feels a bit stingey these days.

gsmyth said:
I had the S4, then M8, then nexus 5 (16gb). Didn't have the nexus that long, and sort of missed having the extra storage. But didn't miss the SD card coming to OPO as theres plenty with the 64gb version. If anything I'm more put off by 16 GB phone models even with the sd card. The nexus isn't too bad as it's pretty bloat free but with the 16gb S4 or M8 I was still mindful of the internal storage as you lose a fair amount for the OS and you can't move all apps to the SD. Hopefully manufacturers ditch the 16gb models soon. Even a 32gb model with and external SD would be fine, but 16gb feels a bit stingey these days.
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Absolutely. My last device was the 16gb HTC One XL and in reality you only end up with under 10gb user-accessible space, which gets used up pretty quickly.