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ICS Update Galaxy Tab Wifi (GT-P6210)???

Has samsung released when they are planning on releasing the ICS update for the wifi version? Or is it possible to make an ICS rom for p6210 from what they have released?

Best to wait for an official release. From what I've seen, there is a lot of bugginess in the current CM9 builds. It can't be too far off now.
...I hope
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There has not been any specific date announced for Samsung's US 6210 release. Apparently at least one UK user has it already.
CM9 is really close. WIFI should be working now.

Samsung US is the slowest of the slow
It always takes Samsung US the longest to release updates. They are horrifically slow so just hang in there. A concept Samsung (overall) has never grasped is that these user forums do not differentiate between the the different country models when they create a forum for a device (which the forums shouldn't have to do anyway). The problem that Samsung seems oblivious to is that if you perform upgrades to the devices for Asian countries but neglect to do so for Europe or the United States in any type of timely matter, it just creates very ill will on the parts of the world that they seem to be ignoring. It becomes a case of the "have's" and the "have not's". Unfortunately the upper management at Samsung are "have not's" when it comes to brains and I doubt they will ever figure out that they give the appearance of screwing over some of their customers. This is not to say that the P6210 will not get its upgrade. I am sure it will. You just have to wait for the incredibly slow and somewhat brain dead people at Samsung. Isn't their company motto...."We love your money, we could just care-a-less about you?

k_t_b said:
There has not been any specific date announced for Samsung's US 6210 release. Apparently at least one UK user has it already.
CM9 is really close. WIFI should be working now.
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Where did you read that a UK user has it already? I'm in the UK and my P6210 is decidedly un-ICSed!

memoreks said:
Where did you read that a UK user has it already? I'm in the UK and my P6210 is decidedly un-ICSed!
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See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28725729
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i connected P6210 in both UK and Austria today and update wasnt available in either location
lol at this POS branded tablet. i would buy nexus 7 if it was availble in this region (it isnt)

ccpotato said:
i connected P6210 in both UK and Austria today and update wasnt available in either location
lol at this POS branded tablet. i would buy nexus 7 if it was availble in this region (it isnt)
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Really? Its not even that big a deal. If you are going to lose your cool, just Odin the stock firmware that has been posted. The stock ICS experience is awesome.

yep... used Odin to put on posted firmware and this thing is NICE now
finally it matches the experience of my phone (galaxy nexus on 4.x)

Note 10.1 2014 edition to our tablet?

Guys, is there any chance for us to get official update to 2014ths features? Or even unofficial updates, with TwROM functionalities?
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CiberwolF3000 said:
Guys, is there any chance for us to get official update to 2014ths features? Or even unofficial updates, with TwROM functionalities?
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The question shall be different: is there any chance for us to get ANY official update.
And the answer seems to be obvious: NO.
That's Sammy's policy. N10.1 was not selling as expected - so let's show its users a middle finger. After being a Sammy's loyal client for almost 10 years - that's the absolute end, as it is the 4th device which was left without serious updates (other than cosmetic ones...) in less than a half-year after debut.

esgie said:
The question shall be different: is there any chance for us to get ANY official update.
And the answer seems to be obvious: NO.
That's Sammy's policy.
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You have been told this by someone at Samsung?
If not....... can you send me the link to were you read about this being Samsung's policy.
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I actually work with a Samsung Solutions Architect, and according to a conference call that I had this morning regarding a beta I am running on the Note 3 and Knox. Samsung is in the final stages of testing with Samsung Knox and the Galaxy Note 10.1, the problem any Carrier branded Note 10.1 has is that IT IS THE CARRIER who says when the updates get pushed out. Samsung has a 4.3 update for "legacy" devices, but with the partnership they have with the carriers ATT, Tmobile VZW and Sprint, the carriers are the ones who are not signing off on the updates. In the case of the Gt-N8013 I have NO clue what the hold up is besides the beta test for knox that I am part of. During the conference call I asked the Director of SEA Knox Development team when this will be brought to the 2012 version of Galaxy Note 10.1 and his reply is they are aggressively working on the update and it should be done soon. Now I know that doesn't mean much but at least it shows Samsung didn't just drop the 2012 version they just "need" more time to test it out. That is actually why I am part of the SEA KNOX BETA that will run the first qt of the new year.

mikejones13 said:
I actually work with a Samsung Solutions Architect, and according to a conference call that I had this morning regarding a beta I am running on the Note 3 and Knox. Samsung is in the final stages of testing with Samsung Knox and the Galaxy Note 10.1, the problem any Carrier branded Note 10.1 has is that IT IS THE CARRIER who says when the updates get pushed out. Samsung has a 4.3 update for "legacy" devices, but with the partnership they have with the carriers ATT, Tmobile VZW and Sprint, the carriers are the ones who are not signing off on the updates. In the case of the Gt-N8013 I have NO clue what the hold up is besides the beta test for knox that I am part of. During the conference call I asked the Director of SEA Knox Development team when this will be brought to the 2012 version of Galaxy Note 10.1 and his reply is they are aggressively working on the update and it should be done soon. Now I know that doesn't mean much but at least it shows Samsung didn't just drop the 2012 version they just "need" more time to test it out. That is actually why I am part of the SEA KNOX BETA that will run the first qt of the new year.
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Thats why Sammy shouldnt release so many devices. It costs them more money and more time to update since they have so many devices. I bought this tablet because I thought it was their flag ship tablet that means it would get update faster but I was totally wrong. I wont buy any ****ty tablet from Samsung again.

mikejones13 said:
I actually work with a Samsung Solutions Architect, and according to a conference call that I had this morning regarding a beta I am running on the Note 3 and Knox. Samsung is in the final stages of testing with Samsung Knox and the Galaxy Note 10.1, the problem any Carrier branded Note 10.1 has is that IT IS THE CARRIER who says when the updates get pushed out. Samsung has a 4.3 update for "legacy" devices, but with the partnership they have with the carriers ATT, Tmobile VZW and Sprint, the carriers are the ones who are not signing off on the updates. In the case of the Gt-N8013 I have NO clue what the hold up is besides the beta test for knox that I am part of. During the conference call I asked the Director of SEA Knox Development team when this will be brought to the 2012 version of Galaxy Note 10.1 and his reply is they are aggressively working on the update and it should be done soon. Now I know that doesn't mean much but at least it shows Samsung didn't just drop the 2012 version they just "need" more time to test it out. That is actually why I am part of the SEA KNOX BETA that will run the first qt of the new year.
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my dear friend mikejones13
thanks for your honest and precise answer
but the question being asked is somehow different than what u said
what i care most is the "feature pack" presented with the new note! it's my right and i want all of those capabilities on my N8000!
ps: u see? i am not looking for just an update! having waited so long makes me worry if I am gonna get something valuable in return or not!
I'd asked the same question before and got no answers

Basic answer with all upgrades is you may get them . But you have no entitlement to them you never bought them in the first place . Plus at some stage the apps may be ported .

devil28 said:
my dear friend mikejones13
thanks for your honest and precise answer
but the question being asked is somehow different than what u said
what i care most is the "feature pack" presented with the new note! it's my right and i want all of those capabilities on my N8000!
ps: u see? i am not looking for just an update! having waited so long makes me worry if I am gonna get something valuable in return or not!
I'd asked the same question before and got no answers
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Well I think you have your "right" mixed up with your "want" Samsung doesn't owe you anything for buying the 2012 version of the galaxy note 10.1 they are under no obligation to provide you with the the new features of the 2014 edition. If and I do mean if we get them, then that was mighty nice of Samsung. Otherwise if it is so important to get the new features I suggest porting the rom over to these devices. Don't get me wrong I would like the features as well considering I am the admin for my job and I have deployed 800+ 2012 Galaxy Note 10.1's to our students and staff. I don't remember Samsung saying you get X amount of updates on x amount of years when you buy a device.
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mikejones13 said:
Well I think you have your "right" mixed up with your "want" Samsung doesn't owe you anything for buying the 2012 version of the galaxy note 10.1 they are under no obligation to provide you with the the new features of the 2014 edition. If and I do mean if we get them, then that was mighty nice of Samsung. Otherwise if it is so important to get the new features I suggest porting the rom over to these devices. Don't get me wrong I would like the features as well considering I am the admin for my job and I have deployed 800+ 2012 Galaxy Note 10.1's to our students and staff. I don't remember Samsung saying you get X amount of updates on x amount of years when you buy a device.
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Yes, Samsung didnt say anything and it doesnt need to even say anything. But when they chose Android OS they knew that every companies working with Android know that everybody having an android device are expecting to get updates - it is a nature of android. It developes fast.. What do you expect to happen if Apple did the same? "Sorry, but no new ios for u, just buy a new iWhatever?" Even the dumbiest sheep will be lost...
As you probably have seen it in a real life too, Samsung just has too many devices to kerp updated and they still dont stop. Every week they launch a new device, just changed something just a little bit to get a new toy - today it was a some model with a screen size 8.2", tomorrow they launch it again, but it will have a 8.3" screen. On next week they change it a little bit again and it is now called "pro". How can you even think about any updates nowadays!? It's crazy already, they are just flooding the markets!
And what comes to updates, i give a **** what carriers want or not. Remember that people live outside usa too. In Europe most of us dont have any carrier linked, bloatware devices. Like i am using an international version (nordic actually) of N8000, and no carriers. Why isnt this one updated? No need to wait carriers and their bloatware or anything... It is just an excuse. I only hope Samsung has faced the problem they did all by themselves flooding with billion devices. Unfortunately customers are those who pay the price!
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mikejones13 said:
they are under no obligation to provide you with the the new features of the 2014 edition.
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true.
However, it would be nice if they would close that ugly Exynos security hole ...

mm update 955 uk

hi i have a h955 bought in the uk on O2.
is it likely i will get the MM update OTA or is flashing 20_C going to be the only way?
currently on Android 5.1.1 - 15_C_eur

Ask O2.

incase anyone is interested ....
spoke to O2 this the response i got.
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I'm sorry to tell you Tim, they are lying to you.
I've been with O2 for about 8 years and I've never had any notification from THEM to say that my phone can be updated.
O2 have no control over firmware updates on the devices they sell.
It's a good and a bad thing.
It's good because they don't preload the phones with dozens of their own apps, you get the devices how the manufacturer intended.
It's bad because they're absolutely useless when you have a problem and they lie to you about the level of control they have over your devices.

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I'm sorry to tell you Tim, they are lying to you.
I've been with O2 for about 8 years and I've never had any notification from THEM to say that my phone can be updated.
O2 have no control over firmware updates on the devices they sell.
It's a good and a bad thing.
It's good because they don't preload the phones with dozens of their own apps, you get the devices how the manufacturer intended.
It's bad because they're absolutely useless when you have a problem and they lie to you about the level of control they have over your devices.
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Obviously weren't lying as i got the update this morning through pc suite.

Question About Galaxy J3 Emerge (SM-J327P, Boost Mobile)

...I've tried to find out how to update this bloody thing to Nougat, but to no avail whatsoever. Google has turned up nothing up to date, the folks at Samsung don't seem to know jack (but I bet they can write BOOKS about flagships & recent former flagships like the S8 line & S7 line), and the folks at Boost are even MORE clueless. (And please believe me...I am trying to be as polite as possible - an insanely difficult task given just how violently furious I am!!)
Making matters worse is that I just learned earlier that the Sprint version J3 Emerge - EXACT SAME MODEL, SM-J327P - has already gotten the Nougat update...and even THEY have no idea what Boost is doing or when they'll get the update out. (And it doesn't help that Boost doesn't have a clue, swearing that it's up to the manufacturer, while Samsung also has no clue, swearing that it's up to the carrier. LIES. Somebody has to know SOMETHING!!) For that matter, even the AT&T version (SM-J327A, renamed something stupid like Galaxy Express Prime 2 or something equally Verizon-level dumb) has Nougat STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BOX.
So what gives!? Is there any way to upgrade this thing, or is there some sort of port of the Sprint Nougat firmware - which has to be beyond the QF4 baseband - with a Boost fix (akin to how the AT&T and T-Mobile Galaxy S7s can have the SM-G930U firmware flashed to them)? Or should I just chuck this piece of junk into a wall repeatedly and pony up precious funds for something that actually DOES get updates (and preferably with another carrier, as I'm sick of these Shanahanegans from Boost)!?

FireConvoy said:
...I've tried to find out how to update this bloody thing to Nougat, but to no avail whatsoever. Google has turned up nothing up to date, the folks at Samsung don't seem to know jack (but I bet they can write BOOKS about flagships & recent former flagships like the S8 line & S7 line), and the folks at Boost are even MORE clueless. (And please believe me...I am trying to be as polite as possible - an insanely difficult task given just how violently furious I am!!)
Making matters worse is that I just learned earlier that the Sprint version J3 Emerge - EXACT SAME MODEL, SM-J327P - has already gotten the Nougat update...and even THEY have no idea what Boost is doing or when they'll get the update out. (And it doesn't help that Boost doesn't have a clue, swearing that it's up to the manufacturer, while Samsung also has no clue, swearing that it's up to the carrier. LIES. Somebody has to know SOMETHING!!) For that matter, even the AT&T version (SM-J327A, renamed something stupid like Galaxy Express Prime 2 or something equally Verizon-level dumb) has Nougat STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BOX.
So what gives!? Is there any way to upgrade this thing, or is there some sort of port of the Sprint Nougat firmware - which has to be beyond the QF4 baseband - with a Boost fix (akin to how the AT&T and T-Mobile Galaxy S7s can have the SM-G930U firmware flashed to them)? Or should I just chuck this piece of junk into a wall repeatedly and pony up precious funds for something that actually DOES get updates (and preferably with another carrier, as I'm sick of these Shanahanegans from Boost)!?
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I understand what you mean and it's exactly why I don't like dealing with customer service, try this the next time, just ask for the manager and then you might get a better turnout

SonderTech said:
I understand what you mean and it's exactly why I don't like dealing with customer service, try this the next time, just ask for the manager and then you might get a better turnout
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Tried that last night when I called Boost AND Samsung. Unfortunately, the managers I spoke with were just as braindead as the representatives. Honestly, I find it impossible that entire staffing teams could be that incompetent. I mean, how do they even get these jobs when they know nothing about their products!?

FireConvoy said:
Tried that last night when I called Boost AND Samsung. Unfortunately, the managers I spoke with were just as braindead as the representatives. Honestly, I find it impossible that entire staffing teams could be that incompetent. I mean, how do they even get these jobs when they know nothing about their products!?
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I honestly don't know but LG is the same way.
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FireConvoy said:
...I've tried to find out how to update this bloody thing to Nougat, but to no avail whatsoever. Google has turned up nothing up to date, the folks at Samsung don't seem to know jack (but I bet they can write BOOKS about flagships & recent former flagships like the S8 line & S7 line), and the folks at Boost are even MORE clueless. (And please believe me...I am trying to be as polite as possible - an insanely difficult task given just how violently furious I am!!)
Making matters worse is that I just learned earlier that the Sprint version J3 Emerge - EXACT SAME MODEL, SM-J327P - has already gotten the Nougat update...and even THEY have no idea what Boost is doing or when they'll get the update out. (And it doesn't help that Boost doesn't have a clue, swearing that it's up to the manufacturer, while Samsung also has no clue, swearing that it's up to the carrier. LIES. Somebody has to know SOMETHING!!) For that matter, even the AT&T version (SM-J327A, renamed something stupid like Galaxy Express Prime 2 or something equally Verizon-level dumb) has Nougat STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BOX.
So what gives!? Is there any way to upgrade this thing, or is there some sort of port of the Sprint Nougat firmware - which has to be beyond the QF4 baseband - with a Boost fix (akin to how the AT&T and T-Mobile Galaxy S7s can have the SM-G930U firmware flashed to them)? Or should I just chuck this piece of junk into a wall repeatedly and pony up precious funds for something that actually DOES get updates (and preferably with another carrier, as I'm sick of these Shanahanegans from Boost)!?
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I checked sammobile and no one has 7.0 for our device yet.

SonderTech said:
I honestly don't know but LG is the same way.
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I checked sammobile and no one has 7.0 for our device yet.
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LG has a bunch of imbeciles. Been that way with them since the LG Optimus S/V. As for SamMobile... either that site's outdated or the Sprint rep I spoke to last night had no clue what she was talking about - I asked her specifically about this phone (SM-J327P), seeing as they have the exact same model, and she said that they got the Nougat update...

FireConvoy said:
LG has a bunch of imbeciles. Been that way with them since the LG Optimus S/V. As for SamMobile... either that site's outdated or the Sprint rep I spoke to last night had no clue what she was talking about - I asked her specifically about this phone (SM-J327P), seeing as they have the exact same model, and she said that they got the Nougat update...
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I could check again next week, if they uploaded it but chances are it's not sammobile depending on when they sent the update out, that's where I get the majority of my firmware for my devices.

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I honestly don't know but LG is the same way.
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I checked sammobile and no one has 7.0 for our device yet.
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The version of this phone... Model in my Tapatalk sig... Came with 7 out of the box
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rignfool said:
The version of this phone... Model in my Tapatalk sig... Came with 7 out of the box
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The AT&T version. Exactly my point. The European release also comes with Nougat out the box. And Sprint just got the Nougat update (unless that chick ain't know what she was talking about). So HOW is it even remotely possible that NOBODY knows anything about the Boost variant when it's the same bloody model as the Sprint one (SM-J327P)!? Like I said, LIES. There's absolutely zero chance whatsoever that absolutely NOBODY would have ZERO knowledge of when the update would drop for it. And also like I said, I bet that if it were a flagship or a recent former flagship, these clowns would know enough to write a book or ten about it.
(Edit: Nevermind about that question about your baseband)
Okay...interesting...I just looked up the AT&T version. Check this out:
Android version: 7.0
Security patch level (SPL): June 1, 2017
Baseband version: J327AUCU1AQF4
SAME security patch. Almost IDENTICAL baseband (Boost is J327PVPU1AQF4). So why the bloody deuce isn't the Boost version on Nougat!?

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The AT&T version. Exactly my point. The European release also comes with Nougat out the box. And Sprint just got the Nougat update (unless that chick ain't know what she was talking about). So HOW is it even remotely possible that NOBODY knows anything about the Boost variant when it's the same bloody model as the Sprint one (SM-J327P)!? Like I said, LIES. There's absolutely zero chance whatsoever that absolutely NOBODY would have ZERO knowledge of when the update would drop for it. And also like I said, I bet that if it were a flagship or a recent former flagship, these clowns would know enough to write a book or ten about it.
(Edit: Nevermind about that question about your baseband)
Okay...interesting...I just looked up the AT&T version. Check this out:
Android version: 7.0
Security patch level (SPL): June 1, 2017
Baseband version: J327AUCU1AQF4
SAME security patch. Almost IDENTICAL baseband (Boost is J327PVPU1AQF4). So why the bloody deuce isn't the Boost version on Nougat!?
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Not for nothing... But what do you expect out of a sub $100 device?
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rignfool said:
Not for nothing... But what do you expect out of a sub $100 device?
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What would I expect...hmm...perhaps that all variants of the same device are treated equally? It makes zero sense that every variant of this thing EXCEPT the Boost Mobile one either already comes with Nougat (AT&T, Metro PCS, T-Mobile) or just recently got it (Sprint, the closest thing to Boost). And that nobody between the folks at Boost and the folks at Samsung seems to know anything is beyond impossible.
The latest person I spoke with over the phone basically said I should go to a Samsung Experience shop at Best Buy and see if they can help. Now...if the clueless peeps over the phone couldn't do anything...what made her think that some random folks at a display area within a store (that probably know even LESS) could do anything!?

FireConvoy said:
What would I expect...hmm...perhaps that all variants of the same device are treated equally? It makes zero sense that every variant of this thing EXCEPT the Boost Mobile one either already comes with Nougat (AT&T, Metro PCS, T-Mobile) or just recently got it (Sprint, the closest thing to Boost). And that nobody between the folks at Boost and the folks at Samsung seems to know anything is beyond impossible.
The latest person I spoke with over the phone basically said I should go to a Samsung Experience shop at Best Buy and see if they can help. Now...if the clueless peeps over the phone couldn't do anything...what made her think that some random folks at a display area within a store (that probably know even LESS) could do anything!?
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There is a VERY important difference between the models that you are overlooking...
All the devices that currently have Nougat on it... Are all GSM based... Which is what most of the world uses...
Boost, sprint, Verizon, and us Cellular... Are all CDMA carriers... Which, afaik, are only available in the US... CDMA is an old outdated method of wireless transfer... And if Verizon wasn't so big... Probably wouldn't exist anymore...
So yeah... Fair treatment and all that... But for 20% of the people who might use the phone... You have to see how it isn't cost effective to develop... Especially since you are in the minority as most would just use whatever is on the device...
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rignfool said:
There is a VERY important difference between the models that you are overlooking...
All the devices that currently have Nougat on it... Are all GSM based... Which is what most of the world uses...
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Good point. Except as I said, Sprint seems to have just recently gotten Nougat (unless the rep I spoke with didn't know what she was talking about). So that potentially makes one CDMA variant with it...and the Sprint variant's base model number is SM-J327P, just like the Boost one. (It does get a little different when you get into full model numbers - SM-J327PZSASPR for Sprint but SM-J327PZSABST for Boost) So if the Sprint one really has received the update, then perhaps there's some interior carrier workings that I'm unaware of (from a consumer standpoint) that would possibly prevent Nougat from even being possible at all on the Boost version. But it doesn't help that absolutely nobody at Samsung or at Boost knows anything. How do they even have these jobs when they don't know anything about the products?

FireConvoy said:
Good point. Except as I said, Sprint seems to have just recently gotten Nougat (unless the rep I spoke with didn't know what she was talking about). So that potentially makes one CDMA variant with it...and the Sprint variant's base model number is SM-J327P, just like the Boost one. (It does get a little different when you get into full model numbers - SM-J327PZSASPR for Sprint but SM-J327PZSABST for Boost) So if the Sprint one really has received the update, then perhaps there's some interior carrier workings that I'm unaware of (from a consumer standpoint) that would possibly prevent Nougat from even being possible at all on the Boost version. But it doesn't help that absolutely nobody at Samsung or at Boost knows anything. How do they even have these jobs when they don't know anything about the products?
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You've never read Dilbert?
You've never seen how programmers talk about sales people?
Like I said... Understanding tech more than just using it... Is not normal... Most people don't mess with devices like you see people here on XDA...
Think about it from an end user perspective... What big change happened between marshmallow and nougat that would warrant the cost of bringing up a low end device?
These are paid developers...
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Think about it from an end user perspective... What big change happened between marshmallow and nougat that would warrant the cost of bringing up a low end device?
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I would assume that the "big change" between Marshmallow & Nougat would be the same that would warrant the cost of updating mid-level and especially flagship level devices. But, that's probably an irrelevant point, and I don't want to come across as trying to make an argument of it. Odds are, more end users are on mid-levels & flagships and some of them expect to have the latest & greatest software on it...at least until the next big thing comes along. In that regard, any costs of updates for higher level devices are indeed logical. My thing is that for one variant of a low-level device to be left in the cold while other variants of the exact same device either get updated or have an update immediately out of the packaging doesn't seem logical. Unless, of course, it was the proverbial "beta test" before a wider release.
I did a little more researching...the Verizon variant (SM-J327V, called the Samsung Galaxy J3 Eclipse...probably because Verizon LOVES to rename things) also has Nougat now...which makes two CDMA variants. I guess at this point, it doesn't matter; if the folks at Boost Mobile (and Samsung, with their outdated website info) have no knowledge despite any and all facts presented to them, then odds are probably high that this version of the device simply won't get updated at all.

Funny how supposedly the CDMA carriers don't get the newer updates, yet Verizon's variant came with Nougat out of the box and Sprints was updated and US Cellular's J3 (2017)[which by a simple googling...is what the Emerge is commonly refered to as with it's variants across all the carriers] has Nougat out of the box.
Now, I don't know about you...but the MVNOs of one of the carriers that supposedly doesn't have Nougat based on the bollocks that it's "CDMA" is the only one out of ALL the carriers that have this phone or its variants is ludicrous. The ODIN package for my phone is for Sprint and both of its MVNOs, which makes me wonder what the hell Boost and Virgin Mobile are doing when they should honestly get the same updates that Sprint gets.

rignfool said:
There is a VERY important difference between the models that you are overlooking...
All the devices that currently have Nougat on it... Are all GSM based... Which is what most of the world uses...
Boost, sprint, Verizon, and us Cellular... Are all CDMA carriers... Which, afaik, are only available in the US... CDMA is an old outdated method of wireless transfer... And if Verizon wasn't so big... Probably wouldn't exist anymore...
So yeah... Fair treatment and all that... But for 20% of the people who might use the phone... You have to see how it isn't cost effective to develop... Especially since you are in the minority as most would just use whatever is on the device...
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the verizon variant J327V eclipse received 7.0 btw

I has one thing to say...
I have been doing A LOT of research about Boost's variant of the J327P the last week or so because my boyfriend softbricked his and I had to fix it, and have only seem to come up with one conclusion about Boost Mobile itself. Boost Mobile really just sucks donkey **** when it comes to support for devices. I can't think of any other way to put it. I say this because even when Sprint's variant was still running Marshmallow, Sprint released SOOO many more updates on firmware than Boost has. It's actually to the point where my brain literally hurts and I legitimately contemplated whether or not getting stung by 5 billion wasps would be a better solution than trying to figure out what the **** Boost Mobile is doing when it comes to releasing software updates for ALL of their phones. Not just this one. In fact, my head hurts so badly from trying to come up with a viable reason as to why Boost doesn't release updates as often as other phone carriers do, that I would almost rather stab myself in the eye with a corkscrew and remove it wine cork style than try to think about this any longer.
*sigh* If you manage to figure out anything new on the subject, please pm me. It'd be nice to be in touch with someone who actually understands things about this particular phone since my boyfriend seems to like it so much and makes me fix it every time it gets stuck booting. I am currently fixing it because it randomly factory reset itself and enabled the FRP lock. No joke, he unlocked the screen on his phone to google something, it said, "**** your google question," and reset itself. :crying: My only advice on this phone is to immediately find the nearest boulder and SMASH it to bits.

yeahsoimelaine said:
I have been doing A LOT of research about Boost's variant of the J327P the last week or so because my boyfriend softbricked his and I had to fix it, and have only seem to come up with one conclusion about Boost Mobile itself. Boost Mobile really just sucks donkey **** when it comes to support for devices. I can't think of any other way to put it. I say this because even when Sprint's variant was still running Marshmallow, Sprint released SOOO many more updates on firmware than Boost has. It's actually to the point where my brain literally hurts and I legitimately contemplated whether or not getting stung by 5 billion wasps would be a better solution than trying to figure out what the **** Boost Mobile is doing when it comes to releasing software updates for ALL of their phones. Not just this one. In fact, my head hurts so badly from trying to come up with a viable reason as to why Boost doesn't release updates as often as other phone carriers do, that I would almost rather stab myself in the eye with a corkscrew and remove it wine cork style than try to think about this any longer.
*sigh* If you manage to figure out anything new on the subject, please pm me. It'd be nice to be in touch with someone who actually understands things about this particular phone since my boyfriend seems to like it so much and makes me fix it every time it gets stuck booting. I am currently fixing it because it randomly factory reset itself and enabled the FRP lock. No joke, he unlocked the screen on his phone to google something, it said, "**** your google question," and reset itself. :crying: My only advice on this phone is to immediately find the nearest boulder and SMASH it to bits.
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Would you be willing to root it and flash either a magiskSU or a SuperSU custom ROM?

SonderTech said:
Would you be willing to root it and flash either a magiskSU or a SuperSU custom ROM?
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It was already rooted using SuperSu. It's back to stock now, but I'd have to ask my boyfriend if he wants it rooted again cause it's his phone. If it was mine, I'd say hell yeah. Unfortunately, I have a ZTE Warp 7 (N9519) and ZTE all but vanquished any type of access to the bootloader. It's virtually nonexistent and that's not a joke by any means. So my phone is extremely hard to root. If you'd like to give it a go, just let me know because I just got my hands on a Galaxy Note 5 for free that I'm about to switch to and I don't care much for the ZTE. I actually recently won $60 on a bet between myself and a friend of mine who has rooted every phone he's ever touched that he wouldn't be able to root my Warp 7. I thought that my pockets were going to be $60 lighter but I was wrong. I can't say that I can pay you or that its even worth your time, but if you can get my ZTE rooted for the sole purpose of sticking it to the man (ZTE in this case) I'd definately love for my phone to be your guinea pig. It's better than my other plans for the device which may or may not include mailing it to ZTE in a bag filled with urine and feces. -.-

yeahsoimelaine said:
It was already rooted using SuperSu. It's back to stock now, but I'd have to ask my boyfriend if he wants it rooted again cause it's his phone. If it was mine, I'd say hell yeah. Unfortunately, I have a ZTE Warp 7 (N9519) and ZTE all but vanquished any type of access to the bootloader. It's virtually nonexistent and that's not a joke by any means. So my phone is extremely hard to root. If you'd like to give it a go, just let me know because I just got my hands on a Galaxy Note 5 for free that I'm about to switch to and I don't care much for the ZTE. I actually recently won $60 on a bet between myself and a friend of mine who has rooted every phone he's ever touched that he wouldn't be able to root my Warp 7. I thought that my pockets were going to be $60 lighter but I was wrong. I can't say that I can pay you or that its even worth your time, but if you can get my ZTE rooted for the sole purpose of sticking it to the man (ZTE in this case) I'd definately love for my phone to be your guinea pig. It's better than my other plans for the device which may or may not include mailing it to ZTE in a bag filled with urine and feces. -.-
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I had the ZTE warp 6, what android version is it on, your warp 7?

does the n9860 get slower updates than the 986B or F?

I notice that there is a new update to ATH9 for the exynos B version. Do the snapdragon models get slower updates?

yes

And it seems the n9860 gets them slowest of all!

Wanted to ask same question, is there a way to get faster updates?

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I notice that there is a new update to ATH9 for the exynos B version. Do the snapdragon models get slower updates?
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My HK one is still on ATH1 with August patch... Really slow...

Just got the update. Finally

ekerbuddyeker said:
Just got the update. Finally
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"Finally"?? It's still September, and you already got the September patch! That's INCREDIBLY FAST. Some of us are old enough to remember what really slow updates were like. *Sheesh*....kids today... :laugh:

jtOttawa said:
"Finally"?? It's still September, and you already got the September patch! That's INCREDIBLY FAST. Some of us are old enough to remember what really slow updates were like. *Sheesh*....kids today... :laugh:
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People seem to not realize that even by Google standards, 90 days is acceptable for patch currency.

It's relative to updates on other versions of the 20 ultra.

ekerbuddyeker said:
It's relative to updates on other versions of the 20 ultra.
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I guess I fail to see the point in caring that much about it.
Like are people really choosing devices based on which might get an update sooner in a thirty day window?

pcriz said:
I guess I fail to see the point in caring that much about it.
Like are people really choosing devices based on which might get an update sooner in a thirty day window?
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Just because you fail to see a point doesn't mean there isn't a point.

ekerbuddyeker said:
Just because you fail to see a point doesn't mean there isn't a point.
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Never said there wasn't a point, I said I failed to see it.
But also having a point doesn't make it useful, but thanks for clarifying my previous question.

of course no. Local market for samsung ( korea) has snapdragon, so it makes no sense to update it slower. Other point is that exynos need MUCH MORE fixes especially on when it just started to sale and it must be done before black friday/ christmas etc..

Poliarinis_eziukas said:
of course no. Local market for samsung ( korea) has snapdragon, so it makes no sense to update it slower. Other point is that exynos need MUCH MORE fixes especially on when it just started to sale and it must be done before black friday/ christmas etc..
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Why does the exynos need more fixes and the Korean model is updated later than snapdragons in the states and exynos model. We got our updates usually a week or two after the US.
Nevermind if you look up the firmware, the 9860 model is still on a September 1 security patch where as the Exynos model is on October already. Korea is also on Sept 1

ATJ1 just dropped.

pcriz said:
Why does the exynos need more fixes and the Korean model is updated later than snapdragons in the states and exynos model. We got our updates usually a week or two after the US.
Nevermind if you look up the firmware, the 9860 model is still on a September 1 security patch where as the Exynos model is on October already. Korea is also on Sept 1
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First of all it may depend on market and users (specific servisas ir apps) so because of different date of "security" updates. But let's be honest no body knows what's comes as an extra for that "security updates". It's obvious that exynos version is fail in this generation, so constant updates called "bug fixing " wouobnt be good for marketing part - samsung still denies that exynos is worse that snapdragon, so they need to fix it asap QUIETLY. And know it works even better, because more frequent fixes some people thinks that it gets updates sooner lets be real snapdragon get most valuable markets, so it makes no sense mess it up with late updates . It just no need to fix it so much.. by the way all testing devices which goes to "tech blogging " is on snapdragon Guess why...

Poliarinis_eziukas said:
First of all it may depend on market and users (specific servisas ir apps) so because of different date of "security" updates. But let's be honest no body knows what's comes as an extra for that "security updates". It's obvious that exynos version is fail in this generation, so constant updates called "bug fixing " wouobnt be good for marketing part - samsung still denies that exynos is worse that snapdragon, so they need to fix it asap QUIETLY. And know it works even better, because more frequent fixes some people thinks that it gets updates sooner lets be real snapdragon get most valuable markets, so it makes no sense mess it up with late updates . It just no need to fix it so much.. by the way all testing devices which goes to "tech blogging " is on snapdragon Guess why...
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So what I think I gather from this is you don't know what you meant by exynos needing more updates to fix it up (both chipsets have gotten basically the same number of updates).
You want to come out so hard against exynos (no idea why, it depends totally on region if you have to deal with it or not) that you forget exynos is always the first to update. The Korean Snapdragon doesn't even update before the exynos.
Can we please stick to what we know and save the fanboy speculation for the comments under a sammobile article. Geez Louise.
And late updates? I guess if samsung listed a time that you should expect an update you could classify it as late. But that is different from when you think you SHOULD get an update. Two generations ago we were getting an update every 90 days. Now people are crying over an update coming at the end of the month.

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So what I think I gather from this is you don't know what you meant by exynos needing more updates to fix it up (both chipsets have gotten basically the same number of updates).
You want to come out so hard against exynos (no idea why, it depends totally on region if you have to deal with it or not) that you invite exynos is always the first to update. The Korean Snapdragon doesn't even update before the exynos.
Can we please stick to what we know and save the fanboy speculation for the comments under a sammobile article. Geez Louise.
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It has nothing to do with being fan boy or so. It's just a facts. I have nothing against exynos, it just fact that is it not as good as snapdragon. And now it just a marketing strategies to "solve it" until all that shopping parade called black friday, 11.11, Christmas etc..

Poliarinis_eziukas said:
It has nothing to do with being fan boy or so. It's just a facts. I have nothing against exynos, it just fact that is it not as good as snapdragon. And now it just a marketing strategies to "solve it" until all that shopping parade called black friday, 11.11, Christmas etc..
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The majority of plain jane cell phone owners aren't on XDA at all. Grab a random person on the street and ask them what security update they are on and see what they say.
You're living in this tech blog vacuum where users slap fight over graphite pads vs copper vapor cooling. While the other 90 something percent of users don't even know what you are on about. And that is a very generous estimation when you look at a given generations phone sells compared to the number of registered XDA users.
It's funny you call exynos being updated earlier a marketing ploy but show me one ad that mentions how fast the monthly updates come (compared to other chipsets).
Average users aren't excited to reboot their phones more than once a month for an update, so more or faster or wherever you are saying is a "marketing strategy" seems a bit off the mark.
Let's be real, the only people the updates make any impact on are the people that already have the phone, and even smaller in that community are those that even care.